Married A Horn said:
No. You can go look for it yourself. Its everywhere but MSM.
Let's just say you won't hear about any of this on MSLSD.
Married A Horn said:
No. You can go look for it yourself. Its everywhere but MSM.
Harrison Bergeron said:
I'm concerned with smart people continually falling for Democrat disinformation. We saw it with the Russia Hoax, we saw it with Hunter's laptop, we saw it with covid, we saw it with January 6. How many times will they lie to you before you start to think maybe they're lying?
sombear said:I should have been more clear in my initial response. Again, I was not being facetious. I want to stop it all - abuse, waste, overspend, fraud, whatever it is.Married A Horn said:sombear said:No. Fraud has an actual legal definition. Look, again, I support what Trump/Musk are doing. It's long overdue. I might take issue with certain aspects, and in a perfect world, I'd prefer instead of Musk, Trump could just find competent managers of all these agencies do the same thing. But I'm on board. And, yes, $ for transgender training and plays in Sri Lanka and $ for DEI programs in Africa need to stop immediately and are bizarre. But they are not fraud. I want to see people arrested. It has to be out there.KaiBear said:sombear said:I wasn't being a smart ass. I've seen all kinds of cuts that I support, but I haven't seen any actual fraud.Married A Horn said:
No. You can go look for it yourself. Its everywhere but MSM.
You must have a very narrow approach what constitutes fraud and a very wide attitude of vitally important foreign aid.
Oh okay. I see what you mean. You are going the legal type route. We are on stage 1. They are going out of their way to block the ability to folliw the money trail.
And, the way all these NGOs are set up, idk if you will find technical fraud.
But in the spirit of what fraud is - we already have mountains of evidence of it. I'm more concerned with that part and stopping it.
I don't doubt what you post , but is there a link to these numbers ?Doc Holliday said:I'd argue that they've already found fraud.sombear said:I wasn't being a smart ass. I've seen all kinds of cuts that I support, but I haven't seen any actual fraud.Married A Horn said:
No. You can go look for it yourself. It's everywhere but MSM.
DOGE had found $2.7 trillion in Medicare and Medicaid fraud, and a missing $4.7 trillion in treasury payments
Official DOGE account:KaiBear said:I don't doubt what you post , but is there a link to these numbers ?Doc Holliday said:I'd argue that they've already found fraud.sombear said:I wasn't being a smart ass. I've seen all kinds of cuts that I support, but I haven't seen any actual fraud.Married A Horn said:
No. You can go look for it yourself. It's everywhere but MSM.
DOGE had found $2.7 trillion in Medicare and Medicaid fraud, and a missing $4.7 trillion in treasury payments
The Treasury Access Symbol (TAS) is an identification code linking a Treasury payment to a budget line item (standard financial process).
— Department of Government Efficiency (@DOGE) February 17, 2025
In the Federal Government, the TAS field was optional for ~$4.7 Trillion in payments and was often left blank, making traceability almost…
The irony is how much of that disinformation was funded by USAID.Married A Horn said:Harrison Bergeron said:
I'm concerned with smart people continually falling for Democrat disinformation. We saw it with the Russia Hoax, we saw it with Hunter's laptop, we saw it with covid, we saw it with January 6. How many times will they lie to you before you start to think maybe they're lying?
Large scale public disinformation?
Doc Holliday said:Official DOGE account:KaiBear said:I don't doubt what you post , but is there a link to these numbers ?Doc Holliday said:I'd argue that they've already found fraud.sombear said:I wasn't being a smart ass. I've seen all kinds of cuts that I support, but I haven't seen any actual fraud.Married A Horn said:
No. You can go look for it yourself. It's everywhere but MSM.
DOGE had found $2.7 trillion in Medicare and Medicaid fraud, and a missing $4.7 trillion in treasury paymentsThe Treasury Access Symbol (TAS) is an identification code linking a Treasury payment to a budget line item (standard financial process).
— Department of Government Efficiency (@DOGE) February 17, 2025
In the Federal Government, the TAS field was optional for ~$4.7 Trillion in payments and was often left blank, making traceability almost…
KaiBear said:Doc Holliday said:Official DOGE account:KaiBear said:I don't doubt what you post , but is there a link to these numbers ?Doc Holliday said:I'd argue that they've already found fraud.sombear said:I wasn't being a smart ass. I've seen all kinds of cuts that I support, but I haven't seen any actual fraud.Married A Horn said:
No. You can go look for it yourself. It's everywhere but MSM.
