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JUST IN: 🇨🇳🇺🇸 China says they are open to discussions if President Trump shows respect & want US talks to address Taiwan. pic.twitter.com/d4oqqNiDJB

— BRICS News (@BRICSinfo) April 16, 2025

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Well, Trump opened that door. Let's see how fast he sells Taiwan out. The Taiwan situation will be Taiwan's fault by end of the week...

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Thankfully we have a majority of senators that know Taiwan is a lot more important to us than Trump, at least for the next few years

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Not sure where this figure is coming from

JUST IN: 🇺🇸 United States has generated a total of $21 billion in tariff revenue since President Trump took office.

— Watcher.Guru (@WatcherGuru) April 16, 2025

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21 billion is like peeing in the ocean.

It's 1.6% of the deficit and that's only if we didn't incur additional tariffs to offset the imbalance.

JUST IN: 🇺🇸 Over $1.5 trillion wiped out from the US stock market today. pic.twitter.com/wT6XFa4pUc

— Watcher.Guru (@WatcherGuru) April 16, 2025

JUST IN: 🇨🇳🇨🇦 China is importing record amounts of Canadian oil after cutting US purchases by 90% amid trade war. pic.twitter.com/H14ud0ZW7q

— Watcher.Guru (@WatcherGuru) April 16, 2025

Powell: The level of tariff increases announced so far is significantly larger than anticipated, and the same is likely to be true of the economic effects which will include higher inflation and slower growth. pic.twitter.com/YQErrVQGni

— Acyn (@Acyn) April 16, 2025

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Not sure where this figure is coming from

JUST IN: 🇺🇸 United States has generated a total of $21 billion in tariff revenue since President Trump took office.

— Watcher.Guru (@WatcherGuru) April 16, 2025

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21 billion is like peeing in the ocean.

It's 1.6% of the deficit and that's only if we didn't incur additional tariffs to offset the imbalance.

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https://www.cnbc.com/2025/04/16/us-customs-tariffs-revenue-generated-since-april-5.html

running a little light Trumpy Bear

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Not sure where this figure is coming from

JUST IN: 🇺🇸 United States has generated a total of $21 billion in tariff revenue since President Trump took office.

— Watcher.Guru (@WatcherGuru) April 16, 2025

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21 billion is like peeing in the ocean.

It's 1.6% of the deficit and that's only if we didn't incur additional tariffs to offset the imbalance.

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Given that the Trump tariffs have been in effect for less than 10 days, almost all of that goes on Biden's scoresheet, right?

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Not sure where this figure is coming from

JUST IN: 🇺🇸 United States has generated a total of $21 billion in tariff revenue since President Trump took office.

— Watcher.Guru (@WatcherGuru) April 16, 2025

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21 billion is like peeing in the ocean.

It's 1.6% of the deficit and that's only if we didn't incur additional tariffs to offset the imbalance.

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Given that the Trump tariffs have been in effect for less than 10 days, almost all of that goes on Biden's scoresheet, right?

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I have no idea what you mean tbh

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Not sure where this figure is coming from

JUST IN: 🇺🇸 United States has generated a total of $21 billion in tariff revenue since President Trump took office.

— Watcher.Guru (@WatcherGuru) April 16, 2025

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21 billion is like peeing in the ocean.

It's 1.6% of the deficit and that's only if we didn't incur additional tariffs to offset the imbalance.

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Given that the Trump tariffs have been in effect for less than 10 days, almost all of that goes on Biden's scoresheet, right?

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I have no idea what you mean tbh

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This will be chalked up to fixing the mess Biden left him for the next 4 years...

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Not sure where this figure is coming from

JUST IN: 🇺🇸 United States has generated a total of $21 billion in tariff revenue since President Trump took office.

— Watcher.Guru (@WatcherGuru) April 16, 2025

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21 billion is like peeing in the ocean.

It's 1.6% of the deficit and that's only if we didn't incur additional tariffs to offset the imbalance.

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Given that the Trump tariffs have been in effect for less than 10 days, almost all of that goes on Biden's scoresheet, right?

