Trump Federalizes DC police and sends in the national guard

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Redbrickbear
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BearFan33 said:

FLBear5630 said:

BearFan33 said:

FLBear5630 said:

BearFan33 said:

FLBear5630 said:

BearFan33 said:

Stefano DiMera said:

If he gave a **** about crime ...he probably wouldn't have incited a violent riot on the Capitol..

Time will show that this narrative is as fake as Trump is a Russian asset.

How much time? It has been 5 years?

More....There are still people that believe the Russian collusion narrative.

The rats are getting flushed out slowly in the FBI and DOJ. Did you really expect the Biden people to release damning info on their own party?




Biden people? You really think there are "Biden People" or Hilary People" in positions of leadership or that would have the authority to influence what gets released or not? Well, if there are DOGE and the Trump team sure suck at their jobs. They gutted enough normal people just doing their jobs, but left "Biden People"?

Bless your heart. Do you think the entire government workforce turns over when a new president comes in? Trump is still trying to get people appointed. Lots of people.

And there are that many in an Patel led FBI that they can impact policy? Patel would leave them in positions to control Trump related documents? You really did drink your kool-aid didn't you. Uncle Donale and Uncle Steve will be so proud, they are counting on you...



I would imagine there are some left. They haven't been on the ground that long and documents have a way of being hidden or placed in burn bags. They will be discovered and fired in time. Possibly prosecuted, depending on the offense.

In any case, a real House committee, not a sham one will investigate Jan 6, pending approval. I expect the FBI will cooperate and we will know the truth. Maybe we will find out who the DC pipe bomber was...

You are free to disagree, but I'm also thinking the rollout of info will be done strategically for political purposes. So you will have to be patient. Republicans are actually (finally) starting to fight like the democrats.

Another thing I find odd is why people that were fooled by the Russian collusion nonsense are still all in on the Jan 6 narratives. Its not like we haven't been down this road before.



The biggest difference is we watched January 6th on TV. We saw the speech before the attack on the Capital. We heard Rudi and Don jr. We heard Trump. We watched the attack on the Capital and watched the Secret Service moving Congress out. We saw Congress say ok, enough is enough. We heard from Pence what Trump wanted him to do. We watched it all. We can argue nuance 5 years later, but it left a bad taste in a lot of mouths about Donald.

As for Russia Collusion? I am not sure that as many people as you think bought that as real. Hillary should have been prosecuted for that! Once again, people can believe what they saw on Jan 6th and not buy into the Russia Collusion. It is not a package deal.

Trump is acting exactly like many hoped he wouldn't. That said, his policies are still better than the Biden Administration and he is more effective than that idiot Harris. As sad as that is...
canoso
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The happiest people in Washington DC over what President Trump has done are in fact the police that were "taken over." Now they have a reason to go to work.
Mitch Blood Green
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KaiBear said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

Johnny Bear said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

BearFan33 said:

Could this be a prelude to high profile arrests?


Nope. Epstein distraction.

Somebody's been binge watching MSDNC and the Clinton News Network again.


Is that what you have? Have you ever seen a president pardon so many criminals? Hell, he just moved the most notorious prisoner in the Fed System to the most posh prison.

This is not the tough on crime guy. This is the red meat guy. Don't look at Epstein. Look at Chicago.


Someone should finally look at Chicago.

Blacks have been getting slaughtered in Chicago for many years.

It's political negligence to allow the massacres to continue.

Hope Trump can find a way to protect Black Americans from the gangs and drug lords.

Long overdue.



There's no national will to stop blacks from getting slaughtered in Chicago or shoppers from getting killed in Allen or kids getting killed in Uvalde.

You often speak of being able to institutionalize the mentally insane. Instead, many are pushing to make owning guns easier for them. After we did nothing about Sandy Hook, preventing urban gun violence became a lost cause.

This thing in DC? It's all performative.
drahthaar
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Stefano DiMera said:

If he gave a **** about crime ...he probably wouldn't have incited a violent riot on the Capitol..


