Tucker's attempt to normalize Nick Fuentes

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The_barBEARian said:

historian said:

What a shock! Who could have seen that coming????


We are taking the Israel First Republican party behind the barn and putting it out of its misery.

I voted the last 8 or 9 elections down ticket Republican. I'm sitting it out in November. The Iran war was the last straw for me. You ******* Boomers are so damn obsessed with serving the jews you'll let this country go to hell and fall to pieces for your lunatic aspirations of Greater Israel

Once again you prove your critics correct with more ignorant, straw man, foolish trash. Your latest errors:

-The GOP is "Israel first" only in your fevered imagination.
-I'm not a boomer. I have no idea why you would make such an assumption.
-You are so obsessed with blaming Jews for everything you cannot see how stupid that is.
-I have no particular aspirations for Israel beyond their survival and successful defense against those who attack them. I have the same goals for the people of every nation allied to the US. Again, don't make assumptions.
-Resorting to childish insults is a sure sign that you've lost the debate. I don't know why you keep posting so much trash so often.

You insist on proving daily how irrational and foolish bigotry is! By all means, keep posting this kind of garbage just in case there is anyone who has to doubts. Some people will enjoy laughing at your foolishness. I will hope you eventually come around to reality.
historian
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All good points. The only explanation I can offer now is the same I keep offering: bigotry is irrational. It's a vain effort to expect people overcome by bigotry to suddenly become rational. The more they wallow in that gutter the more it will infect everything they say and do with disastrous results, first to themselves and eventually to others.
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They can become consumed by their bigotry and hatred. Ironically, those attitudes can lead to one becoming a real Nazi or the modern equivalent over time.
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Mothra said:

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Mothra said:

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Mothra said:

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Mothra said:

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Anyone know what legislation or issues Massie actually supports? I get the professional contrarian thing. But other than opposing any spending (something I appreciate) and being an isolationist (something I find foolish), I am not sure why people get so excited about him. Yes, he authored the Epstein Act, and insinuated some massive govt. coverup of elites, but nothing at all has materialized.


Here is you questioning what Massie supports. What does Marco Rubio support? By all means, he shifts his views to whatever is popular in the Republican Party.

I don't believe I ever suggest in that quote that Massie has no real beliefs, but ok. I do think Massie is a libertarian, and contrarian.

I gave a list above of the things Rubio supports. I am not sure why you believe he shifts his views to whatever is popular. Can you give several examples?


You say frequently use "contrarian" as if it's a bad thing. What's wrong with challenging the status quo?

Rubio was a Reagan-style conservative who was a major critic of Trump (similar to the rest of the party). He goes with what's popular in the party at the moment. I prefer independent thinkers.


Being a contrarian and really having no defined policy positions as a problem. Being a contrary, and for sake of being a contrary and is a problem. Government is about compromise. We don't get to take our ball and go home.

Ask for Rubio, your complaint is that he is now aligned with Trump? Really???. Well I guess that excluded MTG in Massey as well as they were once strongly aligned with him.


No because Trump was based at one point, now he's certified goyim.


Why didn't you just come out and say it's because of his position on the Jews. You could agree with him on everything else, but that one issue is a dealbreaker for you guys.

You guys are one note Johnny's


Because it's wrong. I have criticized Trump for tariffs, BBB, low deportations, Epstein debacle, Covid lockdowns, BLM debacle, suspicious family business dealings, AND being a goyim.

Yet, the straw that broke the camel's back was the Jews. And therein lies my point. That one issue is all-consuming for you. It's incredible to me that you guys let your hatred of Israel skew everything else.

Here's the question: When you stop voting Republican, what is your plan for preventing the leftist tyranny that we know will inevitably result?


No, it wasn't the "Jews". I distinctly remember viewing Trump unfavorably before the "12-Day War" in 2025. How are you going to tell me what issue is most consuming for me? And so what if it is? Israelis are genocidal maniacs




That's my expression when I see boomers cry about Nazis but ignore genocidal Israelis

I've never even see you condemn the Nazis, but that's a subject for another day.

The idea that Israel is doing to Gaza what the Nazis did to Jews is just a pure work of fiction. There is no evidence to support the former. There is substantial evidence of the latter.


Well… oh nvm
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Bruisers Burner Phone said:

The_barBEARian said:

historian said:

What a shock! Who could have seen that coming????


We are taking the Israel First Republican party behind the barn and putting it out of its misery.

I voted the last 8 or 9 elections down ticket Republican. I'm sitting it out in November. The Iran war was the last straw for me. You ******* Boomers are so damn obsessed with serving the jews you'll let this country go to hell and fall to pieces for your lunatic aspirations of Greater Israel

It isn't about serving the Jews; It's about furthering our national interest (i.e. dismantling and inhibiting a nuclear Iran who has vowed to destroy us). But when our interests align, and Isreal will actually do things that further our national interest (bombing Iran, destroying Hesbolah), we shouldn't decline because they are Jews.

