Saw the thread about Trump but he is out in 3 years and whether people support him or not is besides the point. The real question to consider looks to be should people support Vance in 3 years or go with Newsom? Why pick Newsom over Vance?

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Saw the thread about Trump but he is out in 3 years and whether people support him or not is besides the point. The real question to consider looks to be should people support Vance in 3 years or go with Newsom? Why pick Newsom over Vance?

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Vance's support of Cryptocurrency is a deal breaker for me. Eliminates him as a serious candidate.

I sent DeSantis $500 in 2024. Perhaps in 2028 I will send him $5,000. He and Marco Rubio are my current top picks for 2028.

I'm not sold on Vance but if its between Vance, Desantis, Rubio, and Ted Cruz... I would choose the lesser evil - Vance.

DeSantis, Rubio, and Cruz are all Israel-Firsters and I am done compromising my country for the sake of Israel.

Not a fan of crypto either... but as long as it remains unregulated and government isnt bailing out the fools who lose their money... I can overlook it.

I did appreciate this moment from Vance, his highlight as VP thus far, smacking around that entitled crackhead Zelensky:

🚨Just in: Vance calls out to Zelenskyy his face:

“I think it's disrespectful for you to come into the Oval Office and try to litigate this in front of the American media. You went to Pennsylvania and campaigned for the opposition in October. Offer some words of appreciation… pic.twitter.com/0TLSgmBPCc

— The Calvin Coolidge Project (@TheCalvinCooli1) February 28, 2025

Not me. He has Trump slime all over him. To to eradicate everything trump

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Mothra said:

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I hope it's the choice of Newsom or Rubio, who is a MUCH stronger candidate than Vance.

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Agree

Rubio would have the broader voter appeal.

2nd choice would be DeSantis. However his inept campaign in the Republican presidential primaries is very concerning.

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unfortunately, Rubio is covered in trump slim too. He is a hell of a lot better than the bearded wonder.

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Saw the thread about Trump but he is out in 3 years and whether people support him or not is besides the point. The real question to consider looks to be should people support Vance in 3 years or go with Newsom? Why pick Newsom over Vance?

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This really isn't a choice.

Vance every day of the week, and twice on Sunday.

Rubio cooperated with McCain and the Gang of Eight to try and enact amnesty. This disqualifies him for elected office because he does not understand the fundamental fact that a nation must have borders.

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BaylorFTW said:

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Saw the thread about Trump but he is out in 3 years and whether people support him or not is besides the point. The real question to consider looks to be should people support Vance in 3 years or go with Newsom? Why pick Newsom over Vance?

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This really isn't a choice.

Vance every day of the week, and twice on Sunday.

Rubio cooperated with McCain and the Gang of Eight to try and enact amnesty. This disqualifies him for elected office because he does not understand the fundamental fact that a nation must have borders.

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Vance only appeals to hardcore MAGA types.

Very unlikely to win the general election.

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Yup. Seems like a political chameleon, and isn't very likable.

I think AOC or Newsom would beat Vance handily. Rubio, IMO, is the best chance we have. DeSantis a close second.

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BaylorFTW said:

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Saw the thread about Trump but he is out in 3 years and whether people support him or not is besides the point. The real question to consider looks to be should people support Vance in 3 years or go with Newsom? Why pick Newsom over Vance?

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Vance's support of Cryptocurrency is a deal breaker for me. Eliminates him as a serious candidate.

I sent DeSantis $500 in 2024. Perhaps in 2028 I will send him $5,000. He and Marco Rubio are my current top picks for 2028.

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I would definitely like an all Florida ticket. DeSantis/Rubio. Though Vance/DeSantis would be ok too.

I like DeSantis as he is America first without the Trump baggage.

I wouldn't mind to see Rubio stay as SoS, he seems born to do that job.

Vance is going to be painted with the Trump brush, for better or worse.

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Mothra said:

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I hope it's the choice of Newsom or Rubio, who is a MUCH stronger candidate than Vance.

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Agree

Rubio would have the broader voter appeal.

2nd choice would be DeSantis. However his inept campaign in the Republican presidential primaries is very concerning.

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unfortunately, Rubio is covered in trump slim too. He is a hell of a lot better than the bearded wonder.

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What politician isn't covered in slime? There's Biden slime, Obama slime, Harris slime, California slime, etc.

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I'm not sold on Vance but if its between Vance, Desantis, Rubio, and Ted Cruz... I would choose the lesser evil - Vance.

DeSantis, Rubio, and Cruz are all Israel-Firsters and I am done compromising my country for the sake of Israel.

