I voted for Trump but I don't think many of his supporters would go for a 3rd term. That would open up a can of worms nobody wants. It allows someone to start messing with elections and become a de facto dictator. Neither side desires that.

Just drain the swamp and put us back on level footing against the rest of the world. Deport criminals. Let DOGE clean out a bunch of waste and get dudes out of women's sports. Make life difficult for other dictators around the world. Fix healthcare costs if you can. Then move on.

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I voted for Trump but I don't think many of his supporters would go for a 3rd term. That would open up a can of worms nobody wants. It allows someone to start messing with elections and become a de facto dictator. Neither side desires that.

Just drain the swamp and put us back on level footing against the rest of the world. Deport criminals. Let DOGE clean out a bunch of waste and get dudes out of women's sports. Make life difficult for other dictators around the world. Fix healthcare costs if you can. Then move on.

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One would hope.
Although I fear a third term or more of this dude, I do think he is only partially serious--at this time. He would do it if it becomes for possible. However, as has been stated in the media, is he doing it to distract us, or at least some of us, while he and his dudes work on other projects, which significant portions of the public would work to stop if they were discovered?

As long as he has control of the legislature and the judiciary, he has the power to do a lot of things without much opposition, and a lot of influence in preparing to do some other things behind the scenes in preparation for controlling what is to come. Uh-oh another conspiracy theory...or is it???

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Zero chance Trump is serious about annexing Canada.

Zero chance Harris would have been a better president regardless of the issue.

Retaliatory tariffs are necessary as the United States economy can no longer afford to supplement the economic development of the rest of the world.

If costs temporarily go up on cars, Fruit Loops , or anything else it's a necessary evil.

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Except that the tariffs on vehicles are not retaliatory. They are instead designed to bring manufacturing jobs to the US.

And if they do go through, rest assured the costs will not be "temporary."

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Yes sir I understand your position.

I WANT more good paying manufacturing jobs for Americans.

Not everyone can be a successful attorney or entrepreneur.

And I am willing to pay more for a car to bring this about.

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Nice in theory, but at 4 percent unemployment, the only people in the U.S. that don't have a job don't want a job. The government layoffs at some point very soon will be reflected in the unemployment numbers.

If Trump brings back these tens of millions of manufacturing jobs, who is going to fill those positions? I would think the very first thing a manufacturer would do before spending $billions on new plants would be to make sure there is a viable workforce in place. I think this is a huge concern for most companies.

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All you care about is your pocketbook.

Your early comments were the most accurate and revealing.

Tariffs work.

Historically they always have.

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I care about putting food on the table for my family, paying my bills, and hopefully leaving a little something for my offspring. If that makes me a greedy, bad man, then so be it. Guilty as charged. I have watched more than three years of retirement funds disappear these last eight weeks. Forgive me if I am not giddy and doing a happy dance.

Yeah, I heard one of Trump's cheerleaders talk about how great the tariffs worked right after the Revolutionary War. Back when you had to take a horse & buggy to town. Medical care was just fifty miles away. Filling up the tank was feeding the horse some oats. Cotton was king. Electricity and indoor plumbing was not a thing. Maybe Trump wants to go back there, but hard pass for me.

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You have been one of Trumps cheerleaders for years.

Stock market goes down a little and you panic.

Common behavior.

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I voted for Trump 3 times. Unlike you, I am willing to call him out when I think he is going down the wrong path. The top concern of Americans going into the election was the economy. So far, Trump has failed miserably on the economy. Just calling balls and strikes as I see them.

I can see Trump's next "bold move" to be the firing of FED Chairman Jerome Powell. That way us little people (the middle and lower classes) can borrow money at a lower interest rate to buy more stuff they can't afford. What could possibly go wrong?

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A. Trump ca not fire the Fed Chairman
B. Trump can only extend his term or not when it runs out.
C. You chose early retirement. That is on you …not the president of the United States.
D. You chose to invest in the stock market. That is on you ….not the president of the United States.

We are all responsible for our own monetary decisions.
No one else.

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A. You don't think Trump can fire Powell? Do you think he cares? Just watch him. We'll see what the courts decide.
B. I think Trump should extend Powell's term, but he won't.
C. I have no regrets about retiring early. One of the best decisions I ever made. Unfortunately, I'm not sure if I will die at 64 or 100.
D. Yep, investing heavily in the stock market under a volatile Donald Trump was a piss poor decision on my part. We live and learn.

You said, "We are all responsible for our own monetary decisions." Truer words were never spoken.

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I am sure I am not the only retired American that has been gut-punched by Trump's foreign policy. I would bet there are millions just like me that are less than pleased by Trump's adversarial approach to all of the world. This includes many longstanding allies.

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My advice to you is just relax.

Strongly suspect the economy will be stronger than ever within 18 months.

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I hope you are correct, my friend, and I will owe Donald Trump an apology.

Believe me, I want Donald Trump to be successful. If he wins, we all win.

At some point, I hope the light goes on and Trump realizes we are going to need some allies.

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What's the troll? That he's not joking about pursuing a third term, or that lots of people are for it?

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He's moving the Overton Window, figuring out who supports it, who opposes it, and who's waiting to see where the wind blows. The people who say they enjoy it as a troll are in the third category, and there are more than a few. Most here will support it if and when it happens.

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Zero chance Trump is serious about annexing Canada.

Zero chance Harris would have been a better president regardless of the issue.

