Trump's first 100 days

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canoso
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nein51 said:

BigGameBaylorBear said:

Osodecentx said:

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Who is the man in the lower picture?


President of El Sav

I'm sorry, I believe the term you're looking for is elected dictator…

To his credit he has cleaned up the streets. If only we didn't have due process here and you could just round up anyone you thought was a bad actor and throw them in jail never to be heard from again…or something like that.

The correct term is "lover of his country and its people."
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nein51 said:

Assassin said:

nein51 said:

BigGameBaylorBear said:

Osodecentx said:

Assassin said:



Who is the man in the lower picture?


President of El Sav

I'm sorry, I believe the term you're looking for is elected dictator…

To his credit he has cleaned up the streets. If only we didn't have due process here and you could just round up anyone you thought was a bad actor and throw them in jail never to be heard from again…or something like that.

If only...

I think we are wishing for different things. I prefer to not live in that sort of dictatorship

Me too. The individual still has to mean more than the State. The individual is the ultimate unit of political sovereignty. Government is here to support the individual rights. Presidents that are all powerful, work against that.
nein51
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FLBear5630 said:

nein51 said:

Assassin said:

nein51 said:

BigGameBaylorBear said:

Osodecentx said:

Assassin said:



Who is the man in the lower picture?


President of El Sav

I'm sorry, I believe the term you're looking for is elected dictator…

To his credit he has cleaned up the streets. If only we didn't have due process here and you could just round up anyone you thought was a bad actor and throw them in jail never to be heard from again…or something like that.

If only...

I think we are wishing for different things. I prefer to not live in that sort of dictatorship

Me too. The individual still has to mean more than the State. The individual is the ultimate unit of political sovereignty. Government is here to support the individual rights. Presidents that are all powerful, work against that.

I would prefer 100 guilty men walk free than 1 innocent man be imprisoned.

I admire the results he's gotten but you can't ignore how he got them.
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nein51 said:

FLBear5630 said:

nein51 said:

Assassin said:

nein51 said:

BigGameBaylorBear said:

Osodecentx said:

Assassin said:



Who is the man in the lower picture?


President of El Sav

I'm sorry, I believe the term you're looking for is elected dictator…

To his credit he has cleaned up the streets. If only we didn't have due process here and you could just round up anyone you thought was a bad actor and throw them in jail never to be heard from again…or something like that.

If only...

I think we are wishing for different things. I prefer to not live in that sort of dictatorship

Me too. The individual still has to mean more than the State. The individual is the ultimate unit of political sovereignty. Government is here to support the individual rights. Presidents that are all powerful, work against that.

I would prefer 100 guilty men walk free than 1 innocent man be imprisoned.

I admire the results he's gotten but you can't ignore how he got them.

That seems to be the theme for the ages, means has matter, not just the ends...
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Why do you have to so articulate and right at the same time? Are you trying to give this forum an upgrade?

And your last comment is so on point. Apparently you have also been around long enough to experience the fickleness of the mass American public.

The process of how one develops their belief system is fairly simple; however, the process of that individual modifying that belief is extremely complex and difficult. The brain defends them subconsciously, meaning one has to consciously focus on questioning that particular belief and how it relates to others and that facet of a person's whole belief system. Not an easy task.
Apparently you have picked up on this some time ago based on how you approach someone when you believe it might be worth at least planting a seed of truth/fact.
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BUDOS
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Perhaps that will transfer into the general election, and maintain the current record of the special elections?
Whatcha think?
boognish_bear
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BUDOS said:

Perhaps that will transfer into the general election, and maintain the current record of the special elections?
Whatcha think?



I think it was oldbear that said it either here or in another thread… but it's still too far out to really know what the national mood will be in November....but I'm not crazy about the way things are tracking right now.
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boognish_bear said:



Good grief. Do the Indian employees have better English grammar than this post? Might explain something, if so. It is so crazy that we can't get our own language into our own graduates.

