Tucker's attempt to normalize Nick Fuentes

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Mothra said:

Lots of blowback for Tucker, and his attempts to normalize the Hitler apologist, Holocaust denier, Stalin lover and white supremacist. Couldn't believe the softball questions he was serving.

I am curious how the Tucker defenders feel about the interview. What say you? Think this is going to win the Republicans more votes?

https://nypost.com/2025/11/03/opinion/conservatives-must-reject-hate-spewer-nick-fuentes-and-his-allies/

Didn't Fox and CNN both dump Tucker at some point.

I don't think main stream Republicans or main stream anybody listens to Tucker much.

I never hear him any longer anywhere, and that is fine with me, he adds little.

Obviously there is a financial benefit to his pro Russian rhetoric.
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The_barBEARian said:



You guys should call him a Nazi and encourage someone to kill Tucker like you did with Charlie Kirk... the only dangerous people in this country are you people... the left.

I'm sorry he was killed by a crazy person. People on the left and the right have been killed or shot by corresponding extremists i.e. Kirk, Speaker Hortman and husband, Senator Hoffman and wife. To be objective, it is not a left exclusivity. Political violence has been skewed more to the right than left, until 2025 when left wing out paced right wing.

Ironically, Kirk died by his convictions: "I think it's worth it. It's worth to have a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year so that we can have the Second Amendment to protect our other God given rights. That's a prudent deal. It is rational," he said on stage at a Turning Point USA Faith event in April 2023, via Media Matters.
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TexasScientist said:

The_barBEARian said:



You guys should call him a Nazi and encourage someone to kill Tucker like you did with Charlie Kirk... the only dangerous people in this country are you people... the left.

I'm sorry he was killed by a crazy person. People on the left and the right have been killed or shot by corresponding extremists i.e. Kirk, Speaker Hortman and husband, Senator Hoffman and wife. To be objective, it is not a left exclusivity. Political violence has been skewed more to the right than left, until 2025 when left wing out paced right wing.

Ironically, Kirk died by his convictions: "I think it's worth it. It's worth to have a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year so that we can have the Second Amendment to protect our other God given rights. That's a prudent deal. It is rational," he said on stage at a Turning Point USA Faith event in April 2023, via Media Matters.

Unless the left is going to stop calling people Nazis and Fascists, any apology will ring hollow. Such rhetoric de-persons your opponent and creates an environment where it is deemed ok to kill them. A reasonable person would recognize this and accept responsibility. The truth is there are those on the left who truly believe they are Nazis/Fascists and deserve to die. And there are others who know they are not but are more than happy to use it for political advantage even if the result is death to innocent people. They then say sorry or even less and go right back to doing the same thing. In the church, we would consider this an unrepentant sinner.
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TexasScientist said:

The_barBEARian said:



You guys should call him a Nazi and encourage someone to kill Tucker like you did with Charlie Kirk... the only dangerous people in this country are you people... the left.

I'm sorry he was killed by a crazy person. People on the left and the right have been killed or shot by corresponding extremists i.e. Kirk, Speaker Hortman and husband, Senator Hoffman and wife. To be objective, it is not a left exclusivity. Political violence has been skewed more to the right than left, until 2025 when left wing out paced right wing.

Ironically, Kirk died by his convictions: "I think it's worth it. It's worth to have a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year so that we can have the Second Amendment to protect our other God given rights. That's a prudent deal. It is rational," he said on stage at a Turning Point USA Faith event in April 2023, via Media Matters.

Nope. You keep reading Qanon Flat Earth, but all the political violence is on one side.

There has not been a right-wing political violence since ... cannot remember.
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BaylorFTW said:

TexasScientist said:

The_barBEARian said:



You guys should call him a Nazi and encourage someone to kill Tucker like you did with Charlie Kirk... the only dangerous people in this country are you people... the left.

I'm sorry he was killed by a crazy person. People on the left and the right have been killed or shot by corresponding extremists i.e. Kirk, Speaker Hortman and husband, Senator Hoffman and wife. To be objective, it is not a left exclusivity. Political violence has been skewed more to the right than left, until 2025 when left wing out paced right wing.

Ironically, Kirk died by his convictions: "I think it's worth it. It's worth to have a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year so that we can have the Second Amendment to protect our other God given rights. That's a prudent deal. It is rational," he said on stage at a Turning Point USA Faith event in April 2023, via Media Matters.

Unless the left is going to stop calling people Nazis and Fascists, any apology will ring hollow. Such rhetoric de-persons your opponent and creates an environment where it is deemed ok to kill them. A reasonable person would recognize this and accept responsibility. The truth is there are those on the left who truly believe they are Nazis/Fascists and deserve to die. And there are others who know they are not but are more than happy to use it for political advantage even if the result is death to innocent people. They then say sorry or even less and go right back to doing the same thing. In the church, we would consider this an unrepentant sinner.

