Morman Church Suffers shooting Attack in Michigan

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Aliceinbubbleland
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Multiple people shot. Church on fire. Insane. .
Jack Bauer
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hodedofome
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Working assumption is that this is another trans dude. These days, it's guilty until proven innocent.

Plenty of trannies in Michigan so even more likely.
Jack Bauer
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Yes, I am suspicious...

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Jack Bauer
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hodedofome said:

Working assumption is that this is another trans dude. These days, it's guilty until proven innocent.

Plenty of trannies in Michigan so even more likely.


Sorry to tell you it's a white dude..

Realitybites
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Could be anything at this point. False flag, ******, garden variety democrat, personal beef.
Aliceinbubbleland
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No one other than military or police needs assault rifles.

It's time to require real verifiable names to post on social media platforms.
RD2WINAGNBEAR86
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Aliceinbubbleland said:

No one other than military or police needs assault rifles.

It's time to require real verifiable names to post on social media platforms.

Define assault rifle. Wouldn't that be any long gun (including shotguns) used in an assault?

Whose names do you want posted on social media platforms?
Call it a tax, the people are outraged! Call it a tariff, the people get out their checkbooks and wave their American flags!!!
Mitch Blood Green
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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

Aliceinbubbleland said:

No one other than military or police needs assault rifles.

It's time to require real verifiable names to post on social media platforms.

Define assault rifle. Wouldn't that be any long gun (including shotguns) used in an assault?

Whose names do you want posted on social media platforms?


This wasn't the only shooting like this in the last 24 hours. Some guy in a boat approached a dock in NC and shot up the patrons at a restaurant.

For all the details we argue about (race, gender, mental health status, sexual orientation, etc) the thing that remains constant is the gun.

The bullet doesn't care about all the things we do. It just destroys lives. The bullet doesn't care that you're a better dude than me, when it comes at us, you could be ****ed.

We can do something about this. We won't. After Sandy Hook, I lost faith in our will to do what's right for the country.
https://nypost.com/2025/09/28/us-news/southport-mass-shooting-suspect-identified-as-nigel-edge-after-deadly-north-carolina-attack-report/

RD2WINAGNBEAR86
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Mitch Blood Green said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

Aliceinbubbleland said:

No one other than military or police needs assault rifles.

It's time to require real verifiable names to post on social media platforms.

Define assault rifle. Wouldn't that be any long gun (including shotguns) used in an assault?

Whose names do you want posted on social media platforms?


This wasn't the only shooting like this in the last 24 hours. Some guy in a boat approached a dock in NC and shot up the patrons at a restaurant.

For all the details we argue about (race, gender, mental health status, sexual orientation, etc) the thing that remains constant is the gun.

The bullet doesn't care about all the things we do. It just destroys lives. The bullet doesn't care that you're a better dude than me, when it comes at us, you could be ****ed.

We can do something about this. We won't. After Sandy Hook, I lost faith in our will to do what's right for the country.
https://nypost.com/2025/09/28/us-news/southport-mass-shooting-suspect-identified-as-nigel-edge-after-deadly-north-carolina-attack-report/



In my 62 years of life, I have never once had any of my guns jump up and shoot at anybody. Not once.

Timothy McVeigh took 168 lives without pulling a trigger. Fertilizer and jet fuel are still legal.
Call it a tax, the people are outraged! Call it a tariff, the people get out their checkbooks and wave their American flags!!!
Mitch Blood Green
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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

Aliceinbubbleland said:

No one other than military or police needs assault rifles.

It's time to require real verifiable names to post on social media platforms.

Define assault rifle. Wouldn't that be any long gun (including shotguns) used in an assault?

Whose names do you want posted on social media platforms?


This wasn't the only shooting like this in the last 24 hours. Some guy in a boat approached a dock in NC and shot up the patrons at a restaurant.

For all the details we argue about (race, gender, mental health status, sexual orientation, etc) the thing that remains constant is the gun.

The bullet doesn't care about all the things we do. It just destroys lives. The bullet doesn't care that you're a better dude than me, when it comes at us, you could be ****ed.