DOGE had found $2.7 trillion in Medicare and Medicaid fraud, and a missing $4.7 trillion in treasury paymentsThe Treasury Access Symbol (TAS) is an identification code linking a Treasury payment to a budget line item (standard financial process).
— Department of Government Efficiency (@DOGE) February 17, 2025
In the Federal Government, the TAS field was optional for ~$4.7 Trillion in payments and was often left blank, making traceability almost…
There has to a rational explanation somewhere.
No one can lose 4.7 trillion dollars.
Not even Biden.
they didnt lose it, they didnt account for itKaiBear said:Doc Holliday said:Official DOGE account:KaiBear said:I don't doubt what you post , but is there a link to these numbers ?Doc Holliday said:I'd argue that they've already found fraud.sombear said:I wasn't being a smart ass. I've seen all kinds of cuts that I support, but I haven't seen any actual fraud.Married A Horn said:
No. You can go look for it yourself. It's everywhere but MSM.
DOGE had found $2.7 trillion in Medicare and Medicaid fraud, and a missing $4.7 trillion in treasury paymentsThe Treasury Access Symbol (TAS) is an identification code linking a Treasury payment to a budget line item (standard financial process).
— Department of Government Efficiency (@DOGE) February 17, 2025
In the Federal Government, the TAS field was optional for ~$4.7 Trillion in payments and was often left blank, making traceability almost…
There has to a rational explanation somewhere.
No one can lose 4.7 trillion dollars.
Not even Biden.
This is my take too. Not lost. It's not as traceable as it should be. It's really quite unforgivable that the people in charge of such things were so careless (or participating in the corruption) of such large sums of money.4th and Inches said:they didnt lose it, they didnt account for itKaiBear said:Doc Holliday said:Official DOGE account:KaiBear said:I don't doubt what you post , but is there a link to these numbers ?Doc Holliday said:I'd argue that they've already found fraud.sombear said:I wasn't being a smart ass. I've seen all kinds of cuts that I support, but I haven't seen any actual fraud.Married A Horn said:
No. You can go look for it yourself. It's everywhere but MSM.
DOGE had found $2.7 trillion in Medicare and Medicaid fraud, and a missing $4.7 trillion in treasury paymentsThe Treasury Access Symbol (TAS) is an identification code linking a Treasury payment to a budget line item (standard financial process).
— Department of Government Efficiency (@DOGE) February 17, 2025
In the Federal Government, the TAS field was optional for ~$4.7 Trillion in payments and was often left blank, making traceability almost…
There has to a rational explanation somewhere.
No one can lose 4.7 trillion dollars.
Not even Biden.
This is the mega version of the small business guy who keeps crappy reciepts for his business.
Some of it was improperly spent for sure but i think some of it is just lazy paperwork
ScottS said:KaiBear said:Doc Holliday said:Official DOGE account:KaiBear said:I don't doubt what you post , but is there a link to these numbers ?Doc Holliday said:I'd argue that they've already found fraud.sombear said:I wasn't being a smart ass. I've seen all kinds of cuts that I support, but I haven't seen any actual fraud.Married A Horn said:
No. You can go look for it yourself. It's everywhere but MSM.
DOGE had found $2.7 trillion in Medicare and Medicaid fraud, and a missing $4.7 trillion in treasury paymentsThe Treasury Access Symbol (TAS) is an identification code linking a Treasury payment to a budget line item (standard financial process).
— Department of Government Efficiency (@DOGE) February 17, 2025
In the Federal Government, the TAS field was optional for ~$4.7 Trillion in payments and was often left blank, making traceability almost…
There has to a rational explanation somewhere.
No one can lose 4.7 trillion dollars.
Not even Biden.
You're thinking fraud?
KaiBear said:ScottS said:KaiBear said:Doc Holliday said:Official DOGE account:KaiBear said:I don't doubt what you post , but is there a link to these numbers ?Doc Holliday said:I'd argue that they've already found fraud.sombear said:I wasn't being a smart ass. I've seen all kinds of cuts that I support, but I haven't seen any actual fraud.Married A Horn said:
No. You can go look for it yourself. It's everywhere but MSM.
DOGE had found $2.7 trillion in Medicare and Medicaid fraud, and a missing $4.7 trillion in treasury paymentsThe Treasury Access Symbol (TAS) is an identification code linking a Treasury payment to a budget line item (standard financial process).