I tend to agree, and that applies to the center, the right and to Trump. Trump's and his followers' rhetoric is extreme to say the least, calling anyone who disagrees with him communists and worse (Trump frequently calls opponents skum and worse), saying they deserve to die or be killed, tried for treason, equals, or in many cases excels far beyond what is being said from the elsewhere. Both sides should tone it down, and Trump should (although his psychological disorders won't permit him) conduct himself in a presidential manner, with character, dignity, and common decency. His rhetoric is by far the most inciteful and irresponsible of any major politician since the 1930s and 40s.
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So you never listened to/watched a speech from Biden during his time at the White House.
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Oldbear83 said:

So you never listened to/watched a speech from Biden during his time at the White House.

Stupid Republican. Calling everyone that disagrees with you a fascist, racist, homophobe, hater demonstrates UNITY!

Flat Earth is the Mayor of Bizzaro World.

The difference between those that live in reality is no one pretends that Trump does not say stupid ****; Bizzaro's like Flat Earth think Biden calling everyone that disagreed with him and Ultrafascistmagacon was UNITY!

Radical leftists have been unleashing unprecedented political violence against Congress, SCOTUS, presidential candidates, pundits, schools, etc., but Trump is the REAL problem.

You cannot reason with a guy that gets his information from QAnon and thinks birds are not real.
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Realitybites said:

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Weve been over this. Replacement theory, the Jews, Russia and Iran. Tucker hates the Jews but loves his dictators and totalitarian states. Hates Ted Cruz but loves him some neo nazis. Total whack job.


I'm not asking for your dime store opinion of what he may have said.

I'm asking you for specific quotes from him that led you to this conclusion so that a broader audience can determine for themselves if what you charge him with his correct or not.

Otherwise you're just bearing false witness about him having "extreme and hateful ideas".


We've discussed his quotes ad nauseum on this thread, and provided links to same, for those who can read. I'm not going to repost all we've discussed in one post because you're either too obtuse or too lazy to go back and read the thread. Sorry.
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Oldbear83 said:

So you never listened to/watched a speech from Biden during his time at the White House.

Sure I did. Didn't like most of what I heard, but as far as extreme rhetoric, Trump excels. I don't recall Biden ever saying an opponent or someone who disagrees with him should be executed - something Trump does frequently. Maybe you could give me an example?
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Harrison Bergeron said:

Oldbear83 said:

So you never listened to/watched a speech from Biden during his time at the White House.

Stupid Republican. Calling everyone that disagrees with you a fascist, racist, homophobe, hater demonstrates UNITY!

Flat Earth is the Mayor of Bizzaro World.

The difference between those that live in reality is no one pretends that Trump does not say stupid ****; Bizzaro's like Flat Earth think Biden calling everyone that disagreed with him and Ultrafascistmagacon was UNITY!

Radical leftists have been unleashing unprecedented political violence against Congress, SCOTUS, presidential candidates, pundits, schools, etc., but Trump is the REAL problem.

You cannot reason with a guy that gets his information from QAnon and thinks birds are not real.

^^^ And that's your problem.
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TexasScientist said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

Oldbear83 said:

So you never listened to/watched a speech from Biden during his time at the White House.

Stupid Republican. Calling everyone that disagrees with you a fascist, racist, homophobe, hater demonstrates UNITY!

Flat Earth is the Mayor of Bizzaro World.

The difference between those that live in reality is no one pretends that Trump does not say stupid ****; Bizzaro's like Flat Earth think Biden calling everyone that disagreed with him and Ultrafascistmagacon was UNITY!

Radical leftists have been unleashing unprecedented political violence against Congress, SCOTUS, presidential candidates, pundits, schools, etc., but Trump is the REAL problem.

You cannot reason with a guy that gets his information from QAnon and thinks birds are not real.

^^^ And that's your problem.


You keep looking for the edge of the Earth Q. It's out there.
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Harrison Bergeron said:

TexasScientist said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

Oldbear83 said:

So you never listened to/watched a speech from Biden during his time at the White House.

Stupid Republican. Calling everyone that disagrees with you a fascist, racist, homophobe, hater demonstrates UNITY!

Flat Earth is the Mayor of Bizzaro World.

The difference between those that live in reality is no one pretends that Trump does not say stupid ****; Bizzaro's like Flat Earth think Biden calling everyone that disagreed with him and Ultrafascistmagacon was UNITY!

Radical leftists have been unleashing unprecedented political violence against Congress, SCOTUS, presidential candidates, pundits, schools, etc., but Trump is the REAL problem.

You cannot reason with a guy that gets his information from QAnon and thinks birds are not real.

^^^ And that's your problem.


You keep looking for the edge of the Earth Q. It's out there.

Only in science fiction is it anything but a spherical surface Harrison Bergeron. LOL.
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Harrison got TS to admit he's a flat earther.

Point for Harrison

As for Biden, if you imagine Biden was not many times worse than Trump, you need an analyst far more than a debate.
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Mothra said:


We've discussed his quotes ad nauseum on this thread, and provided links to same, for those who can read. I'm not going to repost all we've discussed in one post because you're either too obtuse or too lazy to go back and read the thread. Sorry.



