Forest Bueller_bf said:

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Mitch Blood Green said:

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Wangchung said:

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Mitch Blood Green said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

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I agree he should not have carried a knife at all. How much you want to bet there are men here that pack heat to football games?

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This isn’t hard. Some people are just stupid. pic.twitter.com/RI0HShXLPc

— David Santa Carla 🦇 (@TheOnlyDSC) April 5, 2025

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A better comparison is teens with weapons meddling where they don't belong.

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Because a high school track meet is the same as a planned riot?

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You can use all the words you want. Doesn't change that both teens armed themselves looking for trouble.

The inconsistency is with you. I don't want the Frisco killer to get off with his "self defense" claim. He shouldn't have been armed or there. (Same as Rittenhouse)

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I agree Rittenhouse should NOT have been there with a rifle. That is where the agreement ends.

Criminals that came after him saw that he was actually a kid in way over his head, and were in the process of murdering him when he finally broke down and started shooting.

Had he not shot them, we would be talking about his murder, not his ill conceived attempt to be a riot monitor. Well actually we probably wouldn't be talking about his murder. Plenty of other people were murdered by the rioters and we hardly knew about them.

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To be clear, I am not defending the Frisco killer. What he did was criminal, and he should get 40 years. I can't imagine being the parents.

Who gets to create a situation where one is prepared for violence, and when it happens, claims self-defense? Both didn't have weapons "just in case" both had weapons and took action to be involved in violence.

Forest Bueller_bf said:

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Mitch Blood Green said:

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Wangchung said:

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Mitch Blood Green said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

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I agree he should not have carried a knife at all. How much you want to bet there are men here that pack heat to football games?

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This isn’t hard. Some people are just stupid. pic.twitter.com/RI0HShXLPc

— David Santa Carla 🦇 (@TheOnlyDSC) April 5, 2025

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A better comparison is teens with weapons meddling where they don't belong.

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Because a high school track meet is the same as a planned riot?

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You can use all the words you want. Doesn't change that both teens armed themselves looking for trouble.

The inconsistency is with you. I don't want the Frisco killer to get off with his "self defense" claim. He shouldn't have been armed or there. (Same as Rittenhouse)

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I agree Rittenhouse should NOT have been there with a rifle. That is where the agreement ends.

Criminals that came after him saw that he was actually a kid in way over his head, and were in the process of murdering him when he finally broke down and started shooting.

Had he not shot them, we would be talking about his murder, not his ill conceived attempt to be a riot monitor. Well actually we probably wouldn't be talking about his murder. Plenty of other people were murdered by the rioters and we hardly knew about them.

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As usual Forrest cuts to the chase with facts and common sense.

Easily one of the best posters on this message board.

Mitch Blood Green said:

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Forest Bueller_bf said:

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Mitch Blood Green said:

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Wangchung said:

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Mitch Blood Green said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

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I agree he should not have carried a knife at all. How much you want to bet there are men here that pack heat to football games?

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This isn’t hard. Some people are just stupid. pic.twitter.com/RI0HShXLPc

— David Santa Carla 🦇 (@TheOnlyDSC) April 5, 2025

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A better comparison is teens with weapons meddling where they don't belong.

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Because a high school track meet is the same as a planned riot?

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You can use all the words you want. Doesn't change that both teens armed themselves looking for trouble.

The inconsistency is with you. I don't want the Frisco killer to get off with his "self defense" claim. He shouldn't have been armed or there. (Same as Rittenhouse)

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I agree Rittenhouse should NOT have been there with a rifle. That is where the agreement ends.

Criminals that came after him saw that he was actually a kid in way over his head, and were in the process of murdering him when he finally broke down and started shooting.

Had he not shot them, we would be talking about his murder, not his ill conceived attempt to be a riot monitor. Well actually we probably wouldn't be talking about his murder. Plenty of other people were murdered by the rioters and we hardly knew about them.

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To be clear, I am not defending the Frisco killer. What he did was criminal, and he should get 40 years. I can't imagine being the parents.

Who gets to create a situation where one is prepared for violence, and when it happens, claims self-defense? Both didn't have weapons "just in case" both had weapons and took action to be involved in violence.

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Ultimately, whether it was self defense is extremely fact intensive and involves a trial. That's what Rittenhouse had to do. If KA thinks he has the facts, he can get the same thing.

Mitch Blood Green said:

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Forest Bueller_bf said:

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Mitch Blood Green said:

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Wangchung said:

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Mitch Blood Green said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

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I agree he should not have carried a knife at all. How much you want to bet there are men here that pack heat to football games?

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This isn’t hard. Some people are just stupid. pic.twitter.com/RI0HShXLPc

— David Santa Carla 🦇 (@TheOnlyDSC) April 5, 2025

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A better comparison is teens with weapons meddling where they don't belong.

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Because a high school track meet is the same as a planned riot?

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You can use all the words you want. Doesn't change that both teens armed themselves looking for trouble.

The inconsistency is with you. I don't want the Frisco killer to get off with his "self defense" claim. He shouldn't have been armed or there. (Same as Rittenhouse)

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I agree Rittenhouse should NOT have been there with a rifle. That is where the agreement ends.

Criminals that came after him saw that he was actually a kid in way over his head, and were in the process of murdering him when he finally broke down and started shooting.

Had he not shot them, we would be talking about his murder, not his ill conceived attempt to be a riot monitor. Well actually we probably wouldn't be talking about his murder. Plenty of other people were murdered by the rioters and we hardly knew about them.

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To be clear, I am not defending the Frisco killer. What he did was criminal, and he should get 40 years. I can't imagine being the parents.

