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Credit Card Update!

After 13 weeks, the program to audit unused/unneeded credit cards across 32 agencies has resulted in ~523k de-activated cards.

As a reminder, at the start of the audit, there were ~4.6M active cards/accounts - we are now expanding the program to more… pic.twitter.com/pawuksvRgP

— Department of Government Efficiency (@DOGE) May 30, 2025

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The cards were unused. We are not talking unauthorized charges or write offs that the US Treasury had to make. Where are the savings? Are there fees? If so, how much?

How are Govt employees going to get reimbursed for expenditures that they do as part of their job? Ever try to get reimbursed by the Fed?? This just created a mess.

FLBear5630 said:

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Credit Card Update!

After 13 weeks, the program to audit unused/unneeded credit cards across 32 agencies has resulted in ~523k de-activated cards.

As a reminder, at the start of the audit, there were ~4.6M active cards/accounts - we are now expanding the program to more… pic.twitter.com/pawuksvRgP

— Department of Government Efficiency (@DOGE) May 30, 2025

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The cards were unused. We are not talking unauthorized charges or write offs that the US Treasury had to make. Where are the savings? Are there fees? If so, how much?

How are Govt employees going to get reimbursed for expenditures that they do as part of their job? Ever try to get reimbursed by the Fed?? This just created a mess.

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There's obviously still 4.3 million cards/accounts. Doesn't sound like reimbursements will be a problem. Sounds like accounts were not monitored well to end unneeded accounts - a sign that the actual oversight might have been inadequate.

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Assassin said:

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Credit Card Update!

After 13 weeks, the program to audit unused/unneeded credit cards across 32 agencies has resulted in ~523k de-activated cards.

As a reminder, at the start of the audit, there were ~4.6M active cards/accounts - we are now expanding the program to more… pic.twitter.com/pawuksvRgP

— Department of Government Efficiency (@DOGE) May 30, 2025

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The cards were unused. We are not talking unauthorized charges or write offs that the US Treasury had to make. Where are the savings? Are there fees? If so, how much?

How are Govt employees going to get reimbursed for expenditures that they do as part of their job? Ever try to get reimbursed by the Fed?? This just created a mess.

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There's obviously still 4.3 million cards/accounts. Doesn't sound like reimbursements will be a problem. Sounds like accounts were not monitored well to end unneeded accounts - a sign that the actual oversight might have been inadequate.

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Were they unneeded or unused?

For example, many people have Corporate or Agency Credit Cards for work related travel. If my company or agency decides that we will not be travelling this year as a cost savings the cards will not be used. They shouldn't be cancelled, next year might be different or something may pop up that requires travel. The cards are neither misused or not monitored.

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Assassin said:

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Credit Card Update!

After 13 weeks, the program to audit unused/unneeded credit cards across 32 agencies has resulted in ~523k de-activated cards.

As a reminder, at the start of the audit, there were ~4.6M active cards/accounts - we are now expanding the program to more… pic.twitter.com/pawuksvRgP

— Department of Government Efficiency (@DOGE) May 30, 2025

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The cards were unused. We are not talking unauthorized charges or write offs that the US Treasury had to make. Where are the savings? Are there fees? If so, how much?

How are Govt employees going to get reimbursed for expenditures that they do as part of their job? Ever try to get reimbursed by the Fed?? This just created a mess.

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There's obviously still 4.3 million cards/accounts. Doesn't sound like reimbursements will be a problem. Sounds like accounts were not monitored well to end unneeded accounts - a sign that the actual oversight might have been inadequate.

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Were they unneeded or unused?

For example, many people have Corporate or Agency Credit Cards for work related travel. If my company or agency decides that we will not be travelling this year as a cost savings the cards will not be used. They shouldn't be cancelled, next year might be different or something may pop up that requires travel. The cards are neither misused or not monitored.

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As neither of us know for sure, I can only say that I'm betting you're not correct here. Dealing with government agencies has never been speedy or pleasant for most of us. They often make mistakes and leave jobs unfinished in my limited experience.

FLBear5630 said:

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Credit Card Update!

After 13 weeks, the program to audit unused/unneeded credit cards across 32 agencies has resulted in ~523k de-activated cards.

As a reminder, at the start of the audit, there were ~4.6M active cards/accounts - we are now expanding the program to more… pic.twitter.com/pawuksvRgP

— Department of Government Efficiency (@DOGE) May 30, 2025

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The cards were unused. We are not talking unauthorized charges or write offs that the US Treasury had to make. Where are the savings? Are there fees? If so, how much?

How are Govt employees going to get reimbursed for expenditures that they do as part of their job? Ever try to get reimbursed by the Fed?? This just created a mess.

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Just for you: https://chatgpt.com/

BREAKING: 6 people including a USDA employee BUSTED in a $66 MILLION food stamp fraud scheme!