Along with Nancy.
KaiBear
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Mitch Blood Green said:

KaiBear said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

Johnny Bear said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

BearFan33 said:

Could this be a prelude to high profile arrests?


Nope. Epstein distraction.

Somebody's been binge watching MSDNC and the Clinton News Network again.


Is that what you have? Have you ever seen a president pardon so many criminals? Hell, he just moved the most notorious prisoner in the Fed System to the most posh prison.

This is not the tough on crime guy. This is the red meat guy. Don't look at Epstein. Look at Chicago.


Someone should finally look at Chicago.

Blacks have been getting slaughtered in Chicago for many years.

It's political negligence to allow the massacres to continue.

Hope Trump can find a way to protect Black Americans from the gangs and drug lords.

Long overdue.



There's no national will to stop blacks from getting slaughtered in Chicago or shoppers from getting killed in Allen or kids getting killed in Uvalde.

You often speak of being able to institutionalize the mentally insane. Instead, many are pushing to make owning guns easier for them. After we did nothing about Sandy Hook, preventing urban gun violence became a lost cause.

This thing in DC? It's all performative.


There is no will because it is overwhelmingly blacks killing blacks ( and almost everyone else ) and the woke crowd remains scared to say so out loud for fear of being called 'racist'.

If Trump succeeds in aiding with the clean up in DC....he will get zero credit from you or other Dem partisans.
That is simply how you roll.

However if Trump's efforts do work I hope certain mayors in our worst cities copy such actions as their own.

Hundreds, if not thousands of lives could be saved.

The majority of whom would be black.
Harrison Bergeron
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"Democracy is the theory that common people know what they want and deserve to get it hood and hard."
Porteroso
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boognish_bear said:

Is this really a plan or is he just riffing?



The conservative party getting pretty authoritarian. Love to see the zealots defend this.
boognish_bear
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KaiBear
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Porteroso said:

boognish_bear said:

Is this really a plan or is he just riffing?



The conservative party getting pretty authoritarian. Love to see the zealots defend this.

Love to see how you defend thousands of Americans being slaughtered every single year.

Some of our cities are now ranked among the worst in the world.

But you are safe in your little bubble, so you dont give a *****
Porteroso
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KaiBear said:

Porteroso said:

boognish_bear said:

Is this really a plan or is he just riffing?



The conservative party getting pretty authoritarian. Love to see the zealots defend this.

Love to see how you defend thousands of Americans being slaughtered every single year.

Some of our cities are now ranked among the worst in the world.

But you are safe in your little bubble, so you dont give a *****

LOL if you knew where I lived you would not call it a safe bubble. I hear gunshots very night. Many during the day too. Murder on my block, 5 houses down, this summer.

I absolutely give a ****, but the federal government taking over cities is not the answer, and anyone who has ever given a **** about the Constitution agrees.
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Porteroso said:

boognish_bear said:

Is this really a plan or is he just riffing?



The conservative party getting pretty authoritarian. Love to see the zealots defend this.

Happy to, but first tell me what is authoritarian about enforcing current law?

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Porteroso said:

KaiBear said:

Porteroso said:

boognish_bear said:

Is this really a plan or is he just riffing?



The conservative party getting pretty authoritarian. Love to see the zealots defend this.

Love to see how you defend thousands of Americans being slaughtered every single year.

Some of our cities are now ranked among the worst in the world.

But you are safe in your little bubble, so you dont give a *****

LOL if you knew where I lived you would not call it a safe bubble. I hear gunshots very night. Many during the day too. Murder on my block, 5 houses down, this summer.

I absolutely give a ****, but the federal government taking over cities is not the answer, and anyone who has ever given a **** about the Constitution agrees.

Hmm.

The federal government takes over all the time when minorities are disproportionally impacted by police departments, voting rights, and education. Urban crime, caused by soft on crime liberal mayors, police chiefs, and district attorneys, disproportionally impacts minorities - in a much more meaningful way.

If you don't have an equal right to live, those other rights are nominal in comparison. If localities cannot protect the most vulnerable, certainly the federal government must.