Actually we haven't. When you step away from your rants about "literally Hitler!" and "Anti-Semitism!" the closest you come is something like this:

Quote:

Mr. Carlson, who interviewed Mr. Fuentes last week, has recently reinvented himself as a conspiracy peddler and apologist for America's enemies. He's defended Vladimir Putin, massaged Iran's dictatorship, praised Venezuela's, and minimized Hamas's atrocities. He claims Christian Zionists have a "brain virus" and calls Jews who care about Oct. 7 "un-American."


Which is actually quoting Ben Shapiro's opinion about Tucker Carlson without original source material.
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Oldbear83 said:

Harrison got TS to admit he's a flat earther.

Point for Harrison

As for Biden, if you imagine Biden was not many times worse than Trump, you need an analyst far more than a debate.

You need to go back to geometry class and learn what a sphere is DB.

No imagining required. Trump's lies, rhetoric and actions speak for themselves, and far louder than Biden's.

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Some of you are probably too young to have heard the story of Jonathan Pollard. Others, specifically those of the Judaizer, Christian Zionist, and Israel is our greatest ally crowd would prefer it not be told. So perhaps it is time to tell it.

Jonathan Pollard Was One of the Most Damaging Spies in US History

"When Jonathan Pollard was convicted of espionage in 1987, he became the first American to go to jail for life for passing secrets to a U.S. ally. The top-secret information Pollard passed on to Israel is so vast and damaging, the complete list of files is itself top secret. He was sentenced to life in prison with the possibility of parole after 30 years.

There are few things both liberals and conservatives agree on these days, but keeping Pollard in prison for the rest of his life was one of them. Yet, he was released in 2015 and quickly made his way to Israel -- where he received a hero's welcome....

...Among the most damaging intel Pollard is (publicly) known to have given Israel information about is the VQ-2 electronic surveillance system and the 10-volume Radio and Signal Intelligence (RASIN) manual, detailing the entire U.S. global listening profile, detailing what communications the National Security Agency was monitoring, from which countries and what the U.S. priorities were.

Some of his disclosures are said to have ended up in the hands of the Soviet Union, which many believe were traded by Israel to the USSR in exchange for the continued emigration of Soviet Jewish citizens to Israel."

From another source:

"After serving 30 years in prison, Pollard was released on parole on November 20, 2015, meeting the legal requirements of no prison violations and low risk of reoffending. He was placed under a five-year probation period in the New York City area, which ended in November 2020. In December 2020, he and his wife, Esther, who was battling cancer, arrived in Israel on a private plane provided by billionaire Sheldon Adelson. Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu welcomed him with a ceremony at Ben-Gurion Airport, where Pollard kissed the ground and was granted Israeli citizenship. Netanyahu hailed the release as a long-awaited moment and praised Pollard's loyalty to Israel."

Fast forward a half decade.

Mike Huckabee, our ambassador to Israel, has a clandestine off the books meeting with this traitor without clearing it with the President or State department.

Mike Huckabee Should Probably Resign
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TexasScientist said:

Oldbear83 said:

Harrison got TS to admit he's a flat earther.

Point for Harrison

As for Biden, if you imagine Biden was not many times worse than Trump, you need an analyst far more than a debate.

You need to go back to geometry class and learn what a sphere is DB.

No imagining required. Trump's lies, rhetoric and actions speak for themselves, and far louder than Biden's.

I will wave if I see you looking for the edge of the Earth in your QAnon T-shirt.
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Realitybites said:

Some of you are probably too young to have heard the story of Jonathan Pollard. Others, specifically those of the Judaizer, Christian Zionist, and Israel is our greatest ally crowd would prefer it not be told. So perhaps it is time to tell it.

Jonathan Pollard Was One of the Most Damaging Spies in US History

"When Jonathan Pollard was convicted of espionage in 1987, he became the first American to go to jail for life for passing secrets to a U.S. ally. The top-secret information Pollard passed on to Israel is so vast and damaging, the complete list of files is itself top secret. He was sentenced to life in prison with the possibility of parole after 30 years.

There are few things both liberals and conservatives agree on these days, but keeping Pollard in prison for the rest of his life was one of them. Yet, he was released in 2015 and quickly made his way to Israel -- where he received a hero's welcome....

...Among the most damaging intel Pollard is (publicly) known to have given Israel information about is the VQ-2 electronic surveillance system and the 10-volume Radio and Signal Intelligence (RASIN) manual, detailing the entire U.S. global listening profile, detailing what communications the National Security Agency was monitoring, from which countries and what the U.S. priorities were.

Some of his disclosures are said to have ended up in the hands of the Soviet Union, which many believe were traded by Israel to the USSR in exchange for the continued emigration of Soviet Jewish citizens to Israel."

