Real race privilege is like air. Its something you don't notice because it's always been there.boxster said:
I'm native american, have brown skin, and am okay with it. Do I have native american privilege? If so, I apologize.
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Real race privilege is like air. Its something you don't notice because it's always been there.boxster said:
I'm native american, have brown skin, and am okay with it. Do I have native american privilege? If so, I apologize.
Silly straw man gets silly answer.Waco1947 said:You are ignoring the premise white skin is white privilege Not my wife is terrific to black girls. Try againJack Bauer said:We have a biracial girl on our soccer team. She is forced to carry all the white girls' soccer equipment while they all get to play and have fun.Waco1947 said:The premise is white skin is white privilege. The reasoning is to empathize and be black in your imagination In your imagination go to a restaurant with a white wife; go to the soccer field with your biracial children, walk a white neighborhood, drive a white neighbor. Black in a white culture is a different experience. Can you see that?90sBear said:Waco1947 said:"Troll" "pathetic yet no reasoning as to why the premise is wrong. White skin is white privilege. Can you deny that truth?Bona Fide Bear said:
Another troll post by 47 that has no intent other than to further divide. So sad that some people are this pathetic.
You started this thread with no reasoning as to why the premise is true. Support your own premise from the beginning before you criticize others for not providing an intelligent response.
I may not always agree with Tommie, but I respect his posting and ability to have a conversation.
No, of course that doesn't happen. Her mother is actually the team manager.
Okay, so I'm privileged, or not. What's the point? Do I need to write someone a check?cinque said:Real race privilege is like air. Its something you don't notice because it's always been there.boxster said:
I'm native american, have brown skin, and am okay with it. Do I have native american privilege? If so, I apologize.
Sure, go ahead.boxster said:Okay, so I'm privileged, or not. What's the point? Do I need to write someone a check?cinque said:Real race privilege is like air. Its something you don't notice because it's always been there.boxster said:
I'm native american, have brown skin, and am okay with it. Do I have native american privilege? If so, I apologize.
And posts like this do absolutely nothing to help. Matter of fact, it's completely antithetical to the message Dr King an other Civil Rights Activists fought and ultimately died for. This post is beyond vile.Waco1947 said:
White privilege is simply to be born white and walk in this world as a white. Being white in and of itself is all white privilege is about. Blacks walk around in black skin.
If you are white then imagine what it would be like to black all day and the next and then the next.
cinque said:They shouldn't since they're not likely to be get shot multiple times while unarmed and running from the police.bobo said:
Poor white trash here in the ozarks laugh at your white privilege.
This is a form of privilege. Donald Trump is the most obvious and egregious example of white privilege.
. Can you not simply acknowledge that black people have a significantly different cultural experience than you. Think of 10 situations in which you might be black in a white setting. Can you do that please?trey3216 said:And posts like this do absolutely nothing to help. Matter of fact, it's completely antithetical to the message Dr King an other Civil Rights Activists fought and ultimately died for. This post is beyond vile.Waco1947 said:
White privilege is simply to be born white and walk in this world as a white. Being white in and of itself is all white privilege is about. Blacks walk around in black skin.
If you are white then imagine what it would be like to black all day and the next and then the next.
No checks needed just empathy.boxster said:Okay, so I'm privileged, or not. What's the point? Do I need to write someone a check?cinque said:Real race privilege is like air. Its something you don't notice because it's always been there.boxster said:
I'm native american, have brown skin, and am okay with it. Do I have native american privilege? If so, I apologize.
He disliked bend over and take it whites, like you, equally or more.Waco1947 said:. Can you not simply acknowledge that black people have a significantly different cultural experience than you. Think of 10 situations in which you might be black in a white setting. Can you do that please?trey3216 said:And posts like this do absolutely nothing to help. Matter of fact, it's completely antithetical to the message Dr King an other Civil Rights Activists fought and ultimately died for. This post is beyond vile.Waco1947 said:
White privilege is simply to be born white and walk in this world as a white. Being white in and of itself is all white privilege is about. Blacks walk around in black skin.
If you are white then imagine what it would be like to black all day and the next and then the next.
MLK did not like lukewarm whites who thought they were non racists and failed to see their inherent racism in the south.
MLK found racism in the North to be even more stubborn than in the South, and every bit as vicious.Waco1947 said:
MLK did not like lukewarm whites who thought they were non racists and failed to see their inherent racism in the south.
True. See Trumpbubbadog said:MLK found racism in the North to be even more stubborn than in the South, and every bit as vicious.Waco1947 said:
MLK did not like lukewarm whites who thought they were non racists and failed to see their inherent racism in the south.
FIFYcinque said:True. See Chicagobubbadog said:MLK found racism in the North to be even more stubborn than in the South, and every bit as vicious.Waco1947 said:
MLK did not like lukewarm whites who thought they were non racists and failed to see their inherent racism in the south.
