Trump's Riviera of the Middle East

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https://www.breitbart.com/middle-east/2025/02/04/trump-u-s-will-take-over-gaza-we-will-own-it/

Woah. Pretty big press conference with Bibi. Trump basically saying he's done with this 2-state failure of an experiment. He said its time to change course in Gaza and the USA will be involved. He is going to turn it into an international community and call it the Riviera of the Middle East where people can come from all over the world and live peacefully in a very nice community.

He's not wrong. The short lived Palestinian state has been a disaster. Time to try something else. 'Gaza is a hell-hole.'
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Wow, that was a huuuuge idea. Hope you all saw the press conference.

US to somehow control AND develop Gaza, with investment from other middle-east countries.

Lots to digest, will see how it develops.

You can bet Trump has already talked about this with Israel and Saudi. Now can they get the rest on board?

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/level-it-trump-says-us-take-over-gaza-strip-rebuild
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Married A Horn said:

https://www.breitbart.com/middle-east/2025/02/04/trump-u-s-will-take-over-gaza-we-will-own-it/

Woah. Pretty big press conference with Bibi. Trump basically saying he's done with this 2-state failure of an experiment. He said its time to change course in Gaza and the USA will be involved. He is going to turn it into an international community and call it the Riviera of the Middle East where people can come from all over the world and live peacefully in a very nice community.

He's not wrong. The short lived Palestinian state has been a disaster. Time to try something else. 'Gaza is a hell-hole.'
riiigt. just pathetic. Let Isreal stand on their own. No more aid. I thought Trumpy Bear was a man of no wars. Who in the eff gives him the right to take over a piece of land in the Middle East. To use you RWNJs Merca first, why in the world would this be remotely palatable. Who in the hell does he think is going to develop the new Riviera? Trump and Jared. This takes grifting to a new level even for that POS. Truly unbelievable. Bibi is evil. Screw him as he is doing nothing but trying to save his own skin. Never, ever will happen and it shouldn't. Hello Hitler!
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Quote:

Netanyahu lauded Trump's tenacity and ability "to think outside the box" during his comments to the press.

"Your willingness to puncture conventional thinking, thinking that has failed time and time and time again, your willingness to think outside the box with fresh ideas, will help us achieve all these goals," he said. "And I've seen you do this many times. You cut to the chase. You see things others refuse to see. You say things others refuse to say, you know. And after the jaws drop, people scratch their heads and they say, you know, he's right."
This is what everyone but the TDS see in Trump.
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boognish_bear said:


We do not need to own anything in that entire region.

Trillions of dollars will be wasted.
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TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:


Wow, that was a huuuuge idea. Hope you all saw the press conference.

US to somehow control AND develop Gaza, with investment from other middle-east countries.

Lots to digest, will see how it develops.

You can bet Trump has already talked about this with Israel and Saudi. Now can they get the rest on board?

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/level-it-trump-says-us-take-over-gaza-strip-rebuild
Arab countries will chit all over this craziness . Where do you put 2M people for Trumpy Bear's riviera? Untenable.
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Yeah, let's go back the the disaster of the past half century. You need to unplug your internet.
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I'm not really for the US 'owning' land in the Middle East. I am very much for a different route than what they are currently trying.

But this is a very long term idea that is just getting started. No way we'll have an answer on if whatever this morphs into is good or bad.
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Married A Horn said:

Yeah, let's go back the the disaster of the past half century. You need to unplug your internet.
It is non of our business. Let Isreal fight their own fight. Oh, did I mention that it is a serious violation of International Law? Yeah, son, let's just go take over the Palestinian land and send them elsewhere where no one wants them. Eff Isreal and Bibi.
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In Trumps defense Gaza has never been sovereign

It's been a part of various empires from pre-Rome all the way to the Ottoman Empire.

And it's been under the direct or defacto control of Israel for decades.

Not sure it's a good idea for us to try and manage 2 million rowdy Palestinians in an area smaller than Austin.