From another source:

"After serving 30 years in prison, Pollard was released on parole on November 20, 2015, meeting the legal requirements of no prison violations and low risk of reoffending. He was placed under a five-year probation period in the New York City area, which ended in November 2020. In December 2020, he and his wife, Esther, who was battling cancer, arrived in Israel on a private plane provided by billionaire Sheldon Adelson. Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu welcomed him with a ceremony at Ben-Gurion Airport, where Pollard kissed the ground and was granted Israeli citizenship. Netanyahu hailed the release as a long-awaited moment and praised Pollard's loyalty to Israel."

Fast forward a half decade.

Mike Huckabee, our ambassador to Israel, has a clandestine off the books meeting with this traitor without clearing it with the President or State department.

Mike Huckabee Should Probably Resign

If true, he should resign. Huckabee has always seemed like a crazy Zionist in the "Left Behind" kind of way.
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Yup, you need professional help
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Realitybites said:

Some of you are probably too young to have heard the story of Jonathan Pollard. Others, specifically those of the Judaizer, Christian Zionist, and Israel is our greatest ally crowd would prefer it not be told. So perhaps it is time to tell it.

Jonathan Pollard Was One of the Most Damaging Spies in US History

"When Jonathan Pollard was convicted of espionage in 1987, he became the first American to go to jail for life for passing secrets to a U.S. ally. The top-secret information Pollard passed on to Israel is so vast and damaging, the complete list of files is itself top secret. He was sentenced to life in prison with the possibility of parole after 30 years.

There are few things both liberals and conservatives agree on these days, but keeping Pollard in prison for the rest of his life was one of them. Yet, he was released in 2015 and quickly made his way to Israel -- where he received a hero's welcome....

...Among the most damaging intel Pollard is (publicly) known to have given Israel information about is the VQ-2 electronic surveillance system and the 10-volume Radio and Signal Intelligence (RASIN) manual, detailing the entire U.S. global listening profile, detailing what communications the National Security Agency was monitoring, from which countries and what the U.S. priorities were.

Some of his disclosures are said to have ended up in the hands of the Soviet Union, which many believe were traded by Israel to the USSR in exchange for the continued emigration of Soviet Jewish citizens to Israel."

From another source:

"After serving 30 years in prison, Pollard was released on parole on November 20, 2015, meeting the legal requirements of no prison violations and low risk of reoffending. He was placed under a five-year probation period in the New York City area, which ended in November 2020. In December 2020, he and his wife, Esther, who was battling cancer, arrived in Israel on a private plane provided by billionaire Sheldon Adelson. Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu welcomed him with a ceremony at Ben-Gurion Airport, where Pollard kissed the ground and was granted Israeli citizenship. Netanyahu hailed the release as a long-awaited moment and praised Pollard's loyalty to Israel."

Fast forward a half decade.

Mike Huckabee, our ambassador to Israel, has a clandestine off the books meeting with this traitor without clearing it with the President or State department.

Mike Huckabee Should Probably Resign

Mike Huckabee is another grifter opportunist who exploits religion for his own political and financial gain. It doesn't surprise me.
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Harrison Bergeron said:

TexasScientist said:

Oldbear83 said:

Harrison got TS to admit he's a flat earther.

Point for Harrison

As for Biden, if you imagine Biden was not many times worse than Trump, you need an analyst far more than a debate.

You need to go back to geometry class and learn what a sphere is DB.

No imagining required. Trump's lies, rhetoric and actions speak for themselves, and far louder than Biden's.

I will wave if I see you looking for the edge of the Earth in your QAnon T-shirt.

QAnon shirts go with MAGA hats, you should know that. You're not dressed in Trump fashion if you're not wearing them together. Don't forget your Trump Bible complete with edited copy of the U S Constitution. You'll be in full uniform then.
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The nations of Western Europe are rapidly transforming into islamo-fascist states.

We need to exit NATO to maintain our national security and sovereignty.
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Realitybites said:

Mothra said:


We've discussed his quotes ad nauseum on this thread, and provided links to same, for those who can read. I'm not going to repost all we've discussed in one post because you're either too obtuse or too lazy to go back and read the thread. Sorry.



Actually we haven't. When you step away from your rants about "literally Hitler!" and "Anti-Semitism!" the closest you come is something like this:

Quote:

Mr. Carlson, who interviewed Mr. Fuentes last week, has recently reinvented himself as a conspiracy peddler and apologist for America's enemies. He's defended Vladimir Putin, massaged Iran's dictatorship, praised Venezuela's, and minimized Hamas's atrocities. He claims Christian Zionists have a "brain virus" and calls Jews who care about Oct. 7 "un-American."


Which is actually quoting Ben Shapiro's opinion about Tucker Carlson without original source material.

So you choose to be purposely obtuse. I get it. That's so you - ignoring or failing to address issues on which you lack the intellectual capacity to retort (see replacement theology). Ok, I will spoon feed you.

1) Praise/defense of the dictator, Putin/Russia - For years, Tucker has given a platform to dictators and despots, and has defended their actions, while simultaneously trashing those he "hates." One example is Putin. Tucker has defended Putin and the Russian war against Ukraine for years, calling Putin the most effective leader" of his lifetime. On Michael Knowles show, he said, "I'm not moving to Russia, but Putin has been the most effective leader in my lifetime." He claimed Biden is more evil than Putin during that same interview.