— Department of Government Efficiency (@DOGE) February 17, 2025
In the Federal Government, the TAS field was optional for ~$4.7 Trillion in payments and was often left blank, making traceability almost…
There has to a rational explanation somewhere.
No one can lose 4.7 trillion dollars.
Not even Biden.
You're thinking fraud?
Thinking the vast majority of the money will be eventually accounted for.
ScottS said:KaiBear said:ScottS said:KaiBear said:Doc Holliday said:Official DOGE account:KaiBear said:I don't doubt what you post , but is there a link to these numbers ?Doc Holliday said:I'd argue that they've already found fraud.sombear said:I wasn't being a smart ass. I've seen all kinds of cuts that I support, but I haven't seen any actual fraud.Married A Horn said:
No. You can go look for it yourself. It's everywhere but MSM.
DOGE had found $2.7 trillion in Medicare and Medicaid fraud, and a missing $4.7 trillion in treasury paymentsThe Treasury Access Symbol (TAS) is an identification code linking a Treasury payment to a budget line item (standard financial process).
— Department of Government Efficiency (@DOGE) February 17, 2025
In the Federal Government, the TAS field was optional for ~$4.7 Trillion in payments and was often left blank, making traceability almost…
There has to a rational explanation somewhere.
No one can lose 4.7 trillion dollars.
Not even Biden.
You're thinking fraud?
Thinking the vast majority of the money will be eventually accounted for.
You might be optimistic in your thinking.
Mother Jones lmao...Sam Lowry said:Don't mind me, I'm glad Mother Jones exposed them. I do see a lot of freaking out though...you're not wrong about that.Oldbear83 said:
Cry more, Sam.
It's delightful to see you freak out over criminals being exposed.
Sam Lowry said:Don't mind me, I'm glad Mother Jones exposed them. I do see a lot of freaking out though...you're not wrong about that.Oldbear83 said:
Cry more, Sam.
It's delightful to see you freak out over criminals being exposed.
Married A Horn said:Harrison Bergeron said:
I'm concerned with smart people continually falling for Democrat disinformation. We saw it with the Russia Hoax, we saw it with Hunter's laptop, we saw it with covid, we saw it with January 6. How many times will they lie to you before you start to think maybe they're lying?
Large scale public disinformation?
KaiBear said:Doc Holliday said:Official DOGE account:KaiBear said:I don't doubt what you post , but is there a link to these numbers ?Doc Holliday said:I'd argue that they've already found fraud.sombear said:I wasn't being a smart ass. I've seen all kinds of cuts that I support, but I haven't seen any actual fraud.Married A Horn said:
No. You can go look for it yourself. It's everywhere but MSM.
DOGE had found $2.7 trillion in Medicare and Medicaid fraud, and a missing $4.7 trillion in treasury paymentsThe Treasury Access Symbol (TAS) is an identification code linking a Treasury payment to a budget line item (standard financial process).
— Department of Government Efficiency (@DOGE) February 17, 2025
In the Federal Government, the TAS field was optional for ~$4.7 Trillion in payments and was often left blank, making traceability almost…
There has to a rational explanation somewhere.
No one can lose 4.7 trillion dollars.
Not even Biden.
KaiBear said:ScottS said:KaiBear said:Doc Holliday said:Official DOGE account:KaiBear said:I don't doubt what you post , but is there a link to these numbers ?Doc Holliday said:I'd argue that they've already found fraud.sombear said:I wasn't being a smart ass. I've seen all kinds of cuts that I support, but I haven't seen any actual fraud.Married A Horn said:
No. You can go look for it yourself. It's everywhere but MSM.
DOGE had found $2.7 trillion in Medicare and Medicaid fraud, and a missing $4.7 trillion in treasury paymentsThe Treasury Access Symbol (TAS) is an identification code linking a Treasury payment to a budget line item (standard financial process).
— Department of Government Efficiency (@DOGE) February 17, 2025
In the Federal Government, the TAS field was optional for ~$4.7 Trillion in payments and was often left blank, making traceability almost…
There has to a rational explanation somewhere.
No one can lose 4.7 trillion dollars.
Not even Biden.
You're thinking fraud?
Thinking the vast majority of the money will be eventually accounted for.
New: Elon Musk expresses interest in idea of sending ‘DOGE dividend’ checks to Americans, saying he “will check with the president.” The proposal from @j_fishback involves returning 20% of the cost savings from DOGE efforts back to American tax payers in form of $5,000 rebates.