Aside: And those stupid AI generated captions on YouTube aren't helping the situation. Sorry. Pet peeve.
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Fair enough.
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TACO!
Sic 'em Bears and Go Birds
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"If you don't have wrinkles, you haven't laughed enough" - Phillis Diller
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That's funny
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FLBear5630 said:

whiterock said:

FLBear5630 said:

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We could really use a ln Eisenhower right now, someone calm and understands how to calm things back down. We can use a "Hidden Hand" approach again...

Enough disruption and chaos.

We've had a long line of nice guys, spoke softly and wore the suit well. Are people happy now? And how much is the federal deficit? The guys with "presidential timber" let NoKo have nukes, and nearly let Iran have them, while spending trillions on irrational nation-building exercises. Working class wages stagnated over the last 20 years as we outsourced jobs abroad. We let China into the WTO and gave them MFN status, and they now have 12x the steep production capacity we do. We let TENS OF MILLIONS of illegal aliens cross our borders and called anyone who complained about it a racist. How many more examples of pathology do I need to provide?

Every remodeling job starts with demolition.
Change requires disruption.
Chaos is a ladder.
Trump is definitely not a leader for all times.
But he is exactly the leader we need at this juncture in time.
He has the right plan.
He is relentless in executing it.
Most voters are going to hate every moment of his term.
But we will be better off for it.



BS, Eisenhower wasn't a nice guy. He was a calm and professional. He sent the 101st in Arkansas. He ended the Korean War with an armistice by bringing Nukes into the equation. He had the balls to say no to Suez. So, don't give us the nice guy ****, how about a professional? I said we need a "Hidden Hand" approach, not a nice guy. You love twisting to fit your narrative.

By the way, how many of those items has Trump played a role in? The NoKo Nukes, Deficit, wages, actually your whole list Trump was part of creating either in his first term or now. And he is definitely not a "leader", I use that loosely. We do need a real leader BADLY. Trump is a trainwreck.

LOL I wasn't referring to Ike. Was referring to the last several uniparty Presidents. But now that you've mentioned it please explain how the 101st was a "hidden hand."

Geez, it isn't and wasn't meant to. I was referring to that situation to show he could be tough, when he needed to be and still be civil. But you knew that.

Ike knew that being an ******* was counterproductive. A lesson Donald never learned.


There is a time and a place for it. Now is that kind of time. Voters are cranky. They elected Obama hoping for change. They elected Biden as a reaction against Trump. Then elected Trump as a reaction to BIden. And they're going to keep doing that until their grievances are redressed.

I've said it many, many times. There is basically no middle ground anymore. The two sides don't agree on anything, not even the definition of what is a boy and what is a girl. One side is going to have to win and the other is going to have to lose. That's not a next-election thing, but rather a trend over time. And the trends are moving toward the GOP. Republicans are winning the culture. Winning the registration battles. Ahead in party identification. Have the best position the media in my lifetime. Yes, there will be what Rayburn called "beefsteak elections".....blips in trendlines. We may be headed that way in 2026. But the long-term trends are very, very favorable for Republicans.


But all the usable space is in the middle, the far sides are just gutters.
The middle has no moral high ground over the "gutters." The principle is actually on the far sides....idealists. The pragmatism is in the middle....making compromises. From there, the moderates tend to do as you have here - leaping to arrogance that the compromise is more moral than the principle, ergo the moderate is a superior being. Reality is, the middle is not a static place. It is literally defined by the two poles on issue after issue, and it moves around all the time. Not a very good place to build a political base. Impossible. The base must be on the pole and build toward the middle. Moderates who adopt the static center view point are ironically just as idealistic and intolerant as either pole.

An Administration can be tough without extortion, insults and brutish behavior. Take the comments today, I want Greenland, they said No, so bye-bye. That is extortion. We will stay part of NATO if you give me what i want. Come on? The whole way they operate is not right.
LOL he's just saying the quiet part out loud. We've threatened people bluntly many, many times before. I've held the demarche texts in my hands.....instructing our Ambassador to use the words "....we will destroy your country...."

Trump-speak is different. Particularly jarring to moderate ears. But it is highly effective. If excites his base. And it terrifies his opponents. Both of those things are good.