He repeatedly praises Moscow as "nicer" than any city in America, stating: "And the most radicalizing thing for me in the eight days I spent in Moscow was not just the leader of the country," who he called "capable." He went on to say, "What was very shocking, very disturbing was the city of Moscow, where I'd never been … it was so much nicer than any city in my country." He went on to say Moscow is "so much cleaner, and prettier aesthetically its architecture, its food, its service than any city in the United States."

He also claimed in an interview with Chris Cuomo that he is "definitely more sympathetic to Putin" than Ukraine and Zelensky. He claimed the Russia is "thriving" under its president's leadership, claiming that Putin is trying to "make it better" for his nation. Incredibly, he also suggested that Russia is not a dictatorship, and that Putin is "winning elections" because of popularity, not because he's squelched all dissent, jailing and killing his political rivals. "Putin does not have absolute control of his country, and there are all kinds of potential rivals. He's been there for 20 years. I am definitely more sympathetic to Putin than Zelensky for the following reason: I think it's fair to judge leaders on how they do for their country,"

2) Defense of Venezuela and the dictator, Maduro. He defended Venezuela, calling it the "most conservative country in the Americas", and was glad that the Machado opposition was squelched by the dictator, claiming it "wasn't conservative enough."

3) It's all about the Jews. He of course had to compare Charlie Kirk's death to Christ's, stating at his funeral, "So it's about 2,000 years ago in Jerusalem, and Jesus shows up and he starts talking about the people in power, and he starts doing the worst thing that you can do, which is telling the truth about people, and they hate it, and they just go bonkers. They hate it, and they become obsessed with making him stop: 'This guy's got to stop talking. We've got to shut this guy up. And I can just sort of picture the scene in a lamp-lit room with a bunch of guys sitting around eating hummus, thinking about 'What do we do about this guy telling the truth about us? We must make him stop talking.' And there's always one guy with the bright idea, and I can just hear him say, 'I've got an idea. Why don't we just kill him? That'll shut him up, that'll fix the problem."

4) Stated that any strike on Iran's nuclear facilities would "almost certainly result in thousands of American deaths at bases throughout the Middle East" and would "end the American empire."

5) Used Jewish tropes to describe Zelensky, yet another person that Tucker Carlson "hates," stating, "Now if you see him on television, it's true you might form a different impression," Carlson said of Zelensky. "Sweaty and rat-like."

6) Labeled Holocaust minimizer, Hitler sympathizer, and podcaster Darryl Cooper, as "the most important historian in the United States," and gave him a platform to spew some of his more disgusting ideas. During the interview, Cooper identified Winston Churchillnot Adolf Hitleras the "chief villain" of World War II. He wasn't a hero at all, Cooper argued, but a "psychopath" who forced Nazi Germany into a war that it didn't want. And what of the Holocaust? Cooper refers to them as mere "prisoners of war" who the Nazis "just threw. . . into camps, and millions of people ended up dead." No agency was given to the Nazis. And of course, Tucker, failed to push back on any of these ideas, namely because he agrees with them.

7) Softball questions of Iranian president. Carlson didn't challenge Pezeshkian on well-documented plots to target American officials or on the regime's broader ambitions, or its clandestine nuclear program. He merely allowed Pezeshkian to spew Iranian propaganda.

8) And of course, there is his softball interview of neo-nazi Fuentes - the subject of this thread.

So as you can see, it's not hard to find some of the more distasteful and disgusting things that Tucker says and does. It does require an objective set of eyes, however. I can see how a sympathizer with such beliefs would have difficulty with that kind of introspection.





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Once again, you've given a list of your opinions about Tucker Carlson.

I'm looking for complete, unedited, in context sourced quotes that substantiate your charges against him. Not "he did this", or "he called a country this."

That seems to be something that you, Shapiro, and the rest of his critics seem to be incapable of providing.
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Realitybites said:

Once again, you've given a list of your opinions about Tucker Carlson.

I'm looking for complete, unedited, in context sourced quotes that substantiate your charges against him. Not "he did this", or "he called a country this."

That seems to be something that you, Shapiro, and the rest of his critics seem to be incapable of providing.

Do you know what this symbol means: " ?

This is called a quotation mark, and it generally surrounds language that is what we would call a "quote."

And if you will review what I wrote, you will see a number of quotations (plural of quote) of Tucker Carlson's exact words.

Now, typically it helps to have the context for a statement, and I've provided that for you. But if you will try to be a little less obtuse, you can avoid the context and see the exact quote.

I hope this helps.
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Mothra said:

Realitybites said:

Once again, you've given a list of your opinions about Tucker Carlson.

I'm looking for complete, unedited, in context sourced quotes that substantiate your charges against him. Not "he did this", or "he called a country this."