Who gets to create a situation where one is prepared for violence, and when it happens, claims self-defense? Both didn't have weapons "just in case" both had weapons and took action to be involved in violence.

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As moronic as trying to equate anyone who carries with this track meet murderer. One had a weapon while protecting a city from violent rioters and used his gun when attacked after putting out a dumpster fire. The other took a knife to a TRACK MEET and provoked others by sitting in the opposing school's tent and then stabbed them to death. Kyle had the same right to be present as the rioters had. More, actually, considering Kyle was not there to break the law and the rioters were there to do exactly that. The track meet murderer had NO RIGHT to be in the opposing school's tent.

Wangchung said:

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Mitch Blood Green said:

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Forest Bueller_bf said:

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Mitch Blood Green said:

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Wangchung said:

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Mitch Blood Green said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

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I agree he should not have carried a knife at all. How much you want to bet there are men here that pack heat to football games?

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This isn’t hard. Some people are just stupid. pic.twitter.com/RI0HShXLPc

— David Santa Carla 🦇 (@TheOnlyDSC) April 5, 2025

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A better comparison is teens with weapons meddling where they don't belong.

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Because a high school track meet is the same as a planned riot?

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You can use all the words you want. Doesn't change that both teens armed themselves looking for trouble.

The inconsistency is with you. I don't want the Frisco killer to get off with his "self defense" claim. He shouldn't have been armed or there. (Same as Rittenhouse)

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I agree Rittenhouse should NOT have been there with a rifle. That is where the agreement ends.

Criminals that came after him saw that he was actually a kid in way over his head, and were in the process of murdering him when he finally broke down and started shooting.

Had he not shot them, we would be talking about his murder, not his ill conceived attempt to be a riot monitor. Well actually we probably wouldn't be talking about his murder. Plenty of other people were murdered by the rioters and we hardly knew about them.

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To be clear, I am not defending the Frisco killer. What he did was criminal, and he should get 40 years. I can't imagine being the parents.

Who gets to create a situation where one is prepared for violence, and when it happens, claims self-defense? Both didn't have weapons "just in case" both had weapons and took action to be involved in violence.

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As moronic as trying to equate anyone who carries with this track meet murderer. One had a weapon while protecting a city from violent rioters and used his gun when attacked after putting out a dumpster fire. The other took a knife to a TRACK MEET and provoked others by sitting in the opposing school's tent and then stabbed them to death. Kyle had the same right to be present as the rioters had. More, actually, considering Kyle was not there to break the law and the rioters were there to do exactly that. The track meet murderer had NO RIGHT to be in the opposing school's tent.

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This is Texas. People bring weapons to church.

Mitch Blood Green said:

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Forest Bueller_bf said:

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Mitch Blood Green said:

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Wangchung said:

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Mitch Blood Green said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

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I agree he should not have carried a knife at all. How much you want to bet there are men here that pack heat to football games?

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This isn’t hard. Some people are just stupid. pic.twitter.com/RI0HShXLPc

— David Santa Carla 🦇 (@TheOnlyDSC) April 5, 2025

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A better comparison is teens with weapons meddling where they don't belong.

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Because a high school track meet is the same as a planned riot?

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You can use all the words you want. Doesn't change that both teens armed themselves looking for trouble.

The inconsistency is with you. I don't want the Frisco killer to get off with his "self defense" claim. He shouldn't have been armed or there. (Same as Rittenhouse)

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I agree Rittenhouse should NOT have been there with a rifle. That is where the agreement ends.

Criminals that came after him saw that he was actually a kid in way over his head, and were in the process of murdering him when he finally broke down and started shooting.

Had he not shot them, we would be talking about his murder, not his ill conceived attempt to be a riot monitor. Well actually we probably wouldn't be talking about his murder. Plenty of other people were murdered by the rioters and we hardly knew about them.

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To be clear, I am not defending the Frisco killer. What he did was criminal, and he should get 40 years. I can't imagine being the parents.

Who gets to create a situation where one is prepared for violence, and when it happens, claims self-defense? Both didn't have weapons "just in case" both had weapons and took action to be involved in violence.

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Everyone.

Mitch Blood Green said:

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Wangchung said:

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Mitch Blood Green said:

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Forest Bueller_bf said:

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Mitch Blood Green said:

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Wangchung said:

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Mitch Blood Green said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

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I agree he should not have carried a knife at all. How much you want to bet there are men here that pack heat to football games?

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This isn’t hard. Some people are just stupid. pic.twitter.com/RI0HShXLPc

— David Santa Carla 🦇 (@TheOnlyDSC) April 5, 2025

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A better comparison is teens with weapons meddling where they don't belong.

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Because a high school track meet is the same as a planned riot?

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You can use all the words you want. Doesn't change that both teens armed themselves looking for trouble.

The inconsistency is with you. I don't want the Frisco killer to get off with his "self defense" claim. He shouldn't have been armed or there. (Same as Rittenhouse)

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I agree Rittenhouse should NOT have been there with a rifle. That is where the agreement ends.

Criminals that came after him saw that he was actually a kid in way over his head, and were in the process of murdering him when he finally broke down and started shooting.

Had he not shot them, we would be talking about his murder, not his ill conceived attempt to be a riot monitor. Well actually we probably wouldn't be talking about his murder. Plenty of other people were murdered by the rioters and we hardly knew about them.

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To be clear, I am not defending the Frisco killer. What he did was criminal, and he should get 40 years. I can't imagine being the parents.

Who gets to create a situation where one is prepared for violence, and when it happens, claims self-defense? Both didn't have weapons "just in case" both had weapons and took action to be involved in violence.