Nothing new about what we are seeing in US-Nato tensions. It's like we're living the Reagan Era all over again. in the first Trump term, my daughter was sent on a support team to a G-20 meeting in Biarritz. She called us from a streetside cafe where she had sat down for lunch. She had to jump off the call - protesters were coming down the streets, so the owner of the cafe was pulling in all the tables & chairs, rolling up the canopy to cover the windows. I told her "ahhh....it's just like Reagan days, non-stop protests over whatever American wants to do, mobs of fellow travelers carrying around effigies of US officials." Reality is, the Trump-Greenland spat was child's play compared to the deployment of Pershing II missiles in Europe. Yes, Trump is more brusque. But that's why he has gotten concessions out of Nato that Truman and Eisenhower and Kennedy and Johnson and Nixon and Ford and Carter and Reagan and Bush and Clinton and Bush and Obama were never able to get. Not "concessions" in the classical sense of the word, mind out. Just "concessions" that they will actually do what they promised to do 80 years ago = meet spending targets that as a percentage of GDP were half of what America was spending on defense.

Trump wants to do what he promised the voters he'd do.
He doesn't give a damn what you think about his methods..
That's why he's effective.
Sure, I'd rather he act more like Reagan.
But then, he's gotten stuff done Reagan didn't get done, so.......

If we're in an alliance with Europe, Europe needs to match us dollar for dollar. Otherwise, Nato isn't Nato. It's just America doing all the work, taking all the heat, letting Europe have a free ride. (i.e. what's been happening the last 80 years). Trump is not going to allow that to continue as the natural order of things. If we're going to 100% defend Greenland, then we need more equity in the Danish vanity project known as Greenland. Fair ask. We can quibble about how he did it, but plain fact is, he did what was necessary to increase our equity in it.
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FLBear5630 said:

nein51 said:

FLBear5630 said:

nein51 said:

Assassin said:

nein51 said:

BigGameBaylorBear said:

Osodecentx said:

Assassin said:



Who is the man in the lower picture?


President of El Sav

I'm sorry, I believe the term you're looking for is elected dictator…

To his credit he has cleaned up the streets. If only we didn't have due process here and you could just round up anyone you thought was a bad actor and throw them in jail never to be heard from again…or something like that.

If only...

I think we are wishing for different things. I prefer to not live in that sort of dictatorship

Me too. The individual still has to mean more than the State. The individual is the ultimate unit of political sovereignty. Government is here to support the individual rights. Presidents that are all powerful, work against that.

I would prefer 100 guilty men walk free than 1 innocent man be imprisoned.

I admire the results he's gotten but you can't ignore how he got them.

That seems to be the theme for the ages, means has matter, not just the ends...

it is equally true that the means mean nothing unless the ends are achieved.
FLBear5630
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whiterock said:

FLBear5630 said:

whiterock said:

FLBear5630 said:

whiterock said:

FLBear5630 said:

whiterock said:

FLBear5630 said:

We could really use a ln Eisenhower right now, someone calm and understands how to calm things back down. We can use a "Hidden Hand" approach again...

Enough disruption and chaos.

We've had a long line of nice guys, spoke softly and wore the suit well. Are people happy now? And how much is the federal deficit? The guys with "presidential timber" let NoKo have nukes, and nearly let Iran have them, while spending trillions on irrational nation-building exercises. Working class wages stagnated over the last 20 years as we outsourced jobs abroad. We let China into the WTO and gave them MFN status, and they now have 12x the steep production capacity we do. We let TENS OF MILLIONS of illegal aliens cross our borders and called anyone who complained about it a racist. How many more examples of pathology do I need to provide?

Every remodeling job starts with demolition.
Change requires disruption.
Chaos is a ladder.
Trump is definitely not a leader for all times.
But he is exactly the leader we need at this juncture in time.
He has the right plan.
He is relentless in executing it.
Most voters are going to hate every moment of his term.
But we will be better off for it.



BS, Eisenhower wasn't a nice guy. He was a calm and professional. He sent the 101st in Arkansas. He ended the Korean War with an armistice by bringing Nukes into the equation. He had the balls to say no to Suez. So, don't give us the nice guy ****, how about a professional? I said we need a "Hidden Hand" approach, not a nice guy. You love twisting to fit your narrative.

