Trump Federalizes DC police and sends in the national guard

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BearFan33 said:

Could this be a prelude to high profile arrests?

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FLBear5630 said:

KaiBear said:

FLBear5630 said:

Redbrickbear said:



This is a great picture. I am 100% for US Marshalls and other Federal Law Enforcement personnel being used to augment local Police. Well done.

As I said, it is not the "What" it is the "How". There is a huge difference between Federal Law Enforcement and military. I am not for Military combat or support troops for law enforcement outside of MP units. Putting troops and civilians together is not a good idea nor look for the US.

More Law Enforcement trained people and less general troop movements.

Dead people and widespread looting is a much worse 'look'.

Don't give a damn about the 'look' of US troops guarding our streets and people.

Time to stop the total decline of our cities.



We are saying the same thing. I just don't want the military running through US cities, I am strange that way. Give Law Enforcement what they need.

How about taking from that 1T Defense budget and a few hundred million or so more for Law Enforcement. Maybe get beat cops back out in the neighborhoods. That is better than using military for law enforcement.

You keep believing that optics and look doesn't count. We run on 2 year elections, looks always matter.

'Looks' is what got us 8 years of Obama's destruction.

Looks is what caused reduced police presense, no bail legislation, legal pot, trans multilation, hundreds of thousands of mentally ill ( usually caused by drugs ) living and dying on the streets.

Results is what I care about...the quality of people's lives.
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FLBear5630 said:

Redbrickbear said:



This is a great picture. I am 100% for US Marshalls and other Federal Law Enforcement personnel being used to augment local Police. Well done.

As I said, it is not the "What" it is the "How". There is a huge difference between Federal Law Enforcement and military. I am not for Military combat or support troops for law enforcement outside of MP units. Putting troops and civilians together is not a good idea nor look for the US.

More Law Enforcement trained people and less general troop movements.

Using the military to police the USA is illegal, amongst other things...
FLBear5630
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KaiBear said:

FLBear5630 said:

KaiBear said:

FLBear5630 said:

Redbrickbear said:



This is a great picture. I am 100% for US Marshalls and other Federal Law Enforcement personnel being used to augment local Police. Well done.

As I said, it is not the "What" it is the "How". There is a huge difference between Federal Law Enforcement and military. I am not for Military combat or support troops for law enforcement outside of MP units. Putting troops and civilians together is not a good idea nor look for the US.

More Law Enforcement trained people and less general troop movements.

Dead people and widespread looting is a much worse 'look'.

Don't give a damn about the 'look' of US troops guarding our streets and people.

Time to stop the total decline of our cities.



We are saying the same thing. I just don't want the military running through US cities, I am strange that way. Give Law Enforcement what they need.

How about taking from that 1T Defense budget and a few hundred million or so more for Law Enforcement. Maybe get beat cops back out in the neighborhoods. That is better than using military for law enforcement.

You keep believing that optics and look doesn't count. We run on 2 year elections, looks always matter.

'Looks' is what got us 8 years of Obama's destruction.

Looks is what caused reduced police presense, no bail legislation, legal pot, trans multilation, hundreds of thousands of mentally ill ( usually caused by drugs ) living and dying on the streets.

Results is what I care about...the quality of people's lives.

Just do it without armed troops walking the streets like Chile. There are some slopes that need to be watched. You guys seem quick to give up basic American standards for Trump. It usually doesn't end well.

You keep acting like Dems are the model and it is an either or. Fund the police and fed law enforcement and prosecute who they catch. Not that complex. Reagan lowered the crime rate by prosecuting and putting them away for their full sentence. DOn't ***** that Government spending is going up when you have to maintain prisons. I have no issues, prosecute and put them away.
KaiBear
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FLBear5630 said:

KaiBear said:

FLBear5630 said:

KaiBear said:

FLBear5630 said:

Redbrickbear said:



This is a great picture. I am 100% for US Marshalls and other Federal Law Enforcement personnel being used to augment local Police. Well done.

As I said, it is not the "What" it is the "How". There is a huge difference between Federal Law Enforcement and military. I am not for Military combat or support troops for law enforcement outside of MP units. Putting troops and civilians together is not a good idea nor look for the US.

