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He's making it up as he goes. Total chaos.

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nothing he has done so far seems to be made up on the fly..

He is moving chess pieces faster than his opponents can counter.

Will it result in a positive for America? Time will tell

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OsoCoreyell said:

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He's making it up as he goes. Total chaos.

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nothing he has done so far seems to be made up on the fly..

He is moving chess pieces faster than his opponents can counter.

Will it result in a positive for America? Time will tell

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Well, at least it's not Nation building or a never ending war.

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He's making it up as he goes. Total chaos.

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Fog of war can work to one side's advantage if handled well.

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Yeah, let's go back the the disaster of the past half century. You need to unplug your internet.

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It is non of our business. Let Isreal fight their own fight. Oh, did I mention that it is a serious violation of International Law? Yeah, son, let's just go take over the Palestinian land and send them elsewhere where no one wants them. Eff Isreal and Bibi.

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It's not Palestinian land. That's the first issue. Secondly, why do no other Muslim countries (and there are plenty surrounding tiny Israel) want the Palestinians?
I do wish you would learn to spell Israel correctly, but maybe you think you're being cute by misspelling it.
Eff Israel? The chosen people of Jesus Christ. Are you truly that stupid? Or evil?

It is not our job or responsibility to pay to rebuild Gaza. U.S. tax dollars paid to destroy Gaza. U.S. tax dollars will be paid to rebuild Gaza? W T F are we doing? The idiocy and in inefficiency of our federal government is just mind-numbing, no matter who occupies the White House it seems.

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Yeah, let's go back the the disaster of the past half century. You need to unplug your internet.

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It is non of our business. Let Isreal fight their own fight. Oh, did I mention that it is a serious violation of International Law? Yeah, son, let's just go take over the Palestinian land and send them elsewhere where no one wants them. Eff Isreal and Bibi.

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It's not Palestinian land. That's the first issue. Secondly, why do no other Muslim countries (and there are plenty surrounding tiny Israel) want the Palestinians?
I do wish you would learn to spell Israel correctly, but maybe you think you're being cute by misspelling it.
Eff Israel? The chosen people of Jesus Christ. Are you truly that stupid? Or evil?

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Not to get technical and derail the thread, but this is what I was referring to earlier about why the USA has such a thing for Israel.

They are no longer the chosen people of Christ. God divorced Judah just as he did her sister (Northern 10 tribes) Israel. Jeremiah 1-4.

Matthew 21 is Christ talking about how the kingdom would be taken away from the Jews and given to the Gentiles. Christianity would comprised of Jews that converted to Christianity and gentiles. 'The new testament version of Jerusalem' - the church of the firstborn - Heb 12:23-23.

Their old testament physical earthly kingdom would be destroyed and cast into the sea, like the fig tree that beareth no fruit.

I am not anti-Israel as an ally... For all the reasons Whiterock listed in his post. But we sort of have this underlying unspoken misguided belief that the Jews are STILL God's chosen people. They rejected Christ. They played the Harlot turning to Rome over God. So he 'cast them into the sea.'

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Yeah, let's go back the the disaster of the past half century. You need to unplug your internet.

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It is non of our business. Let Isreal fight their own fight. Oh, did I mention that it is a serious violation of International Law? Yeah, son, let's just go take over the Palestinian land and send them elsewhere where no one wants them. Eff Isreal and Bibi.

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It's not Palestinian land. That's the first issue. Secondly, why do no other Muslim countries (and there are plenty surrounding tiny Israel) want the Palestinians?
I do wish you would learn to spell Israel correctly, but maybe you think you're being cute by misspelling it.
Eff Israel? The chosen people of Jesus Christ. Are you truly that stupid? Or evil?

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How is Palestine/Gaza not Palestinian land? Also, the jews are not the chose people of Jesus Christ bc the Christians are the chosen people of Christ. If you recall, the Jews killed Christ and curse his name to this day.

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Yeah, let's go back the the disaster of the past half century. You need to unplug your internet.

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It is non of our business. Let Isreal fight their own fight. Oh, did I mention that it is a serious violation of International Law? Yeah, son, let's just go take over the Palestinian land and send them elsewhere where no one wants them. Eff Isreal and Bibi.

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Eff Israel? The chosen people of Jesus Christ. Are you truly that stupid? Or evil?

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Lets be honest there is a whole debate around if the Biblical Israel is the same as the modern day nation State of Israel created in 1948

The idea that there is one to one relation is a very Dispensationalist Christian idea of the 20th Century.

Certainly no 100% Christian consensus on the matter.

[Just as many people equate "Palestinian" with "Muslim," so many people equate "Israeli" with "Jewish." Both equations are false. As for the "Palestinian = Muslim" equation, there is in fact a small but significant Palestinian Christian community. And as for the "Israeli = Jewish" equation, the ethnic and religious demographics of Israel are much more complex than this. Around 20% of Israelis are Arab, most of those practicing Muslims, and over 40% of Jewish Israelis identify themselves as "secular Jews" Jews by ethnicity only, not by religion.

