Tucker's attempt to normalize Nick Fuentes

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BigGameBaylorBear
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Wait some of you don't believe that Israel is committing genocide in the West Bank? Lmao
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The_barBEARian said:

Sam Lowry said:

Just sickening. What's wrong with you?


I like to laugh?

BTW, the stories of lampshades and soap made out of human remains that Hollywood indoctrinated Americans with my entire life were all fiction. It never happened.

https://ia800801.us.archive.org/2/items/OfficialEndOfThenazisUsedHumanSkinHolocaustLegend/OfficialEndOfThenazisUsedHumanSkinHolocaustLegend.pdf

Wrong.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cdx9l4x7xjno
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Sam Lowry said:

The_barBEARian said:

Sam Lowry said:

Just sickening. What's wrong with you?


I like to laugh?

BTW, the stories of lampshades and soap made out of human remains that Hollywood indoctrinated Americans with my entire life were all fiction. It never happened.

https://ia800801.us.archive.org/2/items/OfficialEndOfThenazisUsedHumanSkinHolocaustLegend/OfficialEndOfThenazisUsedHumanSkinHolocaustLegend.pdf

Wrong.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cdx9l4x7xjno


When they originally tested that lamp in the 90ties they said it was plastic... then 30 years later jews are now telling us no wait it really is human skin... and there is even this additional piece that has been sitting in an attic in the UK for 80ty years to prove it!

The holocaust tourism industry is a multi-million dollar industry so there is a strong financial incentive to spread these lies... ofc when they get caught lying it in turn calls into question what else have they been lying about?

I trust the first hand testimony of the American General/Military Governor who investigated these claims at the end of the war.

Lampshades made from human skin

After the defeat of Nazi Germany, claims circulated that Ilse Koch, wife of the commandant of Buchenwald concentration camp, had possessed lampshades made of human skin and had tattooed prisoners killed specifically in order to use their skin for this purpose. After her conviction for war crimes, General Lucius D. Clay, the interim military governor of the American Zone in Germany, reduced her sentence to four years' prison on the grounds "there was no convincing evidence that she had selected Nazi concentration camp inmates for extermination in order to secure tattooed skins, or that she possessed any articles made of human skin." Jean Edward Smith, in his biography Lucius D. Clay, an American Life, reported that the general had maintained that the leather lamp shades were really made out of goat skin. The book quotes a statement made by General Clay years later:

There was absolutely no evidence in the trial transcript, other than she was a rather loathsome creature, that would support the death sentence. I suppose I received more abuse for that than for anything else I did in Germany. Some reporter had called her the "***** of Buchenwald", had written that she had lamp shades made of human skin in her house. And that was introduced in court, where it was absolutely proven that the lamp shades were made out of goat skin.
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It is hard to believe that a thread which began with a false accusation that Tucker Carlson was a Hitler-loving-antisemite has ended up readjudicating the holocaust…but here we are.
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Realitybites said:

It is hard to believe that a thread which began with a false accusation that Tucker Carlson was a Hitler-loving-antisemite has ended up readjudicating the holocaust…but here we are.


Lmao. You crack me up. You can't make a cogent argument on this topic to save your life so then you just start making **** up.
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boognish_bear said:




Kelly walks more fences than anyone I've ever seen. Wont make a judgment call at all on whether targeting a widow and her husbands company with baseless accusations of being involved in his murder is wrong, but then gets profane and *****y when someone has the balls to call her and the pudgy doughboy out on it.

Ben was right. She has no spine at all.
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BigGameBaylorBear said:

Wait some of you don't believe that Israel is committing genocide in the West Bank? Lmao


So they're not targeting civilians - despite the fact Hamas likes to use civilians as human shields, have delivered thousands of tons of food and humanitarian aid, warn the population to leave the areas before a military strike , but that is somehow genocide? Have you ever studied what an actual genocide looks like?

Again, I'm no fan of Netanyahu and I believe he probably took the campaign too far, but we should be careful when we toss around such words. I suppose genocide is now like the term racist - it's completely lost its meaning.
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Sam Lowry said:

Mothra said:

Sam Lowry said:

Mothra said:

Sam Lowry said:

Mothra said:

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Not a surprise. Tucker plays into the grievance culture and identity politics that have taken ahold of young "conservatives," if you can even call them that. Does things the Groypers like, such as minimize Hitler's culpability, and regularly attacks the Jews - their bogeyman, responsible for their lot in life (i.e. inability to find a good wife, afford a house, find a good job, etc.). Sure, Israel is not saint, and there are many things we can justifiably criticize, but young white men have what I believe is a demonically-influenced obsession and hatred for the Jews.