By the way, how many of those items has Trump played a role in? The NoKo Nukes, Deficit, wages, actually your whole list Trump was part of creating either in his first term or now. And he is definitely not a "leader", I use that loosely. We do need a real leader BADLY. Trump is a trainwreck.

LOL I wasn't referring to Ike. Was referring to the last several uniparty Presidents. But now that you've mentioned it please explain how the 101st was a "hidden hand."

Geez, it isn't and wasn't meant to. I was referring to that situation to show he could be tough, when he needed to be and still be civil. But you knew that.

Ike knew that being an ******* was counterproductive. A lesson Donald never learned.


There is a time and a place for it. Now is that kind of time. Voters are cranky. They elected Obama hoping for change. They elected Biden as a reaction against Trump. Then elected Trump as a reaction to BIden. And they're going to keep doing that until their grievances are redressed.

I've said it many, many times. There is basically no middle ground anymore. The two sides don't agree on anything, not even the definition of what is a boy and what is a girl. One side is going to have to win and the other is going to have to lose. That's not a next-election thing, but rather a trend over time. And the trends are moving toward the GOP. Republicans are winning the culture. Winning the registration battles. Ahead in party identification. Have the best position the media in my lifetime. Yes, there will be what Rayburn called "beefsteak elections".....blips in trendlines. We may be headed that way in 2026. But the long-term trends are very, very favorable for Republicans.


But all the usable space is in the middle, the far sides are just gutters.
The middle has no moral high ground over the "gutters." The principle is actually on the far sides....idealists. The pragmatism is in the middle....making compromises. From there, the moderates tend to do as you have here - leaping to arrogance that the compromise is more moral than the principle, ergo the moderate is a superior being. Reality is, the middle is not a static place. It is literally defined by the two poles on issue after issue, and it moves around all the time. Not a very good place to build a political base. Impossible. The base must be on the pole and build toward the middle. Moderates who adopt the static center view point are ironically just as idealistic and intolerant as either pole.

An Administration can be tough without extortion, insults and brutish behavior. Take the comments today, I want Greenland, they said No, so bye-bye. That is extortion. We will stay part of NATO if you give me what i want. Come on? The whole way they operate is not right.
LOL he's just saying the quiet part out loud. We've threatened people bluntly many, many times before. I've held the demarche texts in my hands.....instructing our Ambassador to use the words "....we will destroy your country...."

Trump-speak is different. Particularly jarring to moderate ears. But it is highly effective. If excites his base. And it terrifies his opponents. Both of those things are good.

Nothing new about what we are seeing in US-Nato tensions. It's like we're living the Reagan Era all over again. in the first Trump term, my daughter was sent on a support team to a G-20 meeting in Biarritz. She called us from a streetside cafe where she had sat down for lunch. She had to jump off the call - protesters were coming down the streets, so the owner of the cafe was pulling in all the tables & chairs, rolling up the canopy to cover the windows. I told her "ahhh....it's just like Reagan days, non-stop protests over whatever American wants to do, mobs of fellow travelers carrying around effigies of US officials." Reality is, the Trump-Greenland spat was child's play compared to the deployment of Pershing II missiles in Europe. Yes, Trump is more brusque. But that's why he has gotten concessions out of Nato that Truman and Eisenhower and Kennedy and Johnson and Nixon and Ford and Carter and Reagan and Bush and Clinton and Bush and Obama were never able to get. Not "concessions" in the classical sense of the word, mind out. Just "concessions" that they will actually do what they promised to do 80 years ago = meet spending targets that as a percentage of GDP were half of what America was spending on defense.

Trump wants to do what he promised the voters he'd do.
He doesn't give a damn what you think about his methods..
That's why he's effective.
Sure, I'd rather he act more like Reagan.
But then, he's gotten stuff done Reagan didn't get done, so.......