That seems to be something that you, Shapiro, and the rest of his critics seem to be incapable of providing.

Do you know what this symbol means: " ?

This is called a quotation mark, and it generally surrounds language that is what we would call a "quote."

And if you will review what I wrote, you will see a number of quotations (plural of quote) of Tucker Carlson's exact words.

Now, typically it helps to have the context for a statement, and I've provided that for you. But if you will try to be a little less obtuse, you can avoid the context and see the exact quote.

I hope this helps.

I'm looking for complete, unedited, in context sourced quotes that substantiate your charges against him. Lets look at the few that you provided.

"I'm not moving to Russia, but Putin has been the most effective leader in my lifetime."

I don't see anything "hateful or extreme" in an objective geopolitical analysis like that. Putin has been the most effective Russian leader in my lifetime, going back to the days of the USSR. He has elevated the quality of life for the average Russian and the availability of goods and services in a way no prior Russian leader was able to.

"What was very shocking, very disturbing was the city of Moscow, where I'd never been … it was so much nicer than any city in my country."

Have you been to San Francisco, Los Angeles, Portland, Seattle, Chicago, Saint Louis, Houston, New York, Philly, etc lately? Would you rather ride the Chicago L, the New York subway, or the Moscow subway? That's an objectively true statement. Still, nothing hateful or extreme.

"Putin does not have absolute control of his country, and there are all kinds of potential rivals. He's been there for 20 years. I am definitely more sympathetic to Putin than Zelensky for the following reason: I think it's fair to judge leaders on how they do for their country,"

The first part of that is also objectively true, and true from an IC perspective. There are competing interests in Moscow just as there are in DC or in London. It is also objectively true that the path Zelensky has charted for Ukraine has been disastrous for the average Ukrainian compared to the one that Putin charted for Russia with respect to his own citizens. Again, nothing hateful or extreme.

Stated that any strike on Iran's nuclear facilities would "almost certainly result in thousands of American deaths at bases throughout the Middle East"

He was wrong in that analysis and has admitted as much. Again, nothing hateful or extreme. It was a concern that many shared.

Quote:

He claimed Biden is more evil than Putin during that same interview.


...and? It's pretty clear that Biden damaged America far more in four years than Putin has in 20.

Interviewing people you don't like doesn't make someone hateful or extreme. But you're very quick to throw around terms like "anti-semitic" simply because people don't share your opinions.
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Realitybites said:

Mothra said:

Realitybites said:

Once again, you've given a list of your opinions about Tucker Carlson.

I'm looking for complete, unedited, in context sourced quotes that substantiate your charges against him. Not "he did this", or "he called a country this."

That seems to be something that you, Shapiro, and the rest of his critics seem to be incapable of providing.

Do you know what this symbol means: " ?

This is called a quotation mark, and it generally surrounds language that is what we would call a "quote."

And if you will review what I wrote, you will see a number of quotations (plural of quote) of Tucker Carlson's exact words.

Now, typically it helps to have the context for a statement, and I've provided that for you. But if you will try to be a little less obtuse, you can avoid the context and see the exact quote.

I hope this helps.

I'm looking for complete, unedited, in context sourced quotes that substantiate your charges against him. Lets look at the few that you provided.

"I'm not moving to Russia, but Putin has been the most effective leader in my lifetime."

I don't see anything "hateful or extreme" in an objective geopolitical analysis like that. Putin has been the most effective Russian leader in my lifetime, going back to the days of the USSR. He has elevated the quality of life for the average Russian and the availability of goods and services in a way no prior Russian leader was able to.

"What was very shocking, very disturbing was the city of Moscow, where I'd never been … it was so much nicer than any city in my country."

Have you been to San Francisco, Los Angeles, Portland, Seattle, Chicago, Saint Louis, Houston, New York, Philly, etc lately? Would you rather ride the Chicago L, the New York subway, or the Moscow subway? That's an objectively true statement. Still, nothing hateful or extreme.

"Putin does not have absolute control of his country, and there are all kinds of potential rivals. He's been there for 20 years. I am definitely more sympathetic to Putin than Zelensky for the following reason: I think it's fair to judge leaders on how they do for their country,"

The first part of that is also objectively true, and true from an IC perspective. There are competing interests in Moscow just as there are in DC or in London. It is also objectively true that the path Zelensky has charted for Ukraine has been disastrous for the average Ukrainian compared to the one that Putin charted for Russia with respect to his own citizens. Again, nothing hateful or extreme.

Stated that any strike on Iran's nuclear facilities would "almost certainly result in thousands of American deaths at bases throughout the Middle East"

He was wrong in that analysis and has admitted as much. Again, nothing hateful or extreme. It was a concern that many shared.

Quote:

He claimed Biden is more evil than Putin during that same interview.


...and? It's pretty clear that Biden damaged America far more in four years than Putin has in 20.

Interviewing people you don't like doesn't make someone hateful or extreme. But you're very quick to throw around terms like "anti-semitic" simply because people don't share your opinions.