I'm not even sure what you mean by "bend over and take it whites."trey3216 said:
He disliked bend over and take it whites, like you, equally or more.
Chicago was one of the places where MLK found racism so entrenched, his effort there failed.trey3216 said:FIFYcinque said:True. See Chicagobubbadog said:MLK found racism in the North to be even more stubborn than in the South, and every bit as vicious.Waco1947 said:
MLK did not like lukewarm whites who thought they were non racists and failed to see their inherent racism in the south.
Empathy? Absolutely.Waco1947 said:No checks needed just empathy.boxster said:Okay, so I'm privileged, or not. What's the point? Do I need to write someone a check?cinque said:Real race privilege is like air. Its something you don't notice because it's always been there.boxster said:
I'm native american, have brown skin, and am okay with it. Do I have native american privilege? If so, I apologize.
Consider the circumstantial differences in the way the Tech student was treated while fleeing from the police and what happened to the murdered cyclist in Salt Lake:Forest Bueller said:This is actually falsehood. Twice as many whites are shot dead by police as blacks each year in the United States, I have seen multiple youtubes of a young white guy getting shot in the back while taking off.cinque said:They shouldn't since they're not likely to be get shot multiple times while unarmed and running from the police.bobo said:
Poor white trash here in the ozarks laugh at your white privilege.
This is a form of privilege. Donald Trump is the most obvious and egregious example of white privilege.
Who do you think the white folk getting killed by police come from University and Highland Park?
No they come from impoverished white areas that no SJW gives a **** about, so you never hear about it.
True. No argument there. Like with Trump, there's a record there.trey3216 said:FIFYcinque said:True. See Chicagobubbadog said:MLK found racism in the North to be even more stubborn than in the South, and every bit as vicious.Waco1947 said:
MLK did not like lukewarm whites who thought they were non racists and failed to see their inherent racism in the south.
Bona Fide Bear said:tommie said:midgett said:
There are lots of white people living in the Appalachia who want to know more about this privilege of which you speak.
Appalachia has some of the most depressing poverty I've ever seen. I feel for kids born and reared in that environment.
There is a public policy difference between how we handled drug addiction in urban and rural communities. Crack addiction was handled with tearing up the constitution and harsh prison sentences. "Opioid" addiction is handled with treatment.
Specifically, how was the constitution torn up?
All addictions are handled with treatment. Possession, manufacturing, selling and drug related violence are what get you harsh prison sentences, opiods included.
bobo said:Dear tommie,tommie said:midgett said:
There are lots of white people living in the Appalachia who want to know more about this privilege of which you speak.
Appalachia has some of the most depressing poverty I've ever seen. I feel for kids born and reared in that environment.
There is a public policy difference between how we handled drug addiction in urban and rural communities. Crack addiction was handled with tearing up the constitution and harsh prison sentences. "Opioid" addiction is handled with treatment.
Please tell me in personal how drug addiction was handled differently in urban and rural terms.
cinque said:Consider the circumstantial differences in the way the Tech student was treated while fleeing from the police and what happened to the murdered cyclist in Salt Lake:Forest Bueller said:This is actually falsehood. Twice as many whites are shot dead by police as blacks each year in the United States, I have seen multiple youtubes of a young white guy getting shot in the back while taking off.cinque said:They shouldn't since they're not likely to be get shot multiple times while unarmed and running from the police.bobo said:
Poor white trash here in the ozarks laugh at your white privilege.
This is a form of privilege. Donald Trump is the most obvious and egregious example of white privilege.
Who do you think the white folk getting killed by police come from University and Highland Park?
No they come from impoverished white areas that no SJW gives a **** about, so you never hear about it.
Consider that you don't see or hear about every situation out there. Ancedotal evidence can be used to prove any point, I see the stats, and twice as many whites are gunned down by police. Some of them are bad shots you never hear of, all of the black men that aren't shot in the back like the Tech student wasn't, you don't hear about them either.
Fact is they aren't getting gunned down in Highland Park or University Park, it's the po folk that are more easily disgarded.
My assertion is about the circumstantial differences in the police shootings of unarmed black and [un]armed whites. Consider how Lubbock Police handled the apprehension of an armed murder suspect and what happened in Salt Lake City:Forest Bueller said:This is actually falsehood. Twice as many whites are shot dead by police as blacks each year in the United States, I have seen multiple youtubes of a young white guy getting shot in the back while taking off.cinque said:They shouldn't since they're not likely to be get shot multiple times while unarmed and running from the police.bobo said:
Poor white trash here in the ozarks laugh at your white privilege.
This is a form of privilege. Donald Trump is the most obvious and egregious example of white privilege.
Who do you think the white folk getting killed by police come from University and Highland Park?