More Law Enforcement trained people and less general troop movements.

Dead people and widespread looting is a much worse 'look'.

Don't give a damn about the 'look' of US troops guarding our streets and people.

Time to stop the total decline of our cities.



We are saying the same thing. I just don't want the military running through US cities, I am strange that way. Give Law Enforcement what they need.

How about taking from that 1T Defense budget and a few hundred million or so more for Law Enforcement. Maybe get beat cops back out in the neighborhoods. That is better than using military for law enforcement.

You keep believing that optics and look doesn't count. We run on 2 year elections, looks always matter.

'Looks' is what got us 8 years of Obama's destruction.

Looks is what caused reduced police presense, no bail legislation, legal pot, trans multilation, hundreds of thousands of mentally ill ( usually caused by drugs ) living and dying on the streets.

Results is what I care about...the quality of people's lives.

Just do it without armed troops walking the streets like Chile. There are some slopes that need to be watched. You guys seem quick to give up basic American standards for Trump. It usually doesn't end well.

You keep acting like Dems are the model and it is an either or. Fund the police and fed law enforcement and prosecute who they catch. Not that complex. Reagan lowered the crime rate by prosecuting and putting them away for their full sentence. DOn't ***** that Government spending is going up when you have to maintain prisons. I have no issues, prosecute and put them away.

Don't give a DAMN about troops helping police. Really think the victims of violent crime would not have wished those troops had been there ?






FLBear5630
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KaiBear said:

FLBear5630 said:

KaiBear said:

FLBear5630 said:

KaiBear said:

FLBear5630 said:

Redbrickbear said:



This is a great picture. I am 100% for US Marshalls and other Federal Law Enforcement personnel being used to augment local Police. Well done.

As I said, it is not the "What" it is the "How". There is a huge difference between Federal Law Enforcement and military. I am not for Military combat or support troops for law enforcement outside of MP units. Putting troops and civilians together is not a good idea nor look for the US.

More Law Enforcement trained people and less general troop movements.

Dead people and widespread looting is a much worse 'look'.

Don't give a damn about the 'look' of US troops guarding our streets and people.

Time to stop the total decline of our cities.



We are saying the same thing. I just don't want the military running through US cities, I am strange that way. Give Law Enforcement what they need.

How about taking from that 1T Defense budget and a few hundred million or so more for Law Enforcement. Maybe get beat cops back out in the neighborhoods. That is better than using military for law enforcement.

You keep believing that optics and look doesn't count. We run on 2 year elections, looks always matter.

'Looks' is what got us 8 years of Obama's destruction.

Looks is what caused reduced police presense, no bail legislation, legal pot, trans multilation, hundreds of thousands of mentally ill ( usually caused by drugs ) living and dying on the streets.

Results is what I care about...the quality of people's lives.

Just do it without armed troops walking the streets like Chile. There are some slopes that need to be watched. You guys seem quick to give up basic American standards for Trump. It usually doesn't end well.

You keep acting like Dems are the model and it is an either or. Fund the police and fed law enforcement and prosecute who they catch. Not that complex. Reagan lowered the crime rate by prosecuting and putting them away for their full sentence. DOn't ***** that Government spending is going up when you have to maintain prisons. I have no issues, prosecute and put them away.

Don't give a DAMN about troops helping police. Really think the victims of violent crime would not have wished those troops had been there ?








Yup, get those trains on time. Watch what you wish for...
Redbrickbear
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Porteroso said:

FLBear5630 said:

Redbrickbear said:



This is a great picture. I am 100% for US Marshalls and other Federal Law Enforcement personnel being used to augment local Police. Well done.

As I said, it is not the "What" it is the "How". There is a huge difference between Federal Law Enforcement and military. I am not for Military combat or support troops for law enforcement outside of MP units. Putting troops and civilians together is not a good idea nor look for the US.

More Law Enforcement trained people and less general troop movements.

Using the military to police the USA is illegal, amongst other things...


Did you spend 5 seconds investigating this?

