If you ever want to shut me up, here's what you can do. Just give me a straight answer to a question one time. I'd be stunned speechless.Oldbear83 said:
You need more than an accusation to force law enforcement to do what you demand, Sam.
But all you have is baseless noise.
Trump's first 100 days
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Sam Lowry said:
100% illegal and unconstitutional.
File a case in court to challenge. Maybe it will force Congress to quit ceding responsibility for making hard decisions.
As I've said many times...when you're making the "it's unconstitutional" argument, you're losing the argument.
Assassin said:🚨#BREAKING: An incredibly bizarre scene has just taken place in Columbia SC.
— Matt Van Swol (@mattvanswol) March 7, 2026
Anti-Trump protestors faked a “funeral procession” with American-flag draped caskets and trash bags tied to look like “children in body bags” to protest the Iran strikes.
Apparently lots of people… pic.twitter.com/bzA5Oz38cJ
Anyone who thought this was a real funeral is dumb.
Anyone who thought surrendering the moral high ground to a "Party for Socialism and Liberation" by joining Israel in this war is also dumb.
KaiBear said:
Amusing how no one is interested in digging up the thousands of Iranian protesters murdered by the regime.
Selective outrage…at its finest.
The difference is that everyone knows that the Iranian regime suppresses internal dissent by killing civilians. Every middle eastern government, friend or foe, does that. And all terrorist groups, be it Hamas, Hezbollah, or Azov do the same thing. That is why they are called terrorists.
"Our greatest ally" and "the only democracy in the Middle East" shouldn't be doing that.
But as I am not entirely sure that we aren't being lied to about the number of our own war dead in this conflict we aren't going to get to any objective truth about how many civilians the IDF killed in the process of turning Gaza into a parking lot.
That makes no sense.whiterock said:
As I've said many times...when you're making the "it's unconstitutional" argument, you're losing the argument.
We're being lied to on both counts.Realitybites said:KaiBear said:
Amusing how no one is interested in digging up the thousands of Iranian protesters murdered by the regime.
Selective outrage…at its finest.
The difference is that everyone knows that the Iranian regime suppresses internal dissent by killing civilians. Every middle eastern government, friend or foe, does that. And all terrorist groups, be it Hamas, Hezbollah, or Azov do the same thing. That is why they are called terrorists.
"Our greatest ally" and "the only democracy in the Middle East" shouldn't be doing that.
But as I am not entirely sure that we aren't being lied to about the number of our own war dead in this conflict we aren't going to get to any objective truth about how many civilians the IDF killed in the process of turning Gaza into a parking lot.
If things continue on the current trajectory, we're going to need a "Trump's Last 100 Days" Thread.
Sam Lowry said:whiterock said:
As I've said many times...when you're making the "it's unconstitutional" argument, you're losing the argument.
That makes no sense.
It's unerringly accurate.
Sam Lowry said:Realitybites said:KaiBear said:
Amusing how no one is interested in digging up the thousands of Iranian protesters murdered by the regime.
Selective outrage…at its finest.
The difference is that everyone knows that the Iranian regime suppresses internal dissent by killing civilians. Every middle eastern government, friend or foe, does that. And all terrorist groups, be it Hamas, Hezbollah, or Azov do the same thing. That is why they are called terrorists.
"Our greatest ally" and "the only democracy in the Middle East" shouldn't be doing that.
But as I am not entirely sure that we aren't being lied to about the number of our own war dead in this conflict we aren't going to get to any objective truth about how many civilians the IDF killed in the process of turning Gaza into a parking lot.
We're being lied to on both counts.
this is what cognitive dissonance looks like. The greater the divergence between dogma and observable reality, the greater the tendency to see lies and conspiracies everywhere.
Clever, dedicated killers, on both sides, always find the weak spots. Find the unwary , the sloppy , the stupid.
And take them out.
Our casualties have just begun.