— Sophia Cai (@SophiaCai99) February 18, 2025
Redbrickbear said:New: Elon Musk expresses interest in idea of sending ‘DOGE dividend’ checks to Americans, saying he “will check with the president.” The proposal from @j_fishback involves returning 20% of the cost savings from DOGE efforts back to American tax payers in form of $5,000 rebates.
— Sophia Cai (@SophiaCai99) February 18, 2025
CorsicanaBear said:
You can start with this.
This is an under-rated post, because it illustrates the crisis.historian said:KaiBear said:Doc Holliday said:Official DOGE account:KaiBear said:I don't doubt what you post , but is there a link to these numbers ?Doc Holliday said:I'd argue that they've already found fraud.sombear said:I wasn't being a smart ass. I've seen all kinds of cuts that I support, but I haven't seen any actual fraud.Married A Horn said:
No. You can go look for it yourself. It's everywhere but MSM.
DOGE had found $2.7 trillion in Medicare and Medicaid fraud, and a missing $4.7 trillion in treasury paymentsThe Treasury Access Symbol (TAS) is an identification code linking a Treasury payment to a budget line item (standard financial process).
— Department of Government Efficiency (@DOGE) February 17, 2025
In the Federal Government, the TAS field was optional for ~$4.7 Trillion in payments and was often left blank, making traceability almost…
There has to a rational explanation somewhere.
No one can lose 4.7 trillion dollars.
Not even Biden.
That's how corrupt our federal govt is: they can lose $4.7 trillion and probably did. That's probably over several years, not only under Biden.
This helps to explain our $36 trillion national debt.
Doc Holliday said:Official DOGE account:KaiBear said:I don't doubt what you post , but is there a link to these numbers ?Doc Holliday said:I'd argue that they've already found fraud.sombear said:I wasn't being a smart ass. I've seen all kinds of cuts that I support, but I haven't seen any actual fraud.Married A Horn said:
No. You can go look for it yourself. It's everywhere but MSM.
DOGE had found $2.7 trillion in Medicare and Medicaid fraud, and a missing $4.7 trillion in treasury paymentsThe Treasury Access Symbol (TAS) is an identification code linking a Treasury payment to a budget line item (standard financial process).
— Department of Government Efficiency (@DOGE) February 17, 2025
In the Federal Government, the TAS field was optional for ~$4.7 Trillion in payments and was often left blank, making traceability almost…
Either way....isn't it odd that no one except for the two men you hate bothered to check ?Mitch Blood Green said:Doc Holliday said:Official DOGE account:KaiBear said:I don't doubt what you post , but is there a link to these numbers ?Doc Holliday said:I'd argue that they've already found fraud.sombear said:I wasn't being a smart ass. I've seen all kinds of cuts that I support, but I haven't seen any actual fraud.Married A Horn said:
No. You can go look for it yourself. It's everywhere but MSM.
DOGE had found $2.7 trillion in Medicare and Medicaid fraud, and a missing $4.7 trillion in treasury paymentsThe Treasury Access Symbol (TAS) is an identification code linking a Treasury payment to a budget line item (standard financial process).
— Department of Government Efficiency (@DOGE) February 17, 2025
In the Federal Government, the TAS field was optional for ~$4.7 Trillion in payments and was often left blank, making traceability almost…
This isn't fraud. This is database design. Someone for some reason decided TAS code shouldn't be mandatory. I don't know the reason why. It's probable that there are multiple search criteria in the database to get the same information.
Oldbear83 said:This is an under-rated post, because it illustrates the crisis.historian said:KaiBear said:Doc Holliday said:Official DOGE account:KaiBear said:I don't doubt what you post , but is there a link to these numbers ?Doc Holliday said:I'd argue that they've already found fraud.sombear said:I wasn't being a smart ass. I've seen all kinds of cuts that I support, but I haven't seen any actual fraud.Married A Horn said:
No. You can go look for it yourself. It's everywhere but MSM.
DOGE had found $2.7 trillion in Medicare and Medicaid fraud, and a missing $4.7 trillion in treasury paymentsThe Treasury Access Symbol (TAS) is an identification code linking a Treasury payment to a budget line item (standard financial process).
— Department of Government Efficiency (@DOGE) February 17, 2025
In the Federal Government, the TAS field was optional for ~$4.7 Trillion in payments and was often left blank, making traceability almost…
There has to a rational explanation somewhere.
No one can lose 4.7 trillion dollars.
Not even Biden.
