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A high ranking politician just casually mentioning jailing citizens for "misinformation"...

One year ago, Hillary Clinton went on TV to call for jail for posting "misinfo" and got 0 media flack pic.twitter.com/RN3VmJJk1H

— End Wokeness (@EndWokeness) September 19, 2025

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Fascists are gonna act like fascists.

It's disappointing to see people in the right advocating censorship in a knee-jerk reaction to events. The cancellation of Colbert & Kimmel are NOT examples of censorship, though. They are sensible business decisions.

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🔴WARNING: DISTURBING CONTENT.
Christian author #FrankTurek, who was the man in the white hat behind Charlie when shot, explains that what happened immediately after Charlie Kirk was assassinated, getting him into the SUV is heartbreaking.#CharlieKirk #CharlieKirkshot… pic.twitter.com/f4Rzngnfgs

— Ms_Harmony ツ (@Ms_Harmony58) September 18, 2025

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I don't find it disturbing at all. It's a big graphic but it's also comforting to know how God acted. Once again God's power, compassion, and love are clear.

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Women should choose a family over a career, it's more fulfilling
Get married and have lots of kids
Human life is precious at the start of conception
People shouldn't be judged based on skin color
Our borders should be secure
Nobody is born in the wrong body
Jesus loves you

Certainly positions up for debate but hardly 'hate speech' or 'fascist'

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Some desperate souls are now suggesting Charlie advocated genocude.

Anything to get noticed .

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"Genocide" now defined as:
-not affirming someone's gender identity
-refusing to endorse minors getting hormone or surgery for gender reassignment
-not supporting men competing in women's sports or women's locker rooms

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the notion that "words are violence" is a bedrock belief of critical theories.....i.e. "deadnaming" a ****** by calling them by their birth name is considered as offensive as a physical attack.

Post-modernism first and foremost seeks to seize control of language to control thought and action.

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How Orwellian. A form of Newspeak

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Did I miss anything?
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The Jimmy Kimmel suspension

A massive Public uprising triggered individual complaints to advertisers about Jimmy Kimmel.

The varied advertisers complained to their local and national syndicators about Jimmy Kimmel

The various local and national syndicators went to Disney/ABC and complained.

Disney/ABC has been documented saying that in 2026, Kimmel was going away.

Disney/ABC was losing $20-30 million per year on Kimmel

Kimmel goes bezerk on air, attacks half the nation, MAGA/Trump supporters

Disney/ABC takes advantage of this and suspends Kimmel to stop the negative cash flow

Liberals call this an attack against "Freedom of Speech" although it's simple math

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Leftists have trouble with math. Many think 2+2=5.

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Nehls to Kash Patel: "I would say if Charlie Kirk lived in Biblical times, he'd have been the 13th disciple." pic.twitter.com/lPDEUXALl9

— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) September 17, 2025

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funny, before he was killed I never heard of Charlie Kirk. Now he is the 13th Apostle?

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You never heard of Charlie Kirk?
You really need to question your sources of information. The left wing demoncrat media has you right where they want you.... isolated away from the truth and only hearing their propaganda.

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Huh? I don't hang out on college campuses nor am I in the demographic he targeted. Shooter, you cruising the college scenes? : )

Before his killing I can't remember the last time Charlie Kirk was in the Business, international or sports news that I typically would listen to.

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He was a speaker at the national convention.
He has been on multiple talk shows and news shows including CNN, MSNBC, Fox News, BBC, etc
He's not just some kid on college campuses, he's been on all over the place.

Your sources have been shielding you from the truth.
Get help

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Because I didn't follow Charlie Kirk I need to get help? You guys go have really gone off the edge

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no, because you didn't know anything about him means you are not terribly well versed in current affairs.

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Not very well versed in the Right Wing dogma. Yeah. I tend to get my information from Wall St Journal, Reuters, Bloomberg, BBC for International.

What I don't rely on is editiorials and places like FOX, CNN, Breitbart or other opinion based mouthpieces.

But, if you keep telling us what is acceptable and what isn't maybe you can get the "vermin eradicated..."

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Sad thing is that of all the people in this thread, you appear to be the one who needed to listen to Charlie the most.
You need an injection of truth to heal you from all the lies you are believing.
Your posts here make that obviously clear.

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Geez, you guys got it bad. Not listening to or knowing about Charlie Kirk is not a crime. Nor is listening to this guy a badge of intellectualism. There are a lot of people that speak that you and I are not aware. Some guy that debated college kids is not high on my list of reading material.

The guy that killed him should be prosecuted and if found guilty get the appropriate penalty, including death depending on the law of the state. But, that doesn't make Kirk more than he was in terms of "must read", Nobody should be killed for speech. Feel bad for his family, just as I would for anyone wrongfully killed.

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Nehls to Kash Patel: "I would say if Charlie Kirk lived in Biblical times, he'd have been the 13th disciple." pic.twitter.com/lPDEUXALl9

— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) September 17, 2025

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funny, before he was killed I never heard of Charlie Kirk. Now he is the 13th Apostle?

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You never heard of Charlie Kirk?
You really need to question your sources of information. The left wing demoncrat media has you right where they want you.... isolated away from the truth and only hearing their propaganda.

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Huh? I don't hang out on college campuses nor am I in the demographic he targeted. Shooter, you cruising the college scenes? : )

Before his killing I can't remember the last time Charlie Kirk was in the Business, international or sports news that I typically would listen to.