Only takes one missile hit on a warship to kill dozens of sailors.
One missile hit on a bunker to kill dozens of soldiers.
If Trump remains steadfast against growing criticism and follows through…..we will effectively destroy Iran .
However in the process we are going to get hurt as well.
All to protect Israel still again.
No lobbyists ever got a better return on their money.
KaiBear said:
Clever, dedicated killers, on both sides, always find the weak spots. Find the unwary , the sloppy , the stupid.
And take them out.
Our casualties have just begun.
Only takes one missile hit on a warship to kill dozens of sailors.
One missile hit on a bunker to kill dozens of soldiers.
If Trump remains steadfast against growing criticism and follows through…..we will effectively destroy Iran .
However in the process we are going to get hurt as well.
All to protect Israel still again.
No lobbyists ever got a better return on their money.
you were on a roll until you said it was all about Israel.
Has absolutely nothing to do with Israel. Has to do with 47yrs of Iranian war against us, thousands of US dead, and a jihadist regime loudly dedicated to our destruction being unwilling to step away from production of nukes.
whiterock said:
this is what cognitive dissonance looks like. The greater the divergence between dogma and observable reality, the greater the tendency to see lies and conspiracies everywhere.
This is what someone who missed the observable realities about what we were told about J6, the 2020 election, and Covid looks like. Within the past decade, it has been proven that .gov is willing to lie to us about much bigger things than the number of people killed in a week in an undeclared war. Therefore it is rational to consider all options about statements from .gov.
whiterock said:KaiBear said:
Clever, dedicated killers, on both sides, always find the weak spots. Find the unwary , the sloppy , the stupid.
And take them out.
Our casualties have just begun.
Only takes one missile hit on a warship to kill dozens of sailors.
One missile hit on a bunker to kill dozens of soldiers.
If Trump remains steadfast against growing criticism and follows through…..we will effectively destroy Iran .
However in the process we are going to get hurt as well.
All to protect Israel still again.
No lobbyists ever got a better return on their money.
you were on a roll until you said it was all about Israel.
Has absolutely nothing to do with Israel. Has to do with 47yrs of Iranian war against us, thousands of US dead, and a jihadist regime loudly dedicated to our destruction being unwilling to step away from production of nukes.
You are a smart individual.
However you conveniently 'forget' one poignant fact.
If the United States had not spent the last 60 years fighting on behalf of the Zionist State to begin with…. none of these deaths would have ever occurred.
It is because we are playing the world's policeman that makes us a target for revenge.
And the ONLY reason we have fought for Israel all these decades is due to the intense amount of lobbying Israel has conducted on our politicians.
whiterock said:KaiBear said:
Clever, dedicated killers, on both sides, always find the weak spots. Find the unwary , the sloppy , the stupid.
And take them out.
Our casualties have just begun.
Only takes one missile hit on a warship to kill dozens of sailors.
One missile hit on a bunker to kill dozens of soldiers.
If Trump remains steadfast against growing criticism and follows through…..we will effectively destroy Iran .
However in the process we are going to get hurt as well.
All to protect Israel still again.
No lobbyists ever got a better return on their money.
you were on a roll until you said it was all about Israel.
Has absolutely nothing to do with Israel. Has to do with 47yrs of Iranian war against us, thousands of US dead, and a jihadist regime loudly dedicated to our destruction being unwilling to step away from production of nukes.
If Iran had a nuke, they would have dropped it in this war
It's important that they don't get one
Osodecentx said:whiterock said:KaiBear said:
Clever, dedicated killers, on both sides, always find the weak spots. Find the unwary , the sloppy , the stupid.
And take them out.
Our casualties have just begun.
Only takes one missile hit on a warship to kill dozens of sailors.
One missile hit on a bunker to kill dozens of soldiers.
If Trump remains steadfast against growing criticism and follows through…..we will effectively destroy Iran .
However in the process we are going to get hurt as well.
All to protect Israel still again.