But the real problem here isn't the racism and identity politics that Tucker plays into. It's the lack of faith among this new generation. When I was in school, most of my friends and acquaintances identified as Christian. Certainly, most were not, but they at least had a modicum of respect for Christ's teachings, and purported to adhere to such beliefs.

Few of today's youngsters even claim to be Christians. We attended a large church for a bit in North Austin, and I helped lead some of the high school small groups, and even among those who attended church, few of the teens were Christians. It's even worse in public school of course. There is no reverence or belief in God. So, when you have a group of young men that lack a foundation, and see the chips stacked against them, they find a convenient (albeit, misguided) bogeyman. And I think that hated is guided by spiritual forces, as a believer.

That said, the young man in this post is wrong about how much support people like Tucker have, and how much support people like Shapiro have. Shapiro's main demographic is 40-50 somethings, while Tucker's demographic - at least at the time he left Fox - were indeed boomers, with the largest over 60. No doubt Tucker is now saying some things to capture a younger audience, but his audience is mostly boomers.

As with all things, we always overestimate how many hold our beliefs. I used to be guilty of same. This young man, full of piss and vinegar, is guilty of that.

I've never seen Tucker attacking Jews.

He had the highest rating on Fox among the 25-54 demographic. Most of his viewers were older, but so is the prime time audience in general.


You need to watch him more apparently. He's done so repeatedly and also promotes people who deny or minimize the Holocaust.

Shame on him for promoting Fuentes, but as far as Tucker's own statements, I think you're conflating his criticism of Israel with criticism of Jewish people. That's the same error of which Barbearian is guilty.


Not at all. One can be critical of Israel and not be antisemitic.

I would suggest delving deeper into some of the things he said. I've mentioned them above. And there are many more.

That said, when he says completed unfounded things like the Israeli government is committing genocide, and you take that statement and put it in context to the other things he said or suggested, it certainly does suggest he's antisemitic.

And I say that is someone who thinks Netanyahu is a despicable person.
Those statements are only controversial among pro-Israel partisans. Every objective review of the facts has concluded that they are committing genocide.


No true Scotsman fallacy
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Mothra said:

BigGameBaylorBear said:

Wait some of you don't believe that Israel is committing genocide in the West Bank? Lmao


So they're not targeting civilians - despite the fact Hamas likes to use civilians as human shields, have delivered thousands of tons of food and humanitarian aid, warn the population to leave the areas before a military strike , but that is somehow genocide? Have you ever studied what an actual genocide looks like?

Again, I'm no fan of Netanyahu and I believe he probably took the campaign too far, but we should be careful when we toss around such words. I suppose genocide is now like the term racist - it's completely lost its meaning.
It's been well documented by the UN. You know, the body that defined the term under international law.
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Sam Lowry said:

Mothra said:

BigGameBaylorBear said:

Wait some of you don't believe that Israel is committing genocide in the West Bank? Lmao


So they're not targeting civilians - despite the fact Hamas likes to use civilians as human shields, have delivered thousands of tons of food and humanitarian aid, warn the population to leave the areas before a military strike , but that is somehow genocide? Have you ever studied what an actual genocide looks like?

Again, I'm no fan of Netanyahu and I believe he probably took the campaign too far, but we should be careful when we toss around such words. I suppose genocide is now like the term racist - it's completely lost its meaning.
It's been well documented by the UN. You know, the body that defined the term under international law.


We talking about the same Human Rights council that has Chinese and Iranian diplomats serving on same, and whose findings were roundly disputed with evidence to the contrary? We talking about the same body that had denounced the Russian aggression in Ukraine you support?
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Mothra said:

BigGameBaylorBear said:

Wait some of you don't believe that Israel is committing genocide in the West Bank? Lmao


So they're not targeting civilians - despite the fact Hamas likes to use civilians as human shields, have delivered thousands of tons of food and humanitarian aid, warn the population to leave the areas before a military strike , but that is somehow genocide? Have you ever studied what an actual genocide looks like?

Again, I'm no fan of Netanyahu and I believe he probably took the campaign too far, but we should be careful when we toss around such words. I suppose genocide is now like the term racist - it's completely lost its meaning.


Yes they are, and you're a fool to think otherwise. Hamas uses human shields but the Israelis are an unimaginably cruel people who have inflicted hell on the civilians in Gaza.

If this isn't genocide/ethnic cleansing than neither is the holocaust
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Few things prove an egregious bias better than comparing any self-defense action by Israel to the Holocaust against the Jews.

Absolute garbage and lies, that.
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Oldbear83 said:

Few things prove an egregious bias better than comparing any self-defense action by Israel to the Holocaust against the Jews.

Absolute garbage and lies, that.