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He was a speaker at the national convention.
He has been on multiple talk shows and news shows including CNN, MSNBC, Fox News, BBC, etc
He's not just some kid on college campuses, he's been on all over the place.

Your sources have been shielding you from the truth.
Get help

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Because I didn't follow Charlie Kirk I need to get help? You guys go have really gone off the edge

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no, because you didn't know anything about him means you are not terribly well versed in current affairs.

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Not very well versed in the Right Wing dogma. Yeah. I tend to get my information from Wall St Journal, Reuters, Bloomberg, BBC for International.

What I don't rely on is editiorials and places like FOX, CNN, Breitbart or other opinion based mouthpieces.

But, if you keep telling us what is acceptable and what isn't maybe you can get the "vermin eradicated..."

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Sad thing is that of all the people in this thread, you appear to be the one who needed to listen to Charlie the most.
You need an injection of truth to heal you from all the lies you are believing.
Your posts here make that obviously clear.

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Geez, you guys got it bad. Not listening to or knowing about Charlie Kirk is not a crime. Nor is listening to this guy a badge of intellectualism. There are a lot of people that speak that you and I are not aware. Some guy that debated college kids is not high on my list of reading material.

The guy that killed him should be prosecuted and if found guilty get the appropriate penalty, including death depending on the law of the state. But, that doesn't make Kirk more than he was in terms of "must read", Nobody should be killed for speech. Feel bad for his family, just as I would for anyone wrongfully killed.

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There is a solution. I did a thread on Charlie Kirk videos. They are addictive. I ended up watching every single one of them, all the way through, I hadnt seen any of them all the way through before he was murdered by the gay man. Once you do that, my guess is that you will have a different view on Charlie Kirk. This was a great man. . https://sicem365.com/forums/7/topics/153986

CNN’s @VanJones68 reveals Charlie Kirk had messaged him the day before he was assassinated to invite Jones on his show for “a respectful conversation about crime and race” in light of their beef about the Charlotte light rail murder pic.twitter.com/FvoOX1Tdp1

— Curtis Houck (@CurtisHouck) September 20, 2025

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Women should choose a family over a career, it's more fulfilling
Get married and have lots of kids
Human life is precious at the start of conception
People shouldn't be judged based on skin color
Our borders should be secure
Nobody is born in the wrong body
Jesus loves you

Certainly positions up for debate but hardly 'hate speech' or 'fascist'

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Actually, the opposite of hate speech or fascism.
Curious how often the people who accuse others of "hate speech" are the most hateful people around. Some turn to violence.

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It is not so much that they "turn" to violence, it is that they see no difference between words and violence. They are wrong, but they believe what Injustice said is violence. When you believe that verbal disagreement is violence, then it is a very short path to physical violence. One of the problems among many that we face is a philosophy that argues that words of disagreement are violence. This is the justification used by Charlie Kirk's killer and by many of those who are happy that he was murdered: he had it coming.

Assassin said:

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Did I miss anything?
====================================

The Jimmy Kimmel suspension

A massive Public uprising triggered individual complaints to advertisers about Jimmy Kimmel.

The varied advertisers complained to their local and national syndicators about Jimmy Kimmel

The various local and national syndicators went to Disney/ABC and complained.

Disney/ABC has been documented saying that in 2026, Kimmel was going away.

Disney/ABC was losing $20-30 million per year on Kimmel

Kimmel goes bezerk on air, attacks half the nation, MAGA/Trump supporters

Disney/ABC takes advantage of this and suspends Kimmel to stop the negative cash flow

Liberals call this an attack against "Freedom of Speech" although it's simple math

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Yeah why do libtards talk about freedom of speech? This is a TV show. It was losing big money. It wasn't funny. How can you lose that big of $$$ and keep it going? Anyway, back to freedom of speech....I'l bet big $ it doesn't mean you get to KEEP a TV show. It just means the government can't JAIL you for your speech. Kimmel N Bits has the same free speech I do.

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Nehls to Kash Patel: "I would say if Charlie Kirk lived in Biblical times, he'd have been the 13th disciple." pic.twitter.com/lPDEUXALl9

— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) September 17, 2025

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funny, before he was killed I never heard of Charlie Kirk. Now he is the 13th Apostle?

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You never heard of Charlie Kirk?
You really need to question your sources of information. The left wing demoncrat media has you right where they want you.... isolated away from the truth and only hearing their propaganda.

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Huh? I don't hang out on college campuses nor am I in the demographic he targeted. Shooter, you cruising the college scenes? : )

Before his killing I can't remember the last time Charlie Kirk was in the Business, international or sports news that I typically would listen to.

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He was a speaker at the national convention.
He has been on multiple talk shows and news shows including CNN, MSNBC, Fox News, BBC, etc
He's not just some kid on college campuses, he's been on all over the place.

Your sources have been shielding you from the truth.
Get help

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Because I didn't follow Charlie Kirk I need to get help? You guys go have really gone off the edge

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no, because you didn't know anything about him means you are not terribly well versed in current affairs.

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Not very well versed in the Right Wing dogma. Yeah. I tend to get my information from Wall St Journal, Reuters, Bloomberg, BBC for International.

What I don't rely on is editiorials and places like FOX, CNN, Breitbart or other opinion based mouthpieces.

But, if you keep telling us what is acceptable and what isn't maybe you can get the "vermin eradicated..."

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Sad thing is that of all the people in this thread, you appear to be the one who needed to listen to Charlie the most.
You need an injection of truth to heal you from all the lies you are believing.
Your posts here make that obviously clear.

