April 2nd Reciprocal Tariffs

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Waco1947 said:

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I'm not sure why there is some bounce back happening… But it's a good thing


Deals with countries are starting and the info is getting out. Those in the front of the line (Israel, Vietnam, Japan, maybe UK) will get better deals than those at the end of the line (China).
And Mexico, Vietnam etc will benefit if China does not play ball.

We don't have to "onshore" all the manufacturing to get a benefit. Having certain manufacturing functions moved from China (bad trade partner and geopolitical enemy across an ocean) to Mexico (better trade and geopolitical partner, not across an ocean) is also a win.

Amen

People keep forgetting a big part of this new program is moving our very vulnerable trade lines from Asia (threat of China, Russia, Iran, etc) and moving them to the Western Hemisphere.....where the powerful USA armed forces can protect them better in the event of any major conflict or crisis.

What if in 1941 all our factories and manufacturing had been in Europe or Asia? The USA would have been in a really bad spot during WWII
Agreed. And that doesn't mean we need to move everything to the western hemisphere. E.g. I'm good with t-shirts and tennis shoes being made in Vietnam, but critical goods / components (especially those that take a long time to spin up production) need to be within reach in the event of another major global disruption.

I think the markets have settled into this. They've baked in some disruption but also realize Trump is essentially forcing everyone to the table, and that the stragglers will be few (maybe substantively just China).
Trump Tariffs are poor way to get them. I agree more goods from Mexico and South America because labor is cheaper and supply physically closer to US



1947! Is opposed to something Trump is doing. Shocking. Why are you for them?




To get the negotiations and remove the high tariffs imposed on US companies.
Ain't working
I never thought you were working, Waco.

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Waco1947 said:

ScottS said:

Waco1947 said:

ScottS said:

Waco1947 said:

Robert Wilson said:

Redbrickbear said:

Robert Wilson said:

BearFan33 said:

boognish_bear said:

I'm not sure why there is some bounce back happening… But it's a good thing


Deals with countries are starting and the info is getting out. Those in the front of the line (Israel, Vietnam, Japan, maybe UK) will get better deals than those at the end of the line (China).
And Mexico, Vietnam etc will benefit if China does not play ball.

We don't have to "onshore" all the manufacturing to get a benefit. Having certain manufacturing functions moved from China (bad trade partner and geopolitical enemy across an ocean) to Mexico (better trade and geopolitical partner, not across an ocean) is also a win.

Amen

People keep forgetting a big part of this new program is moving our very vulnerable trade lines from Asia (threat of China, Russia, Iran, etc) and moving them to the Western Hemisphere.....where the powerful USA armed forces can protect them better in the event of any major conflict or crisis.

What if in 1941 all our factories and manufacturing had been in Europe or Asia? The USA would have been in a really bad spot during WWII
Agreed. And that doesn't mean we need to move everything to the western hemisphere. E.g. I'm good with t-shirts and tennis shoes being made in Vietnam, but critical goods / components (especially those that take a long time to spin up production) need to be within reach in the event of another major global disruption.

I think the markets have settled into this. They've baked in some disruption but also realize Trump is essentially forcing everyone to the table, and that the stragglers will be few (maybe substantively just China).
Trump Tariffs are poor way to get them. I agree more goods from Mexico and South America because labor is cheaper and supply physically closer to US



1947! Is opposed to something Trump is doing. Shocking. Why are you for them?




To get the negotiations and remove the high tariffs imposed on US companies.
Ain't working
Are you holding up a little cardboard sign? Perhaps you should find a busier intersection.
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boognish_bear said:




It's difficult for most folks to accept this…….

In all but flagrant military action China has been at war with the United States for at least 15 years.

We either fight back economically or continue to roll over.

And if we choose to roll over folks are going to have far bigger problems than their 401k's.

Trump is doing the exact right things in regards to China.
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boognish_bear said:




More luck for Trump.

Wonder when ( or if ) the American people will ever grasp the difference between Biden/Hariss and Donald Trump in regards to the economic survival of the US standard of living.
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And you know how that worked out for Reagan? Was one of his biggest regrets in office, and pretty much helped kill off American electronics manufacturing.
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Redbrickbear said:


The $14 Trillion on wars number is way overstated. The entire defense budget over the past 30 years was $18 Trillion.

His point on not investing in infrastructure is absolutely correct.
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It will be interesting to see what happens in April

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The primary problem with Canada is the "other regulations" they use to keep foreign products out of their markets.

Free trade with Canada is a farce unless the other regulations [such as their inspection, supply chain, etc. regulations] are also killed. USA dairy could teach a master class on the various underhanded methods that Canada uses to end run USMCA.

The "Canadians are such nice people" talking point is one of today's biggest lies. The average person might be nice. Their politicians make Schumer and Pelosi look honest in comparison.
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Nature abhors a vacuum

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boognish_bear said:

Nature abhors a vacuum


Yep. And China is talking about a large stimulus plan domestically to help weather a transition. Hold on to your butts.
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It's going to get even lower real quick
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It is kinda funny...

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KaiBear said:

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It's going to get even lower real quick
That would be surprising.
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Adriacus Peratuun said:

boognish_bear said:


The primary problem with Canada is the "other regulations" they use to keep foreign products out of their markets.

Free trade with Canada is a farce unless the other regulations [such as their inspection, supply chain, etc. regulations] are also killed. USA dairy could teach a master class on the various underhanded methods that Canada uses to end run USMCA.

The "Canadians are such nice people" talking point is one of today's biggest lies. The average person might be nice. Their politicians make Schumer and Pelosi look honest in comparison.
Please provde specifics
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Assassin said:




People just refuse to get it.

They just don't want the price of their Chinese made t shirts to go up in price two bucks
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Waco1947 said:

ScottS said:

Waco1947 said:

ScottS said:

Waco1947 said:

Robert Wilson said:

Redbrickbear said:

Robert Wilson said:

BearFan33 said:

boognish_bear said:

I'm not sure why there is some bounce back happening… But it's a good thing


Deals with countries are starting and the info is getting out. Those in the front of the line (Israel, Vietnam, Japan, maybe UK) will get better deals than those at the end of the line (China).
And Mexico, Vietnam etc will benefit if China does not play ball.

We don't......






1947! Is opposed to something Trump is doing. Shocking. Why are you for them?




To get the negotiations and remove the high tariffs imposed on US companies.
Ain't working
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I cannot stand that arrogant prig. He is just nauseating.
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