Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

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There were angry reactions across Europe to Elon Musk's apparent use of a salute banned for its Nazi links in Germany, where some condemned it as malicious provocation or an outreach of solidarity to far-right groups.

Michel Friedman, a prominent German-French publicist and former deputy chair of the Central Council of Jews in Germany, described Musk's actions at an event after Donald Trump's swearing in as US president as a disgrace and said Musk had shown that a "dangerous point for the entire free world" had been reached.

Elon Musk appears to make back-to-back fascist salutes at inauguration rally


I guess you know more than this guy.

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Free advice: "never go full ritard." You went full ritard then doubled down.

Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

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There were angry reactions across Europe to Elon Musk's apparent use of a salute banned for its Nazi links in Germany, where some condemned it as malicious provocation or an outreach of solidarity to far-right groups.

Michel Friedman, a prominent German-French publicist and former deputy chair of the Central Council of Jews in Germany, described Musk's actions at an event after Donald Trump's swearing in as US president as a disgrace and said Musk had shown that a "dangerous point for the entire free world" had been reached.

Elon Musk appears to make back-to-back fascist salutes at inauguration rally


I guess you know more than this guy.

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LIQR, I know you to be a reasonable person. Tensions are high right now across the political spectrum and everyone is grasping to earn some political points. The ADL has defended him and if you look at the context of the entire speech, it's clear it wasn't a Nazi salute. It may have resembled the movements of a Nazi salute, but he was just wrapped up in the moment and awkwardly did a motion in excitement.

My son is autistic and he was also a valedictorian at his high school. When he walked across the stage, he gave a very similar (bit not identical) motion when the student body cheered for him because they were proud of what he had overcome to achieve that accomplishment. It was awkward because he is an awkward person due to his disability, but he is by no means anti-Semitic (his grandma is Jewish and he is always excited to participate in the lighting of the Menorah). But his motion was a pounding of the chest and extending his arm to the crowd. Not quite resembling the Nazi salute, but it definitely could have been misrepresented that one if someone had motive to do so.

All of this is to say, sometimes people make weird and awkward gestures when they are up on stage like that and get caught up in the moment. If Musk (or my son for that matter) had a long history of anti-semitism, I'd agree with you. But this is an isolated incident and the context wasn't even anything that could be assumed to be a reference to Nazis, he was thanking crowd from the bottom of his heart for their support in the election. Weird gesture with the flat hand facing down and an extended arm? Absolutely yes. But that doesn't make it a Nazi salute. You are better than this LIQR.

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Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

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There were angry reactions across Europe to Elon Musk's apparent use of a salute banned for its Nazi links in Germany, where some condemned it as malicious provocation or an outreach of solidarity to far-right groups.

Michel Friedman, a prominent German-French publicist and former deputy chair of the Central Council of Jews in Germany, described Musk's actions at an event after Donald Trump's swearing in as US president as a disgrace and said Musk had shown that a "dangerous point for the entire free world" had been reached.

Elon Musk appears to make back-to-back fascist salutes at inauguration rally


I guess you know more than this guy.

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LIQR, I know you to be a reasonable person. Tensions are high right now across the political spectrum and everyone is grasping to earn some political points. The ADL has defended him and if you look at the context of the entire speech, it's clear it wasn't a Nazi salute. It may have resembled the movements of a Nazi salute, but he was just wrapped up in the moment and awkwardly did a motion in excitement.

My son is autistic and he was also a valedictorian at his high school. When he walked across the stage, he gave a very similar (bit not identical) motion when the student body cheered for him because they were proud of what he had overcome to achieve that accomplishment. It was awkward because he is an awkward person due to his disability, but he is by no means anti-Semitic (his grandma is Jewish and he is always excited to participate in the lighting of the Menorah). But his motion was a pounding of the chest and extending his arm to the crowd. Not quite resembling the Nazi salute, but it definitely could have been misrepresented that one if someone had motive to do so.