Gooood ol self defense
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BigGameBaylorBear said:

Oldbear83 said:

Few things prove an egregious bias better than comparing any self-defense action by Israel to the Holocaust against the Jews.

Absolute garbage and lies, that.




Gooood ol self defense

October 7!!!
Who started it?
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people forget that
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BigGameBaylorBear said:

Oldbear83 said:

Few things prove an egregious bias better than comparing any self-defense action by Israel to the Holocaust against the Jews.

Absolute garbage and lies, that.




Gooood ol self defense

Lol, AP as trustworthy.
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Osodecentx said:

BigGameBaylorBear said:

Oldbear83 said:

Few things prove an egregious bias better than comparing any self-defense action by Israel to the Holocaust against the Jews.

Absolute garbage and lies, that.




Gooood ol self defense

October 7!!!
Who started it?


Excellent point!

Israel had never killed a single Palestinian child before Oct 7.

Up until Oct 7 there had been 80 years of peace and comraderie. The entire area had been a utopia and an example to the rest of the world of how to co-exist and love each other.

The US had never had to send troops or spend a dime in military or economic assistance for Israel bcs everything was so copecetic and harmonious.
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Oldbear83 said:

BigGameBaylorBear said:

Oldbear83 said:

Few things prove an egregious bias better than comparing any self-defense action by Israel to the Holocaust against the Jews.

Absolute garbage and lies, that.




Gooood ol self defense

Lol, AP as trustworthy.


Ya the footage attached must be ai…

Who would you prefer I get my news from? Laura Loomer? The Daily Wire?
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BigGameBaylorBear said:

Oldbear83 said:

BigGameBaylorBear said:

Oldbear83 said:

Few things prove an egregious bias better than comparing any self-defense action by Israel to the Holocaust against the Jews.

Absolute garbage and lies, that.




Gooood ol self defense

Lol, AP as trustworthy.


Ya the footage attached must be ai…

Who would you prefer I get my news from? Laura Loomer? The Daily Wire?

As long as AP edits before release, count me cynical. I know their track record.

You of course, believe anything as long as it's antisemitic.
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What color is the sky is Naziland, mein herr?
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Oldbear83 said:

BigGameBaylorBear said:

Oldbear83 said:

BigGameBaylorBear said:

Oldbear83 said:

Few things prove an egregious bias better than comparing any self-defense action by Israel to the Holocaust against the Jews.

Absolute garbage and lies, that.




Gooood ol self defense

Lol, AP as trustworthy.


Ya the footage attached must be ai…

Who would you prefer I get my news from? Laura Loomer? The Daily Wire?

As long as AP edits before release, count me cynical. I know their track record.

You of course, believe anything as long as it's antisemitic.


A video of war-torn Gaza counts as anti-semitism now? LMAO

Don't you find it a little suspicious that Israel won't allow independent journalists into Gaza?

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I find you more than sus.

Expect you have a closet full of brown shirts, mein herr.
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Jack Bauer said:




I used to like Vivek but he has turned into Brown Ben Shapiro lecturing Legacy Americans on what it means to be American...
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Oldbear83 said:

I find you more than sus.

Expect you have a closet full of brown shirts, mein herr.


When is the last time the orderly at the nursing home kicked the crap out of you?

Its long overdue.
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fuentes is such a loser tho lol
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Mothra said:

Sam Lowry said:

Mothra said:

BigGameBaylorBear said:

Wait some of you don't believe that Israel is committing genocide in the West Bank? Lmao


So they're not targeting civilians - despite the fact Hamas likes to use civilians as human shields, have delivered thousands of tons of food and humanitarian aid, warn the population to leave the areas before a military strike , but that is somehow genocide? Have you ever studied what an actual genocide looks like?

Again, I'm no fan of Netanyahu and I believe he probably took the campaign too far, but we should be careful when we toss around such words. I suppose genocide is now like the term racist - it's completely lost its meaning.

It's been well documented by the UN. You know, the body that defined the term under international law.


We talking about the same Human Rights council that has Chinese and Iranian diplomats serving on same, and whose findings were roundly disputed with evidence to the contrary? We talking about the same body that had denounced the Russian aggression in Ukraine you support?

Lots of countries. That's why they call it the UN.
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Bearsalwayswin said:

fuentes is such a loser tho lol


I'm all for him going after power - Trump, Ben Shapiro, and the likes but the casual racism just diminishes his message. I know he is a smart guy but he loses credibility calling the 2nd Lady of the US a "jeet".
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The_barBEARian said:

Oldbear83 said:

I find you more than sus.

Expect you have a closet full of brown shirts, mein herr.


When is the last time the orderly at the nursing home kicked the crap out of you?