Not a fan of crypto either... but as long as it remains unregulated and government isnt bailing out the fools who lose their money... I can overlook it.

I did appreciate this moment from Vance, his highlight as VP thus far, smacking around that entitled crackhead Zelensky:

🚨Just in: Vance calls out to Zelenskyy his face:

“I think it's disrespectful for you to come into the Oval Office and try to litigate this in front of the American media. You went to Pennsylvania and campaigned for the opposition in October. Offer some words of appreciation… pic.twitter.com/0TLSgmBPCc

— The Calvin Coolidge Project (@TheCalvinCooli1) February 28, 2025

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Not sure how this works for you guys. Fuentes and what you guys tell us is his formidable and growing legion isn't going to vote for Vance because of his "jeet" wife. Hell, Fuentes agreed that it's better to vote Newsom than Vance.

So I am not sure how this works when Vance doesn't have the support of the Groypers.

Mothra said:

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Realitybites said:

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BaylorFTW said:

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Saw the thread about Trump but he is out in 3 years and whether people support him or not is besides the point. The real question to consider looks to be should people support Vance in 3 years or go with Newsom? Why pick Newsom over Vance?

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This really isn't a choice.

Vance every day of the week, and twice on Sunday.

Rubio cooperated with McCain and the Gang of Eight to try and enact amnesty. This disqualifies him for elected office because he does not understand the fundamental fact that a nation must have borders.

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And Vance once labeled himself a "Never Trumper," and said he was "America's Hitler." I suspect both Vance and Rubio's positions have changed quite a bit from a decade ago.

If we are going to start disqualifying candidates for positions they held more than a decade ago, I guess we would also have to disqualify Trump - once a Democrat who was to the left on many of his policy positions.

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Could we then support Obama's border policies, maybe Klobuchar's?

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The_barBEARian said:

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I'm not sold on Vance but if its between Vance, Desantis, Rubio, and Ted Cruz... I would choose the lesser evil - Vance.

DeSantis, Rubio, and Cruz are all Israel-Firsters and I am done compromising my country for the sake of Israel.

Not a fan of crypto either... but as long as it remains unregulated and government isnt bailing out the fools who lose their money... I can overlook it.

I did appreciate this moment from Vance, his highlight as VP thus far, smacking around that entitled crackhead Zelensky:

🚨Just in: Vance calls out to Zelenskyy his face:

“I think it's disrespectful for you to come into the Oval Office and try to litigate this in front of the American media. You went to Pennsylvania and campaigned for the opposition in October. Offer some words of appreciation… pic.twitter.com/0TLSgmBPCc

— The Calvin Coolidge Project (@TheCalvinCooli1) February 28, 2025

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Not sure how this works for you guys. Fuentes and what you guys tell us is his formidable and growing legion isn't going to vote for Vance because of his "jeet" wife. Hell, Fuentes agreed that it's better to vote Newsom than Vance.

So I am not sure how this works when Vance doesn't have the support of the Groypers.

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Vance would probably need to make someone like James Fishbeck his VP. Fishbeck has been absolutely killing it lately and will destroy Byrone and that no name LT of Florida with the youth vote and independents.

The_barBEARian said:

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Mothra said:

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The_barBEARian said:

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I'm not sold on Vance but if its between Vance, Desantis, Rubio, and Ted Cruz... I would choose the lesser evil - Vance.

DeSantis, Rubio, and Cruz are all Israel-Firsters and I am done compromising my country for the sake of Israel.

Not a fan of crypto either... but as long as it remains unregulated and government isnt bailing out the fools who lose their money... I can overlook it.

I did appreciate this moment from Vance, his highlight as VP thus far, smacking around that entitled crackhead Zelensky:

🚨Just in: Vance calls out to Zelenskyy his face:

“I think it's disrespectful for you to come into the Oval Office and try to litigate this in front of the American media. You went to Pennsylvania and campaigned for the opposition in October. Offer some words of appreciation… pic.twitter.com/0TLSgmBPCc

— The Calvin Coolidge Project (@TheCalvinCooli1) February 28, 2025

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Not sure how this works for you guys. Fuentes and what you guys tell us is his formidable and growing legion isn't going to vote for Vance because of his "jeet" wife. Hell, Fuentes agreed that it's better to vote Newsom than Vance.

So I am not sure how this works when Vance doesn't have the support of the Groypers.

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Vance would probably need to make someone like James Fishbeck his VP. Fishbeck has been absolutely killing it lately and will destroy Byrone and that no name LT of Florida with the youth vote and independents.

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Won't be Fishback. You have to be 35 to run for VP.

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Mothra said:

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I hope it's the choice of Newsom or Rubio, who is a MUCH stronger candidate than Vance.