But the whole "sovereignty" bit is just a legal fiction.



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You are especially triggered tonight. You may want to unplug that Internet for the next 4 years. You are going to be very very bitter and unhappy.
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J.R. said:

TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:


Wow, that was a huuuuge idea. Hope you all saw the press conference.

US to somehow control AND develop Gaza, with investment from other middle-east countries.

Lots to digest, will see how it develops.

You can bet Trump has already talked about this with Israel and Saudi. Now can they get the rest on board?

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/level-it-trump-says-us-take-over-gaza-strip-rebuild
Arab countries will chit all over this craziness . Where do you put 2M people for Trumpy Bear's riviera? Untenable.


Totally agree.

Whatever we build would be target # 1

Trump needs to back away from this asap.
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The US owning land in the Middle East sounds looney tunes to me. Feels like inventing new problems for our country to deal with when we've got more pressing issues at home.

Is this a Trump bluff to try and accelerate some other desired outcome?
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Married A Horn said:

You are especially triggered tonight. You may want to unplug that Internet for the next 4 years. You are going to be very very bitter and unhappy.
eff you, moron. You think this is a good idea or remotely possible? If you do , you are more insane than previously thought. Don't you think ole fat orange has bigger fish to fry , such as inflation, tarriffs (see inflation),
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KaiBear said:

J.R. said:

TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:


Wow, that was a huuuuge idea. Hope you all saw the press conference.

US to somehow control AND develop Gaza, with investment from other middle-east countries.

Lots to digest, will see how it develops.

You can bet Trump has already talked about this with Israel and Saudi. Now can they get the rest on board?

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/level-it-trump-says-us-take-over-gaza-strip-rebuild
Arab countries will chit all over this craziness . Where do you put 2M people for Trumpy Bear's riviera? Untenable.


Totally agree.

Whatever we build would be target # 1

Trump needs to back away from this asap.


Not if he gets the Saudis and other sane Middle Eastern countries heavily involved. I'm not sure of all the details - no one can be at this point... it was a bombshell that he dropped that no one was ready for. I'll hold judgement until hearing more.
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boognish_bear said:

The US owning land in the Middle East sounds looney tunes to me. Feels like inventing new problems for our country to deal with when we've got more pressing issues at home.

Is this a Trump bluff to try and accelerate some other desired outcome?


That…or Trump just thinks any land inhabited by Arabs near water can be turned into Dubai lol

Of course Gaza does not have what the Qatar and the UAE does….an ocean of oil and petrochemicals
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In your triggered rage you missed this:

https://sicem365.com/forums/7/topics/148657/replies/4054543
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Wiles may not be sold on it...

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KaiBear said:

J.R. said:

TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:


Wow, that was a huuuuge idea. Hope you all saw the press conference.

US to somehow control AND develop Gaza, with investment from other middle-east countries.

Lots to digest, will see how it develops.

You can bet Trump has already talked about this with Israel and Saudi. Now can they get the rest on board?

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/level-it-trump-says-us-take-over-gaza-strip-rebuild
Arab countries will chit all over this craziness . Where do you put 2M people for Trumpy Bear's riviera? Untenable.


Totally agree.

Whatever we build would be target # 1

Trump needs to back away from this asap.
I believe the premise is that it would be developed with America and Arab allies. He's smart enough to know that America can't just go in and take it over. Arab countries would also have ownership stakes. As would Israel.

As for JR's two cents - Israel standing on its own. Let's be real, they've already won. Now all the hostages and resettlement are just window dressing. Israel will not let Hamas back in. This is a solution for everyone, and you can bet the Hamas leaders will be owners as well.

I don't initially want any part of the middle east, but if anything is going to succeed, a joint venture does stand a chance. I'll at least wait to see what he can negotiate. And I'm quite sure he already has commitments from Saudi and Qatar.
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TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

KaiBear said:

J.R. said:

TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:


Wow, that was a huuuuge idea. Hope you all saw the press conference.