Your test seems to be "Will this action help the Jews? If so, don't do it." I'm saying the test should be "Does this help the US? If so, do it."


Spending a trillion dollars on a pointless foreign war for the benefit of another country does NOT benefit the United States, with our historic debt-to-GDP ratio and $40 trillion deficit.

What would benefit the US tremendously would be Israel paying back some of the money they've taken... when do you estimate we will actually benefit from this "alliance"?

North Korea "vowed to destroy us". We didnt go to war with North Korea, they have nukes now, and the world is still spinning

Fox News, the defense contractors, the corrupt politicians all prey of the fear and stupidity of Boomers

If you Boomers really cared about stopping Jihadism you would fight them in Western Europe, where the American Empire has had complete control since WW2. You would have protested the Clinton administration bombing the Serbs in the 90ties or you'd be protesting the Trump admin today for not sending guns and ammo to the rioters in Belfast so they can overthrow the government there and violently evict the Islamic foreigners...

Instead you seem to only care about whoever Israel tells you to care about... if Iran is defeated and Israel completes their genocide and annexs Lebanon, Gaza, and the West Bank it'll be Egypt, Syria, and Turkey next and you Boomers (if you are still alive) will be whining about what a threat those countries are and how Turkey cant be allowed to have nuclear weapons

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Bruisers Burner Phone said:

The_barBEARian said:

historian said:

What a shock! Who could have seen that coming????


We are taking the Israel First Republican party behind the barn and putting it out of its misery.

I voted the last 8 or 9 elections down ticket Republican. I'm sitting it out in November. The Iran war was the last straw for me. You ******* Boomers are so damn obsessed with serving the jews you'll let this country go to hell and fall to pieces for your lunatic aspirations of Greater Israel

It isn't about serving the Jews; It's about furthering our national interest (i.e. dismantling and inhibiting a nuclear Iran who has vowed to destroy us). But when our interests align, and Isreal will actually do things that further our national interest (bombing Iran, destroying Hesbolah), we shouldn't decline because they are Jews.

Your test seems to be "Will this action help the Jews? If so, don't do it." I'm saying the test should be "Does this help the US? If so, do it."


The biggest threat to America's national security is the US and Western Europe losing their white majority populations and being ethnically replaced by immigrants from the 3rd world, yes or no?

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The_barBEARian said:

Bruisers Burner Phone said:

The_barBEARian said:

historian said:

What a shock! Who could have seen that coming????


We are taking the Israel First Republican party behind the barn and putting it out of its misery.

I voted the last 8 or 9 elections down ticket Republican. I'm sitting it out in November. The Iran war was the last straw for me. You ******* Boomers are so damn obsessed with serving the jews you'll let this country go to hell and fall to pieces for your lunatic aspirations of Greater Israel

It isn't about serving the Jews; It's about furthering our national interest (i.e. dismantling and inhibiting a nuclear Iran who has vowed to destroy us). But when our interests align, and Isreal will actually do things that further our national interest (bombing Iran, destroying Hesbolah), we shouldn't decline because they are Jews.

Your test seems to be "Will this action help the Jews? If so, don't do it." I'm saying the test should be "Does this help the US? If so, do it."


Spending a trillion dollars on a pointless foreign war for the benefit of another country does NOT benefit the United States, with our historic debt-to-GDP ratio and $40 trillion deficit.

What would benefit the US tremendously would be Israel paying back some of the money they've taken... when do you estimate we will actually benefit from this "alliance"?

North Korea "vowed to destroy us". We didnt go to war with North Korea, they have nukes now, and the world is still spinning

Fox News, the defense contractors, the corrupt politicians all prey of the fear and stupidity of Boomers

If you Boomers really cared about stopping Jihadism you would fight them in Western Europe, where the American Empire has had complete control since WW2. You would have protested the Clinton administration bombing the Serbs in the 90ties or you'd be protesting the Trump admin today for not sending guns and ammo to the rioters in Belfast so they can overthrow the government there and violently evict the Islamic foreigners...

Instead you seem to only care about whoever Israel tells you to care about... if Iran is defeated and Israel completes their genocide and annexs Lebanon, Gaza, and the West Bank it'll be Egypt, Syria, and Turkey next and you Boomers (if you are still alive) will be whining about what a threat those countries are and how Turkey cant be allowed to have nuclear weapons

North Korea doesn't yet have a reliable, proven capability to strike the U.S. mainland at scale. The fact that "nothing has happened" so far doesn't prove it won't.