Harrison Bergeron
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GrowlTowel said:

Porteroso said:

boognish_bear said:

Is this really a plan or is he just riffing?



The conservative party getting pretty authoritarian. Love to see the zealots defend this.

Happy to, but first tell me what is authoritarian about enforcing current law?



He doesn't know - that's what the gals on The View said this morning.

1. It's Not Happening

2. It's Happening but It is not a Big Deal

3. It's Happening and It is a Good Thing

4. The Real Problem is People Reacting to It Happening
Porteroso
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GrowlTowel said:

Porteroso said:

boognish_bear said:

Is this really a plan or is he just riffing?



The conservative party getting pretty authoritarian. Love to see the zealots defend this.

Happy to, but first tell me what is authoritarian about enforcing current law?



The federal government taking over cities? You equate that to enforcing the law? Fix your logic first.
Harrison Bergeron
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Porteroso said:

GrowlTowel said:

Porteroso said:

boognish_bear said:

Is this really a plan or is he just riffing?



The conservative party getting pretty authoritarian. Love to see the zealots defend this.

Happy to, but first tell me what is authoritarian about enforcing current law?



The federal government taking over cities? You equate that to enforcing the law? Fix your logic first.

You need another channel besides The View.
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Porteroso said:

GrowlTowel said:

Porteroso said:

boognish_bear said:

Is this really a plan or is he just riffing?



The conservative party getting pretty authoritarian. Love to see the zealots defend this.

Happy to, but first tell me what is authoritarian about enforcing current law?



The federal government taking over cities? You equate that to enforcing the law? Fix your logic first.


Then define "taking over cities." The feds already control the purses of most major cities. Is it too much to ask that these cities enforce the laws on the books in exchange for that money?
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Porteroso said:

KaiBear said:

Porteroso said:

boognish_bear said:

Is this really a plan or is he just riffing?



The conservative party getting pretty authoritarian. Love to see the zealots defend this.

Love to see how you defend thousands of Americans being slaughtered every single year.

Some of our cities are now ranked among the worst in the world.

But you are safe in your little bubble, so you dont give a *****

LOL if you knew where I lived you would not call it a safe bubble. I hear gunshots very night. Many during the day too. Murder on my block, 5 houses down, this summer.

I absolutely give a ****, but the federal government taking over cities is not the answer, and anyone who has ever given a **** about the Constitution agrees.


Doubt it.

You lie constantly. Hell, you lie even when telling factual accounts would serve you better.

Remain totally clueless on almost any subject. Doubt you have ever read more than the first two paragraphs of the Constitution, much less comprehend its protections.

Don't know who continues to pay your bills, but they certainly settle for a lousy return.
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GrowlTowel said:

Porteroso said:

KaiBear said:

Porteroso said:

boognish_bear said:

Is this really a plan or is he just riffing?



The conservative party getting pretty authoritarian. Love to see the zealots defend this.

Love to see how you defend thousands of Americans being slaughtered every single year.

Some of our cities are now ranked among the worst in the world.

But you are safe in your little bubble, so you dont give a *****

LOL if you knew where I lived you would not call it a safe bubble. I hear gunshots very night. Many during the day too. Murder on my block, 5 houses down, this summer.

I absolutely give a ****, but the federal government taking over cities is not the answer, and anyone who has ever given a **** about the Constitution agrees.

Hmm.

The federal government takes over all the time when minorities are disproportionally impacted by police departments, voting rights, and education. Urban crime, caused by soft on crime liberal mayors, police chiefs, and district attorneys, disproportionally impacts minorities - in a much more meaningful way.

If you don't have an equal right to live, those other rights are nominal in comparison. If localities cannot protect the most vulnerable, certainly the federal government must.



IMO Trump may not be the first president to care about the folks in the inner city, but he is the first to try to do something productive about the crime there. He claims he cares about ALL the people. Maybe he is telling the truth. Like I said earlier, sometimes you have to save democrats from themselves.
Jacques Strap
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Not satisfied with taking the 20 side of 80/20 issues Dems take the 9 side of a 91/9 issue.