US to somehow control AND develop Gaza, with investment from other middle-east countries.

Lots to digest, will see how it develops.

You can bet Trump has already talked about this with Israel and Saudi. Now can they get the rest on board?

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/level-it-trump-says-us-take-over-gaza-strip-rebuild
Arab countries will chit all over this craziness . Where do you put 2M people for Trumpy Bear's riviera? Untenable.


Totally agree.

Whatever we build would be target # 1

Trump needs to back away from this asap.
I believe the premise is that it would be developed with America and Arab allies. He's smart enough to know that America can't just go in and take it over. Arab countries would also have ownership stakes. As would Israel.

As for JR's two cents - Israel standing on its own. Let's be real, they've already won. Now all the hostages and resettlement are just window dressing. Israel will not let Hamas back in. This is a solution for everyone, and you can bet the Hamas leaders will be owners as well.

I don't initially want any part of the middle east, but if anything is going to succeed, a joint venture does stand a chance.


Yea he is a smart guy

He is probably just bluffing about the whole "occupation of Gaza" to get concessions from both sides

Neither Hamas radicals nor Israeli hardliners want Trump and 30,000 marines in Gaza running things
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TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

KaiBear said:

J.R. said:

TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:


Wow, that was a huuuuge idea. Hope you all saw the press conference.

US to somehow control AND develop Gaza, with investment from other middle-east countries.

Lots to digest, will see how it develops.

You can bet Trump has already talked about this with Israel and Saudi. Now can they get the rest on board?

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/level-it-trump-says-us-take-over-gaza-strip-rebuild
Arab countries will chit all over this craziness . Where do you put 2M people for Trumpy Bear's riviera? Untenable.


Totally agree.

Whatever we build would be target # 1

Trump needs to back away from this asap.
I believe the premise is that it would be developed with America and Arab allies. He's smart enough to know that America can't just go in and take it over. Arab countries would also have ownership stakes. As would Israel.

As for JR's two cents - Israel standing on its own. Let's be real, they've already won. Now all the hostages and resettlement are just window dressing. Israel will not let Hamas back in. This is a solution for everyone, and you can bet the Hamas leaders will be owners as well.

I don't initially want any part of the middle east, but if anything is going to succeed, a joint venture does stand a chance. I'll at least wait to see what he can negotiate. And I'm quite sure he already has commitments from Saudi and Qatar.


We don't have the money for this BS.

Horribly stupid idea.

What the hell happened to America First ?
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Redbrickbear said:

TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

KaiBear said:

J.R. said:

TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:


Wow, that was a huuuuge idea. Hope you all saw the press conference.

US to somehow control AND develop Gaza, with investment from other middle-east countries.

Lots to digest, will see how it develops.

You can bet Trump has already talked about this with Israel and Saudi. Now can they get the rest on board?

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/level-it-trump-says-us-take-over-gaza-strip-rebuild
Arab countries will chit all over this craziness . Where do you put 2M people for Trumpy Bear's riviera? Untenable.


Totally agree.

Whatever we build would be target # 1

Trump needs to back away from this asap.
I believe the premise is that it would be developed with America and Arab allies. He's smart enough to know that America can't just go in and take it over. Arab countries would also have ownership stakes. As would Israel.

As for JR's two cents - Israel standing on its own. Let's be real, they've already won. Now all the hostages and resettlement are just window dressing. Israel will not let Hamas back in. This is a solution for everyone, and you can bet the Hamas leaders will be owners as well.

I don't initially want any part of the middle east, but if anything is going to succeed, a joint venture does stand a chance.


Yea he is a smart guy

He is probably just bluffing about the whole "occupation of Gaza" to get concessions from both sides

Neither Hamas radicals nor Israeli hardliners want Trump and 30,000 marines in Gaza running things
While that could be the case, I actually believe that he intends to develop it as a joint venture between the US, Saudi, Qatar, Egypt, Jordan, and likely Israel. It will be an international destination. It's a very good solution that profits everyone in the middle east. And you can't repopulate it with the very same Israel hating Palestinian people who voted for Hamas anyway.
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KaiBear said:

TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

KaiBear said:

J.R. said:

TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:


Wow, that was a huuuuge idea. Hope you all saw the press conference.