North Korea only became a nuclear-armed state relatively recently, with lots of help from us, and the long-term stability of that situation is still an open question. In short, your pointing to that one example and trying to extrapolate that Iran will behave in exactly the same manner is just stupid. Different regimes have different motivations and risk tolerances. You can't assume every government will behave identically under nuclear deterrence. Treating one case as a universal model is silly.

Thankfully, NK doesn't have the religious zealot motivations that Iran does. They know God will not protect them from a counterstrike. The Iranians on the other hand...?
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historian said:

The_barBEARian said:

historian said:

What a shock! Who could have seen that coming????


We are taking the Israel First Republican party behind the barn and putting it out of its misery.

I voted the last 8 or 9 elections down ticket Republican. I'm sitting it out in November. The Iran war was the last straw for me. You ******* Boomers are so damn obsessed with serving the jews you'll let this country go to hell and fall to pieces for your lunatic aspirations of Greater Israel

Once again you prove trout critics correct with more ignorant, straw man, foolish trash. Your latest errors:

-The GOP is "Israel first" only in your fevered imagination.
-I'm not a boomer. I have no idea why you would make such an assumption.
-You are so obsessed with blaming Jews for everything you cannot see how stupid that is.
-I have no particular aspirations for Israel beyond their survival and successful defense against those who attack them. I have the same goals for the people of every nation allied to the US. Again, don't make assumptions.
-Resorting to childish insults is a sure sign that you've lost the debate. I don't know why you keep posting so much trash so often.

You insist on proving daily how irrational and foolish bigotry is! By all means, keep posting this kind of garbage just in case there is anyone who has to doubts. Some people will enjoy laughing at your foolishness. I will hope you eventually come around to reality.

The guy is an imbecile. He's incapable of addressing any issue without running it through his Jewish filter. I can't believe y'all continue to interact with him.

That said, he is indicative of a chunk of people (mostly men, mostly but not all young, mostly not particularly successful) who are all in on their victimhood narrative such that not much separates them from liberal democrats at the end of the day. They just claim victimhood for different groups. They have some of the same "oppressors." They overlap on "Boomers" (as they tend to reflexively lump almost anyone with money into that category), Israel and thus also on Gaza. Strange bedfellows in a sense, but they also have a lot in common.

Will be interesting to see how many of the incel victim boys run all the way off the socialism cliff with the Gaza loving leftists. That's what perpetual victims eventually do, because it is the obvious ideology of the perpetual victim. I suspect many of them stop short of that or come to their senses at some point - at least the ones who start having some real life success and getting laid regularly. The real losers will inevitably fall into socialism.
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The_barBEARian said:

Bruisers Burner Phone said:

The_barBEARian said:

historian said:

What a shock! Who could have seen that coming????


We are taking the Israel First Republican party behind the barn and putting it out of its misery.

I voted the last 8 or 9 elections down ticket Republican. I'm sitting it out in November. The Iran war was the last straw for me. You ******* Boomers are so damn obsessed with serving the jews you'll let this country go to hell and fall to pieces for your lunatic aspirations of Greater Israel

It isn't about serving the Jews; It's about furthering our national interest (i.e. dismantling and inhibiting a nuclear Iran who has vowed to destroy us). But when our interests align, and Isreal will actually do things that further our national interest (bombing Iran, destroying Hesbolah), we shouldn't decline because they are Jews.

Your test seems to be "Will this action help the Jews? If so, don't do it." I'm saying the test should be "Does this help the US? If so, do it."


Spending a trillion dollars on a pointless foreign war for the benefit of another country does NOT benefit the United States, with our historic debt-to-GDP ratio and $40 trillion deficit.

What would benefit the US tremendously would be Israel paying back some of the money they've taken... when do you estimate we will actually benefit from this "alliance"?

North Korea "vowed to destroy us". We didnt go to war with North Korea, they have nukes now, and the world is still spinning

Fox News, the defense contractors, the corrupt politicians all prey of the fear and stupidity of Boomers

If you Boomers really cared about stopping Jihadism you would fight them in Western Europe, where the American Empire has had complete control since WW2. You would have protested the Clinton administration bombing the Serbs in the 90ties or you'd be protesting the Trump admin today for not sending guns and ammo to the rioters in Belfast so they can overthrow the government there and violently evict the Islamic foreigners...

Instead you seem to only care about whoever Israel tells you to care about... if Iran is defeated and Israel completes their genocide and annexs Lebanon, Gaza, and the West Bank it'll be Egypt, Syria, and Turkey next and you Boomers (if you are still alive) will be whining about what a threat those countries are and how Turkey cant be allowed to have nuclear weapons




Unfortunately, our friends here have suffered through too many years of indoctrination. The Zionist media has won the propaganda war over their generation.
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Mothra said:

The_barBEARian said:

Bruisers Burner Phone said:

The_barBEARian said:

historian said:

What a shock! Who could have seen that coming????