No lobbyists ever got a better return on their money.
you were on a roll until you said it was all about Israel.
Has absolutely nothing to do with Israel. Has to do with 47yrs of Iranian war against us, thousands of US dead, and a jihadist regime loudly dedicated to our destruction being unwilling to step away from production of nukes.
If Iran had a nuke, they would have dropped it in this war
It's important that they don't get one
North Korea has them. Do they love us ?
China has nuclear weapons, so does India, Pakistan and Russia.
How many friends do we have in that bunch ?
If the United States was not playing the hired cop for Israel….we wouldn't care if Iran got the bomb or not.
Does Brazil care…does Argentina ? Are they magically
threatened if Iran gets the bomb ?
Step back, and connect the dots.
Realitybites said:whiterock said:
this is what cognitive dissonance looks like. The greater the divergence between dogma and observable reality, the greater the tendency to see lies and conspiracies everywhere.
This is what someone who missed the observable realities about what we were told about J6, the 2020 election, and Covid looks like. Within the past decade, it has been proven that .gov is willing to lie to us about much bigger things than the number of people killed in a week in an undeclared war. Therefore it is rational to consider all options about statements from .gov.
So you think Iran is not responsible for:
-seizing our embassy and holding our staff hostage for over 400 days?
-killing 241 Mariines on a peacekeeping mission in Beirut?
-torturing to death Bill Buckley and sending to President Regan a video of him being flayed alive?
-torturing and hanging Col. Bill HIggins?
-executing USN Seabee Robert Stetham
and on and on and on for 47 years right up to the 47 Americans killed in the October 7th attack, bringing the total US deaths by Iran and its proxies to over 1000.
(and that's not to mention the Oct 7th hostages. One Amcit was executed on film).
How much uncontestable history are you prepared to write off as propaganda in order to blame the Jews for everything you don't like?
Still again you pretend to have amnesia.
If our military was not tasked to protect Israel……they wouldn't be killing Muslims or being killed in turn.
How many Brazilians have been killed in the Middle East ?
How many Swiss ?
How many Mexicans ?
Come on guy…..you know the story.
If our military was not tasked to protect Israel……they wouldn't be killing Muslims or being killed in turn.
How many Brazilians have been killed in the Middle East ?
How many Swiss ?
How many Mexicans ?
Come on guy…..you know the story.
whiterock said:
As I've said many times...when you're making the "it's unconstitutional" argument, you're losing the argument.
Really? You are one of those shred the Constitution, start over types?
KaiBear said:whiterock said:KaiBear said:
Clever, dedicated killers, on both sides, always find the weak spots. Find the unwary , the sloppy , the stupid.
And take them out.
Our casualties have just begun.
Only takes one missile hit on a warship to kill dozens of sailors.
One missile hit on a bunker to kill dozens of soldiers.
If Trump remains steadfast against growing criticism and follows through…..we will effectively destroy Iran .
However in the process we are going to get hurt as well.
All to protect Israel still again.
No lobbyists ever got a better return on their money.
you were on a roll until you said it was all about Israel.
Has absolutely nothing to do with Israel. Has to do with 47yrs of Iranian war against us, thousands of US dead, and a jihadist regime loudly dedicated to our destruction being unwilling to step away from production of nukes.
You are a smart individual.
However you conveniently 'forget' one poignant fact.
If the United States had not spent the last 60 years fighting on behalf of the Zionist State to begin with…. none of these deaths would have ever occurred.
It is because we are playing the world's policeman that makes us a target for revenge.
And the ONLY reason we have fought for Israel all these decades is due to the intense amount of lobbying Israel has conducted on our politicians.
Actually, if a POTUS with more balls then Jimmy Carter hadnt done Iran wrong in 1979, there would be no IRNG or Hezbollah, from which many of the terrorist groups owe their start.
