jbbear said:When they start removing high fructose corn syrup from everything, we'll see who's laughing.Tempus Edax Rerum said:Seed oils, corn syrup? Yeah, that's it. Laughable.jbbear said:There are multiple factors for sure, but if you don't think high fructose corn syrup and seed oils are huge factors, you just don't want to see it.Tempus Edax Rerum said:Yeah, cause every legitimate site says we are too fat because we eat too much and are too sedentary. Not my fault you're an idiot. Has absolutely nothing to do with one food group like fructose, moron.jbbear said:Tempus is the dumbest MF on this site.4th and Inches said:are you a cellular biologist? Do you not understand that the metabolism upregulates and down regulates? You know it regulates based on areobic/exercise activity and non exercise activity? You do know WHY they tell ADHD kids to exercise for 15 minutes every morning right? because the amount of non exercise activity goes down so kids sit still in class. The amount of exercise is offset with decreased non exercise activity to conserve energy to a natural set point.Tempus Edax Rerum said:Everyone knows the reason for the increase in fat people, it's the lack of activity, not fructose. Fructose is not the same as alcohol.4th and Inches said:
How to create a public health disaster?
Easy! Low fat diet, low protien diet, highly processed high carb foods with known ingredients that cause metabolic syndromes. Instead of fixing it, we push a narrative that a calorie is a calorie no matter where it comes from.. this is utter nonsense. Glucose sugar uses a completely different pathway and is invovled in the creation of ATP. Fructose doesnt do that, it actually inhibits ATP production. Processed food with high fructose corn syrup is alarmingly bad for you.
Fructose processes on a similar pathway as alcohol. We know we are supposed to limit alcohol or it causes damage to the liver. Why do you think we now are finding non alcoholic fatty liver disease in kids?! Fructose!
Tip of the iceberg but our food is the cause of our health issues. High insulin levels in the blood prevent the body from using fat stores, you literally cant use your stored body fat if your insulin level is too high.
The traditional low fat high carb diet litterally makes people fat and causes cardio and metabolic diseases.
The federal govt nonsense food pyramid, the fallacy that breakfast is the most important meal of the day(literally a breakfast cereal slogan, marketing not truth), and ultra processed foods are the cause of Americas health epidemic. We did it all for a little profit.
Look up the pathway of fructose.. learn something. It responds nothing like glucose in the body. While every cell in the body can use glucose, the liver is the only organ that can metabolize fructose in significant amounts.(like alcohol)
You have no idea what you are talking about when you say fat people are fat due to lack of exercise.
Unfortunately, we won't. Too much $$ at stake. Too many 401k's depend on that growth.
Mr. Treehorn treats objects like women, man.