We are taking the Israel First Republican party behind the barn and putting it out of its misery.

I voted the last 8 or 9 elections down ticket Republican. I'm sitting it out in November. The Iran war was the last straw for me. You ******* Boomers are so damn obsessed with serving the jews you'll let this country go to hell and fall to pieces for your lunatic aspirations of Greater Israel

It isn't about serving the Jews; It's about furthering our national interest (i.e. dismantling and inhibiting a nuclear Iran who has vowed to destroy us). But when our interests align, and Isreal will actually do things that further our national interest (bombing Iran, destroying Hesbolah), we shouldn't decline because they are Jews.

Your test seems to be "Will this action help the Jews? If so, don't do it." I'm saying the test should be "Does this help the US? If so, do it."


Spending a trillion dollars on a pointless foreign war for the benefit of another country does NOT benefit the United States, with our historic debt-to-GDP ratio and $40 trillion deficit.

What would benefit the US tremendously would be Israel paying back some of the money they've taken... when do you estimate we will actually benefit from this "alliance"?

North Korea "vowed to destroy us". We didnt go to war with North Korea, they have nukes now, and the world is still spinning

Fox News, the defense contractors, the corrupt politicians all prey of the fear and stupidity of Boomers

If you Boomers really cared about stopping Jihadism you would fight them in Western Europe, where the American Empire has had complete control since WW2. You would have protested the Clinton administration bombing the Serbs in the 90ties or you'd be protesting the Trump admin today for not sending guns and ammo to the rioters in Belfast so they can overthrow the government there and violently evict the Islamic foreigners...

Instead you seem to only care about whoever Israel tells you to care about... if Iran is defeated and Israel completes their genocide and annexs Lebanon, Gaza, and the West Bank it'll be Egypt, Syria, and Turkey next and you Boomers (if you are still alive) will be whining about what a threat those countries are and how Turkey cant be allowed to have nuclear weapons

North Korea doesn't yet have a reliable, proven capability to strike the U.S. mainland at scale. The fact that "nothing has happened" so far doesn't prove it won't.

North Korea only became a nuclear-armed state relatively recently, with lots of help from us, and the long-term stability of that situation is still an open question. In short, your pointing to that one example and trying to extrapolate that Iran will behave in exactly the same manner is just stupid. Different regimes have different motivations and risk tolerances. You can't assume every government will behave identically under nuclear deterrence. Treating one case as a universal model is silly.

Thankfully, NK doesn't have the religious zealot motivations that Iran does. They know God will not protect them from a counterstrike. The Iranians on the other hand...?



Ok. Fair point... Israel has been taken over by the Orthodox Extremists whose ultimate objective is genetically engineering red hefers, rebuilding the 3rd Temple, and creating Greater Israel. Do you not consider them religious zealots?

Should we not require them to sign the NPT that we are a party to? If we reigned in Israel's nuclear program many other nations in the region would be less likely to pursue them (i.e. Iran, Saudi, Turkey)

Or did your Scofield bible tell you those who bless Israel are blessed and jews are demi-gods divinely chosen by God and the insolent goyim have no right to tell them anything!
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Robert Wilson said:

historian said:

The_barBEARian said:

historian said:

What a shock! Who could have seen that coming????


We are taking the Israel First Republican party behind the barn and putting it out of its misery.

I voted the last 8 or 9 elections down ticket Republican. I'm sitting it out in November. The Iran war was the last straw for me. You ******* Boomers are so damn obsessed with serving the jews you'll let this country go to hell and fall to pieces for your lunatic aspirations of Greater Israel

Once again you prove trout critics correct with more ignorant, straw man, foolish trash. Your latest errors:

-The GOP is "Israel first" only in your fevered imagination.
-I'm not a boomer. I have no idea why you would make such an assumption.
-You are so obsessed with blaming Jews for everything you cannot see how stupid that is.
-I have no particular aspirations for Israel beyond their survival and successful defense against those who attack them. I have the same goals for the people of every nation allied to the US. Again, don't make assumptions.
-Resorting to childish insults is a sure sign that you've lost the debate. I don't know why you keep posting so much trash so often.

You insist on proving daily how irrational and foolish bigotry is! By all means, keep posting this kind of garbage just in case there is anyone who has to doubts. Some people will enjoy laughing at your foolishness. I will hope you eventually come around to reality.

The guy is an imbecile. He's incapable of addressing any issue without running it through his Jewish filter. I can't believe y'all continue to interact with him.

That said, he is indicative of a chunk of people (mostly men, mostly but not all young, mostly not particularly successful) who are all in on their victimhood narrative such that not much separates them from liberal democrats at the end of the day. They just claim victimhood for different groups. They have some of the same "oppressors." They overlap on "Boomers" (as they tend to reflexively lump almost anyone with money into that category), Israel and thus also on Gaza. Strange bedfellows in a sense, but they also have a lot in common.