Its long overdue.

Sooooooooooooooo many mistakes in your post:

1. I am not in a nursing home (perhaps you are in a facility, that would explain a lot)

2. Orderlies do not as a rule 'kick the crap' out of residents (although again you may have experienced such, which again would explain some of your behavior)

3. I notice you did not actually deny having a closet full of brownshirts

4. You also continue to exhibit anti-semitic opinions consistently.

Btw, I may have found an old photo of you and a buddy in your glory days:

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The_barBEARian said:

Osodecentx said:

BigGameBaylorBear said:

Oldbear83 said:

Few things prove an egregious bias better than comparing any self-defense action by Israel to the Holocaust against the Jews.

Absolute garbage and lies, that.




Gooood ol self defense

October 7!!!
Who started it?


Excellent point!

Israel had never killed a single Palestinian child before Oct 7.

Up until Oct 7 there had been 80 years of peace and comraderie. The entire area had been a utopia and an example to the rest of the world of how to co-exist and love each other.

The US had never had to send troops or spend a dime in military or economic assistance for Israel bcs everything was so copecetic and harmonious.


German ruins after WW2

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Realitybites said:

Mothra said:

Realitybites said:

whiterock said:

The_barBEARian said:

Every day I read about a new jewish terror attack from the beginning of the 20th century that I had never heard about before.



If international jewry was responsible for communism, why isn't Israel a communist state?


Probably because of the failure of the kibbutzim. By the 1980s, most had been privatized.


Israel has never been on a path toward communism. They've had a few liberal prime ministers over the years, but the idea that they've ever toyed with or considered communism is just utter bull*****


You know, at this point you're just a Zionist shill.

Clearly, Israel history shows that many residents of that country held collectivist views, which is why there were some 275 Kibbutz formed. It's also clear that the decline in support for Labor and Meretz (forcing a merger) shows there are far fewer ones today than there used to be 75 years ago.

But you can't even discuss objective facts about Israeli history, or the US-Israeli relationship without interjecting a "Reeeeeeeeeeeeeee! Anti-semite!"

yeah, you are.

study just some basic history about when the kibbutz arose (in agrarian Ottoman society) and why (as collective protection against islamic law which treats non-muslims as second-class citizens). It was a pioneering survival model for highly marginalized communities which had absolutely nothing to do with communism. More to the point, at no time has the Jewish political authority ever imposed the kibbutz system on anyone (which cannot be said for soviet-style socialism).

If you don't like being called an anti-semite, quit quoting anti-semitic tropes.
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The_barBEARian said:

whiterock said:

The_barBEARian said:

Every day I read about a new jewish terror attack from the beginning of the 20th century that I had never heard about before.



If international jewry was responsible for communism, why isn't Israel a communist state?


Communism is just a tool used to take power... just bcs they promoted communism doesnt mean they actually believe in it.

They certainly dont have any shame about taking other countries money, which is a very communist attitude to take.

They've sucked Germany dry with a trillion in reparations and sucked US tax payers dry for another trillion by exploiting the vulnerabilities in the US political system.

LOL. at what point did the kibbutz take over political power and force everyone else to join along.....or else?

"sucked dry." Israel has stolen the entire wealth of Germany AND the USA? Are you mad?

Actually, yes. You are mad.

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BigGameBaylorBear said:

Mothra said:

BigGameBaylorBear said:

Wait some of you don't believe that Israel is committing genocide in the West Bank? Lmao


So they're not targeting civilians - despite the fact Hamas likes to use civilians as human shields, have delivered thousands of tons of food and humanitarian aid, warn the population to leave the areas before a military strike , but that is somehow genocide? Have you ever studied what an actual genocide looks like?

Again, I'm no fan of Netanyahu and I believe he probably took the campaign too far, but we should be careful when we toss around such words. I suppose genocide is now like the term racist - it's completely lost its meaning.


Yes they are, and you're a fool to think otherwise. Hamas uses human shields but the Israelis are an unimaginably cruel people who have inflicted hell on the civilians in Gaza.

If this isn't genocide/ethnic cleansing than neither is the holocaust


Sorry, but they're simply is no good or overwhelming evidence to support your position. It's completely baseless and no doubt influenced by your bias.
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BigGameBaylorBear said:

Oldbear83 said:

Few things prove an egregious bias better than comparing any self-defense action by Israel to the Holocaust against the Jews.

Absolute garbage and lies, that.




Gooood ol self defense


I've seen numerous territories that are war torn that look like that. Often times that is the result of war, especially when the fighters don't value civilian life and hide among them. That is circumstantial evidence at best of genocide

But it sure does pull on the emotional heart strings. I'll give you that.
 
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