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Agree

Rubio would have the broader voter appeal.

2nd choice would be DeSantis. However his inept campaign in the Republican presidential primaries is very concerning.

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all are fine relative to the slop the Dems will trot out.....

- UF

... and eventually nominate.

D!

Go Bears!!

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The_barBEARian said:

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Mothra said:

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The_barBEARian said:

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I'm not sold on Vance but if its between Vance, Desantis, Rubio, and Ted Cruz... I would choose the lesser evil - Vance.

DeSantis, Rubio, and Cruz are all Israel-Firsters and I am done compromising my country for the sake of Israel.

Not a fan of crypto either... but as long as it remains unregulated and government isnt bailing out the fools who lose their money... I can overlook it.

I did appreciate this moment from Vance, his highlight as VP thus far, smacking around that entitled crackhead Zelensky:

🚨Just in: Vance calls out to Zelenskyy his face:

“I think it's disrespectful for you to come into the Oval Office and try to litigate this in front of the American media. You went to Pennsylvania and campaigned for the opposition in October. Offer some words of appreciation… pic.twitter.com/0TLSgmBPCc

— The Calvin Coolidge Project (@TheCalvinCooli1) February 28, 2025

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Not sure how this works for you guys. Fuentes and what you guys tell us is his formidable and growing legion isn't going to vote for Vance because of his "jeet" wife. Hell, Fuentes agreed that it's better to vote Newsom than Vance.

So I am not sure how this works when Vance doesn't have the support of the Groypers.

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Vance would probably need to make someone like James Fishbeck his VP. Fishbeck has been absolutely killing it lately and will destroy Byrone and that no name LT of Florida with the youth vote and independents.

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Won't be Fishback. You have to be 35 to run for VP.

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Thats a shame I thought he was older.

But it's a testament to how impressive he's been. Extremely articulate, polished, and confident.

The_barBEARian said:

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Mothra said:

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The_barBEARian said:

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Mothra said:

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The_barBEARian said:

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I'm not sold on Vance but if its between Vance, Desantis, Rubio, and Ted Cruz... I would choose the lesser evil - Vance.

DeSantis, Rubio, and Cruz are all Israel-Firsters and I am done compromising my country for the sake of Israel.

Not a fan of crypto either... but as long as it remains unregulated and government isnt bailing out the fools who lose their money... I can overlook it.

I did appreciate this moment from Vance, his highlight as VP thus far, smacking around that entitled crackhead Zelensky:

🚨Just in: Vance calls out to Zelenskyy his face:

“I think it's disrespectful for you to come into the Oval Office and try to litigate this in front of the American media. You went to Pennsylvania and campaigned for the opposition in October. Offer some words of appreciation… pic.twitter.com/0TLSgmBPCc

— The Calvin Coolidge Project (@TheCalvinCooli1) February 28, 2025

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Not sure how this works for you guys. Fuentes and what you guys tell us is his formidable and growing legion isn't going to vote for Vance because of his "jeet" wife. Hell, Fuentes agreed that it's better to vote Newsom than Vance.

So I am not sure how this works when Vance doesn't have the support of the Groypers.

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Vance would probably need to make someone like James Fishbeck his VP. Fishbeck has been absolutely killing it lately and will destroy Byrone and that no name LT of Florida with the youth vote and independents.

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Won't be Fishback. You have to be 35 to run for VP.

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Thats a shame I thought he was older.

But it's a testament to how impressive he's been. Extremely articulate, polished, and confident.

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A scumbag in his personal life, however.

Mothra said:

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The_barBEARian said:

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Mothra said:

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The_barBEARian said:

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Mothra said:

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The_barBEARian said:

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I'm not sold on Vance but if its between Vance, Desantis, Rubio, and Ted Cruz... I would choose the lesser evil - Vance.

DeSantis, Rubio, and Cruz are all Israel-Firsters and I am done compromising my country for the sake of Israel.

Not a fan of crypto either... but as long as it remains unregulated and government isnt bailing out the fools who lose their money... I can overlook it.

I did appreciate this moment from Vance, his highlight as VP thus far, smacking around that entitled crackhead Zelensky:

🚨Just in: Vance calls out to Zelenskyy his face:

“I think it's disrespectful for you to come into the Oval Office and try to litigate this in front of the American media. You went to Pennsylvania and campaigned for the opposition in October. Offer some words of appreciation… pic.twitter.com/0TLSgmBPCc

— The Calvin Coolidge Project (@TheCalvinCooli1) February 28, 2025

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Not sure how this works for you guys. Fuentes and what you guys tell us is his formidable and growing legion isn't going to vote for Vance because of his "jeet" wife. Hell, Fuentes agreed that it's better to vote Newsom than Vance.