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As moronic as trying to equate anyone who carries with this track meet murderer. One had a weapon while protecting a city from violent rioters and used his gun when attacked after putting out a dumpster fire. The other took a knife to a TRACK MEET and provoked others by sitting in the opposing school's tent and then stabbed them to death. Kyle had the same right to be present as the rioters had. More, actually, considering Kyle was not there to break the law and the rioters were there to do exactly that. The track meet murderer had NO RIGHT to be in the opposing school's tent.

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This is Texas. People bring weapons to
church.

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Because they have a right to be in church and able to defend themselves. Same with someone protecting a city from rioters. What people DO NOT have a right to do is grab a weapon with the intent to incite a verbal response by trespassing where they aren't allowed then using that weapon to murder those who were incited.

Wangchung said:

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Mitch Blood Green said:

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Forest Bueller_bf said:

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Mitch Blood Green said:

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Wangchung said:

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Mitch Blood Green said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

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I agree he should not have carried a knife at all. How much you want to bet there are men here that pack heat to football games?

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This isn’t hard. Some people are just stupid. pic.twitter.com/RI0HShXLPc

— David Santa Carla 🦇 (@TheOnlyDSC) April 5, 2025

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A better comparison is teens with weapons meddling where they don't belong.

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Because a high school track meet is the same as a planned riot?

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You can use all the words you want. Doesn't change that both teens armed themselves looking for trouble.

The inconsistency is with you. I don't want the Frisco killer to get off with his "self defense" claim. He shouldn't have been armed or there. (Same as Rittenhouse)

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I agree Rittenhouse should NOT have been there with a rifle. That is where the agreement ends.

Criminals that came after him saw that he was actually a kid in way over his head, and were in the process of murdering him when he finally broke down and started shooting.

Had he not shot them, we would be talking about his murder, not his ill conceived attempt to be a riot monitor. Well actually we probably wouldn't be talking about his murder. Plenty of other people were murdered by the rioters and we hardly knew about them.

---

To be clear, I am not defending the Frisco killer. What he did was criminal, and he should get 40 years. I can't imagine being the parents.

Who gets to create a situation where one is prepared for violence, and when it happens, claims self-defense? Both didn't have weapons "just in case" both had weapons and took action to be involved in violence.

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As moronic as trying to equate anyone who carries with this track meet murderer. One had a weapon while protecting a city from violent rioters and used his gun when attacked after putting out a dumpster fire. The other took a knife to a TRACK MEET and provoked others by sitting in the opposing school's tent and then stabbed them to death. Kyle had the same right to be present as the rioters had. More, actually, considering Kyle was not there to break the law and the rioters were there to do exactly that. The track meet murderer had NO RIGHT to be in the opposing school's tent.

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When did citizens get the right to "protect a city from rioters?" You have a right to protect your property but the right to act as judge and jury does not flow to citizens. That's responsibility of local law enforcement.

To get in my car and drive to Waco because I perceive it to be crime ridden does not fall to me. We'd be a nation of chaos if it were as you suggest.

Mitch Blood Green said:

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Wangchung said:

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Mitch Blood Green said:

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Forest Bueller_bf said:

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Mitch Blood Green said:

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Wangchung said:

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Mitch Blood Green said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

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I agree he should not have carried a knife at all. How much you want to bet there are men here that pack heat to football games?

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This isn’t hard. Some people are just stupid. pic.twitter.com/RI0HShXLPc

— David Santa Carla 🦇 (@TheOnlyDSC) April 5, 2025

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A better comparison is teens with weapons meddling where they don't belong.

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Because a high school track meet is the same as a planned riot?

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You can use all the words you want. Doesn't change that both teens armed themselves looking for trouble.

The inconsistency is with you. I don't want the Frisco killer to get off with his "self defense" claim. He shouldn't have been armed or there. (Same as Rittenhouse)

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I agree Rittenhouse should NOT have been there with a rifle. That is where the agreement ends.

Criminals that came after him saw that he was actually a kid in way over his head, and were in the process of murdering him when he finally broke down and started shooting.

Had he not shot them, we would be talking about his murder, not his ill conceived attempt to be a riot monitor. Well actually we probably wouldn't be talking about his murder. Plenty of other people were murdered by the rioters and we hardly knew about them.

---

To be clear, I am not defending the Frisco killer. What he did was criminal, and he should get 40 years. I can't imagine being the parents.

Who gets to create a situation where one is prepared for violence, and when it happens, claims self-defense? Both didn't have weapons "just in case" both had weapons and took action to be involved in violence.

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As moronic as trying to equate anyone who carries with this track meet murderer. One had a weapon while protecting a city from violent rioters and used his gun when attacked after putting out a dumpster fire. The other took a knife to a TRACK MEET and provoked others by sitting in the opposing school's tent and then stabbed them to death. Kyle had the same right to be present as the rioters had. More, actually, considering Kyle was not there to break the law and the rioters were there to do exactly that. The track meet murderer had NO RIGHT to be in the opposing school's tent.

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When did citizens get the right to "protect a city from rioters?" You have a right to protect your property but the right to act as judge and jury does not flow to citizens. That's responsibility of local law enforcement.

To get in my car and drive to Waco because I perceive it to be crime ridden does not fall to me. We'd be a nation of chaos if it were as you suggest.

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Every citizen has a right to protect society. "Citizen's arrest" exists for a reason. A citizen has more right to protect society from rioters than rioters have to riot. Period.