Will be interesting to see how many of the incel victim boys run all the way off the socialism cliff with the Gaza loving leftists. That's what perpetual victims eventually do, because it is the obvious ideology of the perpetual victim. I suspect many of them stop short of that or come to their senses at some point - at least the ones who start having some real life success and getting laid regularly. The real losers will inevitably fall into socialism.


Success is an arbitrary term.... apparently you define success by how much fake paper money you have or how many women you've slept with. Those are pretty low standards... but hey, you're a simple goy.


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BigGameBaylorBear said:

The_barBEARian said:

Bruisers Burner Phone said:

The_barBEARian said:

historian said:

What a shock! Who could have seen that coming????


We are taking the Israel First Republican party behind the barn and putting it out of its misery.

I voted the last 8 or 9 elections down ticket Republican. I'm sitting it out in November. The Iran war was the last straw for me. You ******* Boomers are so damn obsessed with serving the jews you'll let this country go to hell and fall to pieces for your lunatic aspirations of Greater Israel

It isn't about serving the Jews; It's about furthering our national interest (i.e. dismantling and inhibiting a nuclear Iran who has vowed to destroy us). But when our interests align, and Isreal will actually do things that further our national interest (bombing Iran, destroying Hesbolah), we shouldn't decline because they are Jews.

Your test seems to be "Will this action help the Jews? If so, don't do it." I'm saying the test should be "Does this help the US? If so, do it."


Spending a trillion dollars on a pointless foreign war for the benefit of another country does NOT benefit the United States, with our historic debt-to-GDP ratio and $40 trillion deficit.

What would benefit the US tremendously would be Israel paying back some of the money they've taken... when do you estimate we will actually benefit from this "alliance"?

North Korea "vowed to destroy us". We didnt go to war with North Korea, they have nukes now, and the world is still spinning

Fox News, the defense contractors, the corrupt politicians all prey of the fear and stupidity of Boomers

If you Boomers really cared about stopping Jihadism you would fight them in Western Europe, where the American Empire has had complete control since WW2. You would have protested the Clinton administration bombing the Serbs in the 90ties or you'd be protesting the Trump admin today for not sending guns and ammo to the rioters in Belfast so they can overthrow the government there and violently evict the Islamic foreigners...

Instead you seem to only care about whoever Israel tells you to care about... if Iran is defeated and Israel completes their genocide and annexs Lebanon, Gaza, and the West Bank it'll be Egypt, Syria, and Turkey next and you Boomers (if you are still alive) will be whining about what a threat those countries are and how Turkey cant be allowed to have nuclear weapons




Unfortunately, our friends here have suffered through too many years of indoctrination. The Zionist media has won the propaganda war over their generation.

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Fox News, the ADL, and Mike Johnson all promoting a victimhood narrative of anti-semitism.
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The_barBEARian said:

Mothra said:

The_barBEARian said:

Bruisers Burner Phone said:

The_barBEARian said:

historian said:

What a shock! Who could have seen that coming????


We are taking the Israel First Republican party behind the barn and putting it out of its misery.

I voted the last 8 or 9 elections down ticket Republican. I'm sitting it out in November. The Iran war was the last straw for me. You ******* Boomers are so damn obsessed with serving the jews you'll let this country go to hell and fall to pieces for your lunatic aspirations of Greater Israel

It isn't about serving the Jews; It's about furthering our national interest (i.e. dismantling and inhibiting a nuclear Iran who has vowed to destroy us). But when our interests align, and Isreal will actually do things that further our national interest (bombing Iran, destroying Hesbolah), we shouldn't decline because they are Jews.

Your test seems to be "Will this action help the Jews? If so, don't do it." I'm saying the test should be "Does this help the US? If so, do it."


Spending a trillion dollars on a pointless foreign war for the benefit of another country does NOT benefit the United States, with our historic debt-to-GDP ratio and $40 trillion deficit.

What would benefit the US tremendously would be Israel paying back some of the money they've taken... when do you estimate we will actually benefit from this "alliance"?

North Korea "vowed to destroy us". We didnt go to war with North Korea, they have nukes now, and the world is still spinning

Fox News, the defense contractors, the corrupt politicians all prey of the fear and stupidity of Boomers

If you Boomers really cared about stopping Jihadism you would fight them in Western Europe, where the American Empire has had complete control since WW2. You would have protested the Clinton administration bombing the Serbs in the 90ties or you'd be protesting the Trump admin today for not sending guns and ammo to the rioters in Belfast so they can overthrow the government there and violently evict the Islamic foreigners...