We can do something about this. We won't. After Sandy Hook, I lost faith in our will to do what's right for the country.
https://nypost.com/2025/09/28/us-news/southport-mass-shooting-suspect-identified-as-nigel-edge-after-deadly-north-carolina-attack-report/



In my 62 years of life, I have never once had any of my guns jump up and shoot at anybody. Not once.

Timothy McVeigh took 168 lives without pulling a trigger. Fertilizer and jet fuel are still legal.


62 is young. You're right, your gun is innocent. Still, we should make sure your gun never ends up in my diseased hands.

Every Hairy Dick Tom should not be able to get a gun just because they turned 18.
Aliceinbubbleland
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Baby steps first. Ban assault rifles. There is no way firearms will be banned in this country but assault rifles are nut jobs weapon of choice.
Jack Bauer
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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

Aliceinbubbleland said:

No one other than military or police needs assault rifles.

It's time to require real verifiable names to post on social media platforms.

Define assault rifle. Wouldn't that be any long gun (including shotguns) used in an assault?

Whose names do you want posted on social media platforms?


This wasn't the only shooting like this in the last 24 hours. Some guy in a boat approached a dock in NC and shot up the patrons at a restaurant.

For all the details we argue about (race, gender, mental health status, sexual orientation, etc) the thing that remains constant is the gun.

The bullet doesn't care about all the things we do. It just destroys lives. The bullet doesn't care that you're a better dude than me, when it comes at us, you could be ****ed.

We can do something about this. We won't. After Sandy Hook, I lost faith in our will to do what's right for the country.
https://nypost.com/2025/09/28/us-news/southport-mass-shooting-suspect-identified-as-nigel-edge-after-deadly-north-carolina-attack-report/



In my 62 years of life, I have never once had any of my guns jump up and shoot at anybody. Not once.

Timothy McVeigh took 168 lives without pulling a trigger. Fertilizer and jet fuel are still legal.


I can run away from fertilizer and jet fuel
Harrison Bergeron
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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

Aliceinbubbleland said:

No one other than military or police needs assault rifles.

It's time to require real verifiable names to post on social media platforms.

Define assault rifle. Wouldn't that be any long gun (including shotguns) used in an assault?

Whose names do you want posted on social media platforms?


This wasn't the only shooting like this in the last 24 hours. Some guy in a boat approached a dock in NC and shot up the patrons at a restaurant.

For all the details we argue about (race, gender, mental health status, sexual orientation, etc) the thing that remains constant is the gun.

The bullet doesn't care about all the things we do. It just destroys lives. The bullet doesn't care that you're a better dude than me, when it comes at us, you could be ****ed.

We can do something about this. We won't. After Sandy Hook, I lost faith in our will to do what's right for the country.
https://nypost.com/2025/09/28/us-news/southport-mass-shooting-suspect-identified-as-nigel-edge-after-deadly-north-carolina-attack-report/



In my 62 years of life, I have never once had any of my guns jump up and shoot at anybody. Not once.

Timothy McVeigh took 168 lives without pulling a trigger. Fertilizer and jet fuel are still legal.


That's because you're a racist sexist transphobe nazi. Otherwise, you would know the experts tell us that guns animate and commit murder. Listen to the experts *******.
Mitch Blood Green
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Jack Bauer said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

Aliceinbubbleland said:

No one other than military or police needs assault rifles.

It's time to require real verifiable names to post on social media platforms.

Define assault rifle. Wouldn't that be any long gun (including shotguns) used in an assault?

Whose names do you want posted on social media platforms?


This wasn't the only shooting like this in the last 24 hours. Some guy in a boat approached a dock in NC and shot up the patrons at a restaurant.

For all the details we argue about (race, gender, mental health status, sexual orientation, etc) the thing that remains constant is the gun.

The bullet doesn't care about all the things we do. It just destroys lives. The bullet doesn't care that you're a better dude than me, when it comes at us, you could be ****ed.

We can do something about this. We won't. After Sandy Hook, I lost faith in our will to do what's right for the country.
https://nypost.com/2025/09/28/us-news/southport-mass-shooting-suspect-identified-as-nigel-edge-after-deadly-north-carolina-attack-report/



In my 62 years of life, I have never once had any of my guns jump up and shoot at anybody. Not once.