Retaliatory tariffs are necessary as the United States economy can no longer afford to supplement the economic development of the rest of the world.

If costs temporarily go up on cars, Fruit Loops , or anything else it's a necessary evil.

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Except that the tariffs on vehicles are not retaliatory. They are instead designed to bring manufacturing jobs to the US.

And if they do go through, rest assured the costs will not be "temporary."

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Yes sir I understand your position.

I WANT more good paying manufacturing jobs for Americans.

Not everyone can be a successful attorney or entrepreneur.

And I am willing to pay more for a car to bring this about.

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Nice in theory, but at 4 percent unemployment, the only people in the U.S. that don't have a job don't want a job. The government layoffs at some point very soon will be reflected in the unemployment numbers.

If Trump brings back these tens of millions of manufacturing jobs, who is going to fill those positions? I would think the very first thing a manufacturer would do before spending $billions on new plants would be to make sure there is a viable workforce in place. I think this is a huge concern for most companies.

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All you care about is your pocketbook.

Your early comments were the most accurate and revealing.

Tariffs work.

Historically they always have.

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I care about putting food on the table for my family, paying my bills, and hopefully leaving a little something for my offspring. If that makes me a greedy, bad man, then so be it. Guilty as charged. I have watched more than three years of retirement funds disappear these last eight weeks. Forgive me if I am not giddy and doing a happy dance.

Yeah, I heard one of Trump's cheerleaders talk about how great the tariffs worked right after the Revolutionary War. Back when you had to take a horse & buggy to town. Medical care was just fifty miles away. Filling up the tank was feeding the horse some oats. Cotton was king. Electricity and indoor plumbing was not a thing. Maybe Trump wants to go back there, but hard pass for me.

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You have been one of Trumps cheerleaders for years.

Stock market goes down a little and you panic.

Common behavior.

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I voted for Trump 3 times. Unlike you, I am willing to call him out when I think he is going down the wrong path. The top concern of Americans going into the election was the economy. So far, Trump has failed miserably on the economy. Just calling balls and strikes as I see them.

I can see Trump's next "bold move" to be the firing of FED Chairman Jerome Powell. That way us little people (the middle and lower classes) can borrow money at a lower interest rate to buy more stuff they can't afford. What could possibly go wrong?

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A. Trump ca not fire the Fed Chairman
B. Trump can only extend his term or not when it runs out.
C. You chose early retirement. That is on you …not the president of the United States.
D. You chose to invest in the stock market. That is on you ….not the president of the United States.

We are all responsible for our own monetary decisions.
No one else.

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A. You don't think Trump can fire Powell? Do you think he cares? Just watch him. We'll see what the courts decide.
B. I think Trump should extend Powell's term, but he won't.
C. I have no regrets about retiring early. One of the best decisions I ever made. Unfortunately, I'm not sure if I will die at 64 or 100.
D. Yep, investing heavily in the stock market under a volatile Donald Trump was a piss poor decision on my part. We live and learn.

You said, "We are all responsible for our own monetary decisions." Truer words were never spoken.

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I am sure I am not the only retired American that has been gut-punched by Trump's foreign policy. I would bet there are millions just like me that are less than pleased by Trump's adversarial approach to all of the world. This includes many longstanding allies.

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My advice to you is just relax.

Strongly suspect the economy will be stronger than ever within 18 months.

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Liberals have told me the opposite.

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Time will tell.

But with a federal deficit increasing a trillion dollars every 110 days and almost 40% of our citizens not paying taxes…….

something dramatic needs to be done.

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KaiBear said:

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KaiBear said:

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KaiBear said:

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Mothra said:

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KaiBear said:

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Zero chance Trump is serious about annexing Canada.

Zero chance Harris would have been a better president regardless of the issue.

Retaliatory tariffs are necessary as the United States economy can no longer afford to supplement the economic development of the rest of the world.

If costs temporarily go up on cars, Fruit Loops , or anything else it's a necessary evil.

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Except that the tariffs on vehicles are not retaliatory. They are instead designed to bring manufacturing jobs to the US.

And if they do go through, rest assured the costs will not be "temporary."

---

Yes sir I understand your position.

I WANT more good paying manufacturing jobs for Americans.

Not everyone can be a successful attorney or entrepreneur.

And I am willing to pay more for a car to bring this about.

---

Nice in theory, but at 4 percent unemployment, the only people in the U.S. that don't have a job don't want a job. The government layoffs at some point very soon will be reflected in the unemployment numbers.

If Trump brings back these tens of millions of manufacturing jobs, who is going to fill those positions? I would think the very first thing a manufacturer would do before spending $billions on new plants would be to make sure there is a viable workforce in place. I think this is a huge concern for most companies.

---

All you care about is your pocketbook.

Your early comments were the most accurate and revealing.

Tariffs work.

Historically they always have.

---

I care about putting food on the table for my family, paying my bills, and hopefully leaving a little something for my offspring. If that makes me a greedy, bad man, then so be it. Guilty as charged. I have watched more than three years of retirement funds disappear these last eight weeks. Forgive me if I am not giddy and doing a happy dance.

Yeah, I heard one of Trump's cheerleaders talk about how great the tariffs worked right after the Revolutionary War. Back when you had to take a horse & buggy to town. Medical care was just fifty miles away. Filling up the tank was feeding the horse some oats. Cotton was king. Electricity and indoor plumbing was not a thing. Maybe Trump wants to go back there, but hard pass for me.

