There's No Way Elon Musk's Job Is Legal

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ScottS
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Married A Horn said:

No. You can go look for it yourself. Its everywhere but MSM.


Let's just say you won't hear about any of this on MSLSD.
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Harrison Bergeron said:

I'm concerned with smart people continually falling for Democrat disinformation. We saw it with the Russia Hoax, we saw it with Hunter's laptop, we saw it with covid, we saw it with January 6. How many times will they lie to you before you start to think maybe they're lying?


Large scale public disinformation?
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sombear said:

Married A Horn said:

sombear said:

KaiBear said:

sombear said:

Married A Horn said:

No. You can go look for it yourself. Its everywhere but MSM.
I wasn't being a smart ass. I've seen all kinds of cuts that I support, but I haven't seen any actual fraud.




You must have a very narrow approach what constitutes fraud and a very wide attitude of vitally important foreign aid.
No. Fraud has an actual legal definition. Look, again, I support what Trump/Musk are doing. It's long overdue. I might take issue with certain aspects, and in a perfect world, I'd prefer instead of Musk, Trump could just find competent managers of all these agencies do the same thing. But I'm on board. And, yes, $ for transgender training and plays in Sri Lanka and $ for DEI programs in Africa need to stop immediately and are bizarre. But they are not fraud. I want to see people arrested. It has to be out there.


Oh okay. I see what you mean. You are going the legal type route. We are on stage 1. They are going out of their way to block the ability to folliw the money trail.

And, the way all these NGOs are set up, idk if you will find technical fraud.

But in the spirit of what fraud is - we already have mountains of evidence of it. I'm more concerned with that part and stopping it.
I should have been more clear in my initial response. Again, I was not being facetious. I want to stop it all - abuse, waste, overspend, fraud, whatever it is.


https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2025/02/stephen-miller-exposes-foreign-fraud-rings-foreign-nationals/

Here is some fraud for you. White House Deputy Chief of Staff, Policy: Stephen Miller interview.
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Doc Holliday said:

sombear said:

Married A Horn said:

No. You can go look for it yourself. It's everywhere but MSM.
I wasn't being a smart ass. I've seen all kinds of cuts that I support, but I haven't seen any actual fraud.
I'd argue that they've already found fraud.

DOGE had found $2.7 trillion in Medicare and Medicaid fraud, and a missing $4.7 trillion in treasury payments
I don't doubt what you post , but is there a link to these numbers ?
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Doc Holliday
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KaiBear said:

Doc Holliday said:

sombear said:

Married A Horn said:

No. You can go look for it yourself. It's everywhere but MSM.
I wasn't being a smart ass. I've seen all kinds of cuts that I support, but I haven't seen any actual fraud.
I'd argue that they've already found fraud.

DOGE had found $2.7 trillion in Medicare and Medicaid fraud, and a missing $4.7 trillion in treasury payments
I don't doubt what you post , but is there a link to these numbers ?
Official DOGE account:
Harrison Bergeron
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Married A Horn said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

I'm concerned with smart people continually falling for Democrat disinformation. We saw it with the Russia Hoax, we saw it with Hunter's laptop, we saw it with covid, we saw it with January 6. How many times will they lie to you before you start to think maybe they're lying?


Large scale public disinformation?
The irony is how much of that disinformation was funded by USAID.
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Doc Holliday said:

KaiBear said:

Doc Holliday said:

sombear said:

Married A Horn said:

No. You can go look for it yourself. It's everywhere but MSM.
I wasn't being a smart ass. I've seen all kinds of cuts that I support, but I haven't seen any actual fraud.
I'd argue that they've already found fraud.

DOGE had found $2.7 trillion in Medicare and Medicaid fraud, and a missing $4.7 trillion in treasury payments
I don't doubt what you post , but is there a link to these numbers ?
Official DOGE account:


There has to a rational explanation somewhere.

No one can lose 4.7 trillion dollars.

Not even Biden.
ScottS
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KaiBear said:

Doc Holliday said:

KaiBear said:

Doc Holliday said:

sombear said:

Married A Horn said:

No. You can go look for it yourself. It's everywhere but MSM.
I wasn't being a smart ass. I've seen all kinds of cuts that I support, but I haven't seen any actual fraud.
I'd argue that they've already found fraud.

DOGE had found $2.7 trillion in Medicare and Medicaid fraud, and a missing $4.7 trillion in treasury payments
I don't doubt what you post , but is there a link to these numbers ?
Official DOGE account:


There has to a rational explanation somewhere.