“May your choices reflect your hopes, not your fears.” Nelson Mandela
Osodecentx said:whiterock said:KaiBear said:
Clever, dedicated killers, on both sides, always find the weak spots. Find the unwary , the sloppy , the stupid.
And take them out.
Our casualties have just begun.
Only takes one missile hit on a warship to kill dozens of sailors.
One missile hit on a bunker to kill dozens of soldiers.
If Trump remains steadfast against growing criticism and follows through…..we will effectively destroy Iran .
However in the process we are going to get hurt as well.
All to protect Israel still again.
No lobbyists ever got a better return on their money.
you were on a roll until you said it was all about Israel.
Has absolutely nothing to do with Israel. Has to do with 47yrs of Iranian war against us, thousands of US dead, and a jihadist regime loudly dedicated to our destruction being unwilling to step away from production of nukes.
If Iran had a nuke, they would have dropped it in this war
It's important that they don't get one
Good point.
“May your choices reflect your hopes, not your fears.” Nelson Mandela
KaiBear said:Osodecentx said:whiterock said:KaiBear said:
Clever, dedicated killers, on both sides, always find the weak spots. Find the unwary , the sloppy , the stupid.
And take them out.
Our casualties have just begun.
Only takes one missile hit on a warship to kill dozens of sailors.
One missile hit on a bunker to kill dozens of soldiers.
If Trump remains steadfast against growing criticism and follows through…..we will effectively destroy Iran .
However in the process we are going to get hurt as well.
All to protect Israel still again.
No lobbyists ever got a better return on their money.
you were on a roll until you said it was all about Israel.
Has absolutely nothing to do with Israel. Has to do with 47yrs of Iranian war against us, thousands of US dead, and a jihadist regime loudly dedicated to our destruction being unwilling to step away from production of nukes.
If Iran had a nuke, they would have dropped it in this war
It's important that they don't get one
North Korea has them. Do they love us ?
China has nuclear weapons, so does India, Pakistan and Russia.
How many friends do we have in that bunch ?
If the United States was not playing the hired cop for Israel….we wouldn't care if Iran got the bomb or not.
Does Brazil care…does Argentina ? Are they magically
threatened if Iran gets the bomb ?
Step back, and connect the dots.
But none of these guys want to become suicide bombers. Hezbollah has no problem with that. They are doing this for Allah - with a home grown terrorist gang
“May your choices reflect your hopes, not your fears.” Nelson Mandela
Lindsey Graham: "If we get in a fight, I want to win it quick. I'm in Miami. You see this hat? 'Free Cuba.' Stay tuned. The liberation of Cuba is upon us. We're marching through the world. We're clearing out the bad guys. Cuba is next." pic.twitter.com/gIommBVScp
— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) March 8, 2026
boognish_bear said:Lindsey Graham: "If we get in a fight, I want to win it quick. I'm in Miami. You see this hat? 'Free Cuba.' Stay tuned. The liberation of Cuba is upon us. We're marching through the world. We're clearing out the bad guys. Cuba is next." pic.twitter.com/gIommBVScp
— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) March 8, 2026
This guy is dangerous.
whiterock said:
So you think Iran is not responsible for:
-seizing our embassy and holding our staff hostage for over 400 days?
-killing 241 Mariines on a peacekeeping mission in Beirut?
-torturing to death Bill Buckley and sending to President Regan a video of him being flayed alive?
-torturing and hanging Col. Bill HIggins?
-executing USN Seabee Robert Stetham
Obviously they did all these things. The context being our coup against Mohammed Mossadegh. Had the CIA not done that and installed the Shah, do you think Shia radicals would have come to power in Iran? Historical events are part of a timeline and can only be understood as such. The rise of Hitler cannot be divorced from the terms imposed on Germany at Versailles.
Out of curiousity, why do you think neither Carter nor Reagan got a declaration of war against Iran back then and take care of business rather than waiting half a century?