If we're in an alliance with Europe, Europe needs to match us dollar for dollar. Otherwise, Nato isn't Nato. It's just America doing all the work, taking all the heat, letting Europe have a free ride. (i.e. what's been happening the last 80 years). Trump is not going to allow that to continue as the natural order of things. If we're going to 100% defend Greenland, then we need more equity in the Danish vanity project known as Greenland. Fair ask. We can quibble about how he did it, but plain fact is, he did what was necessary to increase our equity in it.

We disagree.

Your way has clearly not worked, no matter how many demarche texts you held. We are in debt up to our noses, NATO took advantage of us, we have been in wars all over for decades - this is on your watch. This all didn't happen on Biden/Obama. Trump was a big part. W was a big part. Reagan, Bush Sr and Clinton. So why should we listen to you? Not one thing you said has turned out like you said it would and you have been part of it. And the world you held the texts for left a mess.

Give me my Eisenhower quotes and the dark part being said in the shadows. Take you madman, unbalanced President and let's see how it turns out.
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a new take on the Haitian Divorce:

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A Haitian illegal immigrant released into the US by the Biden administration's lax immigration policies allegedly bludgeoned a Florida mother at a gas station in a brazen daylight attack.

Rolbert Jaochin, 40, is accused of striking the 51-year-old woman multiple times, leaving her to die in the parking lot outside a Chevron gas station in Fort Myers around 7:20 a.m. Friday, according to court records viewed by The Post.

The woman was found by first responders outside the convenience store, not breathing, lying in a pool of blood around her head, according to the documents.
....
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Joe did that!!!!

- UF

{ sipping coffee }

D!
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FRAUD ALERT

An Orange County man pleaded GUILTY to submitting nearly $270 million in fraudulent claims over an 11-month span.

Paul Richard Randall and his co-schemers exploited Medi-Cal's prior authorization suspension by billing Medi-Cal tens of millions of dollars per month for dispensing high-reimbursement, non-contracted, generic drugs through Monte Vista Pharmacy, according to the DOJ.

Monte Vista billed Medi-Cal more than $269 million and was paid more than $178 million.

Randall and others then laundered their illicit proceeds by transferring the funds of the Medi-Cal fraud scheme to a third party to pay kickbacks, according to prosecutors.

He pleaded GUILTY one count of wire fraud committed while on release.

Randall faces a statutory maximum sentence of 30 years in federal prison.
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A would-be attacker allegedly walked straight into a Houston church service armed for mass destruction… and was stopped just in time.

According to reports, 23-year-old Emmanuel Ahsono Mbwavi has been charged with two counts of aggravated assault with a deadly weapon after authorities say he entered a downtown Houston church carrying a loaded .22-caliber revolver and more than 100 rounds of ammunition.

Court documents obtained by FOX 26 Houston reveal deeply disturbing allegations.

Mbwavi reportedly had a note on his phone outlining intentions to kill a pastor and was seen behaving suspiciously inside the church prior to the incident.
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canoso said:

nein51 said:

BigGameBaylorBear said:

Osodecentx said:

Assassin said:



Who is the man in the lower picture?


President of El Sav

I'm sorry, I believe the term you're looking for is elected dictator…

To his credit he has cleaned up the streets. If only we didn't have due process here and you could just round up anyone you thought was a bad actor and throw them in jail never to be heard from again…or something like that.

The correct term is "lover of his country and its people if you're white

Waco1947
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What is black pilling?
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Osodecentx said:

boognish_bear said:




What is black pilling?

" The Black Pill or Blackpilled is a metaphorical term often used to describe a set of beliefs often linked to nihilism, fatalism and defeatism."

Black Pill / Blackpilled | Know Your Meme
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FLBear5630 said:

whiterock said:

FLBear5630 said:

whiterock said:

FLBear5630 said:

whiterock said:

FLBear5630 said:

whiterock said:

FLBear5630 said:

We could really use a ln Eisenhower right now, someone calm and understands how to calm things back down. We can use a "Hidden Hand" approach again...

Enough disruption and chaos.