US to somehow control AND develop Gaza, with investment from other middle-east countries.

Lots to digest, will see how it develops.

You can bet Trump has already talked about this with Israel and Saudi. Now can they get the rest on board?

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/level-it-trump-says-us-take-over-gaza-strip-rebuild
Arab countries will chit all over this craziness . Where do you put 2M people for Trumpy Bear's riviera? Untenable.


Totally agree.

Whatever we build would be target # 1

Trump needs to back away from this asap.
I believe the premise is that it would be developed with America and Arab allies. He's smart enough to know that America can't just go in and take it over. Arab countries would also have ownership stakes. As would Israel.

As for JR's two cents - Israel standing on its own. Let's be real, they've already won. Now all the hostages and resettlement are just window dressing. Israel will not let Hamas back in. This is a solution for everyone, and you can bet the Hamas leaders will be owners as well.

I don't initially want any part of the middle east, but if anything is going to succeed, a joint venture does stand a chance. I'll at least wait to see what he can negotiate. And I'm quite sure he already has commitments from Saudi and Qatar.


We don't have the money for this BS.

Horribly stupid idea.

What the hell happened to America First ?


Let's wait and see before making these hardline statements. Could be entirely Saudi and Qatar money. We still have no idea what he meant by what he dropped tonight.
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TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

Redbrickbear said:

TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

KaiBear said:

J.R. said:

TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:


Wow, that was a huuuuge idea. Hope you all saw the press conference.

US to somehow control AND develop Gaza, with investment from other middle-east countries.

Lots to digest, will see how it develops.

You can bet Trump has already talked about this with Israel and Saudi. Now can they get the rest on board?

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/level-it-trump-says-us-take-over-gaza-strip-rebuild
Arab countries will chit all over this craziness . Where do you put 2M people for Trumpy Bear's riviera? Untenable.


Totally agree.

Whatever we build would be target # 1

Trump needs to back away from this asap.
I believe the premise is that it would be developed with America and Arab allies. He's smart enough to know that America can't just go in and take it over. Arab countries would also have ownership stakes. As would Israel.

As for JR's two cents - Israel standing on its own. Let's be real, they've already won. Now all the hostages and resettlement are just window dressing. Israel will not let Hamas back in. This is a solution for everyone, and you can bet the Hamas leaders will be owners as well.

I don't initially want any part of the middle east, but if anything is going to succeed, a joint venture does stand a chance.


Yea he is a smart guy

He is probably just bluffing about the whole "occupation of Gaza" to get concessions from both sides

Neither Hamas radicals nor Israeli hardliners want Trump and 30,000 marines in Gaza running things
While that could be the case, I actually believe that he intends to develop it as a joint venture between the US, Saudi, Qatar, Egypt, Jordan, and likely Israel. It will be an international destination. It's a very good solution that profits everyone in the middle east. And you can't repopulate it with the very same Israel hating Palestinian people who voted for Hamas anyway.


Would be a rather hilarious outcome to this war if true

Both Hamas and Israel lose Gaza lol

And it becomes a hybrid US-Saudi-Jordan-Egypt protectorate
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Married A Horn said:

KaiBear said:

TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

KaiBear said:

J.R. said:

TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:


Wow, that was a huuuuge idea. Hope you all saw the press conference.

US to somehow control AND develop Gaza, with investment from other middle-east countries.

Lots to digest, will see how it develops.

You can bet Trump has already talked about this with Israel and Saudi. Now can they get the rest on board?

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/level-it-trump-says-us-take-over-gaza-strip-rebuild
Arab countries will chit all over this craziness . Where do you put 2M people for Trumpy Bear's riviera? Untenable.