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Yep. A guy who clearly considers himself a grounded centrist thinks free speech, moral argument, traditional family, faith-based value system, biology trumps identity, etc….are "right wing dogma."

I think this has been posted but I can't stop thinking about it.

Let kids be kids, keep them out of your adult bull*****

Disturbing footage of 2 children wishing death on Donald Trump and JD Vance.

Awesome parenting. 😒 This is child abuse, isn't it? pic.twitter.com/9weThpa337

— Patriotic 🇬🇧 Nation 🟣 (@HoodedClaw1974) September 15, 2025

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For the candlelight vigil, vs the other, can Walz's wife smell the smoke as well from her open window?

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Women should choose a family over a career, it's more fulfilling
Get married and have lots of kids
Human life is precious at the start of conception
People shouldn't be judged based on skin color
Our borders should be secure
Nobody is born in the wrong body
Jesus loves you

Certainly positions up for debate but hardly 'hate speech' or 'fascist'

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Some desperate souls are now suggesting Charlie advocated genocude.

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Said no one ever.

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Women should choose a family over a career, it's more fulfilling
Get married and have lots of kids
Human life is precious at the start of conception
People shouldn't be judged based on skin color
Our borders should be secure
Nobody is born in the wrong body
Jesus loves you

Certainly positions up for debate but hardly 'hate speech' or 'fascist'

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Some desperate souls are now suggesting Charlie advocated genocude.

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Said no one ever.

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Supported....defended...

He supported the genocide in Gaza #CharlieKirkshot pic.twitter.com/Q32rEzSKZO

— Babagee🌐 (@RealYahyausman) September 11, 2025

This Is How Charlie Kirk Defended GEN0CIDE. pic.twitter.com/b6MVek1FcC

— The Resonance (@Partisan_12) September 11, 2025

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Women should choose a family over a career, it's more fulfilling
Get married and have lots of kids
Human life is precious at the start of conception
People shouldn't be judged based on skin color
Our borders should be secure
Nobody is born in the wrong body
Jesus loves you

Certainly positions up for debate but hardly 'hate speech' or 'fascist'

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Some desperate souls are now suggesting Charlie advocated genocude.

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Said no one ever.

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Debunked.

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New bill filed in Oklahoma that says every public university in the state must have a "Charlie Kirk Memorial Plaza" with a statue of Kirk and his family. pic.twitter.com/WGWxzW9efw

— Jeffrey Sachs (@JeffreyASachs) September 19, 2025

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I wonder what they'll do with all of those statues when they figure out Charlie was converting to Catholicism and distancing himself from white supremacy and genocide. Could be very awkward.

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Lol. And I hear Candace Owens converted him.

In other news, he also believed Mrs. Macron is a man and a Jewish cabal is running the country.

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National Catholic Register
September 19, 2025

Slain conservative activist Charlie Kirk was reportedly strongly considering becoming Catholic just prior to his assassination, according to a bishop who spoke to him shortly before his killing.

Robert Brennan, a Los Angeles-based writer and the brother of Fresno, California, Bishop Joseph Brennan, said in a Sept. 18 column in the Los Angeles archdiocesan newspaper Angelus that Kirk had a "personal exchange" with the California prelate about a week before Kirk's murder at Utah Valley University on Sept. 10.

The writer Brennan, who said Bishop Brennan gave him permission to share the story, wrote that Kirk had spoken to the prelate at a prayer breakfast in Visalia. The conservative activist "told the bishop about his Catholic wife and children and how he attended Mass with them."

Kirk acknowledged "speculation" about his possible interest in becoming Catholic, Brennan wrote in Angelus; he subsequently told Bishop Brennan: "I'm this close" to converting.

In his Angelus column Brennan pointed to a recent video Kirk made in which he acknowledged some "big disagreements" with Catholicism but claimed that Protestants "under-value" the Blessed Mother.

"We don't talk about Mary enough. We don't venerate her enough," Kirk said, arguing that Mary is "the solution" to "toxic feminism" in the U.S.

"[H]ow fitting one of Charlie Kirk's last videos was about the preeminent mediatrix of all time and space," Robert Brennan wrote in Angelus. "In his own way he was reaching out to her, and now, I am convinced, she is returning the favor."

Prominent Catholics around the world have joined in the chorus of voices mourning Kirk's death in the days since he was killed. German Catholic Cardinal Gerhard Ludwig Mller referred to Kirk this week as "a martyr for Jesus Christ" and condemned the "satanic celebration" of his death by some of his detractors.

Kristan Hawkins, the president of Students for Life of America and Students for Life Action and a close friend of Kirk's, said on Sept. 13 that the activist's death "will be a turning point" for the country.

And Heritage Foundation President Kevin Roberts said Kirk's activism "restored optimism about the American future for millions of Americans."

https://www.ncregister.com/cna/report-charlie-kirk-was-this-close-to-becoming-catholic-just-prior-to-his-death

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Uh huh.

He was soooo close. And now according to Catholic doctrine, he's likely burning in hell.

Dang.

But hopefully he at least rid himself of that white supremacy you believe permeates the Republican Party.

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Women should choose a family over a career, it's more fulfilling
Get married and have lots of kids
Human life is precious at the start of conception
People shouldn't be judged based on skin color
Our borders should be secure
Nobody is born in the wrong body
Jesus loves you

Certainly positions up for debate but hardly 'hate speech' or 'fascist'

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Some desperate souls are now suggesting Charlie advocated genocude.

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Said no one ever.