No, what you are actually looking for are quotations that lack context because you believe that will make it easier to try and disprove my point. I assumed as much, and of course, this post confirmed same.

The point on Russia, as I suggested above, is that Carlson is so knee deep in Russia bull**** propaganda that it allows him to say something extreme like, there is no nicer city in the US than Moscow. Notice, he didn't simply say the cities you mentioned. Instead, he is referring to every city in America, and his position is Moscow is nicer than all of them. That is of course consistent with the Russian bull**** he has been pedaling since the Russian invasion - that we are some deeply flawed country with an evil leader, while Russia is some bastion of wealth, prosperity and good leadership.

With respect to Putin, it is simply utter bull**** to suggest it is objectively true that he has any real rivals for his position. Russia has been jailing or killing any dissent for years, to the point that the opposition is either locked away, or living abroad, hoping to avoid getting poisoned or worse. There hasn't been a free and fair election in Russia in decades. This is objectively true.

With respect to Zelensky, the idea that it is objectively true that a smaller and weaker nation that has been attacked by Russia is in worse shape because of Zelensky is called an opinion, and its an absurd one at that. As Cuomo attempted to point out to Tucker, kind of difficult to make that assessment when the nation at issue is under attack by the much bigger nuclear power, and it's also hard to blame Zelensky on that - given the plans to invade were in motion long before Zelensky was elected. As I told Sam on another thread, it's like blaming the beaten wife for being in the bad shape she is in.

If you thought I was suggesting merely interviewing horrid people makes one hateful or extreme, you're not a very good reader. It's not a mere interview that makes someone extreme and hateful (and indeed, we know from Tuckers own mouth he hates many, many people, especially Jews and those who support them). It's agreeing with them, touting them, and saying their views are valid. That's what Tucker does with regularity, as I pointed out in my previous post.

So again, I understand why you would like to cherry pick and take quotes out of context while ignoring the overall point. I would submit you're being intellectually dishonest.
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Realitybites said:

Mothra said:

Realitybites said:

Once again, you've given a list of your opinions about Tucker Carlson.

I'm looking for complete, unedited, in context sourced quotes that substantiate your charges against him. Not "he did this", or "he called a country this."

That seems to be something that you, Shapiro, and the rest of his critics seem to be incapable of providing.

Do you know what this symbol means: " ?

This is called a quotation mark, and it generally surrounds language that is what we would call a "quote."

And if you will review what I wrote, you will see a number of quotations (plural of quote) of Tucker Carlson's exact words.

Now, typically it helps to have the context for a statement, and I've provided that for you. But if you will try to be a little less obtuse, you can avoid the context and see the exact quote.

I hope this helps.

I'm looking for complete, unedited, in context sourced quotes that substantiate your charges against him. Lets look at the few that you provided.

"I'm not moving to Russia, but Putin has been the most effective leader in my lifetime."

I don't see anything "hateful or extreme" in an objective geopolitical analysis like that. Putin has been the most effective Russian leader in my lifetime, going back to the days of the USSR. He has elevated the quality of life for the average Russian and the availability of goods and services in a way no prior Russian leader was able to.

"What was very shocking, very disturbing was the city of Moscow, where I'd never been … it was so much nicer than any city in my country."

Have you been to San Francisco, Los Angeles, Portland, Seattle, Chicago, Saint Louis, Houston, New York, Philly, etc lately? Would you rather ride the Chicago L, the New York subway, or the Moscow subway? That's an objectively true statement. Still, nothing hateful or extreme.

"Putin does not have absolute control of his country, and there are all kinds of potential rivals. He's been there for 20 years. I am definitely more sympathetic to Putin than Zelensky for the following reason: I think it's fair to judge leaders on how they do for their country,"

The first part of that is also objectively true, and true from an IC perspective. There are competing interests in Moscow just as there are in DC or in London. It is also objectively true that the path Zelensky has charted for Ukraine has been disastrous for the average Ukrainian compared to the one that Putin charted for Russia with respect to his own citizens. Again, nothing hateful or extreme.

Stated that any strike on Iran's nuclear facilities would "almost certainly result in thousands of American deaths at bases throughout the Middle East"

He was wrong in that analysis and has admitted as much. Again, nothing hateful or extreme. It was a concern that many shared.

Quote:

He claimed Biden is more evil than Putin during that same interview.


...and? It's pretty clear that Biden damaged America far more in four years than Putin has in 20.

Interviewing people you don't like doesn't make someone hateful or extreme. But you're very quick to throw around terms like "anti-semitic" simply because people don't share your opinions.
Excellent post.
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Sam Lowry said:

Realitybites said:

Mothra said:

Realitybites said:

Once again, you've given a list of your opinions about Tucker Carlson.

I'm looking for complete, unedited, in context sourced quotes that substantiate your charges against him. Not "he did this", or "he called a country this."

That seems to be something that you, Shapiro, and the rest of his critics seem to be incapable of providing.

Do you know what this symbol means: " ?

This is called a quotation mark, and it generally surrounds language that is what we would call a "quote."