All of this is to say, sometimes people make weird and awkward gestures when they are up on stage like that and get caught up in the moment. If Musk (or my son for that matter) had a long history of anti-semitism, I'd agree with you. But this is an isolated incident and the context wasn't even anything that could be assumed to be a reference to Nazis, he was thanking crowd from the bottom of his heart for their support in the election. Weird gesture with the flat hand facing down and an extended arm? Absolutely yes. But that doesn't make it a Nazi salute. You are better than this LIQR.

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Good words, but he is not better than this. One of the least logical people on the board. Makes crazy leaps in logic to justify his TDS vomit.

Didn't Zuckerberg give the 2020 Biden campaign over 400 million dollars ?

Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

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contrario said:

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Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

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There were angry reactions across Europe to Elon Musk's apparent use of a salute banned for its Nazi links in Germany, where some condemned it as malicious provocation or an outreach of solidarity to far-right groups.

Michel Friedman, a prominent German-French publicist and former deputy chair of the Central Council of Jews in Germany, described Musk's actions at an event after Donald Trump's swearing in as US president as a disgrace and said Musk had shown that a "dangerous point for the entire free world" had been reached.

Elon Musk appears to make back-to-back fascist salutes at inauguration rally


I guess you know more than this guy.

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LIQR, I know you to be a reasonable person. Tensions are high right now across the political spectrum and everyone is grasping to earn some political points. The ADL has defended him and if you look at the context of the entire speech, it's clear it wasn't a Nazi salute. It may have resembled the movements of a Nazi salute, but he was just wrapped up in the moment and awkwardly did a motion in excitement.

My son is autistic and he was also a valedictorian at his high school. When he walked across the stage, he gave a very similar (bit not identical) motion when the student body cheered for him because they were proud of what he had overcome to achieve that accomplishment. It was awkward because he is an awkward person due to his disability, but he is by no means anti-Semitic (his grandma is Jewish and he is always excited to participate in the lighting of the Menorah). But his motion was a pounding of the chest and extending his arm to the crowd. Not quite resembling the Nazi salute, but it definitely could have been misrepresented that one if someone had motive to do so.

All of this is to say, sometimes people make weird and awkward gestures when they are up on stage like that and get caught up in the moment. If Musk (or my son for that matter) had a long history of anti-semitism, I'd agree with you. But this is an isolated incident and the context wasn't even anything that could be assumed to be a reference to Nazis, he was thanking crowd from the bottom of his heart for their support in the election. Weird gesture with the flat hand facing down and an extended arm? Absolutely yes. But that doesn't make it a Nazi salute. You are better than this LIQR.

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Elon has German heritage and comes from the most racist country on earth.

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Ignorant thing to post.

Trump's electoral landslide win has definitely pushed you completely off the rails.

Again, how many of your ex wives would agree with your self description as an 'honest ' man ?

contrario said:

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Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

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There were angry reactions across Europe to Elon Musk's apparent use of a salute banned for its Nazi links in Germany, where some condemned it as malicious provocation or an outreach of solidarity to far-right groups.

Michel Friedman, a prominent German-French publicist and former deputy chair of the Central Council of Jews in Germany, described Musk's actions at an event after Donald Trump's swearing in as US president as a disgrace and said Musk had shown that a "dangerous point for the entire free world" had been reached.

Elon Musk appears to make back-to-back fascist salutes at inauguration rally


I guess you know more than this guy.

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LIQR, I know you to be a reasonable person. Tensions are high right now across the political spectrum and everyone is grasping to earn some political points. The ADL has defended him and if you look at the context of the entire speech, it's clear it wasn't a Nazi salute. It may have resembled the movements of a Nazi salute, but he was just wrapped up in the moment and awkwardly did a motion in excitement.