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Supported....defended...

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Talking about this thread.

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New bill filed in Oklahoma that says every public university in the state must have a "Charlie Kirk Memorial Plaza" with a statue of Kirk and his family. pic.twitter.com/WGWxzW9efw

— Jeffrey Sachs (@JeffreyASachs) September 19, 2025

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I wonder what they'll do with all of those statues when they figure out Charlie was converting to Catholicism and distancing himself from white supremacy and genocide. Could be very awkward.

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no, what's awkward is carrying leftist memes that he was converting to Catholicism (he wasn't, not that it would matter to most people (me included) a whit) and he had no need to distance himself from things he routinely denounced like white supremacy and genocide.

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Pro forma denunciations are so easy that even you can do them. Pushing back when and where it matters is a different thing.

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I'm not finding evidence he was converting to Catholicism, just that he was respectful towards Catholics and admired the Church's ritual mass. But I'm curious; would you have had a problem with him if he became Catholic? You seem to have an unusual focus on his relationship to Catholics and Catholicism for some reason.

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Yeah, I'm totally anti-Catholic. It's part of my Marxist worldview.

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Your sarcasm doesn't explain why you focused on his relationship with the Catholic Church.
I'm wondering why you think it's important.

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It suggests a growing distance between TPUSA and the Christian Nationalist element of the GOP. His wife evidently is Catholic and is taking leadership of the group, so it will be interesting to see where it goes.

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New bill filed in Oklahoma that says every public university in the state must have a "Charlie Kirk Memorial Plaza" with a statue of Kirk and his family. pic.twitter.com/WGWxzW9efw

— Jeffrey Sachs (@JeffreyASachs) September 19, 2025

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I wonder what they'll do with all of those statues when they figure out Charlie was converting to Catholicism and distancing himself from white supremacy and genocide. Could be very awkward.

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Lol. And I hear Candace Owens converted him.

In other news, he also believed Mrs. Macron is a man and a Jewish cabal is running the country.

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National Catholic Register
September 19, 2025

Slain conservative activist Charlie Kirk was reportedly strongly considering becoming Catholic just prior to his assassination, according to a bishop who spoke to him shortly before his killing.

Robert Brennan, a Los Angeles-based writer and the brother of Fresno, California, Bishop Joseph Brennan, said in a Sept. 18 column in the Los Angeles archdiocesan newspaper Angelus that Kirk had a "personal exchange" with the California prelate about a week before Kirk's murder at Utah Valley University on Sept. 10.

The writer Brennan, who said Bishop Brennan gave him permission to share the story, wrote that Kirk had spoken to the prelate at a prayer breakfast in Visalia. The conservative activist "told the bishop about his Catholic wife and children and how he attended Mass with them."

Kirk acknowledged "speculation" about his possible interest in becoming Catholic, Brennan wrote in Angelus; he subsequently told Bishop Brennan: "I'm this close" to converting.

In his Angelus column Brennan pointed to a recent video Kirk made in which he acknowledged some "big disagreements" with Catholicism but claimed that Protestants "under-value" the Blessed Mother.

"We don't talk about Mary enough. We don't venerate her enough," Kirk said, arguing that Mary is "the solution" to "toxic feminism" in the U.S.

"[H]ow fitting one of Charlie Kirk's last videos was about the preeminent mediatrix of all time and space," Robert Brennan wrote in Angelus. "In his own way he was reaching out to her, and now, I am convinced, she is returning the favor."

Prominent Catholics around the world have joined in the chorus of voices mourning Kirk's death in the days since he was killed. German Catholic Cardinal Gerhard Ludwig Mller referred to Kirk this week as "a martyr for Jesus Christ" and condemned the "satanic celebration" of his death by some of his detractors.

Kristan Hawkins, the president of Students for Life of America and Students for Life Action and a close friend of Kirk's, said on Sept. 13 that the activist's death "will be a turning point" for the country.

And Heritage Foundation President Kevin Roberts said Kirk's activism "restored optimism about the American future for millions of Americans."

https://www.ncregister.com/cna/report-charlie-kirk-was-this-close-to-becoming-catholic-just-prior-to-his-death

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And now according to Catholic doctrine, he's likely burning in hell.

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Not really.

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Assassin said:

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Did I miss anything?
====================================

The Jimmy Kimmel suspension

A massive Public uprising triggered individual complaints to advertisers about Jimmy Kimmel.

The varied advertisers complained to their local and national syndicators about Jimmy Kimmel

The various local and national syndicators went to Disney/ABC and complained.

Disney/ABC has been documented saying that in 2026, Kimmel was going away.

Disney/ABC was losing $20-30 million per year on Kimmel

Kimmel goes bezerk on air, attacks half the nation, MAGA/Trump supporters

Disney/ABC takes advantage of this and suspends Kimmel to stop the negative cash flow

Liberals call this an attack against "Freedom of Speech" although it's simple math

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Yeah why do libtards talk about freedom of speech? This is a TV show. It was losing big money. It wasn't funny. How can you lose that big of $$$ and keep it going? Anyway, back to freedom of speech....I'l bet big $ it doesn't mean you get to KEEP a TV show. It just means the government can't JAIL you for your speech. Kimmel N Bits has the same free speech I do.

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FCC leveled threats against ABC affiliates. Ted Cruz agees

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Women should choose a family over a career, it's more fulfilling
Get married and have lots of kids
Human life is precious at the start of conception
People shouldn't be judged based on skin color
Our borders should be secure
Nobody is born in the wrong body
Jesus loves you

Certainly positions up for debate but hardly 'hate speech' or 'fascist'

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Actually, the opposite of hate speech or fascism.
Curious how often the people who accuse others of "hate speech" are the most hateful people around. Some turn to violence.