Instead you seem to only care about whoever Israel tells you to care about... if Iran is defeated and Israel completes their genocide and annexs Lebanon, Gaza, and the West Bank it'll be Egypt, Syria, and Turkey next and you Boomers (if you are still alive) will be whining about what a threat those countries are and how Turkey cant be allowed to have nuclear weapons

North Korea doesn't yet have a reliable, proven capability to strike the U.S. mainland at scale. The fact that "nothing has happened" so far doesn't prove it won't.

North Korea only became a nuclear-armed state relatively recently, with lots of help from us, and the long-term stability of that situation is still an open question. In short, your pointing to that one example and trying to extrapolate that Iran will behave in exactly the same manner is just stupid. Different regimes have different motivations and risk tolerances. You can't assume every government will behave identically under nuclear deterrence. Treating one case as a universal model is silly.

Thankfully, NK doesn't have the religious zealot motivations that Iran does. They know God will not protect them from a counterstrike. The Iranians on the other hand...?



Ok. Fair point... Israel has been taken over by the Orthodox Extremists whose ultimate objective is genetically engineering red hefers, rebuilding the 3rd Temple, and creating Greater Israel. Do you not consider them religious zealots?

Should we not require them to sign the NPT that we are a party to? If we reigned in Israel's nuclear program many other nations in the region would be less likely to pursue them (i.e. Iran, Saudi, Turkey)

Or did your Scofield bible tell you those who bless Israel are blessed and jews are demi-gods divinely chosen by God and the insolent goyim have no right to tell them anything!


Iran won't be less likely to pursue them, regardless of what Israel does. When Iran's Mullahs operate under the assumption that "God will prevent our destruction," as they so often spout (and appear to believe), Iran and nuclear weapons is a very dangerous combination.

As for Genesis, the exact quote to Abraham is: "I will bless those who bless you, and whoever curses you I will curse; and all peoples on earth will be blessed through you." God is referring to Abraham's descendants, not necessarily the modern day state of Israel.
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BigGameBaylorBear said:

The_barBEARian said:

Bruisers Burner Phone said:

The_barBEARian said:

historian said:

What a shock! Who could have seen that coming????


We are taking the Israel First Republican party behind the barn and putting it out of its misery.

I voted the last 8 or 9 elections down ticket Republican. I'm sitting it out in November. The Iran war was the last straw for me. You ******* Boomers are so damn obsessed with serving the jews you'll let this country go to hell and fall to pieces for your lunatic aspirations of Greater Israel

It isn't about serving the Jews; It's about furthering our national interest (i.e. dismantling and inhibiting a nuclear Iran who has vowed to destroy us). But when our interests align, and Isreal will actually do things that further our national interest (bombing Iran, destroying Hesbolah), we shouldn't decline because they are Jews.

Your test seems to be "Will this action help the Jews? If so, don't do it." I'm saying the test should be "Does this help the US? If so, do it."


Spending a trillion dollars on a pointless foreign war for the benefit of another country does NOT benefit the United States, with our historic debt-to-GDP ratio and $40 trillion deficit.

What would benefit the US tremendously would be Israel paying back some of the money they've taken... when do you estimate we will actually benefit from this "alliance"?

North Korea "vowed to destroy us". We didnt go to war with North Korea, they have nukes now, and the world is still spinning

Fox News, the defense contractors, the corrupt politicians all prey of the fear and stupidity of Boomers

If you Boomers really cared about stopping Jihadism you would fight them in Western Europe, where the American Empire has had complete control since WW2. You would have protested the Clinton administration bombing the Serbs in the 90ties or you'd be protesting the Trump admin today for not sending guns and ammo to the rioters in Belfast so they can overthrow the government there and violently evict the Islamic foreigners...

Instead you seem to only care about whoever Israel tells you to care about... if Iran is defeated and Israel completes their genocide and annexs Lebanon, Gaza, and the West Bank it'll be Egypt, Syria, and Turkey next and you Boomers (if you are still alive) will be whining about what a threat those countries are and how Turkey cant be allowed to have nuclear weapons




Unfortunately, our friends here have suffered through too many years of indoctrination. The Zionist media has won the propaganda war over their generation.


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Socialism is the ultimate loser proposition. It's completely evil and doomed to fail. One can only be a socialist if one is economically and historically ignorant. The scary part is how many people are willfully ignorant or ignoring reality because of evil ambition.
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The_barBEARian said:


The biggest threat to America's national security is the US and Western Europe losing their white majority populations and being ethnically replaced by immigrants from the 3rd world, yes or no?