---

You have been one of Trumps cheerleaders for years.

Stock market goes down a little and you panic.

Common behavior.

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I voted for Trump 3 times. Unlike you, I am willing to call him out when I think he is going down the wrong path. The top concern of Americans going into the election was the economy. So far, Trump has failed miserably on the economy. Just calling balls and strikes as I see them.

I can see Trump's next "bold move" to be the firing of FED Chairman Jerome Powell. That way us little people (the middle and lower classes) can borrow money at a lower interest rate to buy more stuff they can't afford. What could possibly go wrong?

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A. Trump ca not fire the Fed Chairman
B. Trump can only extend his term or not when it runs out.
C. You chose early retirement. That is on you …not the president of the United States.
D. You chose to invest in the stock market. That is on you ….not the president of the United States.

We are all responsible for our own monetary decisions.
No one else.

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Lots of presidencies have risen and fallen on the strength of the stock market. That is because often times a president's policies impact same. We are seeing that with Trump.

There is one reason all of the gains in the market since November have completely been erased, and it isn't due to any decisions you or I have made. It's because of a self-inflicted wound by our commander in chief.

I hope he changes course before he loses Congress, and his remaining agenda is derailed.

Mothra said:

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KaiBear said:

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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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KaiBear said:

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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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KaiBear said:

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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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KaiBear said:

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Mothra said:

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KaiBear said:

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Zero chance Trump is serious about annexing Canada.

Zero chance Harris would have been a better president regardless of the issue.

Retaliatory tariffs are necessary as the United States economy can no longer afford to supplement the economic development of the rest of the world.

If costs temporarily go up on cars, Fruit Loops , or anything else it's a necessary evil.

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Except that the tariffs on vehicles are not retaliatory. They are instead designed to bring manufacturing jobs to the US.

And if they do go through, rest assured the costs will not be "temporary."

---

Yes sir I understand your position.

I WANT more good paying manufacturing jobs for Americans.

Not everyone can be a successful attorney or entrepreneur.

And I am willing to pay more for a car to bring this about.

---

Nice in theory, but at 4 percent unemployment, the only people in the U.S. that don't have a job don't want a job. The government layoffs at some point very soon will be reflected in the unemployment numbers.

If Trump brings back these tens of millions of manufacturing jobs, who is going to fill those positions? I would think the very first thing a manufacturer would do before spending $billions on new plants would be to make sure there is a viable workforce in place. I think this is a huge concern for most companies.

---

All you care about is your pocketbook.

Your early comments were the most accurate and revealing.

Tariffs work.

Historically they always have.

---

I care about putting food on the table for my family, paying my bills, and hopefully leaving a little something for my offspring. If that makes me a greedy, bad man, then so be it. Guilty as charged. I have watched more than three years of retirement funds disappear these last eight weeks. Forgive me if I am not giddy and doing a happy dance.

Yeah, I heard one of Trump's cheerleaders talk about how great the tariffs worked right after the Revolutionary War. Back when you had to take a horse & buggy to town. Medical care was just fifty miles away. Filling up the tank was feeding the horse some oats. Cotton was king. Electricity and indoor plumbing was not a thing. Maybe Trump wants to go back there, but hard pass for me.

---

You have been one of Trumps cheerleaders for years.

Stock market goes down a little and you panic.

Common behavior.

---

I voted for Trump 3 times. Unlike you, I am willing to call him out when I think he is going down the wrong path. The top concern of Americans going into the election was the economy. So far, Trump has failed miserably on the economy. Just calling balls and strikes as I see them.

I can see Trump's next "bold move" to be the firing of FED Chairman Jerome Powell. That way us little people (the middle and lower classes) can borrow money at a lower interest rate to buy more stuff they can't afford. What could possibly go wrong?

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A. Trump ca not fire the Fed Chairman
B. Trump can only extend his term or not when it runs out.
C. You chose early retirement. That is on you …not the president of the United States.
D. You chose to invest in the stock market. That is on you ….not the president of the United States.

We are all responsible for our own monetary decisions.
No one else.

---

Lots of presidencies have risen and fallen on the strength of the stock market. That is because often times a president's policies impact same. We are seeing that with Trump.

There is one reason all of the gains in the market since November have completely been erased, and it isn't due to any decisions you or I have made. It's because of a self-inflicted wound by our commander in chief.

I hope he changes course before he loses Congress, and his remaining agenda is derailed.

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We have lamented for a long time how politicians are unwilling to make the hard choices and due what is necessary to help the country.

Primarily because our electorate is too fickle and entitled.

Well, on a host of issues Trump is doing exactly what is necessary.

He is showing an impressive amount of guts.

Will our people be patient enough to stand by with him ?

Probably not.

But Trump is making the right choices none the less.

KaiBear said:

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Mothra said:

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KaiBear said:

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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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KaiBear said:

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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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KaiBear said:

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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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KaiBear said:

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Mothra said:

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KaiBear said:

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Zero chance Trump is serious about annexing Canada.

Zero chance Harris would have been a better president regardless of the issue.

Retaliatory tariffs are necessary as the United States economy can no longer afford to supplement the economic development of the rest of the world.

If costs temporarily go up on cars, Fruit Loops , or anything else it's a necessary evil.

---

Except that the tariffs on vehicles are not retaliatory. They are instead designed to bring manufacturing jobs to the US.