Timothy McVeigh took 168 lives without pulling a trigger. Fertilizer and jet fuel are still legal.


I can run away from fertilizer and jet fuel


I saw you do that.

fubar
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Or listen to a dumb**** ranting about what literally no expert in history has ever said.

It's a tough call, I know.
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GrowlTowel
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Aliceinbubbleland said:

Baby steps first. Ban assault rifles. There is no way firearms will be banned in this country but assault rifles are nut jobs weapon of choice.


And when that ban doesn't decrease the number of nut jobs with guns, what next?
Harrison Bergeron
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Aliceinbubbleland said:

Baby steps first. Ban assault rifles. There is no way firearms will be banned in this country but assault rifles are nut jobs weapon of choice.


What is an assault rifle?

Define it.
Osodecentx
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Police sources earlier identified the shooter to FOX 2 and said he was a Marine veteran who spent time in Iraq. According to those sources, he had a wife and a son.
Mitch Blood Green
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GrowlTowel said:

Aliceinbubbleland said:

Baby steps first. Ban assault rifles. There is no way firearms will be banned in this country but assault rifles are nut jobs weapon of choice.


And when that ban doesn't decrease the number of nut jobs with guns, what next?


GT, we can't keep doing nothing and expect different results.

We keep doing nothing "because it won't work" we are smart enough to cut these shootings in half.

TinFoilHatPreacherBear
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Mitch Blood Green said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

Aliceinbubbleland said:

No one other than military or police needs assault rifles.

It's time to require real verifiable names to post on social media platforms.

Define assault rifle. Wouldn't that be any long gun (including shotguns) used in an assault?

Whose names do you want posted on social media platforms?


This wasn't the only shooting like this in the last 24 hours. Some guy in a boat approached a dock in NC and shot up the patrons at a restaurant.

For all the details we argue about (race, gender, mental health status, sexual orientation, etc) the thing that remains constant is the gun.

The bullet doesn't care about all the things we do. It just destroys lives. The bullet doesn't care that you're a better dude than me, when it comes at us, you could be ****ed.

We can do something about this. We won't. After Sandy Hook, I lost faith in our will to do what's right for the country.
https://nypost.com/2025/09/28/us-news/southport-mass-shooting-suspect-identified-as-nigel-edge-after-deadly-north-carolina-attack-report/



In my 62 years of life, I have never once had any of my guns jump up and shoot at anybody. Not once.

Timothy McVeigh took 168 lives without pulling a trigger. Fertilizer and jet fuel are still legal.


62 is young. You're right, your gun is innocent. Still, we should make sure your gun never ends up in my diseased hands.

Every Hairy Dick Tom should not be able to get a gun just because they turned 18.

The easiest thing to do to drastically reduce gun crime and murder is to make it so Democrats leave the country. If they did that, they'd kill a lot fewer people. Sure they'd take up knives, but that'd have less of an impact.

Not sure why this would be controversial to you. Much better than the sane people having to give their guns up just because Dems are animals by and large.
Thee tinfoil hat couch-potato prognosticator, not a bible school preacher.


fubar
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Osodecentx said:

Police sources earlier identified the shooter to FOX 2 and said he was a Marine veteran who spent time in Iraq. According to those sources, he had a wife and a son.

Does his wife know he was trans?
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TinFoilHatPreacherBear
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Osodecentx said:

Police sources earlier identified the shooter to FOX 2 and said he was a Marine veteran who spent time in Iraq. According to those sources, he had a wife and a son.

Although the odds are that it'd be a leftist anti-church type of person, I won't be surprised if it's just a non-political non-Mormon holding a grudge against the Mormon church for various reasons. Clearly a nut job but lots of control and power in that church and state that may have affected the person. Don't know how personal the grudge is.

Thee tinfoil hat couch-potato prognosticator, not a bible school preacher.


Harrison Bergeron
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Mitch Blood Green said:

GrowlTowel said:

Aliceinbubbleland said:

Baby steps first. Ban assault rifles. There is no way firearms will be banned in this country but assault rifles are nut jobs weapon of choice.


And when that ban doesn't decrease the number of nut jobs with guns, what next?


GT, we can't keep doing nothing and expect different results.