[Insurrection Act:
This act, which dates back to 1792, provides an exception to Posse Comitatus, allowing the President to deploy the military domestically in cases of rebellion or to enforce federal law.

Other Exceptions:
Congress has also authorized the military to assist civilian law enforcement in specific situations, such as counter-drug operations or providing support for border security.

National Guard:
The Posse Comitatus Act does not apply to the National Guard when it is operating under state control. However, when the National Guard is federalized, the Posse Comitatus Act does apply.

Examples of Military Assistance:
The military can provide resources like equipment, training, and personnel to law enforcement agencies]
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Assassin
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boognish_bear said:



Blue State, wants to re-elect?
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KaiBear
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FLBear5630 said:

KaiBear said:

FLBear5630 said:

KaiBear said:

FLBear5630 said:

KaiBear said:

FLBear5630 said:

Redbrickbear said:



This is a great picture. I am 100% for US Marshalls and other Federal Law Enforcement personnel being used to augment local Police. Well done.

As I said, it is not the "What" it is the "How". There is a huge difference between Federal Law Enforcement and military. I am not for Military combat or support troops for law enforcement outside of MP units. Putting troops and civilians together is not a good idea nor look for the US.

More Law Enforcement trained people and less general troop movements.

Dead people and widespread looting is a much worse 'look'.

Don't give a damn about the 'look' of US troops guarding our streets and people.

Time to stop the total decline of our cities.



We are saying the same thing. I just don't want the military running through US cities, I am strange that way. Give Law Enforcement what they need.

How about taking from that 1T Defense budget and a few hundred million or so more for Law Enforcement. Maybe get beat cops back out in the neighborhoods. That is better than using military for law enforcement.

You keep believing that optics and look doesn't count. We run on 2 year elections, looks always matter.

'Looks' is what got us 8 years of Obama's destruction.

Looks is what caused reduced police presense, no bail legislation, legal pot, trans multilation, hundreds of thousands of mentally ill ( usually caused by drugs ) living and dying on the streets.

Results is what I care about...the quality of people's lives.

Just do it without armed troops walking the streets like Chile. There are some slopes that need to be watched. You guys seem quick to give up basic American standards for Trump. It usually doesn't end well.

You keep acting like Dems are the model and it is an either or. Fund the police and fed law enforcement and prosecute who they catch. Not that complex. Reagan lowered the crime rate by prosecuting and putting them away for their full sentence. DOn't ***** that Government spending is going up when you have to maintain prisons. I have no issues, prosecute and put them away.

Don't give a DAMN about troops helping police. Really think the victims of violent crime would not have wished those troops had been there ?








Yup, get those trains on time. Watch what you wish for...

If some gang banger has his gun lodged into your gut....really believe your priority will be train times ?
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KaiBear said:

FLBear5630 said:

KaiBear said:

FLBear5630 said:

KaiBear said:

FLBear5630 said:

KaiBear said:

FLBear5630 said:

Redbrickbear said:



This is a great picture. I am 100% for US Marshalls and other Federal Law Enforcement personnel being used to augment local Police. Well done.

As I said, it is not the "What" it is the "How". There is a huge difference between Federal Law Enforcement and military. I am not for Military combat or support troops for law enforcement outside of MP units. Putting troops and civilians together is not a good idea nor look for the US.

More Law Enforcement trained people and less general troop movements.

Dead people and widespread looting is a much worse 'look'.

Don't give a damn about the 'look' of US troops guarding our streets and people.

Time to stop the total decline of our cities.



We are saying the same thing. I just don't want the military running through US cities, I am strange that way. Give Law Enforcement what they need.

How about taking from that 1T Defense budget and a few hundred million or so more for Law Enforcement. Maybe get beat cops back out in the neighborhoods. That is better than using military for law enforcement.

You keep believing that optics and look doesn't count. We run on 2 year elections, looks always matter.

'Looks' is what got us 8 years of Obama's destruction.

Looks is what caused reduced police presense, no bail legislation, legal pot, trans multilation, hundreds of thousands of mentally ill ( usually caused by drugs ) living and dying on the streets.

Results is what I care about...the quality of people's lives.

