Hey! Maybe The Madagascar Plan will work this time!

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Yeah, let's go back the the disaster of the past half century. You need to unplug your internet.

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It is non of our business. Let Isreal fight their own fight. Oh, did I mention that it is a serious violation of International Law? Yeah, son, let's just go take over the Palestinian land and send them elsewhere where no one wants them. Eff Isreal and Bibi.

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I don't recall you saying that about Ukraine. Isn't it your position Biden did the right thing by proving billions in aid?

Or is it bad only when it occurs under Trump?

For the record, I agree with the premise - but believe it should apply to countries we were supporting under the Biden admin as well. But I am not a hypocrite.

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Wow, that was a huuuuge idea. Hope you all saw the press conference.

US to somehow control AND develop Gaza, with investment from other middle-east countries.

Lots to digest, will see how it develops.

You can bet Trump has already talked about this with Israel and Saudi. Now can they get the rest on board?

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/level-it-trump-says-us-take-over-gaza-strip-rebuild

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Arab countries will chit all over this craziness . Where do you put 2M people for Trumpy Bear's riviera? Untenable.

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You could house them among all your ranches since you have a hard-on for Jew haters.

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What is the hold that Israeli politicians have on our government….even Trump ?

You’re just missing the part where we say Gaza is America so American sons and daughters are willing to sign up and die for Israel’s expansion.

Other than that I think you covered the bases. https://t.co/eAYGc86F3P

— Candace Owens (@RealCandaceO) February 5, 2025

This is a terrible idea but Mirriam Adelson gave Trump $100 million so now its Israel first and America last.

Saudi Arabia is already opposed to this Trump fantasy.

He needs to back away from this insanity before it destroys his presidency.

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Misinterpretations of the Bible. Not understanding God's use of metaphors.

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Misinterpretations of the Bible. Not understanding God's use of metaphors.

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Trump is simply way off on this one.

Goes against everything he campaigned on.

What in the world is the Israelis hold on our government ?

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Misinterpretations of the Bible. Not understanding God's use of metaphors.

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Trump is simply way off on this one.

Goes against everything he campaigned on.

What in the world is the Israelis hold on our government ?

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I just told you. United States policy for decades has been based on thinking God is going to come back and establish an earthly kingdom in literal Jerusalem.

However, he corrects this notion and says, "My Kingdom is not of this world."

That is why we perpetually make the mistake of getting involved over there. Israel being one of the only democracies in the region is a small factor I guess.

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Misinterpretations of the Bible. Not understanding God's use of metaphors.

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Trump is simply way off on this one.

Goes against everything he campaigned on.

What in the world is the Israelis hold on our government ?

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I just told you. United States policy for decades has been based on thinking God is going to come back and establish an earthly kingdom in literal Jerusalem.

However, he corrects this notion and says, "My Kingdom is not of this world."

That is why we perpetually make the mistake of getting involved over there. Israel being one of the only democracies in the region is a small factor I guess.

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Got to be more to it.

You don't see France, England, Italy , Sweden, Canada, Australia, Mexico, Brazil, Germany, Norway, , Brazil , Argentina, or even Belgium repeatedly provide Israel billions ( and in the case trillions of dollars ) in aid whenever an Israeli prime minister shows up in their respective capitals.

Would like to see Musk's put his teams spotlight on this open conflict of US interests.

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What is the hold that Israeli politicians have on our government….even Trump ?

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Misinterpretations of the Bible. Not understanding God's use of metaphors.

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Trump is simply way off on this one.

Goes against everything he campaigned on.

What in the world is the Israelis hold on our government ?

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I just told you. United States policy for decades has been based on thinking God is going to come back and establish an earthly kingdom in literal Jerusalem.

However, he corrects this notion and says, "My Kingdom is not of this world."

That is why we perpetually make the mistake of getting involved over there. Israel being one of the only democracies in the region is a small factor I guess.

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Got to be more to it.

You don't see France, England, Italy , Sweden, Canada, Australia, Mexico, Brazil, Germany, Norway, , Brazil , Argentina, or even Belgium repeatedly provide Israel billions ( and in the case trillions of dollars ) in aid whenever an Israeli prime minister shows up in their respective capitals.

Would like to see Musk's put his teams spotlight on this open conflict of US interests.

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Dont hold your breath on that. Elon is controlled also. They already forced him to take a trip to Auschwitz with Ben Shapiro and Netanyahu last year when they determined there wasnt enough censorship on X. Also, many of those countries you listed have a Zionist leader or are controlled by Israel. Germany (obvious), Argentina (Millei is a zio puppet), Mexico (Sheinbaum), etc.

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Misinterpretations of the Bible. Not understanding God's use of metaphors.

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Trump is simply way off on this one.

Goes against everything he campaigned on.

What in the world is the Israelis hold on our government ?

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Suspect this is gamesmanship and negotiating tactics more than anything else. Highly doubtful Trump puts our troops over there, or commits large sums of money to rebuild Gaza. It would not be in line with what he did during his first term.