No they come from impoverished white areas that no SJW gives a **** about, so you never hear about it.
Again that's not white privilege. See the OPboxster said:Empathy? Absolutely.Waco1947 said:No checks needed just empathy.boxster said:Okay, so I'm privileged, or not. What's the point? Do I need to write someone a check?cinque said:Real race privilege is like air. Its something you don't notice because it's always been there.boxster said:
I'm native american, have brown skin, and am okay with it. Do I have native american privilege? If so, I apologize.
I have the most empathy for people, white, black, brown, who come from single parent households...they're the ones on the short end of the whole privilege thing.
So here is the OP. Too many of you are responding to your preconceived notion of white privilege.Waco1947 said:
White privilege is simply to be born white and walk in this world as a white. Being white in and of itself is all white privilege is about. Blacks walk around in black skin.
If you are white then imagine what it would be like to black all day and the next and then the next.
bubbadog said:Chicago was one of the places where MLK found racism so entrenched, his effort there failed.trey3216 said:FIFYcinque said:True. See Chicagobubbadog said:MLK found racism in the North to be even more stubborn than in the South, and every bit as vicious.Waco1947 said:
MLK did not like lukewarm whites who thought they were non racists and failed to see their inherent racism in the south.
But somehow I don't think that's what you meant when you cited Chicago.
I'm describing the "it's all my fault because I'm white" whites like '47.bubbadog said:I'm not even sure what you mean by "bend over and take it whites."trey3216 said:
He disliked bend over and take it whites, like you, equally or more.
What do you think MLK would be talking about today, were he still alive and active?
His dream about an America where everyone is judged by the content of their character? Sure. But the famous speech in which he used those lines established from the beginning the theme that America had NOT lived up those ideals. He was complaining that America, despite its lofty promises, had issued a bad check to black Americans -- and now they were demanding payment of the promissory note.
Part of his opposition to the Vietnam War was about the way young black men were more likely to be sent to fight than young middle- and upper-class white boys. He didn't use the term "white privilege," but that's part of what he was talking about (or at least the way that black kids didn't enjoy the privilege that many white boys did).
Based on his writings, speeches and sermons, I find it hard to imagine that today he wouldn't be talking about issues where he saw racial disparity involved. And that would naturally include disparate treatment of black people by police and the justice system.
King said, "Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere." That's not far off from the thought behind the statement that "black lives matter," which was never meant to mean that ONLY black lives matter. Of course all lives matter. Another way of expressing that idea is: If black lives don't matter equally, then our society can't say that all lives matter. An injustice anywhere...
cinque said:My assertion is about the circumstantial differences in the police shootings of unarmed black and [un]armed whites. Consider how Lubbock Police handled the apprehension of an armed murder suspect and what happened in Salt Lake City:Forest Bueller said:This is actually falsehood. Twice as many whites are shot dead by police as blacks each year in the United States, I have seen multiple youtubes of a young white guy getting shot in the back while taking off.cinque said:They shouldn't since they're not likely to be get shot multiple times while unarmed and running from the police.bobo said:
Poor white trash here in the ozarks laugh at your white privilege.
This is a form of privilege. Donald Trump is the most obvious and egregious example of white privilege.
Who do you think the white folk getting killed by police come from University and Highland Park?
No they come from impoverished white areas that no SJW gives a **** about, so you never hear about it.
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OK, gotcha. But I think what you're describing represents a set of false absolutes. What has happened in our history -- both distant and recent -- isn't my fault. As a white male, I don't have to apologize for systems I didn't create.trey3216 said:
I'm describing the "it's all my fault because I'm white" whites like '47.
The kind that say we need to have conversations and work on things, have you over for dinner and invite your kids to sleep over, tell each other we love you like my own brother types, like myself, don't feel guilty about being white. I can't change the way I was born just like no one else can.
All I can do is know how I was raised and know how I'll raise my children
bubbadog said:OK, gotcha. But I think what you're describing represents a set of false absolutes. What has happened in our history -- both distant and recent -- isn't my fault. As a white male, I don't have to apologize for systems I didn't create.trey3216 said:
I'm describing the "it's all my fault because I'm white" whites like '47.
The kind that say we need to have conversations and work on things, have you over for dinner and invite your kids to sleep over, tell each other we love you like my own brother types, like myself, don't feel guilty about being white. I can't change the way I was born just like no one else can.
All I can do is know how I was raised and know how I'll raise my children
But that doesn't mean I didn't benefit in some ways from those systems, and I think that's an important point to make.
Just to cite a few among many possible examples:
Because of the color of my skin, I don't get followed around when I'm shopping in department stores.
Because of the color of my skin, the police won't follow me if I'm driving through an upper-income neighborhood.