My son is autistic and he was also a valedictorian at his high school. When he walked across the stage, he gave a very similar (bit not identical) motion when the student body cheered for him because they were proud of what he had overcome to achieve that accomplishment. It was awkward because he is an awkward person due to his disability, but he is by no means anti-Semitic (his grandma is Jewish and he is always excited to participate in the lighting of the Menorah). But his motion was a pounding of the chest and extending his arm to the crowd. Not quite resembling the Nazi salute, but it definitely could have been misrepresented that one if someone had motive to do so.

All of this is to say, sometimes people make weird and awkward gestures when they are up on stage like that and get caught up in the moment. If Musk (or my son for that matter) had a long history of anti-semitism, I'd agree with you. But this is an isolated incident and the context wasn't even anything that could be assumed to be a reference to Nazis, he was thanking crowd from the bottom of his heart for their support in the election. Weird gesture with the flat hand facing down and an extended arm? Absolutely yes. But that doesn't make it a Nazi salute. You are better than this LIQR.

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I can so identify with this. Have an autistic son who is currently on pace to be valedictorian as well, and this is exactly the kind of thing he would do. He's a sweet, innocent, but very socially awkward boy, and has done things such as this over the years that have confused people.

Elon is clearly on the spectrum. He's an awkward dude, but it's clear to anyone with a brain, and given his past behavior, that the last thing he is is a Nazi. Guy was thanking people "from his heart," and clearly that was what the gesture meant based on his comments.

Only issue I take with your post is the first sentence. LIQR used to be a reasonable person, but when it comes to Trump, he's so triggered he lacks reasoning ability.

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contrario said:

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Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

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There were angry reactions across Europe to Elon Musk's apparent use of a salute banned for its Nazi links in Germany, where some condemned it as malicious provocation or an outreach of solidarity to far-right groups.

Michel Friedman, a prominent German-French publicist and former deputy chair of the Central Council of Jews in Germany, described Musk's actions at an event after Donald Trump's swearing in as US president as a disgrace and said Musk had shown that a "dangerous point for the entire free world" had been reached.

Elon Musk appears to make back-to-back fascist salutes at inauguration rally


I guess you know more than this guy.

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LIQR, I know you to be a reasonable person. Tensions are high right now across the political spectrum and everyone is grasping to earn some political points. The ADL has defended him and if you look at the context of the entire speech, it's clear it wasn't a Nazi salute. It may have resembled the movements of a Nazi salute, but he was just wrapped up in the moment and awkwardly did a motion in excitement.

My son is autistic and he was also a valedictorian at his high school. When he walked across the stage, he gave a very similar (bit not identical) motion when the student body cheered for him because they were proud of what he had overcome to achieve that accomplishment. It was awkward because he is an awkward person due to his disability, but he is by no means anti-Semitic (his grandma is Jewish and he is always excited to participate in the lighting of the Menorah). But his motion was a pounding of the chest and extending his arm to the crowd. Not quite resembling the Nazi salute, but it definitely could have been misrepresented that one if someone had motive to do so.

All of this is to say, sometimes people make weird and awkward gestures when they are up on stage like that and get caught up in the moment. If Musk (or my son for that matter) had a long history of anti-semitism, I'd agree with you. But this is an isolated incident and the context wasn't even anything that could be assumed to be a reference to Nazis, he was thanking crowd from the bottom of his heart for their support in the election. Weird gesture with the flat hand facing down and an extended arm? Absolutely yes. But that doesn't make it a Nazi salute. You are better than this LIQR.

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Starred your post btw.

Elon has German heritage and comes from the most racist country on earth. He had made a lot of money selling electric cars among other things. He donated millions of $ to Trump. He also supported Obama. I think HRC but to tired to check. He has now been given a position in our gov. because he is rich and gives Trump lots of money.

I agree the salute was probably a spur of the moment thing. Germans have said he would be arrested if he did in Germany. A pretty good source said it was a Hitler salute. I have seen videos of white racists doing it.