Mitch Blood Green said:

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Wangchung said:

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Mitch Blood Green said:

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Forest Bueller_bf said:

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Mitch Blood Green said:

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Wangchung said:

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Mitch Blood Green said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

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I agree he should not have carried a knife at all. How much you want to bet there are men here that pack heat to football games?

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This isn’t hard. Some people are just stupid. pic.twitter.com/RI0HShXLPc

— David Santa Carla 🦇 (@TheOnlyDSC) April 5, 2025

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A better comparison is teens with weapons meddling where they don't belong.

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Because a high school track meet is the same as a planned riot?

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You can use all the words you want. Doesn't change that both teens armed themselves looking for trouble.

The inconsistency is with you. I don't want the Frisco killer to get off with his "self defense" claim. He shouldn't have been armed or there. (Same as Rittenhouse)

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I agree Rittenhouse should NOT have been there with a rifle. That is where the agreement ends.

Criminals that came after him saw that he was actually a kid in way over his head, and were in the process of murdering him when he finally broke down and started shooting.

Had he not shot them, we would be talking about his murder, not his ill conceived attempt to be a riot monitor. Well actually we probably wouldn't be talking about his murder. Plenty of other people were murdered by the rioters and we hardly knew about them.

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To be clear, I am not defending the Frisco killer. What he did was criminal, and he should get 40 years. I can't imagine being the parents.

Who gets to create a situation where one is prepared for violence, and when it happens, claims self-defense? Both didn't have weapons "just in case" both had weapons and took action to be involved in violence.

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As moronic as trying to equate anyone who carries with this track meet murderer. One had a weapon while protecting a city from violent rioters and used his gun when attacked after putting out a dumpster fire. The other took a knife to a TRACK MEET and provoked others by sitting in the opposing school's tent and then stabbed them to death. Kyle had the same right to be present as the rioters had. More, actually, considering Kyle was not there to break the law and the rioters were there to do exactly that. The track meet murderer had NO RIGHT to be in the opposing school's tent.

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When did citizens get the right to "protect a city from rioters?" You have a right to protect your property but the right to act as judge and jury does not flow to citizens. That's responsibility of local law enforcement.

To get in my car and drive to Waco because I perceive it to be crime ridden does not fall to me. We'd be a nation of chaos if it were as you suggest.

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If I recall correctly, KR was at that specific property/car lot to protact the vehicles from being burned or fires started bc he knew the owner. He probably shouldnt have been there but he was and him protecing thimself was not illegal. I dont think he was there to guard the town of Kenosha.

If we go back to 1992 the roof top Koreans were actively picking off people attempting to burn down their property in the LA riots and nothing ever came of that.

muddybrazos said:

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Mitch Blood Green said:

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Wangchung said:

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Mitch Blood Green said:

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Forest Bueller_bf said:

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Mitch Blood Green said:

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Wangchung said:

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Mitch Blood Green said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

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I agree he should not have carried a knife at all. How much you want to bet there are men here that pack heat to football games?

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This isn’t hard. Some people are just stupid. pic.twitter.com/RI0HShXLPc

— David Santa Carla 🦇 (@TheOnlyDSC) April 5, 2025

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A better comparison is teens with weapons meddling where they don't belong.

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Because a high school track meet is the same as a planned riot?

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You can use all the words you want. Doesn't change that both teens armed themselves looking for trouble.

The inconsistency is with you. I don't want the Frisco killer to get off with his "self defense" claim. He shouldn't have been armed or there. (Same as Rittenhouse)

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I agree Rittenhouse should NOT have been there with a rifle. That is where the agreement ends.

Criminals that came after him saw that he was actually a kid in way over his head, and were in the process of murdering him when he finally broke down and started shooting.

Had he not shot them, we would be talking about his murder, not his ill conceived attempt to be a riot monitor. Well actually we probably wouldn't be talking about his murder. Plenty of other people were murdered by the rioters and we hardly knew about them.

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To be clear, I am not defending the Frisco killer. What he did was criminal, and he should get 40 years. I can't imagine being the parents.

Who gets to create a situation where one is prepared for violence, and when it happens, claims self-defense? Both didn't have weapons "just in case" both had weapons and took action to be involved in violence.

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As moronic as trying to equate anyone who carries with this track meet murderer. One had a weapon while protecting a city from violent rioters and used his gun when attacked after putting out a dumpster fire. The other took a knife to a TRACK MEET and provoked others by sitting in the opposing school's tent and then stabbed them to death. Kyle had the same right to be present as the rioters had. More, actually, considering Kyle was not there to break the law and the rioters were there to do exactly that. The track meet murderer had NO RIGHT to be in the opposing school's tent.

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When did citizens get the right to "protect a city from rioters?" You have a right to protect your property but the right to act as judge and jury does not flow to citizens. That's responsibility of local law enforcement.

To get in my car and drive to Waco because I perceive it to be crime ridden does not fall to me. We'd be a nation of chaos if it were as you suggest.

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If I recall correctly, KR was at that specific property/car lot to protact the vehicles from being burned or fires started bc he knew the owner. He probably shouldnt have been there but he was and him protecing thimself was not illegal. I dont think he was there to guard the town of Kenosha.

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Yes, and he "instigated" the rioters attack on him by using a fire extinguisher to put out the fire in the dumpster they had just lit and rolled towards the car lot.

Stabbing isn't defensible unless you can argue that had you not stabbed, you would without a doubt be dead.

I HIGHLY doubt the kid who pulled out his knife and stabbed the other kid has that argument. If I had to guess, he let his ego get the best of him and it turned into rage.

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Stabbing isn't defensible unless you can argue that had you not stabbed, you would without a doubt be dead.