As with all things Trump, he talks a big game, and this motivates other countries to act accordingly so that he won't follow through with his threats. It's a gamble, but has worked pretty well thus far.

That said, I am fine with giving Israel the greenlight to finish off Hamas. They are a scourge and should be wiped off the map. I think the Israelis have to be careful, however, in how they do it. Also fine with greenlighting the destruction of Iran's nuclear facilities.

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What is the hold that Israeli politicians have on our government….even Trump ?

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Misinterpretations of the Bible. Not understanding God's use of metaphors.

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Trump is simply way off on this one.

Goes against everything he campaigned on.

What in the world is the Israelis hold on our government ?

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Suspect this is gamesmanship and negotiating tactics more than anything else. Highly doubtful Trump puts our troops over there, or commits large sums of money to rebuild Gaza. It would not be in line with what he did during his first term.

As with all things Trump, he talks a big game, and this motivates other countries to act accordingly so that he won't follow through with his threats. It's a gamble, but has worked pretty well thus far.

That said, I am fine with giving Israel the greenlight to finish off Hamas. They are a scourge and should be wiped off the map. I think the Israelis have to be careful, however, in how they do it.

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Hussein gambled well in regards to Kuwait….until he didn't.

IMO Trump is risking his entire presidency on behalf of Israel.

No other country in the world has repeatedly provided unlimited military and financial support for Israel.

And this deal, as presented will cost trillions of dollars the US doesn't have. Not to mention the lives of US solders and civilian contractors.

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Saddam was not the threat we are. I agree if Trump follows through, it would be a huge mistake. But I think the chances of us doing what he suggested are slim to none.

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Misinterpretations of the Bible. Not understanding God's use of metaphors.

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Trump is simply way off on this one.

Goes against everything he campaigned on.

What in the world is the Israelis hold on our government ?

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I just told you. United States policy for decades has been based on thinking God is going to come back and establish an earthly kingdom in literal Jerusalem.

However, he corrects this notion and says, "My Kingdom is not of this world."

That is why we perpetually make the mistake of getting involved over there. Israel being one of the only democracies in the region is a small factor I guess.

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I assure you that our government is not supporting Israel due to Evangelicals general support of Israel.

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The US owning land in the Middle East sounds looney tunes to me. Feels like inventing new problems for our country to deal with when we've got more pressing issues at home.

Is this a Trump bluff to try and accelerate some other desired outcome?

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That…or Trump just thinks any land inhabited by Arabs near water can be turned into Dubai lol

Of course Gaza does not have what the Qatar and the UAE does….an ocean of oil and petrochemicals

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Trump did say something about turning it into a Middle East Riveria. It sounds like a nice dream but maybe not very feasible. We will have to see how it develops and who gets on board & who is willing to help finance the clean up & rebuilding.

Another report. Check out the video clip:

https://notthebee.com/article/trump-announces-the-us-will-take-over-the-gaza-strip

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REPORTER: You are talking tonight about the US taking over a sovereign territory. What authority would allow you to do that? Are you talking about a permanent occupation?

TRUMP: I do see a long term ownership position pic.twitter.com/EbEI37jYDN

— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) February 5, 2025

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In Trumps defense Gaza has never been sovereign

It's been a part of various empires from pre-Rome all the way to the Ottoman Empire.

And it's been under the direct or defacto control of Israel for decades.

Not sure it's a good idea for us to try and manage 2 million rowdy Palestinians in an area smaller than Austin.

But the whole "sovereignty" bit is just a legal fiction.

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I bet Austin would take the Palestinians

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The US owning land in the Middle East sounds looney tunes to me. Feels like inventing new problems for our country to deal with when we've got more pressing issues at home.
Jared did. Saw the footage last night. Nothing but a grift!
Is this a Trump bluff to try and accelerate some other desired outcome?

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That…or Trump just thinks any land inhabited by Arabs near water can be turned into Dubai lol

Of course Gaza does not have what the Qatar and the UAE does….an ocean of oil and petrochemicals

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Trump did say something about turning it into a Middle East Riveria. It sounds like a nice dream but maybe not very feasible. We will have to see how it develops and who gets on board & who is willing to help finance the clean up & rebuilding.

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Yeah, let's go back the the disaster of the past half century. You need to unplug your internet.

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It is non of our business. Let Isreal fight their own fight. Oh, did I mention that it is a serious violation of International Law? Yeah, son, let's just go take over the Palestinian land and send them elsewhere where no one wants them. Eff Isreal and Bibi.

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I don't recall you saying that about Ukraine. Isn't it your position Biden did the right thing by proving billions in aid?

Or is it bad only when it occurs under Trump?

For the record, I agree with the premise - but believe it should apply to countries we were supporting under the Biden admin as well. But I am not a hypocrite.

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I realize it takes a small amount of logic to understand the difference between having someone else fight your battle for you and fighting a battle for someone else.