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The Army is refusing to release the name of the "female" pilot, ostensibly because the family doesn't want it released.

So yeah, you can pretty much presume that it's a DEI hire with a bad training record or a ******.

There's no benign, innocent explanation for it, and gross negligence on part of whoever was at the controls of the Blackhawk.

Also, a 100 foot deviation will probably result in you busting an ATP checkride as that is the maximum allowable altitude deviation. Certainly if you don't correct it, the examiner will bust you. Most guys will fly an ATP ride with no worse than a 20-40 foot altitude deviation, with it being dead on at all times. These are fixed wing limits. I can't imagine the rotorcraft limits are any more lax.

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It is suspicious. Usually government opacity means CYA.

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Interesting take.

What do you think the Trump Administration is trying to hide?

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From what I have heard, the family is refusing the right to publish the name. Is that legal?

Realitybites said:

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The Army is refusing to release the name of the "female" pilot, ostensibly because the family doesn't want it released.

So yeah, you can pretty much presume that it's a DEI hire with a bad training record or a ******.

There's no benign, innocent explanation for it, and gross negligence on part of whoever was at the controls of the Blackhawk.

Also, a 100 foot deviation will probably result in you busting an ATP checkride as that is the maximum allowable altitude deviation. Certainly if you don't correct it, the examiner will bust you. Most guys will fly an ATP ride with no worse than a 20-40 foot altitude deviation, with it being dead on at all times. These are fixed wing limits. I can't imagine the rotorcraft limits are any more lax.

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Might not be more lax, but a wind gust will blow a helicopter much further up than a fixed wing. Not saying that had anything to do with it, but theyvwere clearly higher than they should have been.

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fubar said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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Realitybites said:

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The Army is refusing to release the name of the "female" pilot, ostensibly because the family doesn't want it released.

So yeah, you can pretty much presume that it's a DEI hire with a bad training record or a ******.

There's no benign, innocent explanation for it, and gross negligence on part of whoever was at the controls of the Blackhawk.

Also, a 100 foot deviation will probably result in you busting an ATP checkride as that is the maximum allowable altitude deviation. Certainly if you don't correct it, the examiner will bust you. Most guys will fly an ATP ride with no worse than a 20-40 foot altitude deviation, with it being dead on at all times. These are fixed wing limits. I can't imagine the rotorcraft limits are any more lax.

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It is suspicious. Usually government opacity means CYA.

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Interesting take.

What do you think the Trump Administration is trying to hide?

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From what I have heard, the family is refusing the right to publish the name. Is that legal?

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I don't think the family has a "right" to that, more likely that they requested it, and the Army complied.

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fubar said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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Realitybites said:

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The Army is refusing to release the name of the "female" pilot, ostensibly because the family doesn't want it released.

So yeah, you can pretty much presume that it's a DEI hire with a bad training record or a ******.

There's no benign, innocent explanation for it, and gross negligence on part of whoever was at the controls of the Blackhawk.

Also, a 100 foot deviation will probably result in you busting an ATP checkride as that is the maximum allowable altitude deviation. Certainly if you don't correct it, the examiner will bust you. Most guys will fly an ATP ride with no worse than a 20-40 foot altitude deviation, with it being dead on at all times. These are fixed wing limits. I can't imagine the rotorcraft limits are any more lax.

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It is suspicious. Usually government opacity means CYA.

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Interesting take.

What do you think the Trump Administration is trying to hide?

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From what I have heard, the family is refusing the right to publish the name. Is that legal?

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I don't know.

The posters I was responding to insinuated it was a military/government coverup, and I'm hoping someone will answer my question.

fubar said:

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Assassin said:

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fubar said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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Realitybites said:

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The Army is refusing to release the name of the "female" pilot, ostensibly because the family doesn't want it released.

So yeah, you can pretty much presume that it's a DEI hire with a bad training record or a ******.

There's no benign, innocent explanation for it, and gross negligence on part of whoever was at the controls of the Blackhawk.

Also, a 100 foot deviation will probably result in you busting an ATP checkride as that is the maximum allowable altitude deviation. Certainly if you don't correct it, the examiner will bust you. Most guys will fly an ATP ride with no worse than a 20-40 foot altitude deviation, with it being dead on at all times. These are fixed wing limits. I can't imagine the rotorcraft limits are any more lax.

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It is suspicious. Usually government opacity means CYA.

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Interesting take.

What do you think the Trump Administration is trying to hide?

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From what I have heard, the family is refusing the right to publish the name. Is that legal?