And if you will review what I wrote, you will see a number of quotations (plural of quote) of Tucker Carlson's exact words.

Now, typically it helps to have the context for a statement, and I've provided that for you. But if you will try to be a little less obtuse, you can avoid the context and see the exact quote.

I hope this helps.

I'm looking for complete, unedited, in context sourced quotes that substantiate your charges against him. Lets look at the few that you provided.

"I'm not moving to Russia, but Putin has been the most effective leader in my lifetime."

I don't see anything "hateful or extreme" in an objective geopolitical analysis like that. Putin has been the most effective Russian leader in my lifetime, going back to the days of the USSR. He has elevated the quality of life for the average Russian and the availability of goods and services in a way no prior Russian leader was able to.

"What was very shocking, very disturbing was the city of Moscow, where I'd never been … it was so much nicer than any city in my country."

Have you been to San Francisco, Los Angeles, Portland, Seattle, Chicago, Saint Louis, Houston, New York, Philly, etc lately? Would you rather ride the Chicago L, the New York subway, or the Moscow subway? That's an objectively true statement. Still, nothing hateful or extreme.

"Putin does not have absolute control of his country, and there are all kinds of potential rivals. He's been there for 20 years. I am definitely more sympathetic to Putin than Zelensky for the following reason: I think it's fair to judge leaders on how they do for their country,"

The first part of that is also objectively true, and true from an IC perspective. There are competing interests in Moscow just as there are in DC or in London. It is also objectively true that the path Zelensky has charted for Ukraine has been disastrous for the average Ukrainian compared to the one that Putin charted for Russia with respect to his own citizens. Again, nothing hateful or extreme.

Stated that any strike on Iran's nuclear facilities would "almost certainly result in thousands of American deaths at bases throughout the Middle East"

He was wrong in that analysis and has admitted as much. Again, nothing hateful or extreme. It was a concern that many shared.

Quote:

He claimed Biden is more evil than Putin during that same interview.


...and? It's pretty clear that Biden damaged America far more in four years than Putin has in 20.

Interviewing people you don't like doesn't make someone hateful or extreme. But you're very quick to throw around terms like "anti-semitic" simply because people don't share your opinions.

Excellent post.

From one anti-American Russian cuck to another...
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Mothra said:

Sam Lowry said:

Realitybites said:

Mothra said:

Realitybites said:

Once again, you've given a list of your opinions about Tucker Carlson.

I'm looking for complete, unedited, in context sourced quotes that substantiate your charges against him. Not "he did this", or "he called a country this."

That seems to be something that you, Shapiro, and the rest of his critics seem to be incapable of providing.

Do you know what this symbol means: " ?

This is called a quotation mark, and it generally surrounds language that is what we would call a "quote."

And if you will review what I wrote, you will see a number of quotations (plural of quote) of Tucker Carlson's exact words.

Now, typically it helps to have the context for a statement, and I've provided that for you. But if you will try to be a little less obtuse, you can avoid the context and see the exact quote.

I hope this helps.

I'm looking for complete, unedited, in context sourced quotes that substantiate your charges against him. Lets look at the few that you provided.

"I'm not moving to Russia, but Putin has been the most effective leader in my lifetime."

I don't see anything "hateful or extreme" in an objective geopolitical analysis like that. Putin has been the most effective Russian leader in my lifetime, going back to the days of the USSR. He has elevated the quality of life for the average Russian and the availability of goods and services in a way no prior Russian leader was able to.

"What was very shocking, very disturbing was the city of Moscow, where I'd never been … it was so much nicer than any city in my country."

Have you been to San Francisco, Los Angeles, Portland, Seattle, Chicago, Saint Louis, Houston, New York, Philly, etc lately? Would you rather ride the Chicago L, the New York subway, or the Moscow subway? That's an objectively true statement. Still, nothing hateful or extreme.

"Putin does not have absolute control of his country, and there are all kinds of potential rivals. He's been there for 20 years. I am definitely more sympathetic to Putin than Zelensky for the following reason: I think it's fair to judge leaders on how they do for their country,"

The first part of that is also objectively true, and true from an IC perspective. There are competing interests in Moscow just as there are in DC or in London. It is also objectively true that the path Zelensky has charted for Ukraine has been disastrous for the average Ukrainian compared to the one that Putin charted for Russia with respect to his own citizens. Again, nothing hateful or extreme.

Stated that any strike on Iran's nuclear facilities would "almost certainly result in thousands of American deaths at bases throughout the Middle East"

He was wrong in that analysis and has admitted as much. Again, nothing hateful or extreme. It was a concern that many shared.

Quote:

He claimed Biden is more evil than Putin during that same interview.


...and? It's pretty clear that Biden damaged America far more in four years than Putin has in 20.

Interviewing people you don't like doesn't make someone hateful or extreme. But you're very quick to throw around terms like "anti-semitic" simply because people don't share your opinions.

Excellent post.

From one anti-American Russian cuck to another...


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