KaiBear said:

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contrario said:

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KaiBear said:

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ScottS said:

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C. Jordan said:

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Tremendous sermon given by a preacher with tremendous courage. She knew she was going to get MAGA fury, but she uplifted Jesus anyway. She spoke morally, and that always has political implications.

It was actually mild. She urged the President to show compassion for the powerless. A great man who was a Christian would have taken it well. Since Trump is neither, he didn't. Instead, he made a vile, petty, nonChristian post. Because that's who he is. He worships the rich and powerful, the Musks, etc. None of them are in the neighborhood of Christ.

I wish some of his groveling evangelical megachurch "pastors" had introduced him to Jesus. But they would have had to have known him themselves to do so.

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She's a libtard and you know it. I agree with Trump's post. She did fail to mention the murders that have taken place by illegals. Cases like the Laken Riley case. Here is Trump's post....

Omg Trump just posted this 🤣🔥 pic.twitter.com/JFw148Jr6G

— TONY™ (@TONYxTWO) January 22, 2025

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Although I agree with Trumps point of view here; the Bishop still had the right to voice whatever view she has; regardless if flawed or not.

Every priest or pastor has that right.

The obvious remedy is for those who find her attitude objectionable……find another Church.

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Exactly. Many pastors over the centuries have preached conservative stances and people complaining in this thread have never made a peep about those instances. But since they disagree with this pastor, then a pastor shouldn't be allowed to voice their opinion. That is hypocritical in my mind and very anti-christian.

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Have read many comments from our resident leftists vehemently complaining about 'evangelicals' preaching conservative political views.

And I provided the same remedy.

Find another Church.


What Church do you attend ?

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I agree with your remedy. But the people complaining now were the first to defend pastors in the past for making political statements. That's my issue.

It doesn't matter if I do or don't attend church or what church I attended. All I'm asking for is consistency. I've defended pastors in the past for voicing their political opinions in sermons, I'm defending this pastor for voicing her opinion in this sermon. I'm being consistent. It's the people that aren't consistent that I have an issue with. It sounds like you are being consistent, so I have no issues with you on this particular topic.

Let them be scared if they are that brainwashed.

Trump has said nothing about homosexuals. He was president for four years and did not do one dang thing to strip the homo of its rights.

ABC BEAR said:

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ScottS said:

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Is that Waco1947 up there preaching?

NEW: Trump appears to roll his eyes as Bishop Mariann Edgar Budde begs him to “have mercy” on gay, lesbian and transgender children and illegal immigrants.

These people are absolutely nuts.

“I ask you to have mercy upon the people in our country who are scared. There are gay,… pic.twitter.com/1rEKez5wgh

— Collin Rugg (@CollinRugg) January 21, 2025

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I judge people by their looks and she is definitely a 'two-bagger'.

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So, you would?

No one said she didn't have the right to say what she wanted, people are questioning her decision to say what she said. Let's stop that false narrative right now. Second, no evangelical preacher got up and preached against the new democrat president during the same event in question, stop that false narrative now, too.

contrario said:

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KaiBear said:

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contrario said:

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KaiBear said:

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ScottS said:

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C. Jordan said:

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Tremendous sermon given by a preacher with tremendous courage. She knew she was going to get MAGA fury, but she uplifted Jesus anyway. She spoke morally, and that always has political implications.

It was actually mild. She urged the President to show compassion for the powerless. A great man who was a Christian would have taken it well. Since Trump is neither, he didn't. Instead, he made a vile, petty, nonChristian post. Because that's who he is. He worships the rich and powerful, the Musks, etc. None of them are in the neighborhood of Christ.

I wish some of his groveling evangelical megachurch "pastors" had introduced him to Jesus. But they would have had to have known him themselves to do so.

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She's a libtard and you know it. I agree with Trump's post. She did fail to mention the murders that have taken place by illegals. Cases like the Laken Riley case. Here is Trump's post....