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I don't know.

The posters I was responding to insinuated it was a military/government coverup, and I'm hoping someone will answer my question.

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And it may well be, the world is wondering the reason.

We do know that DEI was parr of the issue, without a doubt. The tower was supposed to be staffed with 30 people but only had 20 do to DEI training and hiring. These guys were overworked. The DEI stalled training at the FAA Academy in OKC. The classes were only partially filled and they had to turn down qualified applicants if they weren't of a certain race to fill the roster. And some other races didn't appear to be interested in doing that job.
(per Senator Mulllin of Okie)

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Bodies still in water and fat ******* has to make it all about him. Truly disgusting and unpresidential and a complete slap in the face to families who are mourning loss of a loved one.

Not mention I find it ironic and laughable that orange ******* would deny others to serve in our military when private bone spurs was too scared.

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The mentally ill are not allowed in the military. Tale as old as time, bro.

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Looking at the JCS under Biden. I'm not so sure about that.

Another crazy thing is that I was treated at that hospital in Philly back in the day. It was both a Shriners and and Scottish Rite facility back then.

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muddybrazos said:

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Woman pilot? thats worse than a trans man bc women cant drive for sheeit.

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While the US has Rosie the Riveter, the Russians had Rozi the Fighter Pilot. Some women aces in the Soviet Air Force.

Female pilots for the US ferried bombers over the Atlantic.

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nah bro, you are brainwashed by Bolshevik propaganda. You probably think trrans women can have periods and trans men can be strong like actual males. You cant defeat nature.

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Trouble with full on stereotypes, have you?
Female pilots in WW2 on all sides are well documented. A female German pilot was most instrumental in getting the V1 buzz bomb flying correctly - unfortunately. Would have been better if she had been your stereotype.

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I dont care. I dont like to ride w a woman drivng me much less a female pilot lfying me.

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muddybrazos said:

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muddybrazos said:

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Woman pilot? thats worse than a trans man bc women cant drive for sheeit.

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While the US has Rosie the Riveter, the Russians had Rozi the Fighter Pilot. Some women aces in the Soviet Air Force.

Female pilots for the US ferried bombers over the Atlantic.

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nah bro, you are brainwashed by Bolshevik propaganda. You probably think trrans women can have periods and trans men can be strong like actual males. You cant defeat nature.

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Trouble with full on stereotypes, have you?
Female pilots in WW2 on all sides are well documented. A female German pilot was most instrumental in getting the V1 buzz bomb flying correctly - unfortunately. Would have been better if she had been your stereotype.

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I dont care. I dont like to ride w a woman drivng me much less a female pilot lfying me.

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you cannot be that stupid. oh wait

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I call it being smart, bro.

So the missing woman pilot was a former Biden aide who escorted Ralph Lauren during the Soros/Clinton Medal of Freedom fiasco...

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/soldier-aboard-black-hawk-chopper-midair-collision-identified-rebecca-lobach-former-white-house-aide/

🔥🔥🔥0.56 seconds ....someone says, They're fu***** with the wrong people..." DO YOU HEAR THAT??!!🔥🔥🔥

— Lesia Persimmon🇺🇸 (@Lapis491) February 1, 2025

Wow! This is the most insane close-up dashcam video of the plane crash in Philadelphia. Turn up the sound; you can literally hear and see debris hitting their car. pic.twitter.com/xZfaUlRDUE

— Vince Langman (@LangmanVince) February 1, 2025

Capt. Rebecca Lobach.

Pilot that ran into the plane and killed 70 people.

BLACK HAWK PILOT: She spent the last two years at the White House instead of flying? Why? pic.twitter.com/0FPopWNdWZ

— @amuse (@amuse) February 2, 2025

Was she in fact trans ....or is this just another internet falsehood ?

muddybrazos said:

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muddybrazos said:

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muddybrazos said:

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muddybrazos said:

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Woman pilot? thats worse than a trans man bc women cant drive for sheeit.

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While the US has Rosie the Riveter, the Russians had Rozi the Fighter Pilot. Some women aces in the Soviet Air Force.

Female pilots for the US ferried bombers over the Atlantic.

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nah bro, you are brainwashed by Bolshevik propaganda. You probably think trrans women can have periods and trans men can be strong like actual males. You cant defeat nature.

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Trouble with full on stereotypes, have you?
Female pilots in WW2 on all sides are well documented. A female German pilot was most instrumental in getting the V1 buzz bomb flying correctly - unfortunately. Would have been better if she had been your stereotype.