No one can lose 4.7 trillion dollars.

Not even Biden.

You're thinking fraud?
4th and Inches
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KaiBear said:

Doc Holliday said:

KaiBear said:

Doc Holliday said:

sombear said:

Married A Horn said:

No. You can go look for it yourself. It's everywhere but MSM.
I wasn't being a smart ass. I've seen all kinds of cuts that I support, but I haven't seen any actual fraud.
I'd argue that they've already found fraud.

DOGE had found $2.7 trillion in Medicare and Medicaid fraud, and a missing $4.7 trillion in treasury payments
I don't doubt what you post , but is there a link to these numbers ?
Official DOGE account:


There has to a rational explanation somewhere.

No one can lose 4.7 trillion dollars.

Not even Biden.
they didnt lose it, they didnt account for it

This is the mega version of the small business guy who keeps crappy reciepts for his business.

Some of it was improperly spent for sure but i think some of it is just lazy paperwork
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4th and Inches said:

KaiBear said:

Doc Holliday said:

KaiBear said:

Doc Holliday said:

sombear said:

Married A Horn said:

No. You can go look for it yourself. It's everywhere but MSM.
I wasn't being a smart ass. I've seen all kinds of cuts that I support, but I haven't seen any actual fraud.
I'd argue that they've already found fraud.

DOGE had found $2.7 trillion in Medicare and Medicaid fraud, and a missing $4.7 trillion in treasury payments
I don't doubt what you post , but is there a link to these numbers ?
Official DOGE account:


There has to a rational explanation somewhere.

No one can lose 4.7 trillion dollars.

Not even Biden.
they didnt lose it, they didnt account for it

This is the mega version of the small business guy who keeps crappy reciepts for his business.

Some of it was improperly spent for sure but i think some of it is just lazy paperwork
This is my take too. Not lost. It's not as traceable as it should be. It's really quite unforgivable that the people in charge of such things were so careless (or participating in the corruption) of such large sums of money.
ScottS
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Everyone knows, Hunter has it.
KaiBear
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ScottS said:

KaiBear said:

Doc Holliday said:

KaiBear said:

Doc Holliday said:

sombear said:

Married A Horn said:

No. You can go look for it yourself. It's everywhere but MSM.
I wasn't being a smart ass. I've seen all kinds of cuts that I support, but I haven't seen any actual fraud.
I'd argue that they've already found fraud.

DOGE had found $2.7 trillion in Medicare and Medicaid fraud, and a missing $4.7 trillion in treasury payments
I don't doubt what you post , but is there a link to these numbers ?
Official DOGE account:


There has to a rational explanation somewhere.

No one can lose 4.7 trillion dollars.

Not even Biden.

You're thinking fraud?


Thinking the vast majority of the money will be eventually accounted for.
ScottS
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KaiBear said:

ScottS said:

KaiBear said:

Doc Holliday said:

KaiBear said:

Doc Holliday said:

sombear said:

Married A Horn said:

No. You can go look for it yourself. It's everywhere but MSM.
I wasn't being a smart ass. I've seen all kinds of cuts that I support, but I haven't seen any actual fraud.
I'd argue that they've already found fraud.

DOGE had found $2.7 trillion in Medicare and Medicaid fraud, and a missing $4.7 trillion in treasury payments
I don't doubt what you post , but is there a link to these numbers ?
Official DOGE account:


There has to a rational explanation somewhere.

No one can lose 4.7 trillion dollars.

Not even Biden.

You're thinking fraud?


Thinking the vast majority of the money will be eventually accounted for.

You might be optimistic in your thinking.
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ScottS said:

KaiBear said:

ScottS said:

KaiBear said:

Doc Holliday said:

KaiBear said:

Doc Holliday said:

sombear said:

Married A Horn said:

No. You can go look for it yourself. It's everywhere but MSM.
I wasn't being a smart ass. I've seen all kinds of cuts that I support, but I haven't seen any actual fraud.
I'd argue that they've already found fraud.

DOGE had found $2.7 trillion in Medicare and Medicaid fraud, and a missing $4.7 trillion in treasury payments
I don't doubt what you post , but is there a link to these numbers ?
Official DOGE account:


There has to a rational explanation somewhere.

No one can lose 4.7 trillion dollars.

Not even Biden.

You're thinking fraud?


Thinking the vast majority of the money will be eventually accounted for.

You might be optimistic in your thinking.


LOL

After four years of Biden's insanity; optimism with me has become a rarity.
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Sam Lowry said:

Oldbear83 said:

Cry more, Sam.