I HIGHLY doubt the kid who pulled out his knife and stabbed the other kid has that argument. If I had to guess, he let his ego get the best of him and it turned into rage.

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Premeditated.

This set of circumstances does not happen otherwise.

But OJ got off.

50 % chance this killer gets off as well.

And for the exact same reason.

Mitch Blood Green said:

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Forest Bueller_bf said:

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Mitch Blood Green said:

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Wangchung said:

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Mitch Blood Green said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

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I agree he should not have carried a knife at all. How much you want to bet there are men here that pack heat to football games?

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This isn’t hard. Some people are just stupid. pic.twitter.com/RI0HShXLPc

— David Santa Carla 🦇 (@TheOnlyDSC) April 5, 2025

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A better comparison is teens with weapons meddling where they don't belong.

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Because a high school track meet is the same as a planned riot?

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You can use all the words you want. Doesn't change that both teens armed themselves looking for trouble.

The inconsistency is with you. I don't want the Frisco killer to get off with his "self defense" claim. He shouldn't have been armed or there. (Same as Rittenhouse)

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I agree Rittenhouse should NOT have been there with a rifle. That is where the agreement ends.

Criminals that came after him saw that he was actually a kid in way over his head, and were in the process of murdering him when he finally broke down and started shooting.

Had he not shot them, we would be talking about his murder, not his ill conceived attempt to be a riot monitor. Well actually we probably wouldn't be talking about his murder. Plenty of other people were murdered by the rioters and we hardly knew about them.

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To be clear, I am not defending the Frisco killer. What he did was criminal, and he should get 40 years. I can't imagine being the parents.

Who gets to create a situation where one is prepared for violence, and when it happens, claims self-defense? Both didn't have weapons "just in case" both had weapons and took action to be involved in violence.

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Not sure about 40 years. I think the killer was in over his head too. I think wanted to seem "hard" he went to the others tent, and acted like a tough guy, daring them to touch him, then to hit him, when someone starting moving him out, he over reacted.

When the police apprehened him he collapsed, crying hysterically, asking if it was self defense, asking if the other kid was going to be ok, but unlike Rittenhouse, he was never in any real physical danger, coaches and officials were all over the place, a fight would have been broken up in moments, it wasn't a riot situation, it was a track meet, with officials, coaches, athletes, and parents everywhere.

I'm thinking Voluntary Manslaughter........Voluntary manslaughter is the killing of a human in which the offender acted in the heat of passion, a state that would cause a reasonable person to become emotionally or mentally disturbed to the point that they cannot reasonably control their emotions.

A 20 year sentence would be appropriate, which is the max for Voluntary manslaughter.

But, if there was premeditation your 40 year sentence would be appropriate.

Not matter which one, the kid really messed up and has ruined his life pretty much.

I do not want the prosecution to go overboard and end up blowing the case either. If they try for Murder 1, they may lose, that will be very hard to prove. Go for a lessor charge and get the conviction.

He took a knife to a track meet and intentionally sat in an opposing school's tent. That's about as premeditated as it can get.

I dont think others will see it as premeditated. Just saying. We will see.

It gets worse

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14580815/track-meet-stabbing-texas-claim-death-austin-metcalf.html

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Mitch Blood Green said:

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Forest Bueller_bf said:

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Mitch Blood Green said:

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Mitch Blood Green said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

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I agree he should not have carried a knife at all. How much you want to bet there are men here that pack heat to football games?

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This isn’t hard. Some people are just stupid. pic.twitter.com/RI0HShXLPc

— David Santa Carla 🦇 (@TheOnlyDSC) April 5, 2025

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A better comparison is teens with weapons meddling where they don't belong.

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Because a high school track meet is the same as a planned riot?

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You can use all the words you want. Doesn't change that both teens armed themselves looking for trouble.

The inconsistency is with you. I don't want the Frisco killer to get off with his "self defense" claim. He shouldn't have been armed or there. (Same as Rittenhouse)

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I agree Rittenhouse should NOT have been there with a rifle. That is where the agreement ends.

Criminals that came after him saw that he was actually a kid in way over his head, and were in the process of murdering him when he finally broke down and started shooting.

Had he not shot them, we would be talking about his murder, not his ill conceived attempt to be a riot monitor. Well actually we probably wouldn't be talking about his murder. Plenty of other people were murdered by the rioters and we hardly knew about them.

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To be clear, I am not defending the Frisco killer. What he did was criminal, and he should get 40 years. I can't imagine being the parents.

Who gets to create a situation where one is prepared for violence, and when it happens, claims self-defense? Both didn't have weapons "just in case" both had weapons and took action to be involved in violence.

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As moronic as trying to equate anyone who carries with this track meet murderer. One had a weapon while protecting a city from violent rioters and used his gun when attacked after putting out a dumpster fire. The other took a knife to a TRACK MEET and provoked others by sitting in the opposing school's tent and then stabbed them to death. Kyle had the same right to be present as the rioters had. More, actually, considering Kyle was not there to break the law and the rioters were there to do exactly that. The track meet murderer had NO RIGHT to be in the opposing school's tent.

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When did citizens get the right to "protect a city from rioters?" You have a right to protect your property but the right to act as judge and jury does not flow to citizens. That's responsibility of local law enforcement.

To get in my car and drive to Waco because I perceive it to be crime ridden does not fall to me. We'd be a nation of chaos if it were as you suggest.

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In America, at birth.

Assassin said:

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It gets worse

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14580815/track-meet-stabbing-texas-claim-death-austin-metcalf.html

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Lots of absolute scum out there willing to lie and destroy a grieving family's name.