We've had a long line of nice guys, spoke softly and wore the suit well. Are people happy now? And how much is the federal deficit? The guys with "presidential timber" let NoKo have nukes, and nearly let Iran have them, while spending trillions on irrational nation-building exercises. Working class wages stagnated over the last 20 years as we outsourced jobs abroad. We let China into the WTO and gave them MFN status, and they now have 12x the steep production capacity we do. We let TENS OF MILLIONS of illegal aliens cross our borders and called anyone who complained about it a racist. How many more examples of pathology do I need to provide?

Every remodeling job starts with demolition.
Change requires disruption.
Chaos is a ladder.
Trump is definitely not a leader for all times.
But he is exactly the leader we need at this juncture in time.
He has the right plan.
He is relentless in executing it.
Most voters are going to hate every moment of his term.
But we will be better off for it.



BS, Eisenhower wasn't a nice guy. He was a calm and professional. He sent the 101st in Arkansas. He ended the Korean War with an armistice by bringing Nukes into the equation. He had the balls to say no to Suez. So, don't give us the nice guy ****, how about a professional? I said we need a "Hidden Hand" approach, not a nice guy. You love twisting to fit your narrative.

By the way, how many of those items has Trump played a role in? The NoKo Nukes, Deficit, wages, actually your whole list Trump was part of creating either in his first term or now. And he is definitely not a "leader", I use that loosely. We do need a real leader BADLY. Trump is a trainwreck.

LOL I wasn't referring to Ike. Was referring to the last several uniparty Presidents. But now that you've mentioned it please explain how the 101st was a "hidden hand."

Geez, it isn't and wasn't meant to. I was referring to that situation to show he could be tough, when he needed to be and still be civil. But you knew that.

Ike knew that being an ******* was counterproductive. A lesson Donald never learned.


There is a time and a place for it. Now is that kind of time. Voters are cranky. They elected Obama hoping for change. They elected Biden as a reaction against Trump. Then elected Trump as a reaction to BIden. And they're going to keep doing that until their grievances are redressed.

I've said it many, many times. There is basically no middle ground anymore. The two sides don't agree on anything, not even the definition of what is a boy and what is a girl. One side is going to have to win and the other is going to have to lose. That's not a next-election thing, but rather a trend over time. And the trends are moving toward the GOP. Republicans are winning the culture. Winning the registration battles. Ahead in party identification. Have the best position the media in my lifetime. Yes, there will be what Rayburn called "beefsteak elections".....blips in trendlines. We may be headed that way in 2026. But the long-term trends are very, very favorable for Republicans.


But all the usable space is in the middle, the far sides are just gutters.
The middle has no moral high ground over the "gutters." The principle is actually on the far sides....idealists. The pragmatism is in the middle....making compromises. From there, the moderates tend to do as you have here - leaping to arrogance that the compromise is more moral than the principle, ergo the moderate is a superior being. Reality is, the middle is not a static place. It is literally defined by the two poles on issue after issue, and it moves around all the time. Not a very good place to build a political base. Impossible. The base must be on the pole and build toward the middle. Moderates who adopt the static center view point are ironically just as idealistic and intolerant as either pole.

An Administration can be tough without extortion, insults and brutish behavior. Take the comments today, I want Greenland, they said No, so bye-bye. That is extortion. We will stay part of NATO if you give me what i want. Come on? The whole way they operate is not right.
LOL he's just saying the quiet part out loud. We've threatened people bluntly many, many times before. I've held the demarche texts in my hands.....instructing our Ambassador to use the words "....we will destroy your country...."

Trump-speak is different. Particularly jarring to moderate ears. But it is highly effective. If excites his base. And it terrifies his opponents. Both of those things are good.

Nothing new about what we are seeing in US-Nato tensions. It's like we're living the Reagan Era all over again. in the first Trump term, my daughter was sent on a support team to a G-20 meeting in Biarritz. She called us from a streetside cafe where she had sat down for lunch. She had to jump off the call - protesters were coming down the streets, so the owner of the cafe was pulling in all the tables & chairs, rolling up the canopy to cover the windows. I told her "ahhh....it's just like Reagan days, non-stop protests over whatever American wants to do, mobs of fellow travelers carrying around effigies of US officials." Reality is, the Trump-Greenland spat was child's play compared to the deployment of Pershing II missiles in Europe. Yes, Trump is more brusque. But that's why he has gotten concessions out of Nato that Truman and Eisenhower and Kennedy and Johnson and Nixon and Ford and Carter and Reagan and Bush and Clinton and Bush and Obama were never able to get. Not "concessions" in the classical sense of the word, mind out. Just "concessions" that they will actually do what they promised to do 80 years ago = meet spending targets that as a percentage of GDP were half of what America was spending on defense.