Quote:
right up to the 47 Americans killed in the October 7th attack (and that's not to mention the Oct 7th hostages. One Amcit was executed on film).
To be clear, how many of these 47 Americans were killed were American citizens and how many were dual citizens? What was the other country they were citizens of? What religion did they practice? To what degree did each of these factors play in their abduction and murder? This is not to say that any of it was right, but to say "47 Americans killed in the October 7th attack" is a gross oversimplification of the matter.
...and none of this has anything to do with whether the government lies to the American people, and that's a bipartisan problem.
KaiBear said:
Still again you pretend to have amnesia.
If our military was not tasked to protect Israel……they wouldn't be killing Muslims or being killed in turn.
How many Brazilians have been killed in the Middle East ?
How many Swiss ?
How many Mexicans ?
Come on guy…..you know the story.
The other piece here is the investment the US has in Aramco. The Ayatollah class will go to war over infidels in the region. That is what set off Bin Laden, the US in the Kingdom in the 90's. That was the biggest issue in 1990 in Dharan. A few Aramco Execs, their wives and some workers is one thing, US troops was another. Those nations you list have low profiles in the region as a whole, not just over Israel. Israel is one piece of the puzzle.
It is two sides to the same coin, the Israeli lobby AND the US presence in the region that has nothing to do with the Jews. The oil investment is significant. Think about it, we can't replace that in the Western Hemisphere? Between, South America, Alaska, the Gulf, and other areas not exploited yet we could. But the initial investment is in Aramco, with the Brits. That lobby is just as strong.
FLBear5630 said:boognish_bear said:Lindsey Graham: "If we get in a fight, I want to win it quick. I'm in Miami. You see this hat? 'Free Cuba.' Stay tuned. The liberation of Cuba is upon us. We're marching through the world. We're clearing out the bad guys. Cuba is next." pic.twitter.com/gIommBVScp
— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) March 8, 2026
This guy is dangerous.
queen Lindsey and the "money honey" done lost it too. Fox Business just sucks. This Stewart fella is a trump boot licker like most all Fox Bus. Ever since they ran off the great Neil Cavuto, there is nothing worthwhile. Give me CNBC or Bloomberg every day
J.R. said:FLBear5630 said:boognish_bear said:Lindsey Graham: "If we get in a fight, I want to win it quick. I'm in Miami. You see this hat? 'Free Cuba.' Stay tuned. The liberation of Cuba is upon us. We're marching through the world. We're clearing out the bad guys. Cuba is next." pic.twitter.com/gIommBVScp
— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) March 8, 2026
This guy is dangerous.
queen Lindsey and the "money honey" done lost it too. Fox Business just sucks. This Stewart fella is a trump boot licker like most all Fox Bus. Ever since they ran off the great Neil Cavuto, there is nothing worthwhile. Give me CNBC or Bloomberg every day
I have migrated to Bloomberg, more data driven. I wish Reuters or AP had a Sirius station, as a real news station would be welcome. Sick of pundits telling us what we should think.
Show me the data, I will draw my own conclusions. Sick of hearing from those that "really know". As I said before, don't piss down my back and tell me it's raining (Old Josey Wales quote).
🚨 Fox News has officially admitted to airing old dignified transfer footage this morning to hide Trump wearing a baseball cap at yesterday’s ceremony.
— Brian Allen (@allenanalysis) March 8, 2026
They got caught. They confirmed it.
This is not a mistake. You don’t accidentally air old footage of a dignified transfer.… pic.twitter.com/bfh5WsriMF
FLBear5630 said:J.R. said:FLBear5630 said:boognish_bear said:Lindsey Graham: "If we get in a fight, I want to win it quick. I'm in Miami. You see this hat? 'Free Cuba.' Stay tuned. The liberation of Cuba is upon us. We're marching through the world. We're clearing out the bad guys. Cuba is next." pic.twitter.com/gIommBVScp
— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) March 8, 2026
This guy is dangerous.
queen Lindsey and the "money honey" done lost it too. Fox Business just sucks. This Stewart fella is a trump boot licker like most all Fox Bus. Ever since they ran off the great Neil Cavuto, there is nothing worthwhile. Give me CNBC or Bloomberg every day
I have migrated to Bloomberg, more data driven. I wish Reuters or AP had a Sirius station, as a real news station would be welcome. Sick of pundits telling us what we should think.