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It is not so much that they "turn" to violence, it is that they see no difference between words and violence. They are wrong, but they believe what Injustice said is violence. When you believe that verbal disagreement is violence, then it is a very short path to physical violence. One of the problems among many that we face is a philosophy that argues that words of disagreement are violence. This is the justification used by Charlie Kirk's killer and by many of those who are happy that he was murdered: he had it coming.

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True but they are not fooling anyone but themselves and the mental cases. That's why the Dems shard some blame for Charlie's murder: inciting violence is a felony and should be. Leftists never take responsibility for their actions unless forced to and then they whine and moan like they are the victims (see Left's reaction to Kimmel's cancellation). They act like toddlers because emotionally they are toddlers.

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Women should choose a family over a career, it's more fulfilling
Get married and have lots of kids
Human life is precious at the start of conception
People shouldn't be judged based on skin color
Our borders should be secure
Nobody is born in the wrong body
Jesus loves you

Certainly positions up for debate but hardly 'hate speech' or 'fascist'

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Actually, the opposite of hate speech or fascism.
Curious how often the people who accuse others of "hate speech" are the most hateful people around. Some turn to violence.

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It is not so much that they "turn" to violence, it is that they see no difference between words and violence. They are wrong, but they believe what Injustice said is violence. When you believe that verbal disagreement is violence, then it is a very short path to physical violence. One of the problems among many that we face is a philosophy that argues that words of disagreement are violence. This is the justification used by Charlie Kirk's killer and by many of those who are happy that he was murdered: he had it coming.

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True but they are not fooling anyone but themselves and the mental cases. That's why the Dems shard some blame gif Charlie's murder: inciting violence is a felony and should be. Leftists never take responsibility for their actions unless forced to and then they whine and moan like they are the victims (see Left's reaction to Kimmel's cancellation). They act like toddlers because emotionally they are toddlers.

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Are you aware of a man named Trump?

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Assassin said:

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Did I miss anything?
====================================

The Jimmy Kimmel suspension

A massive Public uprising triggered individual complaints to advertisers about Jimmy Kimmel.

The varied advertisers complained to their local and national syndicators about Jimmy Kimmel

The various local and national syndicators went to Disney/ABC and complained.

Disney/ABC has been documented saying that in 2026, Kimmel was going away.

Disney/ABC was losing $20-30 million per year on Kimmel

Kimmel goes bezerk on air, attacks half the nation, MAGA/Trump supporters

Disney/ABC takes advantage of this and suspends Kimmel to stop the negative cash flow

Liberals call this an attack against "Freedom of Speech" although it's simple math

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Yeah why do libtards talk about freedom of speech? This is a TV show. It was losing big money. It wasn't funny. How can you lose that big of $$$ and keep it going? Anyway, back to freedom of speech....I'l bet big $ it doesn't mean you get to KEEP a TV show. It just means the government can't JAIL you for your speech. Kimmel N Bits has the same free speech I do.

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The Leftists don't really believe in freedom of speech: they've been trying to censor conservatives and Christian's for decades. This predates covid be many years: they tried to silence Rush Limbaugh and many others before then. They only want "freedom of speech" for themselves and it's not real freedom ofif it's one-sided.

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Did I miss anything?
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The Jimmy Kimmel suspension

A massive Public uprising triggered individual complaints to advertisers about Jimmy Kimmel.

The varied advertisers complained to their local and national syndicators about Jimmy Kimmel

The various local and national syndicators went to Disney/ABC and complained.

Disney/ABC has been documented saying that in 2026, Kimmel was going away.

Disney/ABC was losing $20-30 million per year on Kimmel

Kimmel goes bezerk on air, attacks half the nation, MAGA/Trump supporters

Disney/ABC takes advantage of this and suspends Kimmel to stop the negative cash flow

Liberals call this an attack against "Freedom of Speech" although it's simple math

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Yeah why do libtards talk about freedom of speech? This is a TV show. It was losing big money. It wasn't funny. How can you lose that big of $$$ and keep it going? Anyway, back to freedom of speech....I'l bet big $ it doesn't mean you get to KEEP a TV show. It just means the government can't JAIL you for your speech. Kimmel N Bits has the same free speech I do.

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Yet that is not the reason he got canned. Kimmel was losing $20 million bucks per year. There is no scenario where you can justify that to your shareholders. Disney had been speaking of firing in the tabloids for months to years earlier. They were looking for an out and Kimmel gave them one

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New bill filed in Oklahoma that says every public university in the state must have a "Charlie Kirk Memorial Plaza" with a statue of Kirk and his family. pic.twitter.com/WGWxzW9efw

— Jeffrey Sachs (@JeffreyASachs) September 19, 2025

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I wonder what they'll do with all of those statues when they figure out Charlie was converting to Catholicism and distancing himself from white supremacy and genocide. Could be very awkward.

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Lol. And I hear Candace Owens converted him.

In other news, he also believed Mrs. Macron is a man and a Jewish cabal is running the country.

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National Catholic Register
September 19, 2025

Slain conservative activist Charlie Kirk was reportedly strongly considering becoming Catholic just prior to his assassination, according to a bishop who spoke to him shortly before his killing.