It was ancient Israel, a theocratic, tribalistic society that became a monarchy, that God brought into covenant with himself through Moses. The modern nation of Israel strives to be a liberal democracy, but that in itself means it is not the equivalent of ancient Israel]

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It is not our job or responsibility to pay to rebuild Gaza. U.S. tax dollars paid to destroy Gaza. U.S. tax dollars will be paid to rebuild Gaza? W T F are we doing? The idiocy and in inefficiency of our federal government is just mind-numbing, no matter who occupies the White House it seems.

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Trump never said it would come out of our pocketbook. If you look at what he has been doing, he's using 'other people's money'. He is brilliant the way he is playing this vs that.

This is what happens when you get a smart businessman running the country vs a mentally bogged down politician

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Mar-a-lago of the Mediterranean

Who all would this trigger?

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All the neighbors.

pic.twitter.com/VXE8s0pDQR https://t.co/ZCMyBjPqBH

— Noam Blum (@neontaster) February 5, 2025

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pic.twitter.com/VXE8s0pDQR https://t.co/ZCMyBjPqBH

— Noam Blum (@neontaster) February 5, 2025

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Good catch!

Being responsible for reconstruction and actually owning the territory are two very different things. Wonder what we are really going for here?

.@SecRubio on Gaza: "What President Trump announced yesterday is the offer, the willingness of the United States to become responsible for the reconstruction of that area...it's an enormous undertaking...It was not meant as a hostile move. It was meant as a very generous move." pic.twitter.com/AuOOxQzAYV

— CSPAN (@cspan) February 5, 2025

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https://www.breitbart.com/middle-east/2025/02/04/trump-u-s-will-take-over-gaza-we-will-own-it/

Woah. Pretty big press conference with Bibi. Trump basically saying he's done with this 2-state failure of an experiment. He said its time to change course in Gaza and the USA will be involved. He is going to turn it into an international community and call it the Riviera of the Middle East where people can come from all over the world and live peacefully in a very nice community.

He's not wrong. The short lived Palestinian state has been a disaster. Time to try something else. 'Gaza is a hell-hole.'

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riiigt. just pathetic. Let Isreal stand on their own. No more aid. I thought Trumpy Bear was a man of no wars. Who in the eff gives him the right to take over a piece of land in the Middle East. To use you RWNJs Merca first, why in the world would this be remotely palatable. Who in the hell does he think is going to develop the new Riviera? Trump and Jared. This takes grifting to a new level even for that POS. Truly unbelievable. Bibi is evil. Screw him as he is doing nothing but trying to save his own skin. Never, ever will happen and it shouldn't. Hello Hitler!

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Tired of winning already?

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nope. so. you think this a good idea?, TBL

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"The TDSers takes him literally, but not seriously; his supporters take him seriously, but not literally."

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tin-man..(TBL).you did not answer the question. do you think this is a good idea?

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Trump is doing amazing work so far ….but this Gaza plan ( as initially described ) is a horrible idea for a myriad of reasons .

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why do you insist on taking him literally?

does it matter if it will work or not, or ever happens, as long as it changes perceptions among the key players?

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because I guess I have a tendency to take serious people at their word. My bad.

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Yeah, let's go back the the disaster of the past half century. You need to unplug your internet.

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It is non of our business. Let Isreal fight their own fight. Oh, did I mention that it is a serious violation of International Law? Yeah, son, let's just go take over the Palestinian land and send them elsewhere where no one wants them. Eff Isreal and Bibi.

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I don't recall you saying that about Ukraine. Isn't it your position Biden did the right thing by proving billions in aid?

Or is it bad only when it occurs under Trump?

For the record, I agree with the premise - but believe it should apply to countries we were supporting under the Biden admin as well. But I am not a hypocrite.

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correct on Ukraine. The big difference is that Ukraine is a sovereign nation that was invaded by another nation. Isreal has not been invaded.

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https://www.breitbart.com/middle-east/2025/02/04/trump-u-s-will-take-over-gaza-we-will-own-it/

Woah. Pretty big press conference with Bibi. Trump basically saying he's done with this 2-state failure of an experiment. He said its time to change course in Gaza and the USA will be involved. He is going to turn it into an international community and call it the Riviera of the Middle East where people can come from all over the world and live peacefully in a very nice community.

He's not wrong. The short lived Palestinian state has been a disaster. Time to try something else. 'Gaza is a hell-hole.'

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riiigt. just pathetic. Let Isreal stand on their own. No more aid. I thought Trumpy Bear was a man of no wars. Who in the eff gives him the right to take over a piece of land in the Middle East. To use you RWNJs Merca first, why in the world would this be remotely palatable. Who in the hell does he think is going to develop the new Riviera? Trump and Jared. This takes grifting to a new level even for that POS. Truly unbelievable. Bibi is evil. Screw him as he is doing nothing but trying to save his own skin. Never, ever will happen and it shouldn't. Hello Hitler!

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Tired of winning already?