Show me the data, I will draw my own conclusions. Sick of hearing from those that "really know". As I said before, don't piss down my back and tell me it's raining (Old Josey Wales quote).
data? what's that? must be fake news/data
Assassin said:KaiBear said:Osodecentx said:whiterock said:KaiBear said:
Clever, dedicated killers, on both sides, always find the weak spots. Find the unwary , the sloppy , the stupid.
And take them out.
Our casualties have just begun.
Only takes one missile hit on a warship to kill dozens of sailors.
One missile hit on a bunker to kill dozens of soldiers.
If Trump remains steadfast against growing criticism and follows through…..we will effectively destroy Iran .
However in the process we are going to get hurt as well.
All to protect Israel still again.
No lobbyists ever got a better return on their money.
you were on a roll until you said it was all about Israel.
Has absolutely nothing to do with Israel. Has to do with 47yrs of Iranian war against us, thousands of US dead, and a jihadist regime loudly dedicated to our destruction being unwilling to step away from production of nukes.
If Iran had a nuke, they would have dropped it in this war
It's important that they don't get one
North Korea has them. Do they love us ?
China has nuclear weapons, so does India, Pakistan and Russia.
How many friends do we have in that bunch ?
If the United States was not playing the hired cop for Israel….we wouldn't care if Iran got the bomb or not.
Does Brazil care…does Argentina ? Are they magically
threatened if Iran gets the bomb ?
Step back, and connect the dots.
But none of these guys want to become suicide bombers. Hezbollah has no problem with that. They are doing this for Allah - with a home grown terrorist gang
Are the Swiss worried about suicide bombers ? The Swedes worried about em ? Then why are we a target ?
Because we have been fighting for Israel for DECADES ? Exactly why are we obcessed with defending them year after year...war after war.....body bags after body bags ?
Simple though ugly answer...because our DC politicians have been getting PAID to support Israel for so long its considered a 'traditional' source of re election campaign funding.
FLBear5630 said:KaiBear said:
Still again you pretend to have amnesia.
If our military was not tasked to protect Israel……they wouldn't be killing Muslims or being killed in turn.
How many Brazilians have been killed in the Middle East ?
How many Swiss ?
How many Mexicans ?
Come on guy…..you know the story.
The other piece here is the investment the US has in Aramco. The Ayatollah class will go to war over infidels in the region. That is what set off Bin Laden, the US in the Kingdom in the 90's. That was the biggest issue in 1990 in Dharan. A few Aramco Execs, their wives and some workers is one thing, US troops was another. Those nations you list have low profiles in the region as a whole, not just over Israel. Israel is one piece of the puzzle.
It is two sides to the same coin, the Israeli lobby AND the US presence in the region that has nothing to do with the Jews. The oil investment is significant. Think about it, we can't replace that in the Western Hemisphere? Between, South America, Alaska, the Gulf, and other areas not exploited yet we could. But the initial investment is in Aramco, with the Brits. That lobby is just as strong.
Interesting perspective.....thank you.
KaiBear said:
Still again you pretend to have amnesia.
If our military was not tasked to protect Israel……they wouldn't be killing Muslims or being killed in turn.
How many Brazilians have been killed in the Middle East ?
How many Swiss ?
How many Mexicans ?
Come on guy…..you know the story.
Actually there have been several citizens of those countries, and others, that have been killed in the ME.
Brazil had a few killed in the Oct 7 attack and at other times. It usually just doesn't make front page news in the US.