That's how corrupt our federal govt is: they can lose $4.7 trillion and probably did. That's probably over several years, not only under Biden.
This helps to explain our $36 trillion national debt.
I work as an accountant, specifically in Accounts Receivable, and one thing non-Accounting people just don't grasp is the vital need for solid accounting. That, and the fact that accountants love to figure out where money goes.
The people who steal never realize that they always leave evidence and a good-enough accountant can find the proof.
Also, in my experience anytime a company has a sloppy accounting system, there will be people who notice the mess and decide they can help themselves to free money.
That's why DOGE matters.
First, it's absolutely unacceptable not to have accountability for the federal budget.
Second, if you get smart enough people who care enough, they will find out where everything went, and you can make changes to make government BOTH leaner and more effective.
Third, there are a lot of people who have stolen money, thinking they would never be caught. These people, and it includes people in Congress and many agency executives, are absolutely freaking out. Find these people and squeeze them to expose everyone who has been part of this criminal behavior. From Teapot Dome to ABSCAM we have caught crooks before, there's no reason not to clean house now.
Catch em all, send enough to prison, and every good citizen of our nation will benefit.
No, you just learned about it. Having led many large projects and large conversions, I know there are always give-and-takes that will not make sense in the future or that others would do differently. What the public always sees is the outcome. (Why isn't TAS mandatory?) They don't see the reason. (TAS codes are not available until nine months after the budget is passed.)KaiBear said:Either way....isn't it odd that no one except for the two men you hate bothered to check ?Mitch Blood Green said:Doc Holliday said:Official DOGE account:KaiBear said:I don't doubt what you post , but is there a link to these numbers ?Doc Holliday said:I'd argue that they've already found fraud.sombear said:I wasn't being a smart ass. I've seen all kinds of cuts that I support, but I haven't seen any actual fraud.Married A Horn said:
No. You can go look for it yourself. It's everywhere but MSM.
DOGE had found $2.7 trillion in Medicare and Medicaid fraud, and a missing $4.7 trillion in treasury paymentsThe Treasury Access Symbol (TAS) is an identification code linking a Treasury payment to a budget line item (standard financial process).
— Department of Government Efficiency (@DOGE) February 17, 2025
In the Federal Government, the TAS field was optional for ~$4.7 Trillion in payments and was often left blank, making traceability almost…
This isn't fraud. This is database design. Someone for some reason decided TAS code shouldn't be mandatory. I don't know the reason why. It's probable that there are multiple search criteria in the database to get the same information.
Anyone on SS or putting into SS has been given a SS number. Even if they were born way before SS was enacted.Mitch Blood Green said:Doc Holliday said:KaiBear said:I don't doubt what you post , but is there a link to these numbers ?Doc Holliday said:I'd argue that they've already found fraud.sombear said:I wasn't being a smart ass. I've seen all kinds of cuts that I support, but I haven't seen any actual fraud.Married A Horn said:
No. You can go look for it yourself. It's everywhere but MSM.
DOGE had found $2.7 trillion in Medicare and Medicaid fraud, and a missing $4.7 trillion in treasury payments
That's not fraud or waste. That's either conversion error or legacy systems issues.
SS numbers were first issued in 1936. People born in 1875 did not have numbers. This is data.
Here's a personal example. I don't have a middle name. When I first entered the workplace, I was assigned an C army employer as a work around. These represents the kind of things old hats know that these round DOGEs don't. So, they run around acting like they found Big Foot.
It's like the video of the 17 year olds given a rotary phone and asked to dial. And they have no clue.
The Democrat media.Married A Horn said:Harrison Bergeron said:
I'm concerned with smart people continually falling for Democrat disinformation. We saw it with the Russia Hoax, we saw it with Hunter's laptop, we saw it with covid, we saw it with January 6. How many times will they lie to you before you start to think maybe they're lying?
Large scale public disinformation?
I think deep down they're afraid they're going to have to concede that Trump/MAGA was correct the more that corruption and waste continues to be exposed.Harrison Bergeron said:The Democrat media.Married A Horn said:Harrison Bergeron said:
I'm concerned with smart people continually falling for Democrat disinformation. We saw it with the Russia Hoax, we saw it with Hunter's laptop, we saw it with covid, we saw it with January 6. How many times will they lie to you before you start to think maybe they're lying?
Large scale public disinformation?
The issue is that there is large scale fraud, waste, and abuse in the government, and TDS is causing people to oppose rooting it out.