Yes-ish. It is important to remember that this replacement, although a visible proximate cause was made possible by politicians who were overwhelmingly white. It is still being made possible by politicians who are overwhelmingly white. So you have to dig a little deeper. I would argue that the root cause here was the fall of American Christendom in the 1960s, particularly in the Episcopalian and Roman Catholic spheres with Lambeth and Vatican 2. This allowed American leadership to abandon faith in God and Country and become a generation of materialistic navel gazing vipers who sold out the nation for 30 pieces of silver.

Byzantium's strength was that it was a monocultural multiethnic state. It lasted a thousand years. The west's experiment in multiculturalism will fail and take the nations that embraced it down in the process.
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Realitybites said:

The_barBEARian said:


The biggest threat to America's national security is the US and Western Europe losing their white majority populations and being ethnically replaced by immigrants from the 3rd world, yes or no?



Yes-ish. It is important to remember that this replacement, although a visible proximate cause was made possible by politicians who were overwhelmingly white. It is still being made possible by politicians who are overwhelmingly white. So you have to dig a little deeper. I would argue that the root cause here was the fall of American Christendom in the 1960s, particularly in the Episcopalian and Roman Catholic spheres with Lambeth and Vatican 2. This allowed American leadership to abandon faith in God and Country and become a generation of materialistic navel gazing vipers who sold out the nation for 30 pieces of silver.

Humanae Vitae was the antidote to all of that. Not because the decline of the white majority was a threat per se, but because all of the attendant problems and paranoias could have been avoided.
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The_barBEARian said:

Robert Wilson said:

historian said:

The_barBEARian said:

historian said:

What a shock! Who could have seen that coming????


We are taking the Israel First Republican party behind the barn and putting it out of its misery.

I voted the last 8 or 9 elections down ticket Republican. I'm sitting it out in November. The Iran war was the last straw for me. You ******* Boomers are so damn obsessed with serving the jews you'll let this country go to hell and fall to pieces for your lunatic aspirations of Greater Israel

Once again you prove trout critics correct with more ignorant, straw man, foolish trash. Your latest errors:

-The GOP is "Israel first" only in your fevered imagination.
-I'm not a boomer. I have no idea why you would make such an assumption.
-You are so obsessed with blaming Jews for everything you cannot see how stupid that is.
-I have no particular aspirations for Israel beyond their survival and successful defense against those who attack them. I have the same goals for the people of every nation allied to the US. Again, don't make assumptions.
-Resorting to childish insults is a sure sign that you've lost the debate. I don't know why you keep posting so much trash so often.

You insist on proving daily how irrational and foolish bigotry is! By all means, keep posting this kind of garbage just in case there is anyone who has to doubts. Some people will enjoy laughing at your foolishness. I will hope you eventually come around to reality.

The guy is an imbecile. He's incapable of addressing any issue without running it through his Jewish filter. I can't believe y'all continue to interact with him.

That said, he is indicative of a chunk of people (mostly men, mostly but not all young, mostly not particularly successful) who are all in on their victimhood narrative such that not much separates them from liberal democrats at the end of the day. They just claim victimhood for different groups. They have some of the same "oppressors." They overlap on "Boomers" (as they tend to reflexively lump almost anyone with money into that category), Israel and thus also on Gaza. Strange bedfellows in a sense, but they also have a lot in common.

Will be interesting to see how many of the incel victim boys run all the way off the socialism cliff with the Gaza loving leftists. That's what perpetual victims eventually do, because it is the obvious ideology of the perpetual victim. I suspect many of them stop short of that or come to their senses at some point - at least the ones who start having some real life success and getting laid regularly. The real losers will inevitably fall into socialism.


Success is an arbitrary term.... apparently you define success by how much fake paper money you have or how many women you've slept with. Those are pretty low standards... but hey, you're a simple goy.



There are lots of ways to be a success. Why don't you just pick one?

I know, let's have a spelling contest. I'll let you use spellcheck.
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I hope Fishback plays this song when he wins the nomination

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Robert Wilson said:

The_barBEARian said:

Robert Wilson said:

historian said:

The_barBEARian said:

historian said:

What a shock! Who could have seen that coming????


We are taking the Israel First Republican party behind the barn and putting it out of its misery.

I voted the last 8 or 9 elections down ticket Republican. I'm sitting it out in November. The Iran war was the last straw for me. You ******* Boomers are so damn obsessed with serving the jews you'll let this country go to hell and fall to pieces for your lunatic aspirations of Greater Israel

Once again you prove trout critics correct with more ignorant, straw man, foolish trash. Your latest errors:

-The GOP is "Israel first" only in your fevered imagination.
-I'm not a boomer. I have no idea why you would make such an assumption.
-You are so obsessed with blaming Jews for everything you cannot see how stupid that is.
-I have no particular aspirations for Israel beyond their survival and successful defense against those who attack them. I have the same goals for the people of every nation allied to the US. Again, don't make assumptions.
-Resorting to childish insults is a sure sign that you've lost the debate. I don't know why you keep posting so much trash so often.