Trump wants to do what he promised the voters he'd do.
He doesn't give a damn what you think about his methods..
That's why he's effective.
Sure, I'd rather he act more like Reagan.
But then, he's gotten stuff done Reagan didn't get done, so.......

If we're in an alliance with Europe, Europe needs to match us dollar for dollar. Otherwise, Nato isn't Nato. It's just America doing all the work, taking all the heat, letting Europe have a free ride. (i.e. what's been happening the last 80 years). Trump is not going to allow that to continue as the natural order of things. If we're going to 100% defend Greenland, then we need more equity in the Danish vanity project known as Greenland. Fair ask. We can quibble about how he did it, but plain fact is, he did what was necessary to increase our equity in it.

We disagree.

Your way has clearly not worked, no matter how many demarche texts you held. We are in debt up to our noses, NATO took advantage of us, we have been in wars all over for decades - this is on your watch. This all didn't happen on Biden/Obama. Trump was a big part. W was a big part. Reagan, Bush Sr and Clinton. So why should we listen to you? Not one thing you said has turned out like you said it would and you have been part of it. And the world you held the texts for left a mess.

Give me my Eisenhower quotes and the dark part being said in the shadows. Take you madman, unbalanced President and let's see how it turns out.


You embody the problem. Just now misread after another.

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We could really use a ln Eisenhower right now, someone calm and understands how to calm things back down. We can use a "Hidden Hand" approach again...

Enough disruption and chaos.

We've had a long line of nice guys, spoke softly and wore the suit well. Are people happy now? And how much is the federal deficit? The guys with "presidential timber" let NoKo have nukes, and nearly let Iran have them, while spending trillions on irrational nation-building exercises. Working class wages stagnated over the last 20 years as we outsourced jobs abroad. We let China into the WTO and gave them MFN status, and they now have 12x the steep production capacity we do. We let TENS OF MILLIONS of illegal aliens cross our borders and called anyone who complained about it a racist. How many more examples of pathology do I need to provide?

Every remodeling job starts with demolition.
Change requires disruption.
Chaos is a ladder.
Trump is definitely not a leader for all times.
But he is exactly the leader we need at this juncture in time.
He has the right plan.
He is relentless in executing it.
Most voters are going to hate every moment of his term.
But we will be better off for it.



BS, Eisenhower wasn't a nice guy. He was a calm and professional. He sent the 101st in Arkansas. He ended the Korean War with an armistice by bringing Nukes into the equation. He had the balls to say no to Suez. So, don't give us the nice guy ****, how about a professional? I said we need a "Hidden Hand" approach, not a nice guy. You love twisting to fit your narrative.

By the way, how many of those items has Trump played a role in? The NoKo Nukes, Deficit, wages, actually your whole list Trump was part of creating either in his first term or now. And he is definitely not a "leader", I use that loosely. We do need a real leader BADLY. Trump is a trainwreck.

LOL I wasn't referring to Ike. Was referring to the last several uniparty Presidents. But now that you've mentioned it please explain how the 101st was a "hidden hand."

Geez, it isn't and wasn't meant to. I was referring to that situation to show he could be tough, when he needed to be and still be civil. But you knew that.

Ike knew that being an ******* was counterproductive. A lesson Donald never learned.


There is a time and a place for it. Now is that kind of time. Voters are cranky. They elected Obama hoping for change. They elected Biden as a reaction against Trump. Then elected Trump as a reaction to BIden. And they're going to keep doing that until their grievances are redressed.