People in my neighborhood won't call the police on someone going door-to-door if his skin looks like mine. Solicitors with dark skin haven't been so lucky. Their color makes them "suspicious" in ways that mine doesn't.
I didn't realize it at the time, but I benefited from white privilege when I graduated from BU and looked for my first job. Journalism had been one of my two majors, but I didn't care much for the Journalism Dept. at the time and didn't want to work on the Lariat any more than I absolutely had to when Sharon Grigsby was the editor. I couldn't afford to do an unpaid journalism internship in the summer because whatever I earned in my summer jobs had to be the spending money that got me through the school year. Net result was that I didn't have much in the way of writing samples or actual newspaper experience to show potential employers. I heard about an opening in sports at the Waco Tribune-Herald. I got an interview with Dave Campbell through my uncle. One of my uncle's college buddies had worked with Mr. Campbell. My uncle called the guy and asked him as a favor to call Dave Campbell and give me an interview. I got hired based on the interview, and my writing samples and the interview probably never would have happened without my uncle calling in a favor, and my writing samples never would have been noticed without the interview because one look at my thin journalistic resum probably would have sent my application into the wrong pile.
What does that have to do with white privilege? Just this. My uncle and father had a network of college buddies they could call on because they went to college. And the only reason they were the first in their family ever to attend college was because of the GI Bill. But the GI Bill didn't apply to black World War II veterans, because the program never would have been approved by southern white Democrats in the 1940s unless blacks were excluded. So most black guys graduating from college the same year as me, with the same qualifications, wouldn't have had an uncle who could call in favors from college buddies because he probably wouldn't have had a chance to go to college. No question I was "privileged" by that.
So, as someone asked earlier, what are we supposed to do? Give up opportunities that come our way? Write a reparations check?
No, I don't think so.
One helpful step would simply be to acknowledge where those opportunities gaps existed and still exist. Most white people -- myself included for the majority of my lifetime -- thought that black anger and resentment was a residue from slavery and segregation. We weren't taught about discrimination on housing loans, and the sham convict labor system that railroaded people back into virtual slavery as late as 1941. There was a whole lot of shlt they didn't teach us in school. So the first step is to know the actual history of discrimination.
Second step is to acknowledge some of the ways in which we as white people benefited from systems that in many ways were rigged well after segregation was supposed to formally end. Truth is the prerequisite for reconciliation.
I didn't say it was. I was highlighting the "privilege" that I think is more valuable than white privilege.Waco1947 said:Again that's not white privilege. See the OPboxster said:Empathy? Absolutely.Waco1947 said:No checks needed just empathy.boxster said:Okay, so I'm privileged, or not. What's the point? Do I need to write someone a check?cinque said:Real race privilege is like air. Its something you don't notice because it's always been there.boxster said:
I'm native american, have brown skin, and am okay with it. Do I have native american privilege? If so, I apologize.
I have the most empathy for people, white, black, brown, who come from single parent households...they're the ones on the short end of the whole privilege thing.
You have yet to define what you think the privileges are or if, in your opinion, people of other color in the world have privileges based upon their skin color.Waco1947 said:So here is the OP. Too many of you are responding to your preconceived notion of white privilege.Waco1947 said:
White privilege is simply to be born white and walk in this world as a white. Being white in and of itself is all white privilege is about. Blacks walk around in black skin.
If you are white then imagine what it would be like to black all day and the next and then the next.
Stop. Just stop. The reason you don't hear about whites who are similarly situated being killed the same way is because it rarely, if ever happens.Forest Bueller said:cinque said:My assertion is about the circumstantial differences in the police shootings of unarmed black and [un]armed whites. Consider how Lubbock Police handled the apprehension of an armed murder suspect and what happened in Salt Lake City:Forest Bueller said:This is actually falsehood. Twice as many whites are shot dead by police as blacks each year in the United States, I have seen multiple youtubes of a young white guy getting shot in the back while taking off.cinque said:They shouldn't since they're not likely to be get shot multiple times while unarmed and running from the police.bobo said:
Poor white trash here in the ozarks laugh at your white privilege.
This is a form of privilege. Donald Trump is the most obvious and egregious example of white privilege.
Who do you think the white folk getting killed by police come from University and Highland Park?
No they come from impoverished white areas that no SJW gives a **** about, so you never hear about it.
https://twitter.com/hashtag/PatrickHarmon?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.shaggytexas.com%2Fboard%2Fshowthread.php%2F182089-Shooter-at-Texas-Tech%2Fpage3
Cinque, I'm not saying there are no black men shot in the back by police for no good reason, there are, and it is a shameful happening. At least we hear about it, and there are folks who care and are enraged about it. Which is a good thing.
There are also white folks shot in the back as they run from police for no good reason, it is a shameful happening. But, we don't hear about it because there is no organized movement that cares, just their family.
They are usually very poor young men, who nobody gives a crap about.