KaiBear said:Assassin said:KaiBear said:Osodecentx said:whiterock said:KaiBear said:
Clever, dedicated killers, on both sides, always find the weak spots. Find the unwary , the sloppy , the stupid.
And take them out.
Our casualties have just begun.
Only takes one missile hit on a warship to kill dozens of sailors.
One missile hit on a bunker to kill dozens of soldiers.
If Trump remains steadfast against growing criticism and follows through…..we will effectively destroy Iran .
However in the process we are going to get hurt as well.
All to protect Israel still again.
No lobbyists ever got a better return on their money.
you were on a roll until you said it was all about Israel.
Has absolutely nothing to do with Israel. Has to do with 47yrs of Iranian war against us, thousands of US dead, and a jihadist regime loudly dedicated to our destruction being unwilling to step away from production of nukes.
If Iran had a nuke, they would have dropped it in this war
It's important that they don't get one
North Korea has them. Do they love us ?
China has nuclear weapons, so does India, Pakistan and Russia.
How many friends do we have in that bunch ?
If the United States was not playing the hired cop for Israel….we wouldn't care if Iran got the bomb or not.
Does Brazil care…does Argentina ? Are they magically
threatened if Iran gets the bomb ?
Step back, and connect the dots.
But none of these guys want to become suicide bombers. Hezbollah has no problem with that. They are doing this for Allah - with a home grown terrorist gang
Are the Swiss worried about suicide bombers ? The Swedes worried about em ? Then why are we a target ?
Because we have been fighting for Israel for DECADES ? Exactly why are we obcessed with defending them year after year...war after war.....body bags after body bags ?
Simple though ugly answer...because our DC politicians have been getting PAID to support Israel for so long its considered a 'traditional' source of re election campaign funding.
They probably are given all the recent immigrants and terror attacks that have increased in frequency in Europe
KaiBear said:FLBear5630 said:KaiBear said:
Still again you pretend to have amnesia.
If our military was not tasked to protect Israel……they wouldn't be killing Muslims or being killed in turn.
How many Brazilians have been killed in the Middle East ?
How many Swiss ?
How many Mexicans ?
Come on guy…..you know the story.
The other piece here is the investment the US has in Aramco. The Ayatollah class will go to war over infidels in the region. That is what set off Bin Laden, the US in the Kingdom in the 90's. That was the biggest issue in 1990 in Dharan. A few Aramco Execs, their wives and some workers is one thing, US troops was another. Those nations you list have low profiles in the region as a whole, not just over Israel. Israel is one piece of the puzzle.
It is two sides to the same coin, the Israeli lobby AND the US presence in the region that has nothing to do with the Jews. The oil investment is significant. Think about it, we can't replace that in the Western Hemisphere? Between, South America, Alaska, the Gulf, and other areas not exploited yet we could. But the initial investment is in Aramco, with the Brits. That lobby is just as strong.
Interesting perspective.....thank you.
No problem. Talked to some Aramco execs and their wives in 1990 in Dharan. Was shocked at how much we had invested it until the guy explained Aramco - Arab-American Oil Company. There is a special relationship there, as well.
"US investment in Aramco
The US investment in Aramco is a significant partnership that spans over nine decades, with US firms playing a major role in supporting Aramco's success. The MoUs and agreements announced recently are expected to support Aramco's strategic growth objectives while enhancing shareholder value. These collaborations cover a range of activities, including LNG, financial services, advanced materials manufacturing, and procurement of materials and services. The announcement coincides with the US-Saudi Investment Forum 2025 in Washington, DC, and builds on Aramco's long history of partnership with US companies."
The wives had the system dicked, they would talk and flirt as westerners until they didn't want to anymore. Then they would take out a shawl put it over their head and cover their face, next thing Saudis in uniforms with M16s. I found it amusing, being married and not interested watching the game was interesting.
Aramco announces 17 MoUs and agreements with companies in US | Aramco