Just do it without armed troops walking the streets like Chile. There are some slopes that need to be watched. You guys seem quick to give up basic American standards for Trump. It usually doesn't end well.

You keep acting like Dems are the model and it is an either or. Fund the police and fed law enforcement and prosecute who they catch. Not that complex. Reagan lowered the crime rate by prosecuting and putting them away for their full sentence. DOn't ***** that Government spending is going up when you have to maintain prisons. I have no issues, prosecute and put them away.

Don't give a DAMN about troops helping police. Really think the victims of violent crime would not have wished those troops had been there ?








Yup, get those trains on time. Watch what you wish for...

If some gang banger has his gun lodged into your gut....really believe your priority will be train times ?


We are talking policy, which has to look at the bigger picture and ramifications than 1 individuals' tactical situation. In that situation, you are not going to care if Jill Biden is holding a gun on the guy to rescue you. Although, I can't think of a worse situation for some on this Board than having to admit that Jill Biden saved their life...

If we want to get into individual tactical situations we can. We can start with population training on situational awareness and not putting yourself in bad situations. Let's look at the numbers of those in the situation you are talking about before making America a Police State.






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FLBear5630 said:

KaiBear said:

FLBear5630 said:

KaiBear said:

FLBear5630 said:

KaiBear said:

FLBear5630 said:

KaiBear said:

FLBear5630 said:

Redbrickbear said:



This is a great picture. I am 100% for US Marshalls and other Federal Law Enforcement personnel being used to augment local Police. Well done.

As I said, it is not the "What" it is the "How". There is a huge difference between Federal Law Enforcement and military. I am not for Military combat or support troops for law enforcement outside of MP units. Putting troops and civilians together is not a good idea nor look for the US.

More Law Enforcement trained people and less general troop movements.

Dead people and widespread looting is a much worse 'look'.

Don't give a damn about the 'look' of US troops guarding our streets and people.

Time to stop the total decline of our cities.



We are saying the same thing. I just don't want the military running through US cities, I am strange that way. Give Law Enforcement what they need.

How about taking from that 1T Defense budget and a few hundred million or so more for Law Enforcement. Maybe get beat cops back out in the neighborhoods. That is better than using military for law enforcement.

You keep believing that optics and look doesn't count. We run on 2 year elections, looks always matter.

'Looks' is what got us 8 years of Obama's destruction.

Looks is what caused reduced police presense, no bail legislation, legal pot, trans multilation, hundreds of thousands of mentally ill ( usually caused by drugs ) living and dying on the streets.

Results is what I care about...the quality of people's lives.

Just do it without armed troops walking the streets like Chile. There are some slopes that need to be watched. You guys seem quick to give up basic American standards for Trump. It usually doesn't end well.

You keep acting like Dems are the model and it is an either or. Fund the police and fed law enforcement and prosecute who they catch. Not that complex. Reagan lowered the crime rate by prosecuting and putting them away for their full sentence. DOn't ***** that Government spending is going up when you have to maintain prisons. I have no issues, prosecute and put them away.

Don't give a DAMN about troops helping police. Really think the victims of violent crime would not have wished those troops had been there ?








Yup, get those trains on time. Watch what you wish for...

If some gang banger has his gun lodged into your gut....really believe your priority will be train times ?


We are talking policy, which has to look at the bigger picture and ramifications than 1 individuals' tactical situation. In that situation, you are not going to care if Jill Biden is holding a gun on the guy to rescue you. Although, I can't think of a worse situation for some on this Board than having to admit that Jill Biden saved their life...

If we want to get into individual tactical situations we can. We can start with population training on situational awareness and not putting yourself in bad situations. Let's look at the numbers of those in the situation you are talking about before making America a Police State.









History has repeatedly shown that only strong action stops violent crime. sprees.

Especially violence perpetrated by those who feel ENTITLED to do so.

Want to stop looting , arson and random killing ?

Shoot them on sight.