You insist on proving daily how irrational and foolish bigotry is! By all means, keep posting this kind of garbage just in case there is anyone who has to doubts. Some people will enjoy laughing at your foolishness. I will hope you eventually come around to reality.

The guy is an imbecile. He's incapable of addressing any issue without running it through his Jewish filter. I can't believe y'all continue to interact with him.

That said, he is indicative of a chunk of people (mostly men, mostly but not all young, mostly not particularly successful) who are all in on their victimhood narrative such that not much separates them from liberal democrats at the end of the day. They just claim victimhood for different groups. They have some of the same "oppressors." They overlap on "Boomers" (as they tend to reflexively lump almost anyone with money into that category), Israel and thus also on Gaza. Strange bedfellows in a sense, but they also have a lot in common.

Will be interesting to see how many of the incel victim boys run all the way off the socialism cliff with the Gaza loving leftists. That's what perpetual victims eventually do, because it is the obvious ideology of the perpetual victim. I suspect many of them stop short of that or come to their senses at some point - at least the ones who start having some real life success and getting laid regularly. The real losers will inevitably fall into socialism.


Success is an arbitrary term.... apparently you define success by how much fake paper money you have or how many women you've slept with. Those are pretty low standards... but hey, you're a simple goy.



There are lots of ways to be a success. Why don't you just pick one?

I know, let's have a spelling contest. I'll let you use spellcheck.

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Mothra said:



As for Genesis, the exact quote to Abraham is: "I will bless those who bless you, and whoever curses you I will curse; and all peoples on earth will be blessed through you." God is referring to Abraham's descendants, not necessarily the modern day state of Israel.

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The_barBEARian said:

I hope Fishback plays this song when he wins the nomination




Care for a friendly wager on this? Thousand dollars says the teen diddler isn't the nominee. I'm just curious whether you'll put your money where your mouth is. Let me know.
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The_barBEARian said:

Mothra said:



As for Genesis, the exact quote to Abraham is: "I will bless those who bless you, and whoever curses you I will curse; and all peoples on earth will be blessed through you." God is referring to Abraham's descendants, not necessarily the modern day state of Israel.




Yes.

And Romans 4:12-13 explicitly makes absolutely clear that this promise has transferred to the church.

"and the father of circumcision to them who are not of the circumcision only, but who also walk in the steps of that faith of our father Abraham, which he had being yet uncircumcised. For the promise, that he should be the heir of the world, was not to Abraham, or to his seed, through the law, but through the righteousness of faith."
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Mothra said:

The_barBEARian said:

I hope Fishback plays this song when he wins the nomination




Care for a friendly wager on this? Thousand dollars says the teen diddler isn't the nominee. I'm just curious whether you'll put your money where your mouth is. Let me know.

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Realitybites said:

The_barBEARian said:

Mothra said:



As for Genesis, the exact quote to Abraham is: "I will bless those who bless you, and whoever curses you I will curse; and all peoples on earth will be blessed through you." God is referring to Abraham's descendants, not necessarily the modern day state of Israel.




Yes.

And Romans 4:12-13 explicitly makes absolutely clear that this promise has transferred to the church.

"and the father of circumcision to them who are not of the circumcision only, but who also walk in the steps of that faith of our father Abraham, which he had being yet uncircumcised. For the promise, that he should be the heir of the world, was not to Abraham, or to his seed, through the law, but through the righteousness of faith."

I am surprised at how badly you misinterpret these verses, and just blatantly ignore others that don't fit your narrative.

Romans 4:12-13 does not teach that God's covenant with Abraham was transferred from Israel to the Church (and it certainly doesn't say that explicitly); rather, it teaches that the promise comes through faith and therefore includes both Jews and Gentiles. Paul's point is that Abraham is the father not only of the circumcised (Jews) who share his faith, but also of uncircumcised Gentiles who believe, showing that righteousness and inheritance are based on faith rather than the Law.

This expands the scope of the promise but does not revoke or transfer it. When read alongside Romans 9 and 11, Paul makes it explicit that God has not rejected Israel (Romans 11:1) and that His covenantal calling is "irrevocable" (Romans 11:29). The olive tree analogy in Romans 11 further clarifies this: Gentiles are grafted into the existing covenantal root, not replacing the natural branches. Therefore, the correct conclusion is that the Abrahamic promise is broadened to include Gentile believers by faith, not transferred away from the Jewish people.
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The_barBEARian said:

Mothra said:

The_barBEARian said:

I hope Fishback plays this song when he wins the nomination




Care for a friendly wager on this? Thousand dollars says the teen diddler isn't the nominee. I'm just curious whether you'll put your money where your mouth is. Let me know.



Well then, should be an easy wager for you. What say you?
 
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