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Mitch Blood Green said:

KaiBear said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

Johnny Bear said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

BearFan33 said:

Could this be a prelude to high profile arrests?


Nope. Epstein distraction.

Somebody's been binge watching MSDNC and the Clinton News Network again.


Is that what you have? Have you ever seen a president pardon so many criminals? Hell, he just moved the most notorious prisoner in the Fed System to the most posh prison.

This is not the tough on crime guy. This is the red meat guy. Don't look at Epstein. Look at Chicago.


Someone should finally look at Chicago.

Blacks have been getting slaughtered in Chicago for many years.

It's political negligence to allow the massacres to continue.

Hope Trump can find a way to protect Black Americans from the gangs and drug lords.

Long overdue.



There's no national will to stop blacks from getting slaughtered in Chicago or shoppers from getting killed in Allen or kids getting killed in Uvalde.

You often speak of being able to institutionalize the mentally insane. Instead, many are pushing to make owning guns easier for them. After we did nothing about Sandy Hook, preventing urban gun violence became a lost cause.

This thing in DC? It's all performative.


1. It's not happening.
2. It's happening but it's not a big deal.
3. It's happening and it's a good thing.
4. The problem is really the reaction to the happening.

You Nazis are sure butthurt about something that is performative LOL
Harrison Bergeron
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Jacques Strap said:

Not satisfied with taking the 20 side of 80/20 issues Dems take the 9 side of a 91/9 issue.



The amazing thing about Trump is that he has gotten Democrats to aggressively support:
- Drug cartels
- Human traffickers
- Child molesters
- Misogynists
- Racists
- Crime
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BearFan33 said:

GrowlTowel said:

Porteroso said:

KaiBear said:

Porteroso said:

boognish_bear said:

Is this really a plan or is he just riffing?



The conservative party getting pretty authoritarian. Love to see the zealots defend this.

Love to see how you defend thousands of Americans being slaughtered every single year.

Some of our cities are now ranked among the worst in the world.

But you are safe in your little bubble, so you dont give a *****

LOL if you knew where I lived you would not call it a safe bubble. I hear gunshots very night. Many during the day too. Murder on my block, 5 houses down, this summer.

I absolutely give a ****, but the federal government taking over cities is not the answer, and anyone who has ever given a **** about the Constitution agrees.

Hmm.

The federal government takes over all the time when minorities are disproportionally impacted by police departments, voting rights, and education. Urban crime, caused by soft on crime liberal mayors, police chiefs, and district attorneys, disproportionally impacts minorities - in a much more meaningful way.

If you don't have an equal right to live, those other rights are nominal in comparison. If localities cannot protect the most vulnerable, certainly the federal government must.



IMO Trump may not be the first president to care about the folks in the inner city, but he is the first to try to do something productive about the crime there. He claims he cares about ALL the people. Maybe he is telling the truth. Like I said earlier, sometimes you have to save democrats from themselves.

You bring up a good point. The other Presidents made resources available to the locals for general law enforcement.

But Trump is not the first to use Federal power - under extreme conditions I count six time in the modern era - Arkansas in the 50's, in the 60's Selma/Detroit/ and various after MLK, 80's Miami after Mariel Boat Lift, and then 92 for the Rodney King riots.

The question is not doing it, what is the duration and what is the condition for their removal and turning back to the locals. This is a bit open ended, not un-warranted or un-precedented but what is the goal? What is the exit plan?
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FLBear5630 said:

BearFan33 said:

GrowlTowel said:

Porteroso said:

KaiBear said:

Porteroso said:

boognish_bear said:

Is this really a plan or is he just riffing?



The conservative party getting pretty authoritarian. Love to see the zealots defend this.

Love to see how you defend thousands of Americans being slaughtered every single year.

Some of our cities are now ranked among the worst in the world.