I am waiting for some the guys here that know so much to try it a few times in public, especially around Jews. Maybe they wont be offended. But who cares. He has lots of money. Maybe he was just stemming from autism. But he did it twice. Hard to believe it was an accident.

Musk supported Barack Obama in 2008 and 2012, Hillary Clinton in 2016, Joe Biden in 2020, and Donald Trump in 2024.easy to confirm. Common knowledge Research his support of AfDS

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A few things...

1) The South Africans fought against Nazi Germany in World War II, just FYI. That included Musk's grandfather. Approximately 12k South Africans died at the hands of the Third Reich.

2) As for "racist" countries, according to at least one source, SA doesn't even make the top ten. Of course, all of these are politically motivated sources, so take them for what they are worth.

https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/most-racist-countries

https://people.howstuffworks.com/most-racist-countries-in-the-world.htm

3) Do you have any evidence that Elon is actually racist or a Nazi sympathizer?

4) BTW, interesting that merely having German heritage makes one a potential Nazi sympathizer. Have lots of German blood in the family, who were among the first settlers in Fredericksburg. Have 2 German-blood great uncles who died in Europe, one in the Battle of the Bulge, and the other in Salerno. I guess they had to put their Nazi sympathies on hold when they gave their life fighting against the Nazis.

Just have to let political nature take its course.

I'm an Independent voter who leans right when it comes to fiscal matters, and if this kind of nonsense continues I will be voting for JD Vance, the presumptive nominee, in four years. Or whoever the Republican is.

I, like a lot of Americans, grew tired of this hyperbole, and the attacks. Most of which had (or have) no validity. No matter how the other side tries to spin it. And obviously there are Democrats who still don't get it.

And his has no validity either.

Oh, they'll push it as far as they can. And when the egg on their face becomes evident, they will just let the story go away.

And people like myself who are Independent voters, and those in the middle, will quietly go in and pull the lever for the Republican again in four years.

It is odd though that these people on the left who are so "concerned" about an assumed, or as the media puts it, "seeming" gesture (which tells you a lot right there), are okay with looking the other way on late term abortion.

The former is a "seeming" gesture, the latter is blatant and real in its outcome.

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Look at that Nazi. Probably has German heritage, too!

Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

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Ask your German friends whst would happen if they did the "wave" in Germany . See what they say.

I guess yall are ok with selling hov positions
Elon supported Obama and HRC.

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Ask your German friends whst would happen if they did the "wave" in Germany . See what they say.

Who GAF what Germany would do? Are you familiar with the Constitution? We are a country that values and protects free speech, and doesn't lock people up for mistaken interpretations of their hand gestures.

I guess yall are ok with selling hov positions

Where have your criticisms of the Biden admins' selling positions, power and influence to the Soros boys been the last 4 years? Where were you when the Biden admin was colluding with guys like Zuckerburg to shut down speech that was critical of the admin?

It's interesting you all of a sudden have a problem with guys like Musk, but remained completely silent when wealthy political donors bought and paid for numerous political elections and appointments, and colluded with the US govt. to shut down speech.

Guess it's only a problem when your ox is getting gored, eh?

Elon supported Obama and HRC.

Well, that definitely proves he's a white supremacist and a Nazi!

You are a hoot!

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Biden was a horrible president and a horrible man. I never voted for him or any Democrat. Do you think this board needs more criticism of Biden. ? There are so many Trump fluffers on this board it has become an echo chamber. The same two posters will regurgitate their opinion and start post after post praising Trump and namecalking anyone that doesnt fall in line.

Trump may be a little better than Biden He isn't much different. He beat two women running for president. America is in trouble when we have to pick between a favor selling flim flam man and a washed up life time politician. I just refuse to jump in line with either.

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Trump has already accomplished more good in a few days than the GOP has in my entire life.

The old guard is dead. The people overwhelmingly reject your neoliberal/neocon worldview and the more you complain, the more they'll reject you.