Omg Trump just posted this 🤣🔥 pic.twitter.com/JFw148Jr6G

— TONY™ (@TONYxTWO) January 22, 2025

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Although I agree with Trumps point of view here; the Bishop still had the right to voice whatever view she has; regardless if flawed or not.

Every priest or pastor has that right.

The obvious remedy is for those who find her attitude objectionable……find another Church.

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Exactly. Many pastors over the centuries have preached conservative stances and people complaining in this thread have never made a peep about those instances. But since they disagree with this pastor, then a pastor shouldn't be allowed to voice their opinion. That is hypocritical in my mind and very anti-christian.

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Have read many comments from our resident leftists vehemently complaining about 'evangelicals' preaching conservative political views.

And I provided the same remedy.

Find another Church.


What Church do you attend ?

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I agree with your remedy. But the people complaining now were the first to defend pastors in the past for making political statements. That's my issue.

It doesn't matter if I do or don't attend church or what church I attended. All I'm asking for is consistency. I've defended pastors in the past for voicing their political opinions in sermons, I'm defending this pastor for voicing her opinion in this sermon. I'm being consistent. It's the people that aren't consistent that I have an issue with. It sounds like you are being consistent, so I have no issues with you on this particular topic.

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Yes, we generally agree on this.

However you chose to comment that those who possess a different opinion on this matter were acting in a ' very anti Christian' manner.

Well, if an individual is not attending Church ; not regularly practicing his Faith…..he really has no idea what is 'anti Christian' and certainly shouldn't attempt to judge others with such a flawed perspective.

Wangchung said:

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No one said she didn't have the right to say what she wanted, people are questioning her decision to say what she said. Let's stop that false narrative right now. Second, no evangelical preacher got up and preached against the new democrat president during the same event in question, stop that false narrative now, too.

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Good post. There is a time and place for everything and simply having the right to do something doesn't mean it's always appropriate to exercise that right no matter what. And this isn't about "choosing a different church" if you don't agree with what is being preached. This is about a traditional event at the national cathedral that ought to be about unity and encouraging the new administration to make sure God is at the forefront of everything they do, and not about condescending lectures on how to treat people that are by definition criminals. And as others have noted, anyone in the LGBTQ community that is "afraid" of Trump feels that way strictly due to leftist propaganda as we have 4 years of proof from his first term that he isn't at all out to persecute them. Again, this bishop's approach was inappropriate and uncalled for given the circumstances and what the event is supposed to be about.

What does the Bible say about immigrants and refugees?