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I have no idea what you mean tbh

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This will be chalked up to fixing the mess Biden left him for the next 4 years...

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When it comes to International Trade, all Trump had to do on Jan.20th and forward was DO NOTHING!!!!

Kinda like on 1/20/21 regarding the Southern border, all Joe Biden had to do was DO NOTHING!!!!

Both men failed miserably. Self-inflicted wounds. I think politicians just like to create problems so they can be praised when they fix the problem they created.

I am sick and tired of voting for a candidate that is the lesser of two evils! Both parties need to get their $ h ! t together.

BREAKING: Fed Chair Powell says car company supply chains will likely be disrupted "for years."

— The Kobeissi Letter (@KobeissiLetter) April 16, 2025

JUST IN: 🇺🇸🇯🇵 President Trump says "big progress" is being made on a trade deal with Japan after meeting with Japanese officials.

— Watcher.Guru (@WatcherGuru) April 16, 2025

Rajan: Some people believe the fed will intervene if the stock market plummets. Are they correct? 

Mr. Powell: I'm going to say no, with an explanation.. pic.twitter.com/wr6LrvUz0j

— Acyn (@Acyn) April 16, 2025

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JUST IN: 🇺🇸🇯🇵 President Trump says "big progress" is being made on a trade deal with Japan after meeting with Japanese officials.

— Watcher.Guru (@WatcherGuru) April 16, 2025

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Well, that is good since they own 1T of our debt. They are our biggest creditor, or they were. Not sure now.

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JUST IN: 🇺🇸🇯🇵 President Trump says "big progress" is being made on a trade deal with Japan after meeting with Japanese officials.

— Watcher.Guru (@WatcherGuru) April 16, 2025

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Well, that is good since they own 1T of our debt. They are our biggest creditor, or they were. Not sure now.

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Japan with 1.1 trillion, China with 816 billion, UK with 679 billion, and of course the mighty Luxembourg with 371 billion...

My hope is that part of the tariff battles is to get some relief from some of those billions

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JUST IN: 🇺🇸🇯🇵 President Trump says "big progress" is being made on a trade deal with Japan after meeting with Japanese officials.

— Watcher.Guru (@WatcherGuru) April 16, 2025

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Well, that is good since they own 1T of our debt. They are our biggest creditor, or they were. Not sure now.

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Irrelevant really. Japan has bigger economic issues than we do.

McCarthy: What Powell said is hurting the economy… The fed chair should be working for America, not scaring America. And this is really out of the playbook of the Democrats. pic.twitter.com/pZFRl7p6Y9

— Acyn (@Acyn) April 16, 2025

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JUST IN: 🇺🇸🇯🇵 President Trump says "big progress" is being made on a trade deal with Japan after meeting with Japanese officials.

— Watcher.Guru (@WatcherGuru) April 16, 2025

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Well, that is good since they own 1T of our debt. They are our biggest creditor, or they were. Not sure now.

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Irrelevant really. Japan has bigger economic issues than we do.

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You are right

They have much bigger problems…and no easy solutions


[The native population of Japan is falling at rate of 100 ppl / hour.]

🚨🇯🇵JAPAN’S BIRTHS PLUNGE TO RECORD LOW

Japan’s baby count crashed to a new low of 720,988 in 2024, down 5% from last year—marking 9 straight years of decline.

With 1.62 million deaths, that’s 2 gone for every newborn, a population shrinking and aging fast.

Ex-PM Fumio… https://t.co/ZOVNzqGAU3 pic.twitter.com/ljOEfd7MP2

— Mario Nawfal (@MarioNawfal) February 27, 2025

Their debt to GDP is 251%. The running joke is that there's going to be one old Japanese lady left but she will own the whole country.

The EU has dismissed U.S. demands on Europe changing its food standards regulations as part of the tariff negotiations.

