One of the personal highlights of my career was bringing the French Film Gardé a Vue (Under Suspicion) to life with the incredibly gifted Gene Hackman. And of course... Unforgiven. Rest in peace, my friend. pic.twitter.com/Rw6DTwScZn

— Morgan Freeman (@morgan_freeman) February 27, 2025

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boognish_bear said:

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He was so good in so many different roles. I had heard he was staying very active riding his bike daily in Santa Fe.

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Not sure if true or apocryphal, but I heard he retired after Mooseport because he was so embarrassed.

He definitely was in my top five actors.

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I've seen several things today that he retired due to health/stress of the job was too much for his health.

Sad news. Such a strange story as each new detail comes out.

I really liked his movies. Well most of them as I will admit I have not seen many of his older ones.

One would think if that a gun was involved they would announce it. That the dog died as well is curious.

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One would think if that a gun was involved they would announce it. That the dog died as well is curious.

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There were two other dogs that were just fine, one inside, one out. They said that there might have been a doggie door. There wasn't any dog poop for the German Shepard that was in the crate, so he must have died abruptly. And the front door was unlocked. If they died of carbon monoxide two weeks ago, the fuel source could had gone out by the time the EMTs go there. So they wouldn't have detected any. But it should show up during the autopsy in blood samples

There appears to be an assumption that the dog's death was from the same cause that killed Hackman and his wife, which is not necessarily so. The dog also needs to be autopsied.

I would check the refrigerator and trash for clues as to what the couple may have eaten for their last meal. For instance, if they consumed improperly prepared fugu (puffer fish, a Japanese delicacy) death would have occurred within hours but not necessarily at the same time.

As for the door being open...it may have been a nice day outside and they left the door open for some fresh air and to let the other dogs could come and go.

All of that is conjecture on my part and is not an informed, professional opinion.

And from the California nutcase (we disowned him in hist native Texas...)

Gene Hackman has one of the biggest royalty streams in Hollywood. I suspect murder!

— Randy Quaid (@RandyRRQuaid) February 27, 2025

The plot thickens..

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Actor Gene Hackman, 95, and his wife, Betsy Arakawa, 65, both tested negative for carbon monoxide, authorities revealed Friday, amid an investigation after they were mysteriously found dead alongside one of their dogs at their home in Santa Fe, New Mexico.

Santa Fe County Sheriff's Office Adan Mendoza said he believes that carbon monoxide is ruled out as a possible cause of death.

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The plot thickens..

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Actor Gene Hackman, 95, and his wife, Betsy Arakawa, 65, both tested negative for carbon monoxide, authorities revealed Friday, amid an investigation after they were mysteriously found dead alongside one of their dogs at their home in Santa Fe, New Mexico.

Santa Fe County Sheriff's Office Adan Mendoza said he believes that carbon monoxide is ruled out as a possible cause of death.

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I dont think they can rule carbon monoxide out until we see the autopsy, can they?

Gene Hackman Likely Died on Feb. 17, Sheriff Says
The Santa Fe County sheriff said the actor's pacemaker was inspected and last showed activity nine days before his body was found.

A law enforcement affidavit released on Thursday said that after the bodies were discovered, testing by the local Fire Department had determined that there were no signs of a possible carbon monoxide or gas leak.

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A law enforcement affidavit released on Thursday said that after the bodies were discovered, testing by the local Fire Department had determined that there were no signs of a possible carbon monoxide or gas leak.

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That we know. However what we dont know is whatever fuel carbon monoxide MIGHT have come from, had expired. Thus they wouldn't have detected it 9 days later

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Osodecentx said:

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A law enforcement affidavit released on Thursday said that after the bodies were discovered, testing by the local Fire Department had determined that there were no signs of a possible carbon monoxide or gas leak.

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That we know. However what we dont know is whatever fuel carbon monoxide MIGHT have come from, had expired. Thus they wouldn't have detected it 9 days later

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Would the autopsy disclose carbon monoxide 9 days later?

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Osodecentx said:

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A law enforcement affidavit released on Thursday said that after the bodies were discovered, testing by the local Fire Department had determined that there were no signs of a possible carbon monoxide or gas leak.

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That we know. However what we dont know is whatever fuel carbon monoxide MIGHT have come from, had expired. Thus they wouldn't have detected it 9 days later

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Would the autopsy disclose carbon monoxide 9 days later?

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According to what I have heard, it will still be in the blood. Once the heart stops pumping, it cant get dispersed or something like that. But I am not a doctor

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Assassin said:

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Osodecentx said:

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A law enforcement affidavit released on Thursday said that after the bodies were discovered, testing by the local Fire Department had determined that there were no signs of a possible carbon monoxide or gas leak.

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That we know. However what we dont know is whatever fuel carbon monoxide MIGHT have come from, had expired. Thus they wouldn't have detected it 9 days later

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Would the autopsy disclose carbon monoxide 9 days later?