GrowlTowel said:

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Mitch Blood Green said:

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Wangchung said:

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Mitch Blood Green said:

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Forest Bueller_bf said:

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Mitch Blood Green said:

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Wangchung said:

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Mitch Blood Green said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

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I agree he should not have carried a knife at all. How much you want to bet there are men here that pack heat to football games?

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This isn’t hard. Some people are just stupid. pic.twitter.com/RI0HShXLPc

— David Santa Carla 🦇 (@TheOnlyDSC) April 5, 2025

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A better comparison is teens with weapons meddling where they don't belong.

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Because a high school track meet is the same as a planned riot?

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You can use all the words you want. Doesn't change that both teens armed themselves looking for trouble.

The inconsistency is with you. I don't want the Frisco killer to get off with his "self defense" claim. He shouldn't have been armed or there. (Same as Rittenhouse)

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I agree Rittenhouse should NOT have been there with a rifle. That is where the agreement ends.

Criminals that came after him saw that he was actually a kid in way over his head, and were in the process of murdering him when he finally broke down and started shooting.

Had he not shot them, we would be talking about his murder, not his ill conceived attempt to be a riot monitor. Well actually we probably wouldn't be talking about his murder. Plenty of other people were murdered by the rioters and we hardly knew about them.

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To be clear, I am not defending the Frisco killer. What he did was criminal, and he should get 40 years. I can't imagine being the parents.

Who gets to create a situation where one is prepared for violence, and when it happens, claims self-defense? Both didn't have weapons "just in case" both had weapons and took action to be involved in violence.

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As moronic as trying to equate anyone who carries with this track meet murderer. One had a weapon while protecting a city from violent rioters and used his gun when attacked after putting out a dumpster fire. The other took a knife to a TRACK MEET and provoked others by sitting in the opposing school's tent and then stabbed them to death. Kyle had the same right to be present as the rioters had. More, actually, considering Kyle was not there to break the law and the rioters were there to do exactly that. The track meet murderer had NO RIGHT to be in the opposing school's tent.

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When did citizens get the right to "protect a city from rioters?" You have a right to protect your property but the right to act as judge and jury does not flow to citizens. That's responsibility of local law enforcement.

To get in my car and drive to Waco because I perceive it to be crime ridden does not fall to me. We'd be a nation of chaos if it were as you suggest.

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In America, at birth.

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Are you saying that if I had been in Baltimore on January 6, I would have had the right to drive to DC and defend the Capitol with force?

Wangchung said:

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Assassin said:

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It gets worse

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14580815/track-meet-stabbing-texas-claim-death-austin-metcalf.html

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Lots of absolute scum out there willing to lie and destroy a grieving family's name.

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Many people know that I coached summer track for years. Without paying much attention to what happened, this victim is similar to many of my kids. Suburban middle-class families whose parents trusted me with their kids for 15 hours per week.

It allowed me to spend time on the track with my kid. Track is such an incredible sport because it's both team and individual, allowing a coach to give a kid confidence. Some of the kids were cocky, as I might have been but some really rewarding experiences.

This is why I say the internet ain't a real place. (Before you ask, yes, I'd tap that ass on the mommies who were single, going through a divorce or whose husband let himself go)








(The last part isn't true but I know Kai will believe it and get all upset)

Mitch Blood Green said:

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Wangchung said:

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Assassin said:

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It gets worse

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14580815/track-meet-stabbing-texas-claim-death-austin-metcalf.html

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Lots of absolute scum out there willing to lie and destroy a grieving family's name.

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Many people know that I coached summer track for years. Without paying much attention to what happened, this victim is similar to many of my kids. Suburban middle-class families whose parents trusted me with their kids for 15 hours per week.

It allowed me to spend time on the track with my kid. Track is such an incredible sport because it's both team and individual, allowing a coach to give a kid confidence. Some of the kids were cocky, as I might have been but some really rewarding experiences.

This is why I say the internet ain't a real place. (Before you ask, yes, I'd tap that ass on the mommies who were single, going through a divorce or whose husband let himself go)








(The last part isn't true but I know Kai will believe it and get all upset)

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How many of the kids you dealt with brought knives to track meets and sat under the opposing school's tent?

Wangchung said:

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Mitch Blood Green said:

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Wangchung said:

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Assassin said:

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It gets worse

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14580815/track-meet-stabbing-texas-claim-death-austin-metcalf.html

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Lots of absolute scum out there willing to lie and destroy a grieving family's name.

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Many people know that I coached summer track for years. Without paying much attention to what happened, this victim is similar to many of my kids. Suburban middle-class families whose parents trusted me with their kids for 15 hours per week.

It allowed me to spend time on the track with my kid. Track is such an incredible sport because it's both team and individual, allowing a coach to give a kid confidence. Some of the kids were cocky, as I might have been but some really rewarding experiences.

This is why I say the internet ain't a real place. (Before you ask, yes, I'd tap that ass on the mommies who were single, going through a divorce or whose husband let himself go)








(The last part isn't true but I know Kai will believe it and get all upset)

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How many of the kids you dealt with brought knives to track meets and sat under the opposing school's tent?

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I don't know. I've dealt with troubled kids that I took on. I'm probably in situations that can go bad often. What have I seen? Never in nearly 50 years on the track.

You do it because occasionally, you get a kid who gets a scholarship to the Naval Academy and becomes a fighter pilot. And That is cool.

Assassin said:

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It gets worse

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14580815/track-meet-stabbing-texas-claim-death-austin-metcalf.html

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I wonder if she is one of the folks that floated the fake police report out there saying the same exact stuff,
or the fake autopsy that said overdose was cause #1 and stabbing in the heart cause #2.