Arlasa Davis, a USDA employee responsible for identifying SNAP fraud allegedly SOLD hundreds of EBT numbers enabling over $36 million in fraudulent SNAP redemptions at unauthorized… pic.twitter.com/zqdWp7EdyR

— Libs of TikTok (@libsoftiktok) May 29, 2025

Website project!

The federal government has over 6,500 public-facing websites, many of which are obsolete or unused. For ~10%, there were fewer than 10 views in the past month. Each website costs the taxpayer between $100k and $6M per year.

An initial audit suggests ~20% can…

— Department of Government Efficiency (@DOGE) May 30, 2025

Wow! That is something that stinks just about anyway you look at it.

President Trump presented him with the White House Key, calling it a gift from the nation.

Musk will continue to serve as an adviser to President Trump.

Trump, "was it all bull s h i t?"

https://www.independent.co.uk/politics/trump-musk-doge-cuts-promise-b2761354.html

EatMoreSalmon said:

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Credit Card Update!

After 13 weeks, the program to audit unused/unneeded credit cards across 32 agencies has resulted in ~523k de-activated cards.

As a reminder, at the start of the audit, there were ~4.6M active cards/accounts - we are now expanding the program to more… pic.twitter.com/pawuksvRgP

— Department of Government Efficiency (@DOGE) May 30, 2025

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The cards were unused. We are not talking unauthorized charges or write offs that the US Treasury had to make. Where are the savings? Are there fees? If so, how much?

How are Govt employees going to get reimbursed for expenditures that they do as part of their job? Ever try to get reimbursed by the Fed?? This just created a mess.

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There's obviously still 4.3 million cards/accounts. Doesn't sound like reimbursements will be a problem. Sounds like accounts were not monitored well to end unneeded accounts - a sign that the actual oversight might have been inadequate.

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Were they unneeded or unused?

For example, many people have Corporate or Agency Credit Cards for work related travel. If my company or agency decides that we will not be travelling this year as a cost savings the cards will not be used. They shouldn't be cancelled, next year might be different or something may pop up that requires travel. The cards are neither misused or not monitored.

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As neither of us know for sure, I can only say that I'm betting you're not correct here. Dealing with government agencies has never been speedy or pleasant for most of us. They often make mistakes and leave jobs unfinished in my limited experience.

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It is considered a " best practice" to issue P Cards (the name) to "responsible" parties in a department. The employee has strict preset spending allowing them to get an unplanned item when needed.

This process overcomes the the costly and slow procurement process when all a department needed was "zip ties" or something simple.

Works like a charm in maintenance and IT departments. Does need a constant review process to ensure these cards are closed when a person leaves a department for any reason. It's possible there's a bad process used to close the accounts. (John retired in 2023, his pcard is still open).

That happens often.

On the other side of that, "John left the department in 2023" and his card is being used. This audit misses these people.

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Credit Card Update!

After 13 weeks, the program to audit unused/unneeded credit cards across 32 agencies has resulted in ~523k de-activated cards.

As a reminder, at the start of the audit, there were ~4.6M active cards/accounts - we are now expanding the program to more… pic.twitter.com/pawuksvRgP

— Department of Government Efficiency (@DOGE) May 30, 2025

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The cards were unused. We are not talking unauthorized charges or write offs that the US Treasury had to make. Where are the savings? Are there fees? If so, how much?

How are Govt employees going to get reimbursed for expenditures that they do as part of their job? Ever try to get reimbursed by the Fed?? This just created a mess.

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There's obviously still 4.3 million cards/accounts. Doesn't sound like reimbursements will be a problem. Sounds like accounts were not monitored well to end unneeded accounts - a sign that the actual oversight might have been inadequate.

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Were they unneeded or unused?

For example, many people have Corporate or Agency Credit Cards for work related travel. If my company or agency decides that we will not be travelling this year as a cost savings the cards will not be used. They shouldn't be cancelled, next year might be different or something may pop up that requires travel. The cards are neither misused or not monitored.

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As neither of us know for sure, I can only say that I'm betting you're not correct here. Dealing with government agencies has never been speedy or pleasant for most of us. They often make mistakes and leave jobs unfinished in my limited experience.

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It is considered a " best practice" to issue P Cards (the name) to "responsible" parties in a department. The employee has strict preset spending allowing them to get an unplanned item when needed.

This process overcomes the the costly and slow procurement process when all a department needed was "zip ties" or something simple.

Works like a charm in maintenance and IT departments. Does need a constant review process to ensure these cards are closed when a person leaves a department for any reason. It's possible there's a bad process used to close the accounts. (John retired in 2023, his pcard is still open).

That happens often.