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According to what I have heard, it will still be in the blood. Once the heart stops pumping, it cant get dispersed or something like that. But I am not a doctor

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I sure don't know, but this from WaPo

A forensic pathologist has ruled out carbon monoxide poisoning as the cause of the couple's deaths, Mendoza said, but neither the cause nor manner has been determined.

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Osodecentx said:

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A law enforcement affidavit released on Thursday said that after the bodies were discovered, testing by the local Fire Department had determined that there were no signs of a possible carbon monoxide or gas leak.

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That we know. However what we dont know is whatever fuel carbon monoxide MIGHT have come from, had expired. Thus they wouldn't have detected it 9 days later

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Would the autopsy disclose carbon monoxide 9 days later?

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According to what I have heard, it will still be in the blood. Once the heart stops pumping, it cant get dispersed or something like that. But I am not a doctor

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I sure don't know, but this from WaPo

A forensic pathologist has ruled out carbon monoxide poisoning as the cause of the couple's deaths, Mendoza said, but neither the cause nor manner has been determined.

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"Initial findings noted no external trauma to either individual," Sheriff Adan Mendoza said in a statement, adding that carbon monoxide and toxicology tests were requested for both individuals.

Mendoza added: "There were no apparent signs of foul play."

However, he stressed, "The manner and cause of death has not been determined. The official results of the autopsy and toxicology reports are pending. This remains an open investigation."

Meanwhile, CNN affiliate KOAT reports foul play has not been ruled out, adding final autopsy results and toxicology reports will hold the answer. Citing the search warrant, KOAT reports deputies believe, based on evidence and experience, the couple suddenly fell.

"The autopsy is going to be key, and the toxicology," Mendoza said during a Thursday news conference.

Results "generally take anywhere from 4-6 weeks to generate," Chris Ramirez, spokesperson for the New Mexico medical investigator's office, told CNN.

perhaps fowl play?

ie band of rogue hens going around wreaking havoc and mayhem.

sinister.

- el KKM

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perhaps fowl play?

ie band of rouge hens going around wreaking havoc and mayhem.

sinister.

- el KKM

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Go back a page, I told everybody a day ago it was the cat.

Was the car in the garage without gasoline and the keys in the ignition?

How could they both fall? Weren't they in 2 separate rooms 40 feet apart? Statistically possible. But to both fall and die separately would seem impossible if both not named Gerald Ford per SNL reporters

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Was the car in the garage without gasoline and the keys in the ignition?

How could they both fall? Weren't they in 2 separate rooms 40 feet apart? Statistically possible. But to both fall and die separately would seem impossible if both not named Gerald Ford per SNL reporters

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He fell and was injured. She gave him enough pills to end it, then took enough herself and gave some to the dog. That's my guess.

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Was the car in the garage without gasoline and the keys in the ignition?

How could they both fall? Weren't they in 2 separate rooms 40 feet apart? Statistically possible. But to both fall and die separately would seem impossible if both not named Gerald Ford per SNL reporters

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He fell and was injured. She gave him enough pills to end it, then took enough herself and gave some to the dog. That's my guess.

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And no letter and he has kids? Seems very odd especially given how emotionally impacted he was in his dad walking out in his mom as a kid.

But he was 95 so who knows how lucid he was.

We'll get a similar Clint Eastwood story some day

"We'll get a similar Clint Eastwood story some day"

Actually, I half-expect to read something like this:

Police Baffled by Death ... of Death

Authorities were stunned by the discovery of the corpse of one Mortis Finite, aka "Death", in Carmel California.

Witnesses mentioned an altercation between Finite and a man described as a "tough-looking centenarian", although no physical violence was witnessed.

Oldbear83 said:

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"We'll get a similar Clint Eastwood story some day"

Actually, I half-expect to read something like this:

Police Baffled by Death ... of Death

Authorities were stunned by the discovery of the corpse of one Mortis Finite, aka "Death", in Carmel California.

Witnesses mentioned an altercation between Finite and a man described as a "tough-looking centenarian", although no physical violence was witnessed.

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Was his twin brother Rigor killed too?

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Oldbear83 said:

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"We'll get a similar Clint Eastwood story some day"

Actually, I half-expect to read something like this:

Police Baffled by Death ... of Death

Authorities were stunned by the discovery of the corpse of one Mortis Finite, aka "Death", in Carmel California.

Witnesses mentioned an altercation between Finite and a man described as a "tough-looking centenarian", although no physical violence was witnessed.

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Was his twin brother Rigor killed too?

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No, but he showed up later.

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Oldbear83 said:

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"We'll get a similar Clint Eastwood story some day"

Actually, I half-expect to read something like this:

Police Baffled by Death ... of Death

Authorities were stunned by the discovery of the corpse of one Mortis Finite, aka "Death", in Carmel California.

Witnesses mentioned an altercation between Finite and a man described as a "tough-looking centenarian", although no physical violence was witnessed.