Love Refugees As Yourself
When a foreigner resides among you in your land, do not mistreat them. The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. (Leviticus 19:33-34)
Leave Food for the Poor and the Foreigner
When you reap the harvest of your land, do not reap to the very edges of your field or gather the gleanings of your harvest. Do not go over your vineyard a second time or pick up the grapes that have fallen. Leave them for the poor and the foreigner. (Leviticus 19:9-10)
God Loves the Foreigner Residing Among You
He defends the cause of the fatherless and the widow, and loves the foreigner residing among you, giving them food and clothing. And you are to love those who are foreigners, for you yourselves were foreigners in Egypt. (Deuteronomy 10:18-19)
Do Not Oppress a Foreigner
Do not oppress a foreigner; you yourselves know how it feels to be foreigners, because you were foreigners in Egypt. (Exodus 23:9)
Do Not Deprive Foreigners Among You of Justice
"So I will come to put you on trial. I will be quick to testify against sorcerers, adulterers and perjurers, against those who defraud laborers of their wages, who oppress the widows and the fatherless, and deprive the foreigners among you of justice, but do not fear me," says the Lord Almighty. (Malachi 3:5)
Do Whatever the Foreigner Asks of You
"As for the foreigner who does not belong to your people Israel but has come from a distant land because of your name- for they will hear of your great name and your mighty hand and your outstretched arm-when they come and pray toward this temple, then hear from heaven, your dwelling place. Do whatever the foreigner asks of you, so that all the peoples of the earth may know your name and fear you, as do your own people Israel, and may know that this house I have built bears your Name. (1 Kings 8:41-44)
Leave Your Door Open to the Traveler
No stranger had to spend the night in the street, for my door was always open to the traveler (Job, discussing his devotion to God) (Job 31:32)
Invite the Stranger In
For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in, I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you looked after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me.' (Matthew 25:25-36)
We Were All Baptized By One Spirit
Just as a body, though one, has many parts, but all its many parts form one body, so it is with Christ. For we were all baptized by one Spirit so as to form one body-whether Jews or Gentiles, slave or free-and we were all given the one Spirit to drink. Even so the body is not made up of one part but of many. (1 Corinthians 12:12-14)
Love Your Neighbor as Yourself
For the entire law is fulfilled in keeping this one command: "Love your neighbor as yourself." (Galatians 5:14)
Have Mercy on Your Neighbor
He asked Jesus, "And who is my neighbor?"
In reply Jesus said: "A man was going down from Jerusalem to Jericho, when he was attacked by robbers. They stripped him of his clothes, beat him and went away, leaving him half dead. A priest happened to be going down the same road, and when he saw the man, he passed by on the other side. So too, a Levite, when he came to the place and saw him, passed by on the other side. But a Samaritan, as he traveled, came where the man was; and when he saw him, he took pity on him. He went to him and bandaged his wounds, pouring on oil and wine. Then he put the man on his own donkey, brought him to an inn and took care of him. The next day he took out two denarii and gave them to the innkeeper. 'Look after him,' he said, 'and when I return, I will reimburse you for any extra expense you may have.'
"Which of these three do you think was a neighbor to the man who fell into the hands of robbers?"
The expert in the law replied, "The one who had mercy on him."
Jesus told him, "Go and do likewise." (Luke 10:29-37)


Seems pretty simple.


Sorry for breaking in on your celebrations. Carry on

Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

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What does the Bible say about immigrants and refugees?

Love Refugees As Yourself
When a foreigner resides among you in your land, do not mistreat them. The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. (Leviticus 19:33-34)
Leave Food for the Poor and the Foreigner
When you reap the harvest of your land, do not reap to the very edges of your field or gather the gleanings of your harvest. Do not go over your vineyard a second time or pick up the grapes that have fallen. Leave them for the poor and the foreigner. (Leviticus 19:9-10)
God Loves the Foreigner Residing Among You
He defends the cause of the fatherless and the widow, and loves the foreigner residing among you, giving them food and clothing. And you are to love those who are foreigners, for you yourselves were foreigners in Egypt. (Deuteronomy 10:18-19)
Do Not Oppress a Foreigner
Do not oppress a foreigner; you yourselves know how it feels to be foreigners, because you were foreigners in Egypt. (Exodus 23:9)
Do Not Deprive Foreigners Among You of Justice
"So I will come to put you on trial. I will be quick to testify against sorcerers, adulterers and perjurers, against those who defraud laborers of their wages, who oppress the widows and the fatherless, and deprive the foreigners among you of justice, but do not fear me," says the Lord Almighty. (Malachi 3:5)
Do Whatever the Foreigner Asks of You
"As for the foreigner who does not belong to your people Israel but has come from a distant land because of your name- for they will hear of your great name and your mighty hand and your outstretched arm-when they come and pray toward this temple, then hear from heaven, your dwelling place. Do whatever the foreigner asks of you, so that all the peoples of the earth may know your name and fear you, as do your own people Israel, and may know that this house I have built bears your Name. (1 Kings 8:41-44)
Leave Your Door Open to the Traveler
No stranger had to spend the night in the street, for my door was always open to the traveler (Job, discussing his devotion to God) (Job 31:32)
Invite the Stranger In
For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in, I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you looked after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me.' (Matthew 25:25-36)
We Were All Baptized By One Spirit
Just as a body, though one, has many parts, but all its many parts form one body, so it is with Christ. For we were all baptized by one Spirit so as to form one body-whether Jews or Gentiles, slave or free-and we were all given the one Spirit to drink. Even so the body is not made up of one part but of many. (1 Corinthians 12:12-14)
Love Your Neighbor as Yourself
For the entire law is fulfilled in keeping this one command: "Love your neighbor as yourself." (Galatians 5:14)
Have Mercy on Your Neighbor
He asked Jesus, "And who is my neighbor?"
In reply Jesus said: "A man was going down from Jerusalem to Jericho, when he was attacked by robbers. They stripped him of his clothes, beat him and went away, leaving him half dead. A priest happened to be going down the same road, and when he saw the man, he passed by on the other side. So too, a Levite, when he came to the place and saw him, passed by on the other side. But a Samaritan, as he traveled, came where the man was; and when he saw him, he took pity on him. He went to him and bandaged his wounds, pouring on oil and wine. Then he put the man on his own donkey, brought him to an inn and took care of him. The next day he took out two denarii and gave them to the innkeeper. 'Look after him,' he said, 'and when I return, I will reimburse you for any extra expense you may have.'
"Which of these three do you think was a neighbor to the man who fell into the hands of robbers?"
The expert in the law replied, "The one who had mercy on him."
Jesus told him, "Go and do likewise." (Luke 10:29-37)