On the other side of that, "John left the department in 2023" and his card is being used. This audit misses these people.

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Thank you. There is abuse, just like there is always election fraud. There will always be people trying to get over. The problem with this fiasco is they are treating it like it is systematic? That most, if not all, of the Federal employees are trying to commit fraud, don't go to work and are part of some "Deep State". That is a Bannon misdirection to get eyes off the other stuff.

If you don't believe me, look at the Budget he submitted. Great savings, huh?


Strangely, the only two that I think are actually acting in the best interest of the Nation and not for personnel gain is Hegswirth (sp) at DOD and Bessant (sp) at Treasury. I really believe as an ex-infantry officer Pete is trying to make things better. Bessant, he knows what he is doing and really believes in it. I can't figure if his loyalties are to the US, Trump or Soros...

(Bloomberg) -- Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth told Congress Tuesday that the Pentagon’s collaboration with Elon Musk’s Department of Government Efficiency found $6 billion in cuts so far from the agency’s budget of nearly $1 trillion.

— Josh Wingrove (@josh_wingrove) June 10, 2025

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(Bloomberg) -- Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth told Congress Tuesday that the Pentagon’s collaboration with Elon Musk’s Department of Government Efficiency found $6 billion in cuts so far from the agency’s budget of nearly $1 trillion.

— Josh Wingrove (@josh_wingrove) June 10, 2025

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I am gaining respect of Hegswith (ssp).

The National Weather Service @NWS is collaborating with DOGE to modernize its nationwide Weather Radio system. Of their 1033 transmitter sites, ~380 still rely on copper lines from the 1960s.

These lines are expensive ($17M/yr) and faulty. For example, Los Angeles’ T1 line goes… pic.twitter.com/pEkFmqb1g1

— Department of Government Efficiency (@DOGE) June 11, 2025

HOLY SH*T 🚨 Rep Thomas Massie voted ‘NO’ on $9,400,000,000.00 of D.O.G.E. cuts today…

Umm wait what ? pic.twitter.com/Zt48vVcXGN

— MAGA Voice (@MAGAVoice) June 11, 2025

My guess is that he didn't like the increase in the debt ceiling of the fact that the deficit is still outrageous.

People ask me how Congress steals from us…

Sen Whitehouse is one of the loudest critics of DOGE & Elon…

He got caught voting on bills that ended up funneling millions to his wife’s consulting firm.

She was paid at least $2.7 million of TAXPAYER money.

This is just one way. pic.twitter.com/O2jKqT4kBd

— C3 (@C_3C_3) June 19, 2025

I honestly believe that many if not most govt programs have plenty of graft, kickbacks, or other forms of corruption stealing money from taxpayers. How do congressmen always seem to leave office as millionaires?

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I honestly believe that many if not most govt programs have plenty of graft, kickbacks, or other forms of corruption stealing money from taxpayers. How do congressmen always seem to leave office as millionaires?

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You do not understand how Federal contracts work if you think that Congressmen are able to get paid off of them, a polite way of saying kick back. If there is an illegal kickback, it WILL NOT be in GAO, MBO or any other Agency to find. The worst you will find on contracts are wage rate classifications and hours. Everything else is based off audited rates. Expenses would be difficult to get through. I am not sure where you are seeing the potential waste. The items you talk about are illegal and if they happen, they are not in the paper trail.

Now, should a project be procured? Should we do a particular project? That is a political decision, not a graft, fraud or "kick back" situation. Can a new Administration cancel? Sure, Administrations change direction all the time.

What Musk and his boys have found are projects that they don't agree with doing or projects that they think are too expensive. So, far none of what you describe has come up.

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I honestly believe that many if not most govt programs have plenty of graft, kickbacks, or other forms of corruption stealing money from taxpayers. How do congressmen always seem to leave office as millionaires?

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Agreed

Too many mediocrities who have failed at every thing else; magically becoming multi millionaires once they are in congress.

And this applies to members of both parties.

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I honestly believe that many if not most govt programs have plenty of graft, kickbacks, or other forms of corruption stealing money from taxpayers. How do congressmen always seem to leave office as millionaires?

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Agreed

Too many mediocrities who have failed at every thing else; magically becoming multi millionaires once they are in congress.

And this applies to members of both parties.

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I agree on Congress and millionaires. I think you guys are looking in the wrong place, there really is no way to do what he describes in the Federal contracting world, every dollar has a paper trail. To do it off the Federal budget would be asinine.

What I believe is happening is probably insider trading. They are giving stock tips or cleaner a name of an investment guy.

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I honestly believe that many if not most govt programs have plenty of graft, kickbacks, or other forms of corruption stealing money from taxpayers. How do congressmen always seem to leave office as millionaires?

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Agreed

Too many mediocrities who have failed at every thing else; magically becoming multi millionaires once they are in congress.