It's delightful to see you freak out over criminals being exposed.
Don't mind me, I'm glad Mother Jones exposed them. I do see a lot of freaking out though...you're not wrong about that.
Mother Jones lmao...
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Sam Lowry said:

Oldbear83 said:

Cry more, Sam.

It's delightful to see you freak out over criminals being exposed.
Don't mind me, I'm glad Mother Jones exposed them. I do see a lot of freaking out though...you're not wrong about that.

Mother Jones is another fascist propaganda rag. They haven't exposed anything except their Marxist ideas and that's been known for decades.
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Married A Horn said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

I'm concerned with smart people continually falling for Democrat disinformation. We saw it with the Russia Hoax, we saw it with Hunter's laptop, we saw it with covid, we saw it with January 6. How many times will they lie to you before you start to think maybe they're lying?


Large scale public disinformation?

Yes. The MSM is a propaganda racket for the fascists. They have been using the tactics of Joseph Goebbels for decades and spreading disinformation and outright lies for decades. "Large scale" doesn't begin to cover it: it's on a massive scale. And remember that for much of that time they had a near monopoly on dissemination of information.
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KaiBear said:

Doc Holliday said:

KaiBear said:

Doc Holliday said:

sombear said:

Married A Horn said:

No. You can go look for it yourself. It's everywhere but MSM.
I wasn't being a smart ass. I've seen all kinds of cuts that I support, but I haven't seen any actual fraud.
I'd argue that they've already found fraud.

DOGE had found $2.7 trillion in Medicare and Medicaid fraud, and a missing $4.7 trillion in treasury payments
I don't doubt what you post , but is there a link to these numbers ?
Official DOGE account:


There has to a rational explanation somewhere.

No one can lose 4.7 trillion dollars.

Not even Biden.

That's how corrupt our federal govt is: they can lose $4.7 trillion and probably did. That's probably over several years, not only under Biden.

This helps to explain our $36 trillion national debt.
historian
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Most of it was improperly spent on the kind of stupid nonsense DOGE keeps exposing. Much of it was laundered and ended up in the private accounts of corrupt politicians & bureaucrats. I only hope these crusaders can expose it, the DoJ can prosecute & imprison the criminals, and maybe even reclaim a fixable chunk of what was stolen. Balancing the budget and reducing the national debt then became realistic prospects. Everyone benefits when the government is downsized, waste is eliminated, and the debt is reduced.
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KaiBear said:

ScottS said:

KaiBear said:

Doc Holliday said:

KaiBear said:

Doc Holliday said:

sombear said:

Married A Horn said:

No. You can go look for it yourself. It's everywhere but MSM.
I wasn't being a smart ass. I've seen all kinds of cuts that I support, but I haven't seen any actual fraud.
I'd argue that they've already found fraud.

DOGE had found $2.7 trillion in Medicare and Medicaid fraud, and a missing $4.7 trillion in treasury payments
I don't doubt what you post , but is there a link to these numbers ?
Official DOGE account:


There has to a rational explanation somewhere.

No one can lose 4.7 trillion dollars.

Not even Biden.

You're thinking fraud?


Thinking the vast majority of the money will be eventually accounted for.

Hopefully must if it will. I'm not so optimistic. But if a bunch of it can be accounted for and most of the mechanisms for fraud shut down, those will be enormous accomplishments.
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Great idea. But only after enough waste is eliminated to balance the budget. I would love to get a check but not if it means the govt increasing the debt. And only as a one time thing. After balancing the budget on a regular basis, the focus needs to be on reducing the debt by paying it down. The good news is that this will aid credit markets and stimulate economic growth through sound private investments, creating more jobs & more wealth. It will also make tax cuts more possible eventually.
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CorsicanaBear said:

You can start with this.




That's not fraud or waste. That's either conversion error or legacy systems issues.

SS numbers were first issued in 1936. People born in 1875 did not have numbers. This is data.

Here's a personal example. I don't have a middle name. When I first entered the workplace, I was assigned an C army employer as a work around. These represents the kind of things old hats know that these round DOGEs don't. So, they run around acting like they found Big Foot.


It's like the video of the 17 year olds given a rotary phone and asked to dial. And they have no clue.
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historian said:

KaiBear said:

Doc Holliday said:

KaiBear said:

Doc Holliday said:

sombear said:

Married A Horn said:

No. You can go look for it yourself. It's everywhere but MSM.
I wasn't being a smart ass. I've seen all kinds of cuts that I support, but I haven't seen any actual fraud.
I'd argue that they've already found fraud.