I am amazed at the crazies that are out there, and also amazed at how many people simply hate white folks, just for being white.

Literally no regard for the life of the child who was killed.

Mitch Blood Green said:

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GrowlTowel said:

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Mitch Blood Green said:

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Wangchung said:

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Mitch Blood Green said:

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Forest Bueller_bf said:

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Mitch Blood Green said:

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Wangchung said:

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Mitch Blood Green said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

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I agree he should not have carried a knife at all. How much you want to bet there are men here that pack heat to football games?

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This isn’t hard. Some people are just stupid. pic.twitter.com/RI0HShXLPc

— David Santa Carla 🦇 (@TheOnlyDSC) April 5, 2025

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A better comparison is teens with weapons meddling where they don't belong.

---

Because a high school track meet is the same as a planned riot?

---

You can use all the words you want. Doesn't change that both teens armed themselves looking for trouble.

The inconsistency is with you. I don't want the Frisco killer to get off with his "self defense" claim. He shouldn't have been armed or there. (Same as Rittenhouse)

---

I agree Rittenhouse should NOT have been there with a rifle. That is where the agreement ends.

Criminals that came after him saw that he was actually a kid in way over his head, and were in the process of murdering him when he finally broke down and started shooting.

Had he not shot them, we would be talking about his murder, not his ill conceived attempt to be a riot monitor. Well actually we probably wouldn't be talking about his murder. Plenty of other people were murdered by the rioters and we hardly knew about them.

---

To be clear, I am not defending the Frisco killer. What he did was criminal, and he should get 40 years. I can't imagine being the parents.

Who gets to create a situation where one is prepared for violence, and when it happens, claims self-defense? Both didn't have weapons "just in case" both had weapons and took action to be involved in violence.

---

As moronic as trying to equate anyone who carries with this track meet murderer. One had a weapon while protecting a city from violent rioters and used his gun when attacked after putting out a dumpster fire. The other took a knife to a TRACK MEET and provoked others by sitting in the opposing school's tent and then stabbed them to death. Kyle had the same right to be present as the rioters had. More, actually, considering Kyle was not there to break the law and the rioters were there to do exactly that. The track meet murderer had NO RIGHT to be in the opposing school's tent.

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When did citizens get the right to "protect a city from rioters?" You have a right to protect your property but the right to act as judge and jury does not flow to citizens. That's responsibility of local law enforcement.

To get in my car and drive to Waco because I perceive it to be crime ridden does not fall to me. We'd be a nation of chaos if it were as you suggest.

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In America, at birth.

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Are you saying that if I had been in Baltimore on January 6, I would have had the right to drive to DC and defend the Capitol with force?

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Yes, provided that the force used by you was reasonable under the circumstances.

Why is it so hard for you to understand that you have a right to protect both your property and the property of others?

Forest Bueller_bf said:

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Assassin said:

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It gets worse

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14580815/track-meet-stabbing-texas-claim-death-austin-metcalf.html

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I

I am amazed at the crazies that are out there, and also amazed at how many people simply hate white folks, just for being white.

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The media and entertainment industry has propagated this hatred since the 60's.

Even more amazing these outlets have also persuaded whites to hate themselves. To believe that they hey are somehow deserving of violence.

For decades whites simply kept their mouths shut and fled to the suburbs or small towns. Places where they could live their lives in peace and with a semblance of safety.

Those days could be over; especially if Musk, Trump and reform minded Republicans dry up fraudulent cases of welfare, food stamps, 'disability ' payments and other federal handouts.

Mitch Blood Green said:

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Wangchung said:

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Mitch Blood Green said:

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Forest Bueller_bf said:

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Mitch Blood Green said:

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Wangchung said:

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Mitch Blood Green said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

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I agree he should not have carried a knife at all. How much you want to bet there are men here that pack heat to football games?

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This isn’t hard. Some people are just stupid. pic.twitter.com/RI0HShXLPc

— David Santa Carla 🦇 (@TheOnlyDSC) April 5, 2025

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A better comparison is teens with weapons meddling where they don't belong.

---

Because a high school track meet is the same as a planned riot?

---

You can use all the words you want. Doesn't change that both teens armed themselves looking for trouble.

The inconsistency is with you. I don't want the Frisco killer to get off with his "self defense" claim. He shouldn't have been armed or there. (Same as Rittenhouse)

---

I agree Rittenhouse should NOT have been there with a rifle. That is where the agreement ends.

Criminals that came after him saw that he was actually a kid in way over his head, and were in the process of murdering him when he finally broke down and started shooting.

Had he not shot them, we would be talking about his murder, not his ill conceived attempt to be a riot monitor. Well actually we probably wouldn't be talking about his murder. Plenty of other people were murdered by the rioters and we hardly knew about them.

---

To be clear, I am not defending the Frisco killer. What he did was criminal, and he should get 40 years. I can't imagine being the parents.

Who gets to create a situation where one is prepared for violence, and when it happens, claims self-defense? Both didn't have weapons "just in case" both had weapons and took action to be involved in violence.

---

As moronic as trying to equate anyone who carries with this track meet murderer. One had a weapon while protecting a city from violent rioters and used his gun when attacked after putting out a dumpster fire. The other took a knife to a TRACK MEET and provoked others by sitting in the opposing school's tent and then stabbed them to death. Kyle had the same right to be present as the rioters had. More, actually, considering Kyle was not there to break the law and the rioters were there to do exactly that. The track meet murderer had NO RIGHT to be in the opposing school's tent.