But you are safe in your little bubble, so you dont give a *****

LOL if you knew where I lived you would not call it a safe bubble. I hear gunshots very night. Many during the day too. Murder on my block, 5 houses down, this summer.

I absolutely give a ****, but the federal government taking over cities is not the answer, and anyone who has ever given a **** about the Constitution agrees.

Hmm.

The federal government takes over all the time when minorities are disproportionally impacted by police departments, voting rights, and education. Urban crime, caused by soft on crime liberal mayors, police chiefs, and district attorneys, disproportionally impacts minorities - in a much more meaningful way.

If you don't have an equal right to live, those other rights are nominal in comparison. If localities cannot protect the most vulnerable, certainly the federal government must.



IMO Trump may not be the first president to care about the folks in the inner city, but he is the first to try to do something productive about the crime there. He claims he cares about ALL the people. Maybe he is telling the truth. Like I said earlier, sometimes you have to save democrats from themselves.

You bring up a good point. The other Presidents made resources available to the locals for general law enforcement.

But Trump is not the first to use Federal power - under extreme conditions I count six time in the modern era - Arkansas in the 50's, in the 60's Selma/Detroit/ and various after MLK, 80's Miami after Mariel Boat Lift, and then 92 for the Rodney King riots.

The question is not doing it, what is the duration and what is the condition for their removal and turning back to the locals. This is a bit open ended, not un-warranted or un-precedented but what is the goal? What is the exit plan?

Those are good examples. I guess I was more talking about the festering street crime stuff as opposed to a spasm of violence like after Rodney king, etc. I don't know what the end point is or if federalization will work. I'll be following with interest. I've been to DC many times and hope it improves. There are lots of neat museums and things to do.
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canoso said:

Stefano DiMera said:

If he gave a **** about crime ...he probably wouldn't have incited a violent riot on the Capitol..

Which is why he didn't.

Surprised he didnt call out the troops that day. He said he couldnt do it and that N. Pelosi would have to be the one to do it. One involved breaking doors and windows and loss of life. The other doesnt. After telling minions he would be right there with them he went home and rooted for them on TV. Now he is upset with squating homeless people and protesting spitters so he takes action by doing taking over.

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BearFan33 said:

FLBear5630 said:

BearFan33 said:

GrowlTowel said:

Porteroso said:

KaiBear said:

Porteroso said:

boognish_bear said:

Is this really a plan or is he just riffing?



The conservative party getting pretty authoritarian. Love to see the zealots defend this.

Love to see how you defend thousands of Americans being slaughtered every single year.

Some of our cities are now ranked among the worst in the world.

But you are safe in your little bubble, so you dont give a *****

LOL if you knew where I lived you would not call it a safe bubble. I hear gunshots very night. Many during the day too. Murder on my block, 5 houses down, this summer.

I absolutely give a ****, but the federal government taking over cities is not the answer, and anyone who has ever given a **** about the Constitution agrees.

Hmm.

The federal government takes over all the time when minorities are disproportionally impacted by police departments, voting rights, and education. Urban crime, caused by soft on crime liberal mayors, police chiefs, and district attorneys, disproportionally impacts minorities - in a much more meaningful way.

If you don't have an equal right to live, those other rights are nominal in comparison. If localities cannot protect the most vulnerable, certainly the federal government must.



IMO Trump may not be the first president to care about the folks in the inner city, but he is the first to try to do something productive about the crime there. He claims he cares about ALL the people. Maybe he is telling the truth. Like I said earlier, sometimes you have to save democrats from themselves.

You bring up a good point. The other Presidents made resources available to the locals for general law enforcement.

But Trump is not the first to use Federal power - under extreme conditions I count six time in the modern era - Arkansas in the 50's, in the 60's Selma/Detroit/ and various after MLK, 80's Miami after Mariel Boat Lift, and then 92 for the Rodney King riots.

The question is not doing it, what is the duration and what is the condition for their removal and turning back to the locals. This is a bit open ended, not un-warranted or un-precedented but what is the goal? What is the exit plan?