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Was his twin brother Rigor killed too?

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No, but he showed up later.

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A couple of real stiffs...

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Assassin said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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"We'll get a similar Clint Eastwood story some day"

Actually, I half-expect to read something like this:

Police Baffled by Death ... of Death

Authorities were stunned by the discovery of the corpse of one Mortis Finite, aka "Death", in Carmel California.

Witnesses mentioned an altercation between Finite and a man described as a "tough-looking centenarian", although no physical violence was witnessed.

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Was his twin brother Rigor killed too?

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No, but he showed up later.

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A couple of real stiffs...

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BY the way, username checks out.

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Oldbear83 said:

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Assassin said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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"We'll get a similar Clint Eastwood story some day"

Actually, I half-expect to read something like this:

Police Baffled by Death ... of Death

Authorities were stunned by the discovery of the corpse of one Mortis Finite, aka "Death", in Carmel California.

Witnesses mentioned an altercation between Finite and a man described as a "tough-looking centenarian", although no physical violence was witnessed.

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Was his twin brother Rigor killed too?

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No, but he showed up later.

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A couple of real stiffs...

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BY the way, username checks out.

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Wack-a-doodle!

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Fre3dombear said:

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Was the car in the garage without gasoline and the keys in the ignition?

How could they both fall? Weren't they in 2 separate rooms 40 feet apart? Statistically possible. But to both fall and die separately would seem impossible if both not named Gerald Ford per SNL reporters

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He fell and was injured. She gave him enough pills to end it, then took enough herself and gave some to the dog. That's my guess.

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I think this is going to be it, especially with pills found all over the counter near her body. Sounds like a murder suicide, or just a double suicide. An overdose.

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OsoCoreyell said:

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Fre3dombear said:

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Was the car in the garage without gasoline and the keys in the ignition?

How could they both fall? Weren't they in 2 separate rooms 40 feet apart? Statistically possible. But to both fall and die separately would seem impossible if both not named Gerald Ford per SNL reporters

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He fell and was injured. She gave him enough pills to end it, then took enough herself and gave some to the dog. That's my guess.

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I think this is going to be it, especially with pills found all over the counter near her body. Sounds like a murder suicide, or just a double suicide. An overdose.

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Maybe she murdered him for cheating on her

Or maybe was some pact like the Trib writer and his wife

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Fre3dombear said:

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Was the car in the garage without gasoline and the keys in the ignition?

How could they both fall? Weren't they in 2 separate rooms 40 feet apart? Statistically possible. But to both fall and die separately would seem impossible if both not named Gerald Ford per SNL reporters

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He fell and was injured. She gave him enough pills to end it, then took enough herself and gave some to the dog. That's my guess.

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I think this is going to be it, especially with pills found all over the counter near her body. Sounds like a murder suicide, or just a double suicide. An overdose.

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Maybe she murdered him for cheating on her

Or maybe was some pact like the Trib writer and his wife

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... or maybe it really was fowl. wearing those little spikes on their feetsies.

all angry and bent on mayhen.

- KKM

{ sipping coffee }

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dude had an incredible track record......

- el KKM

... and I have driven past his home many times.

go bears!

Talks about his dad leaving

https://www.facebook.com/share/r/1GwCnD8VK2/?mibextid=UalRPS

https://apnews.com/article/gene-hackman-death-betsy-arakawa-investigation-c94b2cb4d5d7aec9a1a39a81b46dbdf9

Gene Hackman died of heart disease, his wife died of hantavirus about 1 week prior, authorities say

SANTA FE, N.M. (AP) Authorities revealed Friday that actor Gene Hackman died of heart disease and showed severe signs of Alzheimer's disease a full week after his wife died of hantavirus in their home.

Authorities initially ruled out foul play after the bodies were discovered Feb 26. Immediate tests for carbon monoxide poisoning were negative.

Chief Medical Investigator Dr. Heather Jarrell said it was possible that Hackman was not aware his wife was deceased in their home.

"Mr. Hackman showed evidence of advanced Alzheimer's disease," Jarrell said. "He was in a very poor state of health. He had significant heart disease, and I think ultimately that's what resulted in his death."

Hackman, 95, was found in the home's entryway. His death was tied to heart disease with Alzheimer's disease contributing.

Betsy Arakawa, 65, was found with an open prescription bottle and pills scattered on the bathroom counter. Authorities linked her death to hantavirus pulmonary syndrome, a rare but potentially fatal disease spread by infected rodent droppings.

It is typically is reported in spring and summer, often due to exposures that occur when people are near mouse droppings in homes, sheds or poorly ventilated areas.

Jarrell said it was not known how quickly Arakawa died.

Santa Fe County Sheriff Adan Mendoza made the announcement alongside state fire and health officials at a news conference.

Investigators earlier retrieved personal items from the couple's home, including a monthly planner and two cellphones.