Sources tell the Irish Times that EU officials believe there would be strong objections from public opinion but also from the European farming lobby to any… pic.twitter.com/w1owjbrc88

— Visegrád 24 (@visegrad24) April 16, 2025

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JUST IN: 🇺🇸🇯🇵 President Trump says "big progress" is being made on a trade deal with Japan after meeting with Japanese officials.

— Watcher.Guru (@WatcherGuru) April 16, 2025

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Well, that is good since they own 1T of our debt. They are our biggest creditor, or they were. Not sure now.

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Irrelevant really. Japan has bigger economic issues than we do.

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They still hold the debt. Their woes, does not lessen our debt load.

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JUST IN: 🇺🇸🇯🇵 President Trump says "big progress" is being made on a trade deal with Japan after meeting with Japanese officials.

— Watcher.Guru (@WatcherGuru) April 16, 2025

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Well, that is good since they own 1T of our debt. They are our biggest creditor, or they were. Not sure now.

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Irrelevant really. Japan has bigger economic issues than we do.

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They still hold the debt. Their woes, does not lessen our debt load.

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That only matters if they call in the debt which they won't do because they can't. Guess which foreign country owns the greatest amount of Japanese debt. Hint it's USofA

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JUST IN: 🇺🇸🇯🇵 President Trump says "big progress" is being made on a trade deal with Japan after meeting with Japanese officials.

— Watcher.Guru (@WatcherGuru) April 16, 2025

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Well, that is good since they own 1T of our debt. They are our biggest creditor, or they were. Not sure now.

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Irrelevant really. Japan has bigger economic issues than we do.

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They still hold the debt. Their woes, does not lessen our debt load.

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That only matters if they call in the debt which they won't do because they can't. Guess which foreign country owns the greatest amount of Japanese debt. Hint it's USofA

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There's more to it than that.

Most of the time, the significance of a security is how fungible liquid it is. If China/Japan etc attacks the viability of US Securities, they hurt their own ability to sell them to someone else, which is what you want to do if you are permanently ending a trade relationship.

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JUST IN: 🇺🇸🇯🇵 President Trump says "big progress" is being made on a trade deal with Japan after meeting with Japanese officials.

— Watcher.Guru (@WatcherGuru) April 16, 2025

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Well, that is good since they own 1T of our debt. They are our biggest creditor, or they were. Not sure now.

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Irrelevant really. Japan has bigger economic issues than we do.

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They still hold the debt. Their woes, does not lessen our debt load.

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That only matters if they call in the debt which they won't do because they can't. Guess which foreign country owns the greatest amount of Japanese debt. Hint it's USofA

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There's more to it than that.

Most of the time, the significance of a security is how fungible it is. If China/Japan etc attacks the viability of US Securities, they hurt their own ability to sell them to someone else, which is what you want to do if you are permanently ending a trade relationship.

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Government debt is, at best, a concept…much more than a reality.

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JUST IN: 🇭🇰🇺🇸 Hong Kong suspends postal service for all goods being sent to the US.

— Watcher.Guru (@WatcherGuru) April 16, 2025

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First real blow of the tariff war waged by the United States against the entire world. Completely suspending postal services is quite a big deal. If China does as well, trade with China will grind to a halt. I wonder how many American businesses would go bankrupt? Trump better stop putting off deals.

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Didn't the tariff war actually start when the other countries first put the tariffs on us? Please advise.

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No. You've been advised.

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Of course it did.

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JUST IN: 🇺🇸🇯🇵 President Trump says "big progress" is being made on a trade deal with Japan after meeting with Japanese officials.

— Watcher.Guru (@WatcherGuru) April 16, 2025

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Well, that is good since they own 1T of our debt. They are our biggest creditor, or they were. Not sure now.

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Irrelevant really. Japan has bigger economic issues than we do.

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They still hold the debt. Their woes, does not lessen our debt load.

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That only matters if they call in the debt which they won't do because they can't. Guess which foreign country owns the greatest amount of Japanese debt. Hint it's USofA

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There's more to it than that.

Most of the time, the significance of a security is how fungible it is. If China/Japan etc attacks the viability of US Securities, they hurt their own ability to sell them to someone else, which is what you want to do if you are permanently ending a trade relationship.