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Biden was a horrible president and a horrible man. I never voted for him or any Democrat. Do you think this board needs more criticism of Biden. ? There are so many Trump fluffers on this board it has become an echo chamber. The same two posters will regurgitate their opinion and start post after post praising Trump and namecalking anyone that doesnt fall in line.

Trump may be a little better than Biden He isn't much different. He beat two women running for president. America is in trouble when we have to pick between a favor selling flim flam man and a washed up life time politician. I just refuse to jump in line with either.

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It's just interesting that all of your outrage is reserved for Musk, a guy who simply wants to rein in govt. spending, and yet you've been completely silent about Soros, Bezos, Gates, Zuckerburg and the like the last 4 years.

I've been one of Trump's biggest critics, but any purported conservative who doesn't see his admin as substantially better from a policy standpoint than Harris, isn't truly a conservative.

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Looks like a cross between Heinrich Himmler and Tony Manero #disconazi

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Well this looked more like a gay gesture to be honest, but like Musk it's just
a goofy awkward gesture as Walz is a goofy awkward guy.

Those who are serious and actually think Musk did a Nazi
or anti-semetic salute need real clinical help.

He is an awkward dude and he did an awkward thing, it had no
political motivation, it was an emotional moment.

Shameful the lack of grace or even decency some people have to try and
pin Nazi on the gesture he made.

They should be punished by being locking in a room with that Episcopal "Bishop" for an hour or so.

That would be a beating.

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I don't care about labels. You hold your nose and vote. I don't.

If every thinks like you and just toes the party line and follows the crowd we get what we have.

If everyone would refuse to vote for egotistical maniacs and washed up professional politicians we get what we get.

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No, you don't care about conservative policies, and are fine with Biden's policies. That's your issue.

You are no conservative. You just pretend to be one on these boards.

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I don't care about labels. You hold your nose and vote. I don't.

If every thinks like you and just toes the party line and follows the crowd we get what we have.

If everyone would refuse to vote for egotistical maniacs and washed up professional politicians we get what we get.

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Trump survived years of unrelenting lawfare and two assassination attempts to become only the 2nd president in US history to win in non consecutive elections.

Comes within an inch of getting his brains blown out on national television but STAYED IN THE RACE. Wonder how many 'flim flam' billionaires would have said '**** this' and withdrawn from the game entirely.

BTW when Trump got up and said FIGHT …..that's when I decided I had been totally wrong about him. The dude has raw courage. Have seen it before in others years ago and it was immediately recognizable.

You and your education cohorts either ignore this courage or can't comprehend it.

So when Obama, HClinton, AOC, Pocahontas, Walz do this libtards don't care. But If Elon does it during a period of time he donates to Republicans then it's a problem? Oh ok.

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Whooooop

Selling Bible's shoes golf tees cologne reality show fake college scam, selling government positions. Draft dodging while marching in parades. Constantly lieing. Surely America can do better.

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I've never argued Trump is a good person. I have simply argued, as a conservative, he is a damn sight better than the incompetent and corrupt boob who almost train-wrecked the country the last 4 years.

But you don't understand such pragmatism.

When libtards are outed they just double down on THEIR lies.

It's the "Trump said all Mexicans are rapists!" type lie, all over again.

Indeed, I realize Trump is a mixed bag, but as a conservative who is concerned by the direction of the country, I realize that Trump's policies are far better and less destructive than 1) what are essentially open borders and a totally failed immigration policy; 2) out of control inflation and cost of living; 3) woke policies focusing on race, gender, sexual orientation and gender identity in all aspects of govt. life, including the military; 4) condoning and supporting policies that allow for the mutilation of our children; 5) disastrous foreign policy blunders, such as a) a Fall of Saigon moment in Afghanistan; b) bellicose China; c) bellicose Iran; d) proxy war with a nuclear power in Russia; and 6) unconstitutionally mandating vaccinations under OSHA.

Any reasonable conservative would.