And if they do go through, rest assured the costs will not be "temporary."

---

Yes sir I understand your position.

I WANT more good paying manufacturing jobs for Americans.

Not everyone can be a successful attorney or entrepreneur.

And I am willing to pay more for a car to bring this about.

---

Nice in theory, but at 4 percent unemployment, the only people in the U.S. that don't have a job don't want a job. The government layoffs at some point very soon will be reflected in the unemployment numbers.

If Trump brings back these tens of millions of manufacturing jobs, who is going to fill those positions? I would think the very first thing a manufacturer would do before spending $billions on new plants would be to make sure there is a viable workforce in place. I think this is a huge concern for most companies.

---

All you care about is your pocketbook.

Your early comments were the most accurate and revealing.

Tariffs work.

Historically they always have.

---

I care about putting food on the table for my family, paying my bills, and hopefully leaving a little something for my offspring. If that makes me a greedy, bad man, then so be it. Guilty as charged. I have watched more than three years of retirement funds disappear these last eight weeks. Forgive me if I am not giddy and doing a happy dance.

Yeah, I heard one of Trump's cheerleaders talk about how great the tariffs worked right after the Revolutionary War. Back when you had to take a horse & buggy to town. Medical care was just fifty miles away. Filling up the tank was feeding the horse some oats. Cotton was king. Electricity and indoor plumbing was not a thing. Maybe Trump wants to go back there, but hard pass for me.

---

You have been one of Trumps cheerleaders for years.

Stock market goes down a little and you panic.

Common behavior.

---

I voted for Trump 3 times. Unlike you, I am willing to call him out when I think he is going down the wrong path. The top concern of Americans going into the election was the economy. So far, Trump has failed miserably on the economy. Just calling balls and strikes as I see them.

I can see Trump's next "bold move" to be the firing of FED Chairman Jerome Powell. That way us little people (the middle and lower classes) can borrow money at a lower interest rate to buy more stuff they can't afford. What could possibly go wrong?

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A. Trump ca not fire the Fed Chairman
B. Trump can only extend his term or not when it runs out.
C. You chose early retirement. That is on you …not the president of the United States.
D. You chose to invest in the stock market. That is on you ….not the president of the United States.

We are all responsible for our own monetary decisions.
No one else.

---

Lots of presidencies have risen and fallen on the strength of the stock market. That is because often times a president's policies impact same. We are seeing that with Trump.

There is one reason all of the gains in the market since November have completely been erased, and it isn't due to any decisions you or I have made. It's because of a self-inflicted wound by our commander in chief.

I hope he changes course before he loses Congress, and his remaining agenda is derailed.

---

We have lamented for a long time how politicians are unwilling to make the hard choices and due what is necessary to help the country.

Primarily because our electorate is too fickle and entitled.

Well, on a host of issues Trump is doing exactly what is necessary.

He is showing an impressive amount of guts.

Will our people be patient enough to stand by with him ?

Probably not.

But Trump is making the right choices none the less.

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That's part and parcel of being a politician. You have to pick your battles or risk having your agenda derailed by unnecessary ones.

A trade war with Canada and tariffs on automobile manufacturers is one of the unnecessary ones. There is so much good Trump could do if he could focus on the important battles, and not let himself get derailed over silly personal vendettas. But if the economy continues down this path, he's going to have it derailed. And that's a shame, because it didn't have to happen.

I fear this is going to be another one of his self-inflicted wounds, as he's too prideful to admit he was wrong.

Trump just signed an executive order today after Kid Rock's visit to the White House wanting to restrict the prices of concert tickets. Primarily scalpers. REALLY??? If teenagers and twentysomethings want to sell a kidney to go see a Taylor Swift concert, we should let them.

Why is Trump even commenting on Rosie O'Donnell's move to Ireland? She is as irrelevant as a pimple on an elephants ass. Trump brings himself down each time he responds to this crap. I really thought Trump 2.0 was going to be more Presidential, but I was wrong. Same ole Trump.

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It is an alarming thing to say due to the number of people opposed to him, especially after the Jan 6th incident.
He is not unifying the country by making such statements.

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Agreed. I voted for Trump 3 times but am ready for him to move along in 2028. The magic from his first term seems to have all but vanished. I think the world this time has grown tired of his 800 lb. gorilla act and is not afraid to push back.

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Shame you can't vote for Harris as an afterthought.

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Sadly, Harris, it appears would have done a much better job with the economy by doing nothing. I did not sign up for a world trade war or a President focused on annexation of sovereign nations.

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I would still vote Trump, but I am with you on the above. There's so much good he has done, that focusing on silly things like the above seem counter-productive.

The last thing I want to do is annex f'ing Canada. No thanks.

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So you hate invading Greenland and Canada, tariffs, love freedom, but support Trump in office till the day he dies.

What am I missing? Seems like total ignorance of history.

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Trump just signed an executive order today after Kid Rock's visit to the White House wanting to restrict the prices of concert tickets. Primarily scalpers. REALLY??? If teenagers and twentysomethings want to sell a kidney to go see a Taylor Swift concert, we should let them.

Why is Trump even commenting on Rosie O'Donnell's move to Ireland? She is as irrelevant as a pimple on an elephants ass. Trump brings himself down each time he responds to this crap. I really thought Trump 2.0 was going to be more Presidential, but I was wrong. Same ole Trump.