Robert Brennan, a Los Angeles-based writer and the brother of Fresno, California, Bishop Joseph Brennan, said in a Sept. 18 column in the Los Angeles archdiocesan newspaper Angelus that Kirk had a "personal exchange" with the California prelate about a week before Kirk's murder at Utah Valley University on Sept. 10.

The writer Brennan, who said Bishop Brennan gave him permission to share the story, wrote that Kirk had spoken to the prelate at a prayer breakfast in Visalia. The conservative activist "told the bishop about his Catholic wife and children and how he attended Mass with them."

Kirk acknowledged "speculation" about his possible interest in becoming Catholic, Brennan wrote in Angelus; he subsequently told Bishop Brennan: "I'm this close" to converting.

In his Angelus column Brennan pointed to a recent video Kirk made in which he acknowledged some "big disagreements" with Catholicism but claimed that Protestants "under-value" the Blessed Mother.

"We don't talk about Mary enough. We don't venerate her enough," Kirk said, arguing that Mary is "the solution" to "toxic feminism" in the U.S.

"[H]ow fitting one of Charlie Kirk's last videos was about the preeminent mediatrix of all time and space," Robert Brennan wrote in Angelus. "In his own way he was reaching out to her, and now, I am convinced, she is returning the favor."

Prominent Catholics around the world have joined in the chorus of voices mourning Kirk's death in the days since he was killed. German Catholic Cardinal Gerhard Ludwig Mller referred to Kirk this week as "a martyr for Jesus Christ" and condemned the "satanic celebration" of his death by some of his detractors.

Kristan Hawkins, the president of Students for Life of America and Students for Life Action and a close friend of Kirk's, said on Sept. 13 that the activist's death "will be a turning point" for the country.

And Heritage Foundation President Kevin Roberts said Kirk's activism "restored optimism about the American future for millions of Americans."

https://www.ncregister.com/cna/report-charlie-kirk-was-this-close-to-becoming-catholic-just-prior-to-his-death

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And now according to Catholic doctrine, he's likely burning in hell.

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Unlikely he repented or confessed prior to getting shot. Probably didn't say a Hail Mary. So yeah.

Bummer

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Nehls to Kash Patel: "I would say if Charlie Kirk lived in Biblical times, he'd have been the 13th disciple." pic.twitter.com/lPDEUXALl9

— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) September 17, 2025

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funny, before he was killed I never heard of Charlie Kirk. Now he is the 13th Apostle?

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You never heard of Charlie Kirk?
You really need to question your sources of information. The left wing demoncrat media has you right where they want you.... isolated away from the truth and only hearing their propaganda.

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Huh? I don't hang out on college campuses nor am I in the demographic he targeted. Shooter, you cruising the college scenes? : )

Before his killing I can't remember the last time Charlie Kirk was in the Business, international or sports news that I typically would listen to.

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He was a speaker at the national convention.
He has been on multiple talk shows and news shows including CNN, MSNBC, Fox News, BBC, etc
He's not just some kid on college campuses, he's been on all over the place.

Your sources have been shielding you from the truth.
Get help

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Because I didn't follow Charlie Kirk I need to get help? You guys go have really gone off the edge

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no, because you didn't know anything about him means you are not terribly well versed in current affairs.

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Not very well versed in the Right Wing dogma. Yeah. I tend to get my information from Wall St Journal, Reuters, Bloomberg, BBC for International.

What I don't rely on is editiorials and places like FOX, CNN, Breitbart or other opinion based mouthpieces.

But, if you keep telling us what is acceptable and what isn't maybe you can get the "vermin eradicated..."

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Sad thing is that of all the people in this thread, you appear to be the one who needed to listen to Charlie the most.
You need an injection of truth to heal you from all the lies you are believing.
Your posts here make that obviously clear.

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Geez, you guys got it bad. Not listening to or knowing about Charlie Kirk is not a crime. Nor is listening to this guy a badge of intellectualism. There are a lot of people that speak that you and I are not aware. Some guy that debated college kids is not high on my list of reading material.

The guy that killed him should be prosecuted and if found guilty get the appropriate penalty, including death depending on the law of the state. But, that doesn't make Kirk more than he was in terms of "must read", Nobody should be killed for speech. Feel bad for his family, just as I would for anyone wrongfully killed.

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I never doubted your belief in justice in this situation.
Thanks for restating it, but it was never in doubt in my mind.

Charlie Kirk was not just a guy on college campuses. He was on every network including the ones you mentioned... especially the BBC.
It's quote surprising that a guy who has been on all the major networks multiple times, and has been discussed hundreds, maybe thousands of times over the past 8 or so years on every network... is someone you've never heard of before.
He has been on the news for years because of his debates on politics, religion, social issues and even economics.
He himself has been on every network to discuss current events and hot topics of the day.
You've been living in a very isolated world.

It's like saying that you've never heard of Joe Rogan or Richard Dawkins or Noam Chomsky or Cornell West. And by the way, none of them have as big a following as Charlie Kirk.... except maybe Joe Rogan.

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Did I miss anything?
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The Jimmy Kimmel suspension

A massive Public uprising triggered individual complaints to advertisers about Jimmy Kimmel.

The varied advertisers complained to their local and national syndicators about Jimmy Kimmel

The various local and national syndicators went to Disney/ABC and complained.

Disney/ABC has been documented saying that in 2026, Kimmel was going away.