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When did citizens get the right to "protect a city from rioters?" You have a right to protect your property but the right to act as judge and jury does not flow to citizens. That's responsibility of local law enforcement.

To get in my car and drive to Waco because I perceive it to be crime ridden does not fall to me. We'd be a nation of chaos if it were as you suggest.

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Since 1776

Riots happen because the police have lost control of the citizens.

And in those riots police weren't even attempting to regain control.

When the government fails to act that is when citizens MUST act.

Mitch Blood Green said:

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Wangchung said:

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Mitch Blood Green said:

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Forest Bueller_bf said:

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Mitch Blood Green said:

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Wangchung said:

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Mitch Blood Green said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

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I agree he should not have carried a knife at all. How much you want to bet there are men here that pack heat to football games?

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This isn’t hard. Some people are just stupid. pic.twitter.com/RI0HShXLPc

— David Santa Carla 🦇 (@TheOnlyDSC) April 5, 2025

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A better comparison is teens with weapons meddling where they don't belong.

---

Because a high school track meet is the same as a planned riot?

---

You can use all the words you want. Doesn't change that both teens armed themselves looking for trouble.

The inconsistency is with you. I don't want the Frisco killer to get off with his "self defense" claim. He shouldn't have been armed or there. (Same as Rittenhouse)

---

I agree Rittenhouse should NOT have been there with a rifle. That is where the agreement ends.

Criminals that came after him saw that he was actually a kid in way over his head, and were in the process of murdering him when he finally broke down and started shooting.

Had he not shot them, we would be talking about his murder, not his ill conceived attempt to be a riot monitor. Well actually we probably wouldn't be talking about his murder. Plenty of other people were murdered by the rioters and we hardly knew about them.

---

To be clear, I am not defending the Frisco killer. What he did was criminal, and he should get 40 years. I can't imagine being the parents.

Who gets to create a situation where one is prepared for violence, and when it happens, claims self-defense? Both didn't have weapons "just in case" both had weapons and took action to be involved in violence.

---

As moronic as trying to equate anyone who carries with this track meet murderer. One had a weapon while protecting a city from violent rioters and used his gun when attacked after putting out a dumpster fire. The other took a knife to a TRACK MEET and provoked others by sitting in the opposing school's tent and then stabbed them to death. Kyle had the same right to be present as the rioters had. More, actually, considering Kyle was not there to break the law and the rioters were there to do exactly that. The track meet murderer had NO RIGHT to be in the opposing school's tent.

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When did citizens get the right to "protect a city from rioters?"

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Millions of people are blaming the dead kid and white society for his murder. $100k+ defense fund donations.

The implied meaning when people say "white guilt/privilege" is: "Violence Against Whites is Justified".

Doc Holliday said:

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Millions of people are blaming the dead kid and white society for his murder. $100k+ defense fund donations.

The implied meaning when people say "white guilt/privilege" is: "Violence Against Whites is Justified".

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Message has altered slightly over the last 50 years……but the results have been the same.

An insanely twisted ratio of black on white crime.

But God help the media outlet that finally publishes the raw numbers.

TL;DR:

Was there any previous history between the two......

One doesn't typically bring a Stabbing Knife to a track meet.

- KKM

Or at least we didn't BITD.

TIA.

D!

william said:

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TL;DR:

Was there any previous history between the two......

One doesn't typically bring a Stabbing Knife to a track meet.

- KKM

Or at least we didn't BITD.

TIA.

D!

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A thing between two students of different schools. Were that the case, the fact the murderer brought a knife and intentionally sat in the other school's area makes it clearly premeditated murder.

Mitch Blood Green said:

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Wangchung said:

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Assassin said:

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It gets worse

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14580815/track-meet-stabbing-texas-claim-death-austin-metcalf.html

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Lots of absolute scum out there willing to lie and destroy a grieving family's name.

---

Many people know that I coached summer track for years. Without paying much attention to what happened, this victim is similar to many of my kids. Suburban middle-class families whose parents trusted me with their kids for 15 hours per week.

It allowed me to spend time on the track with my kid. Track is such an incredible sport because it's both team and individual, allowing a coach to give a kid confidence. Some of the kids were cocky, as I might have been but some really rewarding experiences.

This is why I say the internet ain't a real place. (Before you ask, yes, I'd tap that ass on the mommies who were single, going through a divorce or whose husband let himself go)








(The last part isn't true but I know Kai will believe it and get all upset)

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It could be though, I coached youth baseball for three years and youth basketball for a couple of years. My kid was there always and my wife was often, and the single moms would hit on me, like I was single or something.

Like they just didn't seem to get that there was a divide not to be crossed. I never got that part.

Ok, so with all the false info out there, the false police report saying the twins were beating up the killer, the false autopsy that said the kid had 3X the fentenyl in him needed to kill him, and so many believing the lies of the false reports and the lies of the killers parents, saying the twins were not on the track team and known bullies, will there be riots when the killer is convicted.

Mitch Blood Green said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

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I agree he should not have carried a knife at all. How much you want to bet there are men here that pack heat to football games?

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This isn’t hard. Some people are just stupid. pic.twitter.com/RI0HShXLPc

— David Santa Carla 🦇 (@TheOnlyDSC) April 5, 2025

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A better comparison is teens with weapons meddling where they don't belong claiming self defense.

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That's a pretty terrible comparison.
Rittenhouse was trying to run away, and was being chased by pedophiles and other horrible criminals. A few of the criminals who attacked Rittenhouse were attacking with guns, skateboards and other weapons.

Austin was unarmed and according to the eye witnesses, he never attacked the knife wielding murderer.

Not a great comparison at all