So I am not sure how this works when Vance doesn't have the support of the Groypers.

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Vance would probably need to make someone like James Fishbeck his VP. Fishbeck has been absolutely killing it lately and will destroy Byrone and that no name LT of Florida with the youth vote and independents.

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Won't be Fishback. You have to be 35 to run for VP.

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Thats a shame I thought he was older.

But it's a testament to how impressive he's been. Extremely articulate, polished, and confident.

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A scumbag in his personal life, however.

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Why?

Average Marco Rubio meme: "He can do jobs, wouldn't it be funny if he had more jobs?"

Average JD Vance meme: "He's fat and weird."

— Cranky Federalist (@CrankyFed) January 13, 2026

The_barBEARian said:

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Mothra said:

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The_barBEARian said:

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Mothra said:

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The_barBEARian said:

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Mothra said:

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The_barBEARian said:

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I'm not sold on Vance but if its between Vance, Desantis, Rubio, and Ted Cruz... I would choose the lesser evil - Vance.

DeSantis, Rubio, and Cruz are all Israel-Firsters and I am done compromising my country for the sake of Israel.

Not a fan of crypto either... but as long as it remains unregulated and government isnt bailing out the fools who lose their money... I can overlook it.

I did appreciate this moment from Vance, his highlight as VP thus far, smacking around that entitled crackhead Zelensky:

🚨Just in: Vance calls out to Zelenskyy his face:

“I think it's disrespectful for you to come into the Oval Office and try to litigate this in front of the American media. You went to Pennsylvania and campaigned for the opposition in October. Offer some words of appreciation… pic.twitter.com/0TLSgmBPCc

— The Calvin Coolidge Project (@TheCalvinCooli1) February 28, 2025

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Not sure how this works for you guys. Fuentes and what you guys tell us is his formidable and growing legion isn't going to vote for Vance because of his "jeet" wife. Hell, Fuentes agreed that it's better to vote Newsom than Vance.

So I am not sure how this works when Vance doesn't have the support of the Groypers.

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Vance would probably need to make someone like James Fishbeck his VP. Fishbeck has been absolutely killing it lately and will destroy Byrone and that no name LT of Florida with the youth vote and independents.

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Won't be Fishback. You have to be 35 to run for VP.

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Thats a shame I thought he was older.

But it's a testament to how impressive he's been. Extremely articulate, polished, and confident.

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A scumbag in his personal life, however.

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Why?

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https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2026-election/florida-school-gop-james-fishback-sexual-misconduct-allegations-rcna249963

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The_barBEARian said:

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Mothra said:

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The_barBEARian said:

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Mothra said:

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The_barBEARian said:

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Mothra said:

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The_barBEARian said:

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I'm not sold on Vance but if its between Vance, Desantis, Rubio, and Ted Cruz... I would choose the lesser evil - Vance.

DeSantis, Rubio, and Cruz are all Israel-Firsters and I am done compromising my country for the sake of Israel.

Not a fan of crypto either... but as long as it remains unregulated and government isnt bailing out the fools who lose their money... I can overlook it.

I did appreciate this moment from Vance, his highlight as VP thus far, smacking around that entitled crackhead Zelensky:

🚨Just in: Vance calls out to Zelenskyy his face:

“I think it's disrespectful for you to come into the Oval Office and try to litigate this in front of the American media. You went to Pennsylvania and campaigned for the opposition in October. Offer some words of appreciation… pic.twitter.com/0TLSgmBPCc

— The Calvin Coolidge Project (@TheCalvinCooli1) February 28, 2025

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Not sure how this works for you guys. Fuentes and what you guys tell us is his formidable and growing legion isn't going to vote for Vance because of his "jeet" wife. Hell, Fuentes agreed that it's better to vote Newsom than Vance.

So I am not sure how this works when Vance doesn't have the support of the Groypers.

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Vance would probably need to make someone like James Fishbeck his VP. Fishbeck has been absolutely killing it lately and will destroy Byrone and that no name LT of Florida with the youth vote and independents.

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Won't be Fishback. You have to be 35 to run for VP.

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Thats a shame I thought he was older.

But it's a testament to how impressive he's been. Extremely articulate, polished, and confident.

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A scumbag in his personal life, however.

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Why?

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https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2026-election/florida-school-gop-james-fishback-sexual-misconduct-allegations-rcna249963

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The article says they went to court and he won.

What were your thoughts on the old hag who accused Trump of raping her? Does that make Trump a scumbag?