Disney/ABC was losing $20-30 million per year on Kimmel

Kimmel goes bezerk on air, attacks half the nation, MAGA/Trump supporters

Disney/ABC takes advantage of this and suspends Kimmel to stop the negative cash flow

Liberals call this an attack against "Freedom of Speech" although it's simple math

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Yeah why do libtards talk about freedom of speech? This is a TV show. It was losing big money. It wasn't funny. How can you lose that big of $$$ and keep it going? Anyway, back to freedom of speech....I'l bet big $ it doesn't mean you get to KEEP a TV show. It just means the government can't JAIL you for your speech. Kimmel N Bits has the same free speech I do.

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Biden did that kind of crap, pushing Tucker off the air. But isn't freedom of speech. It doesn't deal with if you get to keep a TV show. Truth is Kimmel's N Bits TV sucked and lost 2/3rds of its views from 2021 to 2025. It was also losing alot of $. Was probably propped up by USAID.

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Nehls to Kash Patel: "I would say if Charlie Kirk lived in Biblical times, he'd have been the 13th disciple." pic.twitter.com/lPDEUXALl9

— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) September 17, 2025

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funny, before he was killed I never heard of Charlie Kirk. Now he is the 13th Apostle?

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You never heard of Charlie Kirk?
You really need to question your sources of information. The left wing demoncrat media has you right where they want you.... isolated away from the truth and only hearing their propaganda.

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Huh? I don't hang out on college campuses nor am I in the demographic he targeted. Shooter, you cruising the college scenes? : )

Before his killing I can't remember the last time Charlie Kirk was in the Business, international or sports news that I typically would listen to.

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He was a speaker at the national convention.
He has been on multiple talk shows and news shows including CNN, MSNBC, Fox News, BBC, etc
He's not just some kid on college campuses, he's been on all over the place.

Your sources have been shielding you from the truth.
Get help

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Because I didn't follow Charlie Kirk I need to get help? You guys go have really gone off the edge

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no, because you didn't know anything about him means you are not terribly well versed in current affairs.

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Not very well versed in the Right Wing dogma. Yeah. I tend to get my information from Wall St Journal, Reuters, Bloomberg, BBC for International.

What I don't rely on is editiorials and places like FOX, CNN, Breitbart or other opinion based mouthpieces.

But, if you keep telling us what is acceptable and what isn't maybe you can get the "vermin eradicated..."

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Sad thing is that of all the people in this thread, you appear to be the one who needed to listen to Charlie the most.
You need an injection of truth to heal you from all the lies you are believing.
Your posts here make that obviously clear.

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Geez, you guys got it bad. Not listening to or knowing about Charlie Kirk is not a crime. Nor is listening to this guy a badge of intellectualism. There are a lot of people that speak that you and I are not aware. Some guy that debated college kids is not high on my list of reading material.

The guy that killed him should be prosecuted and if found guilty get the appropriate penalty, including death depending on the law of the state. But, that doesn't make Kirk more than he was in terms of "must read", Nobody should be killed for speech. Feel bad for his family, just as I would for anyone wrongfully killed.

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It's like saying that you've never heard of Joe Rogan or Richard Dawkins or Noam Chomsky or Cornell West. And by the way, none of them have as big a following as Charlie Kirk.... except maybe Joe Rogan.

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Ha.

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Nehls to Kash Patel: "I would say if Charlie Kirk lived in Biblical times, he'd have been the 13th disciple." pic.twitter.com/lPDEUXALl9

— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) September 17, 2025

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funny, before he was killed I never heard of Charlie Kirk. Now he is the 13th Apostle?

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You never heard of Charlie Kirk?
You really need to question your sources of information. The left wing demoncrat media has you right where they want you.... isolated away from the truth and only hearing their propaganda.

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Huh? I don't hang out on college campuses nor am I in the demographic he targeted. Shooter, you cruising the college scenes? : )

Before his killing I can't remember the last time Charlie Kirk was in the Business, international or sports news that I typically would listen to.

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He was a speaker at the national convention.
He has been on multiple talk shows and news shows including CNN, MSNBC, Fox News, BBC, etc
He's not just some kid on college campuses, he's been on all over the place.

Your sources have been shielding you from the truth.
Get help

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Because I didn't follow Charlie Kirk I need to get help? You guys go have really gone off the edge

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no, because you didn't know anything about him means you are not terribly well versed in current affairs.

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Not very well versed in the Right Wing dogma. Yeah. I tend to get my information from Wall St Journal, Reuters, Bloomberg, BBC for International.

What I don't rely on is editiorials and places like FOX, CNN, Breitbart or other opinion based mouthpieces.

But, if you keep telling us what is acceptable and what isn't maybe you can get the "vermin eradicated..."

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Sad thing is that of all the people in this thread, you appear to be the one who needed to listen to Charlie the most.
You need an injection of truth to heal you from all the lies you are believing.
Your posts here make that obviously clear.

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Geez, you guys got it bad. Not listening to or knowing about Charlie Kirk is not a crime. Nor is listening to this guy a badge of intellectualism. There are a lot of people that speak that you and I are not aware. Some guy that debated college kids is not high on my list of reading material.

The guy that killed him should be prosecuted and if found guilty get the appropriate penalty, including death depending on the law of the state. But, that doesn't make Kirk more than he was in terms of "must read", Nobody should be killed for speech. Feel bad for his family, just as I would for anyone wrongfully killed.

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I didn't know who Kirk was and had never seen any of his videos. Since then I've seen several hours of video. I'm still looking for something I disagree with

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Nehls to Kash Patel: "I would say if Charlie Kirk lived in Biblical times, he'd have been the 13th disciple." pic.twitter.com/lPDEUXALl9

— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) September 17, 2025

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funny, before he was killed I never heard of Charlie Kirk. Now he is the 13th Apostle?