I've said it many, many times. There is basically no middle ground anymore. The two sides don't agree on anything, not even the definition of what is a boy and what is a girl. One side is going to have to win and the other is going to have to lose. That's not a next-election thing, but rather a trend over time. And the trends are moving toward the GOP. Republicans are winning the culture. Winning the registration battles. Ahead in party identification. Have the best position the media in my lifetime. Yes, there will be what Rayburn called "beefsteak elections".....blips in trendlines. We may be headed that way in 2026. But the long-term trends are very, very favorable for Republicans.


But all the usable space is in the middle, the far sides are just gutters.
The middle has no moral high ground over the "gutters." The principle is actually on the far sides....idealists. The pragmatism is in the middle....making compromises. From there, the moderates tend to do as you have here - leaping to arrogance that the compromise is more moral than the principle, ergo the moderate is a superior being. Reality is, the middle is not a static place. It is literally defined by the two poles on issue after issue, and it moves around all the time. Not a very good place to build a political base. Impossible. The base must be on the pole and build toward the middle. Moderates who adopt the static center view point are ironically just as idealistic and intolerant as either pole.

An Administration can be tough without extortion, insults and brutish behavior. Take the comments today, I want Greenland, they said No, so bye-bye. That is extortion. We will stay part of NATO if you give me what i want. Come on? The whole way they operate is not right.
LOL he's just saying the quiet part out loud. We've threatened people bluntly many, many times before. I've held the demarche texts in my hands.....instructing our Ambassador to use the words "....we will destroy your country...."

Trump-speak is different. Particularly jarring to moderate ears. But it is highly effective. If excites his base. And it terrifies his opponents. Both of those things are good.

Nothing new about what we are seeing in US-Nato tensions. It's like we're living the Reagan Era all over again. in the first Trump term, my daughter was sent on a support team to a G-20 meeting in Biarritz. She called us from a streetside cafe where she had sat down for lunch. She had to jump off the call - protesters were coming down the streets, so the owner of the cafe was pulling in all the tables & chairs, rolling up the canopy to cover the windows. I told her "ahhh....it's just like Reagan days, non-stop protests over whatever American wants to do, mobs of fellow travelers carrying around effigies of US officials." Reality is, the Trump-Greenland spat was child's play compared to the deployment of Pershing II missiles in Europe. Yes, Trump is more brusque. But that's why he has gotten concessions out of Nato that Truman and Eisenhower and Kennedy and Johnson and Nixon and Ford and Carter and Reagan and Bush and Clinton and Bush and Obama were never able to get. Not "concessions" in the classical sense of the word, mind out. Just "concessions" that they will actually do what they promised to do 80 years ago = meet spending targets that as a percentage of GDP were half of what America was spending on defense.

Trump wants to do what he promised the voters he'd do.
He doesn't give a damn what you think about his methods..
That's why he's effective.
Sure, I'd rather he act more like Reagan.
But then, he's gotten stuff done Reagan didn't get done, so.......

If we're in an alliance with Europe, Europe needs to match us dollar for dollar. Otherwise, Nato isn't Nato. It's just America doing all the work, taking all the heat, letting Europe have a free ride. (i.e. what's been happening the last 80 years). Trump is not going to allow that to continue as the natural order of things. If we're going to 100% defend Greenland, then we need more equity in the Danish vanity project known as Greenland. Fair ask. We can quibble about how he did it, but plain fact is, he did what was necessary to increase our equity in it.

Please tell me what this clown has been effective at. I can't find much, particularly what he ran on and your Maga ilk bought:
1)Immigration- stopped the flow. Ice killed people , disaster
2)Inflation/costs- both are way up and people are pissed
3)lower gasoline prices...you filled up lately
4)No more wars- yeah right
5)Deficit
6)Made a mockery our our system
7)Disgraced th US on the worlds stage. We are an embarrassment
7) He is effing crazy
8) Grifted $6B for the Trump Crime Family
9) Epstein - He is covering up that he is a Perv Pedo
10) Russia- He is an agent of Russia or he would have put this to bed

What did I miss he did well?



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Automatic selective service registration is already compulsory in many states. This smells like timely click bait/rage bait.
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Getting out of NATO might be the first Israel First policy that unintentionally benefits this country.

I just wish it had happened before we bombed the Serbs and murdered European nationalism.
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