Stops such behavior throughout any city like magic.
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Jacques Strap said:





It can be done in our big cities too. We need the political will to do it.
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Crime has been going down in DC. Troops on our streets speaks of military threats. Fund the police who are trained, not the military.
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Redbrickbear said:



So our highly trained military will be erasing graffiti?
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Waco1947 said:

Redbrickbear said:



So our highly trained military will be erasing graffiti?

Good point. Really makes you wonder why the highly trained democrats in DC couldn't figure out how to do it.
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Waco1947 said:

Crime has been going down in DC. Troops on our streets speaks of military threats. Fund the police who are trained, not the military.

Remember, you are the party of defunding the police.

Nice try.
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Waco1947 said:

Crime has been going down in DC. Troops on our streets speaks of military threats. Fund the police who are trained, not the military.

You previously supported defunding police.

What changed ?

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Waco1947 said:

Crime has been going down in DC. Troops on our streets speaks of military threats. Fund the police who are trained, not the military.

Like they've funded them so far? Please think before you post.

And remember it was the liberal Democrats who screamed "DEFUND THE POLICE"
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Waco1947 said:

Crime has been going down in DC. Troops on our streets speaks of military threats. Fund the police who are trained, not the military.


A paragon of the divide between the needs of the poor and the Luxury Beliefs of the elite.
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Harrison Bergeron said:

Waco1947 said:

Crime has been going down in DC. Troops on our streets speaks of military threats. Fund the police who are trained, not the military.


A paragon of the divide between the needs of the poor and the Luxury Beliefs of the elite.Huh?

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Porteroso
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Redbrickbear said:

Porteroso said:

FLBear5630 said:

Redbrickbear said:



This is a great picture. I am 100% for US Marshalls and other Federal Law Enforcement personnel being used to augment local Police. Well done.

As I said, it is not the "What" it is the "How". There is a huge difference between Federal Law Enforcement and military. I am not for Military combat or support troops for law enforcement outside of MP units. Putting troops and civilians together is not a good idea nor look for the US.

More Law Enforcement trained people and less general troop movements.

Using the military to police the USA is illegal, amongst other things...


Did you spend 5 seconds investigating this?

[Insurrection Act:
This act, which dates back to 1792, provides an exception to Posse Comitatus, allowing the President to deploy the military domestically in cases of rebellion or to enforce federal law.

Other Exceptions:
Congress has also authorized the military to assist civilian law enforcement in specific situations, such as counter-drug operations or providing support for border security.

National Guard:
The Posse Comitatus Act does not apply to the National Guard when it is operating under state control. However, when the National Guard is federalized, the Posse Comitatus Act does apply.

Examples of Military Assistance:
The military can provide resources like equipment, training, and personnel to law enforcement agencies]

Goodness, just use your brain. Trump is talking about a full federal takeover of the police forces of major US cities. That's illegal! It has never been done because it's illegal! There are obviously exceptions but what he is talking about is not one of those rare instances, he's talking about the federal government taking over the policing of cities! That's illegal! Got it?
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Porteroso said:

Redbrickbear said:

Porteroso said:

FLBear5630 said:

Redbrickbear said:



This is a great picture. I am 100% for US Marshalls and other Federal Law Enforcement personnel being used to augment local Police. Well done.

As I said, it is not the "What" it is the "How". There is a huge difference between Federal Law Enforcement and military. I am not for Military combat or support troops for law enforcement outside of MP units. Putting troops and civilians together is not a good idea nor look for the US.

More Law Enforcement trained people and less general troop movements.

Using the military to police the USA is illegal, amongst other things...


Did you spend 5 seconds investigating this?

[Insurrection Act:
This act, which dates back to 1792, provides an exception to Posse Comitatus, allowing the President to deploy the military domestically in cases of rebellion or to enforce federal law.

Other Exceptions:
Congress has also authorized the military to assist civilian law enforcement in specific situations, such as counter-drug operations or providing support for border security.

National Guard:
The Posse Comitatus Act does not apply to the National Guard when it is operating under state control. However, when the National Guard is federalized, the Posse Comitatus Act does apply.