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You never heard of Charlie Kirk?
You really need to question your sources of information. The left wing demoncrat media has you right where they want you.... isolated away from the truth and only hearing their propaganda.

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Huh? I don't hang out on college campuses nor am I in the demographic he targeted. Shooter, you cruising the college scenes? : )

Before his killing I can't remember the last time Charlie Kirk was in the Business, international or sports news that I typically would listen to.

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He was a speaker at the national convention.
He has been on multiple talk shows and news shows including CNN, MSNBC, Fox News, BBC, etc
He's not just some kid on college campuses, he's been on all over the place.

Your sources have been shielding you from the truth.
Get help

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Because I didn't follow Charlie Kirk I need to get help? You guys go have really gone off the edge

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no, because you didn't know anything about him means you are not terribly well versed in current affairs.

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Not very well versed in the Right Wing dogma. Yeah. I tend to get my information from Wall St Journal, Reuters, Bloomberg, BBC for International.

What I don't rely on is editiorials and places like FOX, CNN, Breitbart or other opinion based mouthpieces.

But, if you keep telling us what is acceptable and what isn't maybe you can get the "vermin eradicated..."

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I follow the sources you mention as well, but when you don't broaden your sources to see what people are saying across the spectrum, you become out of touch with what is happening in your country.
That is evidenced by your belief that people like whiterock see their political opponents as vermin to be eradicated
There is a group of people who actually believe this, have publicly expressed it long before Kirk was murdered, and carried out 3 assassination attempts, one successful, on the basis of this belief.
But it's not who you think it is because you have not been listening.

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Nehls to Kash Patel: "I would say if Charlie Kirk lived in Biblical times, he'd have been the 13th disciple." pic.twitter.com/lPDEUXALl9

— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) September 17, 2025

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funny, before he was killed I never heard of Charlie Kirk. Now he is the 13th Apostle?

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You never heard of Charlie Kirk?
You really need to question your sources of information. The left wing demoncrat media has you right where they want you.... isolated away from the truth and only hearing their propaganda.

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Huh? I don't hang out on college campuses nor am I in the demographic he targeted. Shooter, you cruising the college scenes? : )

Before his killing I can't remember the last time Charlie Kirk was in the Business, international or sports news that I typically would listen to.

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He was a speaker at the national convention.
He has been on multiple talk shows and news shows including CNN, MSNBC, Fox News, BBC, etc
He's not just some kid on college campuses, he's been on all over the place.

Your sources have been shielding you from the truth.
Get help

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Because I didn't follow Charlie Kirk I need to get help? You guys go have really gone off the edge

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no, because you didn't know anything about him means you are not terribly well versed in current affairs.

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Not very well versed in the Right Wing dogma. Yeah. I tend to get my information from Wall St Journal, Reuters, Bloomberg, BBC for International.

What I don't rely on is editiorials and places like FOX, CNN, Breitbart or other opinion based mouthpieces.

But, if you keep telling us what is acceptable and what isn't maybe you can get the "vermin eradicated..."

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Sad thing is that of all the people in this thread, you appear to be the one who needed to listen to Charlie the most.
You need an injection of truth to heal you from all the lies you are believing.
Your posts here make that obviously clear.

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Geez, you guys got it bad. Not listening to or knowing about Charlie Kirk is not a crime. Nor is listening to this guy a badge of intellectualism. There are a lot of people that speak that you and I are not aware. Some guy that debated college kids is not high on my list of reading material.

The guy that killed him should be prosecuted and if found guilty get the appropriate penalty, including death depending on the law of the state. But, that doesn't make Kirk more than he was in terms of "must read", Nobody should be killed for speech. Feel bad for his family, just as I would for anyone wrongfully killed.

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I didn't know who Kirk was and had never seen any of his videos. Since then I've seen several hours of video. I'm still looking for something I disagree with

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He just had a peaceful way. Maybe the closest person to Jesus in our embattled lifetimes

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Women should choose a family over a career, it's more fulfilling
Get married and have lots of kids
Human life is precious at the start of conception
People shouldn't be judged based on skin color
Our borders should be secure
Nobody is born in the wrong body
Jesus loves you

Certainly positions up for debate but hardly 'hate speech' or 'fascist'

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Actually, the opposite of hate speech or fascism.
Curious how often the people who accuse others of "hate speech" are the most hateful people around. Some turn to violence.

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It is not so much that they "turn" to violence, it is that they see no difference between words and violence. They are wrong, but they believe what Injustice said is violence. When you believe that verbal disagreement is violence, then it is a very short path to physical violence. One of the problems among many that we face is a philosophy that argues that words of disagreement are violence. This is the justification used by Charlie Kirk's killer and by many of those who are happy that he was murdered: he had it coming.

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True but they are not fooling anyone but themselves and the mental cases. That's why the Dems shard some blame gif Charlie's murder: inciting violence is a felony and should be. Leftists never take responsibility for their actions unless forced to and then they whine and moan like they are the victims (see Left's reaction to Kimmel's cancellation). They act like toddlers because emotionally they are toddlers.

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Are you aware of a man named Trump?

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The guy I did not vote for? Yeah, I am aware of him. Bit of a vindictive narcissist. Totally unrelated to the philosophical wasteland of the left and the violent murder that it worships.

I never agree with Van Jones, but this is so good of him to do.

I am Charlie Kirk