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I will admit, watching him have a 2nd grade spat with Rosie is hilarious. I have never hoped he'd be Presidential, just hoped for more good than bad.

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Trump loves to chum the waters with red herring for the blowfish to chase.

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It is an alarming thing to say due to the number of people opposed to him, especially after the Jan 6th incident.
He is not unifying the country by making such statements.

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Agreed. I voted for Trump 3 times but am ready for him to move along in 2028. The magic from his first term seems to have all but vanished. I think the world this time has grown tired of his 800 lb. gorilla act and is not afraid to push back.

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Shame you can't vote for Harris as an afterthought.

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Sadly, Harris, it appears would have done a much better job with the economy by doing nothing. I did not sign up for a world trade war or a President focused on annexation of sovereign nations.

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I would still vote Trump, but I am with you on the above. There's so much good he has done, that focusing on silly things like the above seem counter-productive.

The last thing I want to do is annex f'ing Canada. No thanks.

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So you hate invading Greenland and Canada, tariffs, love freedom, but support Trump in office till the day he dies.

What am I missing? Seems like total ignorance of history.

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Such binary thinking here. I've repeatedly disagreed with Trump on numerous issues, and have been critical of him for the last 8 years on these boards. One doesn't have to agree with a politician on every issue in order to realize that he is still far better than the alternative.

Biden was a total **** show - a disaster. As I've said numerous times, Trump was the lesser of the evils. He remains so. And that is why I voted for him. Does it mean I like everything he's done or support every decision? Of course not.

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Trump just signed an executive order today after Kid Rock's visit to the White House wanting to restrict the prices of concert tickets. Primarily scalpers. REALLY??? If teenagers and twentysomethings want to sell a kidney to go see a Taylor Swift concert, we should let them.

Why is Trump even commenting on Rosie O'Donnell's move to Ireland? She is as irrelevant as a pimple on an elephants ass. Trump brings himself down each time he responds to this crap. I really thought Trump 2.0 was going to be more Presidential, but I was wrong. Same ole Trump.

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You probably havent been to a concert in 25 years but it is a scam and a monopoly. Ticketmaster and Live Nation own all of the artists and venues. They work together to squeeze out smaller concert venues and put them out of business. They allow the scalpers and bots to buy up the tix and then sell them back at crazy prices bc they can charge fees on the resale transactions. In the 90s or early 2000s you could go to a concert for $30-50. Now those same concerts cost $200-$500 and nothing of value has been added to the consumer or to the artist. Pearl Jam was fighting this battle in the 90s and something regulatory needs to be done to break up this monopoly.

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Exactly

But it is also a curve ball for rebelous republicans to consider.

As Trump wishes to discourage the feeling that politically he is a lame duck president.

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But it is also a curve ball for rebelous republicans to consider.

As Trump wishes to discourage the feeling that politically he is a lame duck president.

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I suspect Trump's pronouncement doesn't affect rebellious Repubs whatsoever.

If the tariffs remain in place, Repubs throughout Congress are going to have to start distancing themselves from the man if they want to win re-election. Of course, it probably won't matter much. If he tanks the economy, then it will be a blood bath in the midterms, and nobody will have to worry about a third term.

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But it is also a curve ball for rebelous republicans to consider.

As Trump wishes to discourage the feeling that politically he is a lame duck president.

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I suspect Trump's pronouncement doesn't affect rebellious Repubs whatsoever.

If the tariffs remain in place, Repubs throughout Congress are going to have to start distancing themselves from the man if they want to win re-election. Of course, it probably won't matter much. If he tanks the economy, then it will be a blood bath in the midterms, and nobody will have to worry about a third term.

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True

Which is why every president since Eisenhower has kicked this problem down the road.

But with our deficit increasing another trillion dollars every few months and decent paying manufacturing jobs disappearing over the last 30 years…….Trump has to roll the dice.

" True
Which is why every president since Eisenhower has kicked this problem down the road.

But with our deficit increasing another trillion dollars every few months and decent paying manufacturing jobs disappearing over the last 30 years…….Trump has to roll the dice."

Kai Bear, on the majority of issues , I am a proud TDSer; however you are correct regarding those two issues. I don't agree with his methods, which is going to result in too much unnecessary damage. But we as a nation have continued to be cowards, lacking the political will and courage to significantly address these issues. As a result, perhaps Trump is giving us exactly the punishment we deserve.

What is your opinion?

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" True
Which is why every president since Eisenhower has kicked this problem down the road.

But with our deficit increasing another trillion dollars every few months and decent paying manufacturing jobs disappearing over the last 30 years…….Trump has to roll the dice."

Kai Bear, on the majority of issues , I am a proud TDSer; however you are correct regarding those two issues. I don't agree with his methods, which is going to result in too much unnecessary damage. But we as a nation have continued to be cowards, lacking the political will and courage to significantly address these issues. As a result, perhaps Trump is giving us exactly the punishment we deserve.

What is your opinion?

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I think Trump is the only guy on either side of the aisle with the courage to take on this necessary course of action.

This is not remotely'punishment'.

More like dramatically necessary surgery to save a patients life.

And like with most post surgery recuperation……the therapy will initially be painful.

KaiBear said:

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BUDOS said:

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" True
Which is why every president since Eisenhower has kicked this problem down the road.

But with our deficit increasing another trillion dollars every few months and decent paying manufacturing jobs disappearing over the last 30 years…….Trump has to roll the dice."