Those are good examples. I guess I was more talking about the festering street crime stuff as opposed to a spasm of violence like after Rodney king, etc. I don't know what the end point is or if federalization will work. I'll be following with interest. I've been to DC many times and hope it improves. There are lots of neat museums and things to do.

I do too. I go to a Conference every January. I enjoy DC, good food. Best liquor selection in the world. They have everything. Maybe catch a Capitals game. But, outside of that area. It can get scary.
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Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

canoso said:

Stefano DiMera said:

If he gave a **** about crime ...he probably wouldn't have incited a violent riot on the Capitol..

Which is why he didn't.

Surprised he didnt call out the troops that day. He said he couldnt do it and that N. Pelosi would have to be the one to do it. One involved breaking doors and windows and loss of life. The other doesnt. After telling minions he would be right there with them he went home and rooted for them on TV. Now he is upset with squating homeless people and protesting spitters so he takes action by doing taking over.



I don't think the president can call the NG to the Capitol grounds. Separation of powers.
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FLBear5630 said:

BearFan33 said:

FLBear5630 said:

BearFan33 said:

GrowlTowel said:

Porteroso said:

KaiBear said:

Porteroso said:

boognish_bear said:

Is this really a plan or is he just riffing?



The conservative party getting pretty authoritarian. Love to see the zealots defend this.

Love to see how you defend thousands of Americans being slaughtered every single year.

Some of our cities are now ranked among the worst in the world.

But you are safe in your little bubble, so you dont give a *****

LOL if you knew where I lived you would not call it a safe bubble. I hear gunshots very night. Many during the day too. Murder on my block, 5 houses down, this summer.

I absolutely give a ****, but the federal government taking over cities is not the answer, and anyone who has ever given a **** about the Constitution agrees.

Hmm.

The federal government takes over all the time when minorities are disproportionally impacted by police departments, voting rights, and education. Urban crime, caused by soft on crime liberal mayors, police chiefs, and district attorneys, disproportionally impacts minorities - in a much more meaningful way.

If you don't have an equal right to live, those other rights are nominal in comparison. If localities cannot protect the most vulnerable, certainly the federal government must.



IMO Trump may not be the first president to care about the folks in the inner city, but he is the first to try to do something productive about the crime there. He claims he cares about ALL the people. Maybe he is telling the truth. Like I said earlier, sometimes you have to save democrats from themselves.

You bring up a good point. The other Presidents made resources available to the locals for general law enforcement.

But Trump is not the first to use Federal power - under extreme conditions I count six time in the modern era - Arkansas in the 50's, in the 60's Selma/Detroit/ and various after MLK, 80's Miami after Mariel Boat Lift, and then 92 for the Rodney King riots.

The question is not doing it, what is the duration and what is the condition for their removal and turning back to the locals. This is a bit open ended, not un-warranted or un-precedented but what is the goal? What is the exit plan?

Those are good examples. I guess I was more talking about the festering street crime stuff as opposed to a spasm of violence like after Rodney king, etc. I don't know what the end point is or if federalization will work. I'll be following with interest. I've been to DC many times and hope it improves. There are lots of neat museums and things to do.

I do too. I go to a Conference every January. I enjoy DC, good food. Best liquor selection in the world. They have everything. Maybe catch a Capitals game. But, outside of that area. It can get scary.


Been to DC once. It's as least as dangerous as……

Saint Louis
Memphis
Atlanta
Baltimore
New Orleans
Chicago
Oakland
San Francisco
Los Angeles
Philadelphia
New York City


We have all gradually become accustomed to incredibly violent, dangerous and absolutely **** hole cities.

Trump is attempting to fix the one city where the Feds have the legal right to intervene………

but the same idiots who believe in legalizing hard narcotics….want to stop Trump ( or anyone else ) from doing what is necessary.
Limited IQ Redneck in PU
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Idiots that believe in freedom and personal choices? Used to have the same argument with an aggie on here.
Harrison Bergeron
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EatMoreSalmon said:

Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

canoso said:

Stefano DiMera said:

If he gave a **** about crime ...he probably wouldn't have incited a violent riot on the Capitol..