DOGE had found $2.7 trillion in Medicare and Medicaid fraud, and a missing $4.7 trillion in treasury payments
I don't doubt what you post , but is there a link to these numbers ?
Official DOGE account:


There has to a rational explanation somewhere.

No one can lose 4.7 trillion dollars.

Not even Biden.

That's how corrupt our federal govt is: they can lose $4.7 trillion and probably did. That's probably over several years, not only under Biden.

This helps to explain our $36 trillion national debt.
This is an under-rated post, because it illustrates the crisis.

I work as an accountant, specifically in Accounts Receivable, and one thing non-Accounting people just don't grasp is the vital need for solid accounting. That, and the fact that accountants love to figure out where money goes.

The people who steal never realize that they always leave evidence and a good-enough accountant can find the proof.

Also, in my experience anytime a company has a sloppy accounting system, there will be people who notice the mess and decide they can help themselves to free money.

That's why DOGE matters.

First, it's absolutely unacceptable not to have accountability for the federal budget.

Second, if you get smart enough people who care enough, they will find out where everything went, and you can make changes to make government BOTH leaner and more effective.

Third, there are a lot of people who have stolen money, thinking they would never be caught. These people, and it includes people in Congress and many agency executives, are absolutely freaking out. Find these people and squeeze them to expose everyone who has been part of this criminal behavior. From Teapot Dome to ABSCAM we have caught crooks before, there's no reason not to clean house now.

Catch em all, send enough to prison, and every good citizen of our nation will benefit.
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Doc Holliday said:

KaiBear said:

Doc Holliday said:

sombear said:

Married A Horn said:

No. You can go look for it yourself. It's everywhere but MSM.
I wasn't being a smart ass. I've seen all kinds of cuts that I support, but I haven't seen any actual fraud.
I'd argue that they've already found fraud.

DOGE had found $2.7 trillion in Medicare and Medicaid fraud, and a missing $4.7 trillion in treasury payments
I don't doubt what you post , but is there a link to these numbers ?
Official DOGE account:


This isn't fraud. This is database design. Someone for some reason decided TAS code shouldn't be mandatory. I don't know the reason why. It's probable that there are multiple search criteria in the database to get the same information.
Married A Horn
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...which allows for fraud much more easily.
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Mitch Blood Green said:

Doc Holliday said:

KaiBear said:

Doc Holliday said:

sombear said:

Married A Horn said:

No. You can go look for it yourself. It's everywhere but MSM.
I wasn't being a smart ass. I've seen all kinds of cuts that I support, but I haven't seen any actual fraud.
I'd argue that they've already found fraud.

DOGE had found $2.7 trillion in Medicare and Medicaid fraud, and a missing $4.7 trillion in treasury payments
I don't doubt what you post , but is there a link to these numbers ?
Official DOGE account:


This isn't fraud. This is database design. Someone for some reason decided TAS code shouldn't be mandatory. I don't know the reason why. It's probable that there are multiple search criteria in the database to get the same information.
Either way....isn't it odd that no one except for the two men you hate bothered to check ?
historian
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Oldbear83 said:

historian said:

KaiBear said:

Doc Holliday said:

KaiBear said:

Doc Holliday said:

sombear said:

Married A Horn said:

No. You can go look for it yourself. It's everywhere but MSM.
I wasn't being a smart ass. I've seen all kinds of cuts that I support, but I haven't seen any actual fraud.
I'd argue that they've already found fraud.

DOGE had found $2.7 trillion in Medicare and Medicaid fraud, and a missing $4.7 trillion in treasury payments
I don't doubt what you post , but is there a link to these numbers ?
Official DOGE account:


There has to a rational explanation somewhere.

No one can lose 4.7 trillion dollars.

Not even Biden.

That's how corrupt our federal govt is: they can lose $4.7 trillion and probably did. That's probably over several years, not only under Biden.

This helps to explain our $36 trillion national debt.
This is an under-rated post, because it illustrates the crisis.

I work as an accountant, specifically in Accounts Receivable, and one thing non-Accounting people just don't grasp is the vital need for solid accounting. That, and the fact that accountants love to figure out where money goes.

The people who steal never realize that they always leave evidence and a good-enough accountant can find the proof.

Also, in my experience anytime a company has a sloppy accounting system, there will be people who notice the mess and decide they can help themselves to free money.

That's why DOGE matters.