Examples of Military Assistance:
The military can provide resources like equipment, training, and personnel to law enforcement agencies]

Goodness, just use your brain. Trump is talking about a full federal takeover of the police forces of major US cities. That's illegal! It has never been done because it's illegal! There are obviously exceptions but what he is talking about is not one of those rare instances, he's talking about the federal government taking over the policing of cities! That's illegal! Got it?


We are talking about DC

Its LEGAL for him to be involved in policing DC

That is what we are discussing on this thread.


Now if you want to have another thread discussion about potential Federal involvement in other cities then we can have a different discussion.

But right now we are dealing with Washington DC....a federal district....and one that Congress has authorized the President to have some control over.
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Redbrickbear said:

Porteroso said:

Redbrickbear said:

Porteroso said:

FLBear5630 said:

Redbrickbear said:



This is a great picture. I am 100% for US Marshalls and other Federal Law Enforcement personnel being used to augment local Police. Well done.

As I said, it is not the "What" it is the "How". There is a huge difference between Federal Law Enforcement and military. I am not for Military combat or support troops for law enforcement outside of MP units. Putting troops and civilians together is not a good idea nor look for the US.

More Law Enforcement trained people and less general troop movements.

Using the military to police the USA is illegal, amongst other things...


Did you spend 5 seconds investigating this?

[Insurrection Act:
This act, which dates back to 1792, provides an exception to Posse Comitatus, allowing the President to deploy the military domestically in cases of rebellion or to enforce federal law.

Other Exceptions:
Congress has also authorized the military to assist civilian law enforcement in specific situations, such as counter-drug operations or providing support for border security.

National Guard:
The Posse Comitatus Act does not apply to the National Guard when it is operating under state control. However, when the National Guard is federalized, the Posse Comitatus Act does apply.

Examples of Military Assistance:
The military can provide resources like equipment, training, and personnel to law enforcement agencies]

Goodness, just use your brain. Trump is talking about a full federal takeover of the police forces of major US cities. That's illegal! It has never been done because it's illegal! There are obviously exceptions but what he is talking about is not one of those rare instances, he's talking about the federal government taking over the policing of cities! That's illegal! Got it?


We are talking about DC

Its LEGAL for him to be involved in policing DC

That is what we are discussing on this thread.


Now if you want to have another thread discussion about potential Federal involvement in other cities then we can have a different discussion.

But right now we are dealing with Washington DC....a federal district....and one that Congress has authorized the President to have some control over.

It's Porteroso dude. What do you expect?
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Porteroso said:

Redbrickbear said:

Porteroso said:

FLBear5630 said:

Redbrickbear said:



This is a great picture. I am 100% for US Marshalls and other Federal Law Enforcement personnel being used to augment local Police. Well done.

As I said, it is not the "What" it is the "How". There is a huge difference between Federal Law Enforcement and military. I am not for Military combat or support troops for law enforcement outside of MP units. Putting troops and civilians together is not a good idea nor look for the US.

More Law Enforcement trained people and less general troop movements.

Using the military to police the USA is illegal, amongst other things...


Did you spend 5 seconds investigating this?

[Insurrection Act:
This act, which dates back to 1792, provides an exception to Posse Comitatus, allowing the President to deploy the military domestically in cases of rebellion or to enforce federal law.

Other Exceptions:
Congress has also authorized the military to assist civilian law enforcement in specific situations, such as counter-drug operations or providing support for border security.

National Guard:
The Posse Comitatus Act does not apply to the National Guard when it is operating under state control. However, when the National Guard is federalized, the Posse Comitatus Act does apply.

Examples of Military Assistance:
The military can provide resources like equipment, training, and personnel to law enforcement agencies]

Goodness, just use your brain. Trump is talking about a full federal takeover of the police forces of major US cities.

LOL! Bless your heart. One of the most basic, fundamental requirements of government is to protect its citizens. That is supposedly why citizens pay taxes. If your beloved Blue states aren't going to do their job, Donald Trump will do it for them.

Still have no idea why you people would rather have chaos and anarchy instead of law & order. You should get really nervous when the "well organized militia" is fed up with the lawlessness.

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Waco1947 said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

Waco1947 said:

Crime has been going down in DC. Troops on our streets speaks of military threats. Fund the police who are trained, not the military.