Which is why he didn't.

Surprised he didnt call out the troops that day. He said he couldnt do it and that N. Pelosi would have to be the one to do it. One involved breaking doors and windows and loss of life. The other doesnt. After telling minions he would be right there with them he went home and rooted for them on TV. Now he is upset with squating homeless people and protesting spitters so he takes action by doing taking over.



I don't think the president can call the NG to the Capitol grounds. Separation of powers.

The first problem with morons is they do not realize they're morons.
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Harrison Bergeron said:

GrowlTowel said:

Porteroso said:

boognish_bear said:

Is this really a plan or is he just riffing?



The conservative party getting pretty authoritarian. Love to see the zealots defend this.

Happy to, but first tell me what is authoritarian about enforcing current law?



He doesn't know - that's what the gals on The View said this morning.

1. It's Not Happening

2. It's Happening but It is not a Big Deal

3. It's Happening and It is a Good Thing

4. The Real Problem is People Reacting to It Happening

funny you know what the view is. tells me you have seen it. Getting a job may be in order.
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Redbrickbear
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KaiBear said:

FLBear5630 said:

BearFan33 said:

FLBear5630 said:

BearFan33 said:

GrowlTowel said:

Porteroso said:

KaiBear said:

Porteroso said:

boognish_bear said:

Is this really a plan or is he just riffing?



The conservative party getting pretty authoritarian. Love to see the zealots defend this.

Love to see how you defend thousands of Americans being slaughtered every single year.

Some of our cities are now ranked among the worst in the world.

But you are safe in your little bubble, so you dont give a *****

LOL if you knew where I lived you would not call it a safe bubble. I hear gunshots very night. Many during the day too. Murder on my block, 5 houses down, this summer.

I absolutely give a ****, but the federal government taking over cities is not the answer, and anyone who has ever given a **** about the Constitution agrees.

Hmm.

The federal government takes over all the time when minorities are disproportionally impacted by police departments, voting rights, and education. Urban crime, caused by soft on crime liberal mayors, police chiefs, and district attorneys, disproportionally impacts minorities - in a much more meaningful way.

If you don't have an equal right to live, those other rights are nominal in comparison. If localities cannot protect the most vulnerable, certainly the federal government must.



IMO Trump may not be the first president to care about the folks in the inner city, but he is the first to try to do something productive about the crime there. He claims he cares about ALL the people. Maybe he is telling the truth. Like I said earlier, sometimes you have to save democrats from themselves.

You bring up a good point. The other Presidents made resources available to the locals for general law enforcement.

But Trump is not the first to use Federal power - under extreme conditions I count six time in the modern era - Arkansas in the 50's, in the 60's Selma/Detroit/ and various after MLK, 80's Miami after Mariel Boat Lift, and then 92 for the Rodney King riots.

The question is not doing it, what is the duration and what is the condition for their removal and turning back to the locals. This is a bit open ended, not un-warranted or un-precedented but what is the goal? What is the exit plan?

Those are good examples. I guess I was more talking about the festering street crime stuff as opposed to a spasm of violence like after Rodney king, etc. I don't know what the end point is or if federalization will work. I'll be following with interest. I've been to DC many times and hope it improves. There are lots of neat museums and things to do.

I do too. I go to a Conference every January. I enjoy DC, good food. Best liquor selection in the world. They have everything. Maybe catch a Capitals game. But, outside of that area. It can get scary.


Been to DC once. It's as least as dangerous as……

Saint Louis
Memphis
Atlanta
Baltimore
New Orleans
Chicago
Oakland
San Francisco
Los Angeles
Philadelphia
New York City


We have all gradually become accustomed to incredibly violent, dangerous and absolutely **** hole cities.

Trump is attempting to fix the one city where the Feds have the legal right to intervene……….


I agree that it is ridiculous how accepting of dysfunctional urban violence and chaos Americans have become.

Levels that would be a crisis in Japan or the old UK







 
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