Totally agree.

Whatever we build would be target # 1

Trump needs to back away from this asap.
I believe the premise is that it would be developed with America and Arab allies. He's smart enough to know that America can't just go in and take it over. Arab countries would also have ownership stakes. As would Israel.

As for JR's two cents - Israel standing on its own. Let's be real, they've already won. Now all the hostages and resettlement are just window dressing. Israel will not let Hamas back in. This is a solution for everyone, and you can bet the Hamas leaders will be owners as well.

I don't initially want any part of the middle east, but if anything is going to succeed, a joint venture does stand a chance. I'll at least wait to see what he can negotiate. And I'm quite sure he already has commitments from Saudi and Qatar.


We don't have the money for this BS.

Horribly stupid idea.

What the hell happened to America First ?


Let's wait and see before making these hardline statements. Could be entirely Saudi and Qatar money. We still have no idea what he meant by what he dropped tonight.
It most certainly will include those two. The Hamas terrorists won't easily act against those two countries.
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Mar-a-lago of the Mediterranean

Who all would this trigger?
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What's next? Disney World Gaza?

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TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

KaiBear said:

J.R. said:

TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:


Wow, that was a huuuuge idea. Hope you all saw the press conference.

US to somehow control AND develop Gaza, with investment from other middle-east countries.

Lots to digest, will see how it develops.

You can bet Trump has already talked about this with Israel and Saudi. Now can they get the rest on board?

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/level-it-trump-says-us-take-over-gaza-strip-rebuild
Arab countries will chit all over this craziness . Where do you put 2M people for Trumpy Bear's riviera? Untenable.


Totally agree.

Whatever we build would be target # 1

Trump needs to back away from this asap.
I believe the premise is that it would be developed with America and Arab allies. He's smart enough to know that America can't just go in and take it over. Arab countries would also have ownership stakes. As would Israel.

As for JR's two cents - Israel standing on its own. Let's be real, they've already won. Now all the hostages and resettlement are just window dressing. Israel will not let Hamas back in. This is a solution for everyone, and you can bet the Hamas leaders will be owners as well.

I don't initially want any part of the middle east, but if anything is going to succeed, a joint venture does stand a chance. I'll at least wait to see what he can negotiate. And I'm quite sure he already has commitments from Saudi and Qatar.
If Isreal already won, let cut off 100% of aid and arms sales. Let them go at it alone.
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Redbrickbear said:

TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

Redbrickbear said:

TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

KaiBear said:

J.R. said:

TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:


Wow, that was a huuuuge idea. Hope you all saw the press conference.

US to somehow control AND develop Gaza, with investment from other middle-east countries.

Lots to digest, will see how it develops.

You can bet Trump has already talked about this with Israel and Saudi. Now can they get the rest on board?

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/level-it-trump-says-us-take-over-gaza-strip-rebuild
Arab countries will chit all over this craziness . Where do you put 2M people for Trumpy Bear's riviera? Untenable.


Totally agree.

Whatever we build would be target # 1

Trump needs to back away from this asap.
I believe the premise is that it would be developed with America and Arab allies. He's smart enough to know that America can't just go in and take it over. Arab countries would also have ownership stakes. As would Israel.

As for JR's two cents - Israel standing on its own. Let's be real, they've already won. Now all the hostages and resettlement are just window dressing. Israel will not let Hamas back in. This is a solution for everyone, and you can bet the Hamas leaders will be owners as well.

I don't initially want any part of the middle east, but if anything is going to succeed, a joint venture does stand a chance.


Yea he is a smart guy

He is probably just bluffing about the whole "occupation of Gaza" to get concessions from both sides

Neither Hamas radicals nor Israeli hardliners want Trump and 30,000 marines in Gaza running things
While that could be the case, I actually believe that he intends to develop it as a joint venture between the US, Saudi, Qatar, Egypt, Jordan, and likely Israel. It will be an international destination. It's a very good solution that profits everyone in the middle east. And you can't repopulate it with the very same Israel hating Palestinian people who voted for Hamas anyway.