Seems pretty simple.


Sorry for breaking in on your celebrations. Carry on

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You left out Exodus.

C. Jordan said:

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Tremendous sermon given by a preacher with tremendous courage. She knew she was going to get MAGA fury, but she uplifted Jesus anyway. She spoke morally, and that always has political implications.

It was actually mild. She urged the President to show compassion for the powerless. A great man who was a Christian would have taken it well. Since Trump is neither, he didn't. Instead, he made a vile, petty, nonChristian post. Because that's who he is. He worships the rich and powerful, the Musks, etc. None of them are in the neighborhood of Christ.

I wish some of his groveling evangelical megachurch "pastors" had introduced him to Jesus. But they would have had to have known him themselves to do so.

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You can't make the case that they're powerless.

If you're trying to grant powers to them, you're engaging in promoting sin.

Any sexual activity outside marriage between a man and woman is an abomination to God. It's a sin, it's adultery. If there's any part of you that says it's ok, you're going against God. Period. That doesn't mean to hate them, it doesn't mean to target them. We still love them, but we can't tolerate their sin or allow people to promote their sin to our children which is exactly what this Bishop's agenda is.

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hodedofome said:

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Yeah I think they just picked the wrong person to preach that day. Any one of us could have seen a pic of her and known what was going to happen. She drives a Subaru and owns a cat.

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Cats are wonderful.

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Yep.

Best pet I've ever had was a cat.

And I've had a golden retriever and a border collie. Who were both great.

But, that cat was something else.

Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

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What does the Bible say about immigrants and refugees?