A paragon of the divide between the needs of the poor and the Luxury Beliefs of the elite.Huh?




Residents in high crime areas welcome the added security. It is the rich people in Georgetown throwing a hissy fit.
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Redbrickbear said:

Porteroso said:

Redbrickbear said:

Porteroso said:

FLBear5630 said:

Redbrickbear said:



This is a great picture. I am 100% for US Marshalls and other Federal Law Enforcement personnel being used to augment local Police. Well done.

As I said, it is not the "What" it is the "How". There is a huge difference between Federal Law Enforcement and military. I am not for Military combat or support troops for law enforcement outside of MP units. Putting troops and civilians together is not a good idea nor look for the US.

More Law Enforcement trained people and less general troop movements.

Using the military to police the USA is illegal, amongst other things...


Did you spend 5 seconds investigating this?

[Insurrection Act:
This act, which dates back to 1792, provides an exception to Posse Comitatus, allowing the President to deploy the military domestically in cases of rebellion or to enforce federal law.

Other Exceptions:
Congress has also authorized the military to assist civilian law enforcement in specific situations, such as counter-drug operations or providing support for border security.

National Guard:
The Posse Comitatus Act does not apply to the National Guard when it is operating under state control. However, when the National Guard is federalized, the Posse Comitatus Act does apply.

Examples of Military Assistance:
The military can provide resources like equipment, training, and personnel to law enforcement agencies]

Goodness, just use your brain. Trump is talking about a full federal takeover of the police forces of major US cities. That's illegal! It has never been done because it's illegal! There are obviously exceptions but what he is talking about is not one of those rare instances, he's talking about the federal government taking over the policing of cities! That's illegal! Got it?


We are talking about DC

Its LEGAL for him to be involved in policing DC

That is what we are discussing on this thread.


Now if you want to have another thread discussion about potential Federal involvement in other cities then we can have a different discussion.

But right now we are dealing with Washington DC....a federal district....and one that Congress has authorized the President to have some control over.

No, I brought up other cities. Other being other than DC. And yes that is perfectly legal. What would not be legal, is what Trump suggested, that they take over other cities.
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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

Porteroso said:

Redbrickbear said:

Porteroso said:

FLBear5630 said:

Redbrickbear said:



This is a great picture. I am 100% for US Marshalls and other Federal Law Enforcement personnel being used to augment local Police. Well done.

As I said, it is not the "What" it is the "How". There is a huge difference between Federal Law Enforcement and military. I am not for Military combat or support troops for law enforcement outside of MP units. Putting troops and civilians together is not a good idea nor look for the US.

More Law Enforcement trained people and less general troop movements.

Using the military to police the USA is illegal, amongst other things...


Did you spend 5 seconds investigating this?

[Insurrection Act:
This act, which dates back to 1792, provides an exception to Posse Comitatus, allowing the President to deploy the military domestically in cases of rebellion or to enforce federal law.

Other Exceptions:
Congress has also authorized the military to assist civilian law enforcement in specific situations, such as counter-drug operations or providing support for border security.

National Guard:
The Posse Comitatus Act does not apply to the National Guard when it is operating under state control. However, when the National Guard is federalized, the Posse Comitatus Act does apply.

Examples of Military Assistance:
The military can provide resources like equipment, training, and personnel to law enforcement agencies]

Goodness, just use your brain. Trump is talking about a full federal takeover of the police forces of major US cities.

LOL! Bless your heart. One of the most basic, fundamental requirements of government is to protect its citizens. That is supposedly why citizens pay taxes. If your beloved Blue states aren't going to do their job, Donald Trump will do it for them.

Still have no idea why you people would rather have chaos and anarchy instead of law & order. You should get really nervous when the "well organized militia" is fed up with the lawlessness.



Bless my heart for thinking the Founders had some good points regarding limits on federal power? Lol dont be dumb like these other wankers R2D2, the federal takeover of cities is a very bad thing. Just imagine Democrats doing it, taking over the police forces of Republican cities, if you can't see why.

Policing doesn't need to be yet another political football we get whiplashed with every 4 or 8 years.
 
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