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nope. so. you think this a good idea?, TBL

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"The TDSers takes him literally, but not seriously; his supporters take him seriously, but not literally."

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tin-man..(TBL).you did not answer the question. do you think this is a good idea?

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Trump is doing amazing work so far ….but this Gaza plan ( as initially described ) is a horrible idea for a myriad of reasons .

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why do you insist on taking him literally?

does it matter if it will work or not, or ever happens, as long as it changes perceptions among the key players?

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because I guess I have a tendency to take serious people at their word. My bad.

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history has shown you how you should take him, if you choose not to then that is on you..

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Yeah, let's go back the the disaster of the past half century. You need to unplug your internet.

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It is non of our business. Let Isreal fight their own fight. Oh, did I mention that it is a serious violation of International Law? Yeah, son, let's just go take over the Palestinian land and send them elsewhere where no one wants them. Eff Isreal and Bibi.

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It's not Palestinian land. That's the first issue. Secondly, why do no other Muslim countries (and there are plenty surrounding tiny Israel) want the Palestinians?
I do wish you would learn to spell Israel correctly, but maybe you think you're being cute by misspelling it.
Eff Israel? The chosen people of Jesus Christ. Are you truly that stupid? Or evil?

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just stop with the Bible thumping. I could care less if they are chosen or not. They and particularly are bad actors and do not deserve or need our $ or armament .

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https://www.breitbart.com/middle-east/2025/02/04/trump-u-s-will-take-over-gaza-we-will-own-it/

Woah. Pretty big press conference with Bibi. Trump basically saying he's done with this 2-state failure of an experiment. He said its time to change course in Gaza and the USA will be involved. He is going to turn it into an international community and call it the Riviera of the Middle East where people can come from all over the world and live peacefully in a very nice community.

He's not wrong. The short lived Palestinian state has been a disaster. Time to try something else. 'Gaza is a hell-hole.'

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riiigt. just pathetic. Let Isreal stand on their own. No more aid. I thought Trumpy Bear was a man of no wars. Who in the eff gives him the right to take over a piece of land in the Middle East. To use you RWNJs Merca first, why in the world would this be remotely palatable. Who in the hell does he think is going to develop the new Riviera? Trump and Jared. This takes grifting to a new level even for that POS. Truly unbelievable. Bibi is evil. Screw him as he is doing nothing but trying to save his own skin. Never, ever will happen and it shouldn't. Hello Hitler!

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Tired of winning already?

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nope. so. you think this a good idea?, TBL

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"The TDSers takes him literally, but not seriously; his supporters take him seriously, but not literally."

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tin-man..(TBL).you did not answer the question. do you think this is a good idea?

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Trump is doing amazing work so far ….but this Gaza plan ( as initially described ) is a horrible idea for a myriad of reasons .

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why do you insist on taking him literally?

does it matter if it will work or not, or ever happens, as long as it changes perceptions among the key players?

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because I guess I have a tendency to take serious people at their word. My bad.

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history has shown you how you should take him, if you choose not to then that is on you..

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yeah, its on me that he is a pathological liar. yep. Oh, btw. Saudi told Trump to pound sand today. They and the other Arab countries will not pay a dime for this farce. Who's left to pay? Merca!

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https://www.breitbart.com/middle-east/2025/02/04/trump-u-s-will-take-over-gaza-we-will-own-it/

Woah. Pretty big press conference with Bibi. Trump basically saying he's done with this 2-state failure of an experiment. He said its time to change course in Gaza and the USA will be involved. He is going to turn it into an international community and call it the Riviera of the Middle East where people can come from all over the world and live peacefully in a very nice community.

He's not wrong. The short lived Palestinian state has been a disaster. Time to try something else. 'Gaza is a hell-hole.'

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riiigt. just pathetic. Let Isreal stand on their own. No more aid. I thought Trumpy Bear was a man of no wars. Who in the eff gives him the right to take over a piece of land in the Middle East. To use you RWNJs Merca first, why in the world would this be remotely palatable. Who in the hell does he think is going to develop the new Riviera? Trump and Jared. This takes grifting to a new level even for that POS. Truly unbelievable. Bibi is evil. Screw him as he is doing nothing but trying to save his own skin. Never, ever will happen and it shouldn't. Hello Hitler!

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Tired of winning already?

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nope. so. you think this a good idea?, TBL

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"The TDSers takes him literally, but not seriously; his supporters take him seriously, but not literally."

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tin-man..(TBL).you did not answer the question. do you think this is a good idea?

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Trump is doing amazing work so far ….but this Gaza plan ( as initially described ) is a horrible idea for a myriad of reasons .

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why do you insist on taking him literally?

does it matter if it will work or not, or ever happens, as long as it changes perceptions among the key players?

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because I guess I have a tendency to take serious people at their word. My bad.

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history has shown you how you should take him, if you choose not to then that is on you..

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Yes, he says a lot of dumb **** that never pans out or has to be walked back. That's what history shows. You can add this as exhibit 547.