Love Refugees As Yourself
When a foreigner resides among you in your land, do not mistreat them. The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. (Leviticus 19:33-34)
Leave Food for the Poor and the Foreigner
When you reap the harvest of your land, do not reap to the very edges of your field or gather the gleanings of your harvest. Do not go over your vineyard a second time or pick up the grapes that have fallen. Leave them for the poor and the foreigner. (Leviticus 19:9-10)
God Loves the Foreigner Residing Among You
He defends the cause of the fatherless and the widow, and loves the foreigner residing among you, giving them food and clothing. And you are to love those who are foreigners, for you yourselves were foreigners in Egypt. (Deuteronomy 10:18-19)
Do Not Oppress a Foreigner
Do not oppress a foreigner; you yourselves know how it feels to be foreigners, because you were foreigners in Egypt. (Exodus 23:9)
Do Not Deprive Foreigners Among You of Justice
"So I will come to put you on trial. I will be quick to testify against sorcerers, adulterers and perjurers, against those who defraud laborers of their wages, who oppress the widows and the fatherless, and deprive the foreigners among you of justice, but do not fear me," says the Lord Almighty. (Malachi 3:5)
Do Whatever the Foreigner Asks of You
"As for the foreigner who does not belong to your people Israel but has come from a distant land because of your name- for they will hear of your great name and your mighty hand and your outstretched arm-when they come and pray toward this temple, then hear from heaven, your dwelling place. Do whatever the foreigner asks of you, so that all the peoples of the earth may know your name and fear you, as do your own people Israel, and may know that this house I have built bears your Name. (1 Kings 8:41-44)
Leave Your Door Open to the Traveler
No stranger had to spend the night in the street, for my door was always open to the traveler (Job, discussing his devotion to God) (Job 31:32)
Invite the Stranger In
For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in, I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you looked after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me.' (Matthew 25:25-36)
We Were All Baptized By One Spirit
Just as a body, though one, has many parts, but all its many parts form one body, so it is with Christ. For we were all baptized by one Spirit so as to form one body-whether Jews or Gentiles, slave or free-and we were all given the one Spirit to drink. Even so the body is not made up of one part but of many. (1 Corinthians 12:12-14)
Love Your Neighbor as Yourself
For the entire law is fulfilled in keeping this one command: "Love your neighbor as yourself." (Galatians 5:14)
Have Mercy on Your Neighbor
He asked Jesus, "And who is my neighbor?"
In reply Jesus said: "A man was going down from Jerusalem to Jericho, when he was attacked by robbers. They stripped him of his clothes, beat him and went away, leaving him half dead. A priest happened to be going down the same road, and when he saw the man, he passed by on the other side. So too, a Levite, when he came to the place and saw him, passed by on the other side. But a Samaritan, as he traveled, came where the man was; and when he saw him, he took pity on him. He went to him and bandaged his wounds, pouring on oil and wine. Then he put the man on his own donkey, brought him to an inn and took care of him. The next day he took out two denarii and gave them to the innkeeper. 'Look after him,' he said, 'and when I return, I will reimburse you for any extra expense you may have.'
"Which of these three do you think was a neighbor to the man who fell into the hands of robbers?"
The expert in the law replied, "The one who had mercy on him."
Jesus told him, "Go and do likewise." (Luke 10:29-37)


Seems pretty simple.


Sorry for breaking in on your celebrations. Carry on

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Thought you were 'leaving ' the board ?



Yet here you are still again lecturing others about morality and Christian ethics.

All while practicing a hedonistic lifestyle.


Hilarious

I did leave the board. Did you leave your house thus morning.?


I am not lecturing anyone. I didnt argue. I merely quoted scripture. Do you find the Bilble disturbing? Sorry if that offends you ag..

Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

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I did leave the board. Did you leave your house thus morning.?


I am not lecturing anyone. I didnt argue. I merely quoted scripture. Do you find the Bilble disturbing? Sorry if that offends you ag..

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Disagree with your opinion but good to see you posting again.

Mitch Blood Green said:

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ABC BEAR said:

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ScottS said:

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Is that Waco1947 up there preaching?

NEW: Trump appears to roll his eyes as Bishop Mariann Edgar Budde begs him to “have mercy” on gay, lesbian and transgender children and illegal immigrants.

These people are absolutely nuts.

“I ask you to have mercy upon the people in our country who are scared. There are gay,… pic.twitter.com/1rEKez5wgh

— Collin Rugg (@CollinRugg) January 21, 2025

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I judge people by their looks and she is definitely a 'two-bagger'.

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So, you would?

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Her husband has at least twice.

Wangchung said:

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Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

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I did leave the board. Did you leave your house thus morning.?


I am not lecturing anyone. I didnt argue. I merely quoted scripture. Do you find the Bilble disturbing? Sorry if that offends you ag..