Kai Bear, on the majority of issues , I am a proud TDSer; however you are correct regarding those two issues. I don't agree with his methods, which is going to result in too much unnecessary damage. But we as a nation have continued to be cowards, lacking the political will and courage to significantly address these issues. As a result, perhaps Trump is giving us exactly the punishment we deserve.

What is your opinion?

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I think Trump is the only guy on either side of the aisle with the courage to take on this necessary course of action.

This is not remotely'punishment'.

More like dramatically necessary surgery to save a patients life.

And like with most post surgery recuperation……the therapy will initially be painful.

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Good post and you're right - Trump is the only dude in either party with both the nads and the will to do this. If given the right amount of time (which who knows how long that is) this will work and we will be a much stronger and more prosperous country with even more importantly good reason for a positive hope filled future outlook. Just hoping voters will stay the course in any event because we know what the alternative is which will only lead to disaster and eventual complete destruction of the country as we know it.

Johnny
I hear you and don't totally disagree. However, when tens of thousands of Americans lose their jobs for doing their jobs and doing it well, some of us wonder if there was a better way. Many of them voted for him and now some will never fully recover. Trying to convince many of them and others that there is not a better way to treat the people you swore to protect may be difficult for good reason.

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Johnny
I hear you and don't totally disagree. However, when tens of thousands of Americans lose their jobs for doing their jobs and doing it well, some of us wonder if there was a better way. Many of them voted for him and now some will never fully recover. Trying to convince many of them and others that there is not a better way to treat the people you swore to protect may be difficult for good reason.

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I agree this is tough and creates anxiety for a number of people (which will hopefully be short term in nature) - especially the people planning to retire soon. But, here's my question - exactly what is the "better way" that will solve these problems that as others have posted have been decades in the making? A lot of people, especially including the dims and the MSM along with multiple posters in this board are screaming about this, but I've yet to hear one person present a coherent, workable alternative plan that will actually solve these problems without continuing to mortgage future generations. Not. One.

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Trump loves to chum the waters with red herring for the blowfish to chase.

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It is an alarming thing to say due to the number of people opposed to him, especially after the Jan 6th incident.
He is not unifying the country by making such statements.

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Agreed. I voted for Trump 3 times but am ready for him to move along in 2028. The magic from his first term seems to have all but vanished. I think the world this time has grown tired of his 800 lb. gorilla act and is not afraid to push back.

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Shame you can't vote for Harris as an afterthought.

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Sadly, Harris, it appears would have done a much better job with the economy by doing nothing. I did not sign up for a world trade war or a President focused on annexation of sovereign nations.

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I would still vote Trump, but I am with you on the above. There's so much good he has done, that focusing on silly things like the above seem counter-productive.

The last thing I want to do is annex f'ing Canada. No thanks.

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So you hate invading Greenland and Canada, tariffs, love freedom, but support Trump in office till the day he dies.

What am I missing? Seems like total ignorance of history.

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Such binary thinking here. I've repeatedly disagreed with Trump on numerous issues, and have been critical of him for the last 8 years on these boards. One doesn't have to agree with a politician on every issue in order to realize that he is still far better than the alternative.

Biden was a total **** show - a disaster. As I've said numerous times, Trump was the lesser of the evils. He remains so. And that is why I voted for him. Does it mean I like everything he's done or support every decision? Of course not.

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6 days later, do you think Biden really was a bigger disaster? Trump is sure doing his best to outdo Biden. Darn it, we are just 3 months in. Just think of how much more there is for Trump to do!

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Johnny
I hear you and don't totally disagree. However, when tens of thousands of Americans lose their jobs for doing their jobs and doing it well, some of us wonder if there was a better way. Many of them voted for him and now some will never fully recover. Trying to convince many of them and others that there is not a better way to treat the people you swore to protect may be difficult for good reason.

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I agree this is tough and creates anxiety for a number of people (which will hopefully be short term in nature) - especially the people planning to retire soon. But, here's my question - exactly what is the "better way" that will solve these problems that as others have posted have been decades in the making? A lot of people, especially including the dims and the MSM along with multiple posters in this board are screaming about this, but I've yet to hear one person present a coherent, workable alternative plan that will actually solve these problems without continuing to mortgage future generations. Not. One.

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Then you aren't reading my posts. Probably because they're TL;DR. If interested I'll summarize. If not, no worries.

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Zero chance Trump is serious about annexing Canada.

Zero chance Harris would have been a better president regardless of the issue.

Retaliatory tariffs are necessary as the United States economy can no longer afford to supplement the economic development of the rest of the world.

If costs temporarily go up on cars, Fruit Loops , or anything else it's a necessary evil.

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Except that the tariffs on vehicles are not retaliatory. They are instead designed to bring manufacturing jobs to the US.

And if they do go through, rest assured the costs will not be "temporary."

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Yes sir I understand your position.

I WANT more good paying manufacturing jobs for Americans.

Not everyone can be a successful attorney or entrepreneur.

And I am willing to pay more for a car to bring this about.

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Nice in theory, but at 4 percent unemployment, the only people in the U.S. that don't have a job don't want a job. The government layoffs at some point very soon will be reflected in the unemployment numbers.

If Trump brings back these tens of millions of manufacturing jobs, who is going to fill those positions? I would think the very first thing a manufacturer would do before spending $billions on new plants would be to make sure there is a viable workforce in place. I think this is a huge concern for most companies.