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I think you mean liquidity not fungibility.

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JUST IN: 🇺🇸🇯🇵 President Trump says "big progress" is being made on a trade deal with Japan after meeting with Japanese officials.

— Watcher.Guru (@WatcherGuru) April 16, 2025

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Well, that is good since they own 1T of our debt. They are our biggest creditor, or they were. Not sure now.

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Irrelevant really. Japan has bigger economic issues than we do.

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They still hold the debt. Their woes, does not lessen our debt load.

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That only matters if they call in the debt which they won't do because they can't. Guess which foreign country owns the greatest amount of Japanese debt. Hint it's USofA

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There's more to it than that.

Most of the time, the significance of a security is how fungible it is. If China/Japan etc attacks the viability of US Securities, they hurt their own ability to sell them to someone else, which is what you want to do if you are permanently ending a trade relationship.

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I think you mean liquidity not fungibility.

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True, it's been a long day, ironically orienting our new tax manager where I work.

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McCarthy: What Powell said is hurting the economy… The fed chair should be working for America, not scaring America. And this is really out of the playbook of the Democrats. pic.twitter.com/pZFRl7p6Y9

— Acyn (@Acyn) April 16, 2025

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What the bozo means is she wants J Powell to be yet another government mouthpiece for Trump. I'm sorry but at some point I've stopped disagreeing with the fascist and dictator comments. Trump is sacking people who don't fight hard enough for his party line.

And all you have to do is read this forum to know there will be a serious play for a 3rd term.

We elected Trump because Kamela was awful, but somehow he is now gambling with the economic future of the entire country. How did we get here?

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JUST IN: 🇭🇰🇺🇸 Hong Kong suspends postal service for all goods being sent to the US.

— Watcher.Guru (@WatcherGuru) April 16, 2025

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First real blow of the tariff war waged by the United States against the entire world. Completely suspending postal services is quite a big deal. If China does as well, trade with China will grind to a halt. I wonder how many American businesses would go bankrupt? Trump better stop putting off deals.

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Didn't the tariff war actually start when the other countries first put the tariffs on us? Please advise.

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No. You've been advised.

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Of course it did.

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You fail to understand many things. Including the fact that many of these countries tariff at a lower rate than we tax their goods.

If you stop looking at tariff only rates and calculate, including tariff, federal duty, and state sales tax, what the consumer pays on top of the actual cost, we are near equals with many countries we started this tariff war with. In many cases we tax them more than they tax us. All this before the trade war. And that's just 1 aspect of this.

JUST IN: 🇨🇳 China's GDP grew 5.4% in Q1 2025, exceeding expectations. pic.twitter.com/VoNgvacH5l

— BRICS News (@BRICSinfo) April 16, 2025

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JUST IN: 🇺🇸🇯🇵 President Trump says "big progress" is being made on a trade deal with Japan after meeting with Japanese officials.

— Watcher.Guru (@WatcherGuru) April 16, 2025

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Well, that is good since they own 1T of our debt. They are our biggest creditor, or they were. Not sure now.

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Irrelevant really. Japan has bigger economic issues than we do.

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They still hold the debt. Their woes, does not lessen our debt load.

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That only matters if they call in the debt which they won't do because they can't. Guess which foreign country owns the greatest amount of Japanese debt. Hint it's USofA

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There's more to it than that.

Most of the time, the significance of a security is how fungible it is. If China/Japan etc attacks the viability of US Securities, they hurt their own ability to sell them to someone else, which is what you want to do if you are permanently ending a trade relationship.

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Government debt is, at best, a concept…much more than a reality. Say more, please

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JUST IN: 🇺🇸 President Trump says "USA is getting RICH ON TARIFFS."

— Watcher.Guru (@WatcherGuru) April 17, 2025

boognish_bear said:

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JUST IN: 🇺🇸 President Trump says "USA is getting RICH ON TARIFFS."

— Watcher.Guru (@WatcherGuru) April 17, 2025

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Get rich by this simple trick of raising taxes