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I dont care. I dont like to ride w a woman drivng me much less a female pilot lfying me.

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you cannot be that stupid. oh wait

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I call it being smart, bro.

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I ain't ur bro, bro. Go back to class.

Hot take: two-star generals and other government employees don’t need to be chauffeured around the DC region in luxury helicopters.

Their jobs aren’t that important, and their time isn’t that valuable. They can sit in traffic with us common people working private-sector jobs. pic.twitter.com/KtyX3kOlJA

— Robert Sterling (@RobertMSterling) February 2, 2025

KaiBear said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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muddybrazos said:

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muddybrazos said:

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muddybrazos said:

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Woman pilot? thats worse than a trans man bc women cant drive for sheeit.

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While the US has Rosie the Riveter, the Russians had Rozi the Fighter Pilot. Some women aces in the Soviet Air Force.

Female pilots for the US ferried bombers over the Atlantic.

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nah bro, you are brainwashed by Bolshevik propaganda. You probably think trrans women can have periods and trans men can be strong like actual males. You cant defeat nature.

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Dozens of American women flew hundreds of non combat related flights for the Army Air Corps in WW2.

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Cool, you should give them a trophy at a WNBA game.

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Weak

Bottom line…..women have long proved themselves as capable military pilots.

And not just in the US.

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Of course. Let me explain it to you but i cannot understand it for you: no one objects to women pilots, etc. The objection is lowering standards to give unqualified women or bleks positions they do not deserve and risk public safety.

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BTW anyone who really believes whites are naturally 'superior' to anyone else hasn't spent much time in East Texas.

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Or College Station.

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muddybrazos said:

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EatMoreSalmon said:

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muddybrazos said:

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Woman pilot? thats worse than a trans man bc women cant drive for sheeit.

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While the US has Rosie the Riveter, the Russians had Rozi the Fighter Pilot. Some women aces in the Soviet Air Force.

Female pilots for the US ferried bombers over the Atlantic.

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nah bro, you are brainwashed by Bolshevik propaganda. You probably think trrans women can have periods and trans men can be strong like actual males. You cant defeat nature.

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Dozens of American women flew hundreds of non combat related flights for the Army Air Corps in WW2.

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Cool, you should give them a trophy at a WNBA game.

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Weak

Bottom line…..women have long proved themselves as capable military pilots.

And not just in the US.

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Of course. Let me explain it to you but i cannot understand it for you: no one objects to women pilots, etc. The objection is lowering standards to give unqualified women or bleks positions they do not deserve and risk public safety.

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BTW anyone who really believes whites are naturally 'superior' to anyone else hasn't spent much time in East Texas.

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Or College Station.

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True

Or Washington DC

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Woman pilot? thats worse than a trans man bc women cant drive for sheeit.

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While the US has Rosie the Riveter, the Russians had Rozi the Fighter Pilot. Some women aces in the Soviet Air Force.

Female pilots for the US ferried bombers over the Atlantic.

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Night Witches

I have only seen rumors about the pilot being trans so i think she was a real woman. However, I did see a report somewhere that her social media was scrubbed before her name was released. I cannot find it now, however.

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I have only seen rumors about the pilot being trans so i think she was a real woman. However, I did see a report somewhere that her social media was scrubbed before her name was released. I cannot find it now, however.

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I saw that too. It insinuated that the family scrubbed them. Who would want their child to be part of the world's worst President's group? Could you imagine how embarrassed they must have been?

I don't know if that was a rumor too.

One huge problem with reports in the aftermath of such tragedies is that everything is reported including all kinds of crazy rumors and even outright lies. There are few if any filters and one doesn't know what to believe. I suspect within a few days we will start getting some genuine facts.

We all want instant info and that conflicts with the need for accuracy.

I'm going to assume her accounts were not scrubbed until I see something more concrete. If it's true, there should also be some sort of explanation because they could be interpreted in many ways and invites speculation & rumors.

She was a she.

Not going to speculate. She killed herself, two colleagues, and more than 60 innocents.

Here is the article I referenced earlier:

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2025/02/female-pilot-rebecca-lobach-had-her-entire-social/

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Here is the article I referenced earlier:

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2025/02/female-pilot-rebecca-lobach-had-her-entire-social/

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In her obit, her family said "she was a daughter, sister, partner..."

Since the only photos of her were with another gal, all her social and parent's social was scrubbed, it would make sense to say that she was a lesbo and the odds are, a probable DEI hire.

Daughter, sister, partner...what's that mean, and why 3 days hiding her name and personal.....??