First, it's absolutely unacceptable not to have accountability for the federal budget.

Second, if you get smart enough people who care enough, they will find out where everything went, and you can make changes to make government BOTH leaner and more effective.

Third, there are a lot of people who have stolen money, thinking they would never be caught. These people, and it includes people in Congress and many agency executives, are absolutely freaking out. Find these people and squeeze them to expose everyone who has been part of this criminal behavior. From Teapot Dome to ABSCAM we have caught crooks before, there's no reason not to clean house now.

Catch em all, send enough to prison, and every good citizen of our nation will benefit.

Excellent post! Lock up all the crooks!!
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https://www.newsweek.com/social-security-over-100-payments-elon-musk-claims-2032774
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Living fast or dying slow.
I dont want to live forever.
But I will live while I'm here.
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KaiBear said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

Doc Holliday said:

KaiBear said:

Doc Holliday said:

sombear said:

Married A Horn said:

No. You can go look for it yourself. It's everywhere but MSM.
I wasn't being a smart ass. I've seen all kinds of cuts that I support, but I haven't seen any actual fraud.
I'd argue that they've already found fraud.

DOGE had found $2.7 trillion in Medicare and Medicaid fraud, and a missing $4.7 trillion in treasury payments
I don't doubt what you post , but is there a link to these numbers ?
Official DOGE account:


This isn't fraud. This is database design. Someone for some reason decided TAS code shouldn't be mandatory. I don't know the reason why. It's probable that there are multiple search criteria in the database to get the same information.
Either way....isn't it odd that no one except for the two men you hate bothered to check ?
No, you just learned about it. Having led many large projects and large conversions, I know there are always give-and-takes that will not make sense in the future or that others would do differently. What the public always sees is the outcome. (Why isn't TAS mandatory?) They don't see the reason. (TAS codes are not available until nine months after the budget is passed.)

Again, I don't know the reasons. I've just been involved in the conversations and decision-making.
historian
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No doubt some people over 100 are receiving Social Security payments. If they are still alive, these is their right. And one of the many flaws of the Social Security racket. (Rick Perry was correct in 2012 in calling it a Ponzi scheme).

The problem is those people no longer living who are still receiving checks, more accurately their families are illegally. When my Dad passed one of the first legal issues we dealt with is notifying Social Security & DoD that he had passed. We had to send copies of the death certificate. This is standard procedure and honest people would not have problems with doing the right thing.
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Mitch Blood Green said:

Doc Holliday said:

KaiBear said:

Doc Holliday said:

sombear said:

Married A Horn said:

No. You can go look for it yourself. It's everywhere but MSM.
I wasn't being a smart ass. I've seen all kinds of cuts that I support, but I haven't seen any actual fraud.
I'd argue that they've already found fraud.

DOGE had found $2.7 trillion in Medicare and Medicaid fraud, and a missing $4.7 trillion in treasury payments
I don't doubt what you post , but is there a link to these numbers ?



That's not fraud or waste. That's either conversion error or legacy systems issues.

SS numbers were first issued in 1936. People born in 1875 did not have numbers. This is data.

Here's a personal example. I don't have a middle name. When I first entered the workplace, I was assigned an C army employer as a work around. These represents the kind of things old hats know that these round DOGEs don't. So, they run around acting like they found Big Foot.


It's like the video of the 17 year olds given a rotary phone and asked to dial. And they have no clue.
Anyone on SS or putting into SS has been given a SS number. Even if they were born way before SS was enacted.
Harrison Bergeron
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Married A Horn said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

I'm concerned with smart people continually falling for Democrat disinformation. We saw it with the Russia Hoax, we saw it with Hunter's laptop, we saw it with covid, we saw it with January 6. How many times will they lie to you before you start to think maybe they're lying?


Large scale public disinformation?
The Democrat media.

The issue is that there is large scale fraud, waste, and abuse in the government, and TDS is causing people to oppose rooting it out.
Doc Holliday
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Harrison Bergeron said:

Married A Horn said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

I'm concerned with smart people continually falling for Democrat disinformation. We saw it with the Russia Hoax, we saw it with Hunter's laptop, we saw it with covid, we saw it with January 6. How many times will they lie to you before you start to think maybe they're lying?


Large scale public disinformation?
The Democrat media.

The issue is that there is large scale fraud, waste, and abuse in the government, and TDS is causing people to oppose rooting it out.
I think deep down they're afraid they're going to have to concede that Trump/MAGA was correct the more that corruption and waste continues to be exposed.
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