Would be a rather hilarious outcome to this war if true

Both Hamas and Israel lose Gaza lol

And it becomes a hybrid US-Saudi-Jordan-Egypt protectorate
Yes, but Israel won't lose exactly. They will have to be included as well. Even if only as a silent, yet well compensated, partner. They absolutely will be long term compensated through one means or another.
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TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

KaiBear said:

J.R. said:

TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:


Wow, that was a huuuuge idea. Hope you all saw the press conference.

US to somehow control AND develop Gaza, with investment from other middle-east countries.

Lots to digest, will see how it develops.

You can bet Trump has already talked about this with Israel and Saudi. Now can they get the rest on board?

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/level-it-trump-says-us-take-over-gaza-strip-rebuild
Arab countries will chit all over this craziness . Where do you put 2M people for Trumpy Bear's riviera? Untenable.


Totally agree.

Whatever we build would be target # 1

Trump needs to back away from this asap.
I believe the premise is that it would be developed with America and Arab allies. He's smart enough to know that America can't just go in and take it over. Arab countries would also have ownership stakes. As would Israel.

As for JR's two cents - Israel standing on its own. Let's be real, they've already won. Now all the hostages and resettlement are just window dressing. Israel will not let Hamas back in. This is a solution for everyone, and you can bet the Hamas leaders will be owners as well.

I don't initially want any part of the middle east, but if anything is going to succeed, a joint venture does stand a chance. I'll at least wait to see what he can negotiate. And I'm quite sure he already has commitments from Saudi and Qatar.
Uh, Hamas didn't go anywhere. Neither did the rest of the Palestinians who survived. Israel is a long way from anything that could be called victory in Gaza.
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TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

Redbrickbear said:

TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

Redbrickbear said:

TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

KaiBear said:

J.R. said:

TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:


Wow, that was a huuuuge idea. Hope you all saw the press conference.

US to somehow control AND develop Gaza, with investment from other middle-east countries.

Lots to digest, will see how it develops.

You can bet Trump has already talked about this with Israel and Saudi. Now can they get the rest on board?

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/level-it-trump-says-us-take-over-gaza-strip-rebuild
Arab countries will chit all over this craziness . Where do you put 2M people for Trumpy Bear's riviera? Untenable.


Totally agree.

Whatever we build would be target # 1

Trump needs to back away from this asap.
I believe the premise is that it would be developed with America and Arab allies. He's smart enough to know that America can't just go in and take it over. Arab countries would also have ownership stakes. As would Israel.

As for JR's two cents - Israel standing on its own. Let's be real, they've already won. Now all the hostages and resettlement are just window dressing. Israel will not let Hamas back in. This is a solution for everyone, and you can bet the Hamas leaders will be owners as well.

I don't initially want any part of the middle east, but if anything is going to succeed, a joint venture does stand a chance.


Yea he is a smart guy

He is probably just bluffing about the whole "occupation of Gaza" to get concessions from both sides

Neither Hamas radicals nor Israeli hardliners want Trump and 30,000 marines in Gaza running things
While that could be the case, I actually believe that he intends to develop it as a joint venture between the US, Saudi, Qatar, Egypt, Jordan, and likely Israel. It will be an international destination. It's a very good solution that profits everyone in the middle east. And you can't repopulate it with the very same Israel hating Palestinian people who voted for Hamas anyway.


Would be a rather hilarious outcome to this war if true

Both Hamas and Israel lose Gaza lol

And it becomes a hybrid US-Saudi-Jordan-Egypt protectorate
Yes, but Israel won't lose exactly. They will have to be included as well. Even if only as a silent, yet well compensated, partner. They absolutely will be long term compensated through one means or another.
why? We don't owe Isreal anything. Let the chips fall where they may. what happened to all you Trumpians...Merca first. Hardly. Trump first.
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