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All you care about is your pocketbook.

Your early comments were the most accurate and revealing.

Tariffs work.

Historically they always have.

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I care about putting food on the table for my family, paying my bills, and hopefully leaving a little something for my offspring. If that makes me a greedy, bad man, then so be it. Guilty as charged. I have watched more than three years of retirement funds disappear these last eight weeks. Forgive me if I am not giddy and doing a happy dance.

Yeah, I heard one of Trump's cheerleaders talk about how great the tariffs worked right after the Revolutionary War. Back when you had to take a horse & buggy to town. Medical care was just fifty miles away. Filling up the tank was feeding the horse some oats. Cotton was king. Electricity and indoor plumbing was not a thing. Maybe Trump wants to go back there, but hard pass for me.

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You have been one of Trumps cheerleaders for years.

Stock market goes down a little and you panic.

Common behavior.

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I voted for Trump 3 times. Unlike you, I am willing to call him out when I think he is going down the wrong path. The top concern of Americans going into the election was the economy. So far, Trump has failed miserably on the economy. Just calling balls and strikes as I see them.

I can see Trump's next "bold move" to be the firing of FED Chairman Jerome Powell. That way us little people (the middle and lower classes) can borrow money at a lower interest rate to buy more stuff they can't afford. What could possibly go wrong?

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A. Trump ca not fire the Fed Chairman
B. Trump can only extend his term or not when it runs out.
C. You chose early retirement. That is on you …not the president of the United States.
D. You chose to invest in the stock market. That is on you ….not the president of the United States.

We are all responsible for our own monetary decisions.
No one else.

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A. You don't think Trump can fire Powell? Do you think he cares? Just watch him. We'll see what the courts decide.
B. I think Trump should extend Powell's term, but he won't.
C. I have no regrets about retiring early. One of the best decisions I ever made. Unfortunately, I'm not sure if I will die at 64 or 100.
D. Yep, investing heavily in the stock market under a volatile Donald Trump was a piss poor decision on my part. We live and learn.

You said, "We are all responsible for our own monetary decisions." Truer words were never spoken.

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I am sure I am not the only retired American that has been gut-punched by Trump's foreign policy. I would bet there are millions just like me that are less than pleased by Trump's adversarial approach to all of the world. This includes many longstanding allies.

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My advice to you is just relax.

Strongly suspect the economy will be stronger than ever within 18 months.

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Presently the economic indicators are not improving.

Guy Noir said:

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KaiBear said:

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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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KaiBear said:

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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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KaiBear said:

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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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KaiBear said:

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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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KaiBear said:

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Mothra said:

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KaiBear said:

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Zero chance Trump is serious about annexing Canada.

Zero chance Harris would have been a better president regardless of the issue.

Retaliatory tariffs are necessary as the United States economy can no longer afford to supplement the economic development of the rest of the world.

If costs temporarily go up on cars, Fruit Loops , or anything else it's a necessary evil.

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Except that the tariffs on vehicles are not retaliatory. They are instead designed to bring manufacturing jobs to the US.

And if they do go through, rest assured the costs will not be "temporary."

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Yes sir I understand your position.

I WANT more good paying manufacturing jobs for Americans.

Not everyone can be a successful attorney or entrepreneur.

And I am willing to pay more for a car to bring this about.

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Nice in theory, but at 4 percent unemployment, the only people in the U.S. that don't have a job don't want a job. The government layoffs at some point very soon will be reflected in the unemployment numbers.

If Trump brings back these tens of millions of manufacturing jobs, who is going to fill those positions? I would think the very first thing a manufacturer would do before spending $billions on new plants would be to make sure there is a viable workforce in place. I think this is a huge concern for most companies.

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All you care about is your pocketbook.

Your early comments were the most accurate and revealing.

Tariffs work.

Historically they always have.

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I care about putting food on the table for my family, paying my bills, and hopefully leaving a little something for my offspring. If that makes me a greedy, bad man, then so be it. Guilty as charged. I have watched more than three years of retirement funds disappear these last eight weeks. Forgive me if I am not giddy and doing a happy dance.

Yeah, I heard one of Trump's cheerleaders talk about how great the tariffs worked right after the Revolutionary War. Back when you had to take a horse & buggy to town. Medical care was just fifty miles away. Filling up the tank was feeding the horse some oats. Cotton was king. Electricity and indoor plumbing was not a thing. Maybe Trump wants to go back there, but hard pass for me.

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You have been one of Trumps cheerleaders for years.

Stock market goes down a little and you panic.

Common behavior.

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I voted for Trump 3 times. Unlike you, I am willing to call him out when I think he is going down the wrong path. The top concern of Americans going into the election was the economy. So far, Trump has failed miserably on the economy. Just calling balls and strikes as I see them.

I can see Trump's next "bold move" to be the firing of FED Chairman Jerome Powell. That way us little people (the middle and lower classes) can borrow money at a lower interest rate to buy more stuff they can't afford. What could possibly go wrong?

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A. Trump ca not fire the Fed Chairman
B. Trump can only extend his term or not when it runs out.
C. You chose early retirement. That is on you …not the president of the United States.
D. You chose to invest in the stock market. That is on you ….not the president of the United States.

We are all responsible for our own monetary decisions.
No one else.