And this applies to members of both parties.

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I agree on Congress and millionaires. I think you guys are looking in the wrong place, there really is no way to do what he describes in the Federal contracting world, every dollar has a paper trail. To do it off the Federal budget would be asinine.

What I believe is happening is probably insider trading. They are giving stock tips or cleaner a name of an investment guy.

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Insider stock trading is definitely part of it.

However it's not the only problem.

Have you not paid attention to the details about USAID fraud schemes? The govt finances an NGO or research grant for something stupid (or even something that might sound reasonable) the NGO then donates money to the re-election campaigns PAC's of key Congress critters. That's just one way it could happen. There are countless others and DOGE has uncovered many of them.

For our purposes now, it doesn't matter how they do it. What matters is the fact that they are stealing from us to the tune of a $37 trillion national debt. It's been going on for decades. The bigger the govt gets the easier it is for the swamp to do this. That is reason enough to reduce the federal govt to the bare essentials.

Yes, the debt is now over $37 trillion. Absolutely insane.

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Have you not paid attention to the details about USAID fraud schemes? The govt finances an NGO or research grant for something stupid (or even something that might sound reasonable) the NGO then donates money to the re-election campaigns PAC's of key Congress critters. That's just one way it could happen. There are countless others and DOGE has uncovered many of them.

For our purposes now, it doesn't matter how they do it. What matters is the fact that they are stealing from us to the tune of a $37 trillion national debt. It's been going on for decades. The bigger the govt gets the easier it is for the swamp to do this. That is reason enough to reduce the federal govt to the bare essentials.

Yes, the debt is now over $37 trillion. Absolutely insane.

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That is not illegal. Someone approves the NGO. The NGO's are legal and every Administration has their pet items, even Trump. You, me, or even Musk may not agree with the "research project" but someone wanted that information and the information was produced. You are complaining about the budget process, not contract compliance and fraud. It matters what you are talking about.

Trump and MAGA do this all the time. You talk in generalities, put accusations and then say "see"... When what you are talking about has nothing to do with what you are trying to solve or worst yet just wrong. You are missing the problem for the headlines. It is a budgeting issue, all the things you are complaining about were approved within the rules and the law. There has been almost no cases of illegal activity. You have to cut off the budgeting, not go after the fact looking at contract management.

It was the same for the 2020 election. Trump and MAGA looked at the wrong thing. Trump was obsessed with the word "fraud", plays well in tweets I guess. 2020 was not a fraud issue, it was a procedural issue. Barr pointed this out, but no one listened because he was labeled a "NeoCon". The States did not follow their own rules and allowed more people to vote in different ways. All the stuff they did was approved, but the State's should not have been able to approve it. That is different than fraud. Same with DOGE, budgeting is different the contract management. The worse they have found is some people not filling the form out completely, which happens every day in all organizations. You are not sending people to jail for not filling in a number...


Non-Governmental Organizations (NGOs) in the United States - United States Department of State

Not sure if DOGE found this or not, but Noem just canceled ANOTHER Biden era financial fiasco. Will save us $1.5m

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/noem-uncovers-kills-multimillion-dollar-biden-era-dei-lgbtq-program?

DOGE has not yet begun to fight.

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DOGE has not yet begun to fight.

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Gunfight at the OK Corral coming up!

EXCLUSIVE: Trump admin takes action after massive fraud uncovered at agency Dems tried to protect from DOGE

The Democrats are the guy with the button trying to decide from day to day if DOGE eviscerated the federal government or was completely Ineffective. Feels like they pick an opposing narrative depending on what they're arguing.

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— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) June 26, 2025

Contracts Update!

Over the last 7 days, agencies have terminated 312 wasteful contracts with a ceiling value of $2.8B and savings of $470M, including a DoD $286k professional and management development contract for an “entrepreneurship course at Harvard University”, and a $485k… pic.twitter.com/iHwMhZgyzY

— Department of Government Efficiency (@DOGE) June 26, 2025

Unused phone line update!@SBAgov has continued its phone audit and has now saved ~$2.84M/year in unnecessary spend.

This includes:
* Traditional Landlines: 96% (661 of 686) terminated, saving ~$650k/year
* Mobile Phone: 55% (2,940 of 5,340) deactivated, saving ~$1.7M/year
*… https://t.co/DFnuqLHs4B

— Department of Government Efficiency (@DOGE) June 27, 2025

Contracts Update!

Over the last 4 days, agencies terminated 256 wasteful contracts with a ceiling value of $14.3B and savings of $11.5B, including an $850k USAID professional services contract for a “resilience advisor” in Somalia, and a $198k GSA consulting contract for… pic.twitter.com/ufpzwFsxCl

— Department of Government Efficiency (@DOGE) July 2, 2025