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Disagree with your opinion but good to see you posting again.

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Thanks. I wont be here often. working on my 3rd and final retirement and will ride into the sunset.

I have not seen discussion of Trump not putting his hands on the Bible to swear. I think he is the first not to do it? He did the first term.

Also I havent see any discussion of the German guy buying a place at the table by donating millions of dollars and his Hitler salute. Its outlawed in Germany. Has any one here tried it in public like he did?

Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

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I did leave the board. Did you leave your house thus morning.?


I am not lecturing anyone. I didnt argue. I merely quoted scripture. Do you find the Bilble disturbing? Sorry if that offends you ag..

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Actually in Maui with my wife.

Currently waiting for her to get ready for our morning walk along the beach.

Knew you would return to the board.

You require a platform from which to bleat your hypocrisy.

As you are not a Christian; live a hedonistic lifestyle, own several failed marriages and relationships…. yet feel entitled to lecture others.

Hilarious

Forest Bueller_bf said:

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Mitch Blood Green said:

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ABC BEAR said:

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ScottS said:

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Is that Waco1947 up there preaching?

NEW: Trump appears to roll his eyes as Bishop Mariann Edgar Budde begs him to “have mercy” on gay, lesbian and transgender children and illegal immigrants.

These people are absolutely nuts.

“I ask you to have mercy upon the people in our country who are scared. There are gay,… pic.twitter.com/1rEKez5wgh

— Collin Rugg (@CollinRugg) January 21, 2025

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I judge people by their looks and she is definitely a 'two-bagger'.

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So, you would?

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Her husband has at least twice.

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Tequila shots have their place.

KaiBear said:

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Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

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I did leave the board. Did you leave your house thus morning.?


I am not lecturing anyone. I didnt argue. I merely quoted scripture. Do you find the Bilble disturbing? Sorry if that offends you ag..

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Actually in Maui with my wife.

Currently waiting for her to get ready for our morning walk along the beach.

Knew you would return to the board.

You require a platform from which to bleat your hypocrisy.

As you are not a Christian; live a hedonistic lifestyle, own several failed marriages and relationships…. yet feel entitled to lecture others.

Hilarious

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And I knew you would eventually change you name and pretend you went to Baylor..

Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

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KaiBear said:

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Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

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I did leave the board. Did you leave your house thus morning.?


I am not lecturing anyone. I didnt argue. I merely quoted scripture. Do you find the Bilble disturbing? Sorry if that offends you ag..

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Actually in Maui with my wife.

Currently waiting for her to get ready for our morning walk along the beach.

Knew you would return to the board.

You require a platform from which to bleat your hypocrisy.

As you are not a Christian; live a hedonistic lifestyle, own several failed marriages and relationships…. yet feel entitled to lecture others.

Hilarious

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And I knew you would eventually change you name and pretend you went to Baylor..

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Link ?

Meanwhile your biggest concern in life is Elon Musk 'salute' .

You are such a nut case.

Go back to your 3rd world *****s. They pretend you are relevant….for a price.

Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

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KaiBear said:

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Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

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I did leave the board. Did you leave your house thus morning.?


I am not lecturing anyone. I didnt argue. I merely quoted scripture. Do you find the Bilble disturbing? Sorry if that offends you ag..

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Actually in Maui with my wife.

Currently waiting for her to get ready for our morning walk along the beach.

Knew you would return to the board.

You require a platform from which to bleat your hypocrisy.

As you are not a Christian; live a hedonistic lifestyle, own several failed marriages and relationships…. yet feel entitled to lecture others.

Hilarious

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And I knew you would eventually change you name and pretend you went to Baylor..

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WHHHOOOOOOOOPPPPPPP!!!!!!

We dont need a link. Didnt you change your name from Canadian Bear to Kai or kaibear? Arent you the aggie that used to own a ranch down on the border?

And yes, i tihnk buying positions of power in our government is wrong.

The hitler salute should bother everyone.