We keep doing nothing "because it won't work" we are smart enough to cut these shootings in half.




Do states like Illinois and Minnesota with strict gun control have any gun violence?
Aliceinbubbleland
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TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

Osodecentx said:

Police sources earlier identified the shooter to FOX 2 and said he was a Marine veteran who spent time in Iraq. According to those sources, he had a wife and a son.

Although the odds are that it'd be a leftist anti-church type of person, I won't be surprised if it's just a non-political non-Mormon holding a grudge against the Mormon church for various reasons. Lots of control and power in that church and state that may have affected the person.


Holy ***** Unbelievable.
Mitch Blood Green
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Harrison Bergeron said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

GrowlTowel said:

Aliceinbubbleland said:

Baby steps first. Ban assault rifles. There is no way firearms will be banned in this country but assault rifles are nut jobs weapon of choice.


And when that ban doesn't decrease the number of nut jobs with guns, what next?


GT, we can't keep doing nothing and expect different results.

We keep doing nothing "because it won't work" we are smart enough to cut these shootings in half.




Do states like Illinois and Minnesota with strict gun control have any gun violence?


Actuality, the Supremes cut their ability to tighten up guns laws. Still, it's no longer arguable. States that have stronger gun laws have less gun violence.
Jack Bauer
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Suspect is Thomas Sanford - 40 year old Iraq War veteran

Forest Bueller III
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One man's assault rifle is another man's wild hog control rifle.

The mentally insane should not be able to own a firearm. Period.

Those that do own "assault rifles" should have them registered to an individual and
that individual required to pass certified safety courses in order to continue owning them.

This should include continuing education.

Even with these pretty stringent measures a few nuts will still slip through.

Looking at this man's profile and the pictures with his child where he was glowing with
pride, he almost certainly had some kind of mental breakdown and was not clinically sane.

Fairly common with people who have been deployed to places like Iraq and was in actual combat.




Aliceinbubbleland
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Good rationale. Thank you.
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Harrison Bergeron said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

GrowlTowel said:

Aliceinbubbleland said:

Baby steps first. Ban assault rifles. There is no way firearms will be banned in this country but assault rifles are nut jobs weapon of choice.


And when that ban doesn't decrease the number of nut jobs with guns, what next?


GT, we can't keep doing nothing and expect different results.

We keep doing nothing "because it won't work" we are smart enough to cut these shootings in half.




Do states like Illinois and Minnesota with strict gun control have any gun violence?


Mexico as well makes a good case study

[Mexico has extremely strict gun control laws, though the constitution technically grants a right to bear arms. Private ownership is severely limited, with only one official gun store in the country, strict regulations on types of firearms, and a thorough registration process.]

Yet about 20,000 people a year are killed with guns in Mexico

Sam Lowry
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TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

Osodecentx said:

Police sources earlier identified the shooter to FOX 2 and said he was a Marine veteran who spent time in Iraq. According to those sources, he had a wife and a son.

Although the odds are that it'd be a leftist anti-church type of person, I won't be surprised if it's just a non-political non-Mormon holding a grudge against the Mormon church for various reasons. Clearly a nut job but lots of control and power in that church and state that may have affected the person. Don't know how personal the grudge is.



You have drawn the White Male Veteran card.

Proceed directly to the Apolitical Nut Job square.

Do not pass Right-Wing Political Violence.
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Sam Lowry said:

TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

Osodecentx said:

Police sources earlier identified the shooter to FOX 2 and said he was a Marine veteran who spent time in Iraq. According to those sources, he had a wife and a son.

Although the odds are that it'd be a leftist anti-church type of person, I won't be surprised if it's just a non-political non-Mormon holding a grudge against the Mormon church for various reasons. Clearly a nut job but lots of control and power in that church and state that may have affected the person. Don't know how personal the grudge is.



You have drawn the White Male Veteran card.

Proceed directly to the Apolitical Nut Job square.

Do not pass Right-Wing Political Violence.


It could be right-wing related….but it would certainly not fit a pattern.

Most Mormons are conservative so it's a strange group for a right wing extremism to target.

But I suppose anything is possible
Jack Bauer
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When you are ready to dunk on the group associated with the suspect and the suspect looks like you..

 
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