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A. You don't think Trump can fire Powell? Do you think he cares? Just watch him. We'll see what the courts decide.
B. I think Trump should extend Powell's term, but he won't.
C. I have no regrets about retiring early. One of the best decisions I ever made. Unfortunately, I'm not sure if I will die at 64 or 100.
D. Yep, investing heavily in the stock market under a volatile Donald Trump was a piss poor decision on my part. We live and learn.

You said, "We are all responsible for our own monetary decisions." Truer words were never spoken.

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I am sure I am not the only retired American that has been gut-punched by Trump's foreign policy. I would bet there are millions just like me that are less than pleased by Trump's adversarial approach to all of the world. This includes many longstanding allies.

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My advice to you is just relax.

Strongly suspect the economy will be stronger than ever within 18 months.

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Presently the economic indicators are not improving.

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I voted for Trump but I don't think many of his supporters would go for a 3rd term.

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Oh, they would. Whether legal or not.

Trump could lie to them everyday and it would change nothing.

Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

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Trump could lie to them everyday and it would change nothing.

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So no difference from you democrats.

Wangchung said:

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Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

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Trump could lie to them everyday and it would change nothing.

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So no difference from you democrats.

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I believe Trump would be dumped if he became obviously senile and inpoopitent.

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Mothra said:

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Porteroso said:

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Mothra said:

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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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KaiBear said:

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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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Guy Noir said:

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ABC BEAR said:

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Trump loves to chum the waters with red herring for the blowfish to chase.

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It is an alarming thing to say due to the number of people opposed to him, especially after the Jan 6th incident.
He is not unifying the country by making such statements.

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Agreed. I voted for Trump 3 times but am ready for him to move along in 2028. The magic from his first term seems to have all but vanished. I think the world this time has grown tired of his 800 lb. gorilla act and is not afraid to push back.

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Shame you can't vote for Harris as an afterthought.

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Sadly, Harris, it appears would have done a much better job with the economy by doing nothing. I did not sign up for a world trade war or a President focused on annexation of sovereign nations.

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I would still vote Trump, but I am with you on the above. There's so much good he has done, that focusing on silly things like the above seem counter-productive.

The last thing I want to do is annex f'ing Canada. No thanks.

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So you hate invading Greenland and Canada, tariffs, love freedom, but support Trump in office till the day he dies.

What am I missing? Seems like total ignorance of history.

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Such binary thinking here. I've repeatedly disagreed with Trump on numerous issues, and have been critical of him for the last 8 years on these boards. One doesn't have to agree with a politician on every issue in order to realize that he is still far better than the alternative.

Biden was a total **** show - a disaster. As I've said numerous times, Trump was the lesser of the evils. He remains so. And that is why I voted for him. Does it mean I like everything he's done or support every decision? Of course not.

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6 days later, do you think Biden really was a bigger disaster? Trump is sure doing his best to outdo Biden. Darn it, we are just 3 months in. Just think of how much more there is for Trump to do!

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Still believe Trump is better, and am hopeful he will change course. But he is indeed teetering on making me regret voting for him.

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hodedofome said:

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I voted for Trump but I don't think many of his supporters would go for a 3rd term.

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Oh, they would. Whether legal or not.

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I think there are enough people who voted for him but would have voted for a halfway decent democrat instead. Plenty of voters are more on the fence than die hard MAGAs. I voted for him twice (can't really do much worse than Biden or Harris), but would not support a 3rd term. Nobody should be in office that long, bad things happen.

Wangchung said:

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Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

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Trump could lie to them everyday and it would change nothing.

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So no difference from you democrats.

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I agree that there is no big difference. I voted for Bush, and have never voted dem.

KaiBear said:

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Mothra said:

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KaiBear said:

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Zero chance Trump is serious about annexing Canada.

Zero chance Harris would have been a better president regardless of the issue.

Retaliatory tariffs are necessary as the United States economy can no longer afford to supplement the economic development of the rest of the world.

If costs temporarily go up on cars, Fruit Loops , or anything else it's a necessary evil.

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Except that the tariffs on vehicles are not retaliatory. They are instead designed to bring manufacturing jobs to the US.

And if they do go through, rest assured the costs will not be "temporary."

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Yes sir I understand your position.

I WANT more good paying manufacturing jobs for Americans.

Not everyone can be a successful attorney or entrepreneur.

And I am willing to pay more for a car to bring this about.

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Did you throw in a couple of thousand extra the last time you bought a car.? What are you waiting for? Do what you think is right. Leave others out of it.

Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

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KaiBear said:

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Mothra said:

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KaiBear said:

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Zero chance Trump is serious about annexing Canada.

Zero chance Harris would have been a better president regardless of the issue.

Retaliatory tariffs are necessary as the United States economy can no longer afford to supplement the economic development of the rest of the world.

If costs temporarily go up on cars, Fruit Loops , or anything else it's a necessary evil.

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Except that the tariffs on vehicles are not retaliatory. They are instead designed to bring manufacturing jobs to the US.

And if they do go through, rest assured the costs will not be "temporary."

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Yes sir I understand your position.

I WANT more good paying manufacturing jobs for Americans.

Not everyone can be a successful attorney or entrepreneur.

And I am willing to pay more for a car to bring this about.

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Did you throw in a couple of thousand extra the last time you bought a car.? What are you waiting for? Do what you think is right. Leave others out of it.

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Fear not.

Cambodian girls will still flock to generous American tourists.

Even those guys in their 60's.