President Trump announces military strikes on Iran: Operation Epic Fury
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D. C. Bear said:Mitch Blood Green said:KaiBear said:Mitch Blood Green said:boognish_bear said:Hegseth: "The only ones who need to be worried right now are Iranians who think they're going to live"
— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) March 7, 2026
pic.twitter.com/gZIl7sdcGl
Talking Loud and saying nothing.
Meanwhile the walking corpse who could barely walk or mumble ….earned your vote.
Amusing double standard.
You support an imbecile who can't hold his bowels. We are at war with Iran because your buffoon not only killed a deal that would have prevented Iran from getting nukes but also allowed Israel to force his hand.
Please give me back Biden.
There's no evidence that the deal you are talking about, or any deal with Iran, would have prevented them from getting nukes. That is the same wishful thinking that was used with North Korea.
Not wishful thinking.
Why are we trying to do a deal with them now? The evidence we have is since 1996, Netanyahu has been trying to get us to do this war for him. This attack on Iran has caused regional chaos (didn't have this when we had inspectors). It's shut down shipping lanes and, as you stated, has no proof that it will stop them from getting nukes.
Where's the off ramp? We've lost credibility in negotiations, we've gutted our diplomatic core and we don't have a plan that we know of the contain this chaos.
I'll take the diplomatic deal we had.
The_barBEARian said:whiterock said:The_barBEARian said:boognish_bear said:Rep. Josh Gottheimer (D-NJ) reacts to Newsom calling Israel an 'apartheid' state:
— NewsWire (@NewsWire_US) March 7, 2026
"These comments are not only wrong, but they are dangerous and will feed more antisemitism in our country. Is it really worth throwing Jews under the bus to advance your political ambitions?" pic.twitter.com/to6kvIWr5U
Very clear this guy, like many posters in this thread, is more loyal to Israel than he is to America.
as usual, you have it exactly backwards. You are more loyal to Iran than to America. You defend them at every turn. You defend Hamas at every opportunity. You ignore Hizballah's butchers' bill.
It's unerring. You're America Last.
You wont find one post where I have shown support to Iran, Hamas, or Hezbollah...
Unless not celebrating death of innocent children is considered support in your demented mind...
What a lie. It's always attacking Israel. Every single time. No matter what Iran, Hamas, Hizballah, or Houthis do, it's always always always Israel's fault. You ignore a four-digit long death toll Iran has inflicted on the USA, and say "bbbbut, the Liberty incident!!" You completely ignore the dire threat we would face from a stridently jihadist regime having nuclear weapons. and on and on and on.
Remove Israel from the map and all other factors remain the same. Israel did not cause the rise of the Mullahs. Israel did not force Iran to do all the terrorism Iran has done. Iran still tallies up a long and bloody butchers bill in American blood. Iran still chases the nukes. Iran is still a bitter, ancient rival of a Nato ally Iran still has the ability to strike the eastern half of Nato with MIRV munitions. Iran is still a Chinese vassal. Iran still supplies oil at a discount to help China build its armies and navies. Iran is still a bad actor putting IRGC troops and Shaheed drone factories in Venezuela, fer chrissakes. When we bombed their nuclear program, they worked steadily to rebuild it and would have done so if we let them. They actually bragged in negotiations that they A) had no intention of surrendering diplomatically what we could not take militarily, and B) they had enough 60% uranium to make 11 bombs in a matter of weeks.
Now, negotiating bluster is negotiating bluster. Our bombing of their nuke facilities last summer set them back a year or two. But the threat remains - they are committed to having nuclear weapons. They will NEVER stop. And if they get them, they WILL make direct threats to use them on us, and their regional neighbors if we oppose their foreign policy agenda. Do you seriously mean to suggest that Iran was building Shaheed drones in Venezuela just to threaten its neighbors. Do you believe there's no chance Iranian long-range ballistic missiles would ever be deployed to Venezuela?
How much longer do we have to put up with all of that?
How close does Iran have to get to nuclear weapons capability before we are justified in taking them out?
Do you really suggest Israel is making all that up?
Do you seriously mean to suggest that the last 47 years of Iranian jihadism against us never happened?
You should be angry that it took our political leadership so long to deal with the Iranian problem.
Trump is by God dealilng with it.
Finally.
Someone willing to ignore the goobers making excuses for doing nothing.
What’s happening right now in Iran is not Israel’s war. It’s not a Jewish vendetta, it’s not a Middle East skirmish that has nothing to do with the rest of us, and contrary to Tucker Carlson, it has nothing to do with Chabad. You need to know what’s actually going on.
— A Man Of Memes (@RickyDoggin) March 8, 2026
Washington… pic.twitter.com/HsjH0Kfewh
Such lies, upon lies, upon endless lies.
Anyone with half a brain knows we're being lied into war yet again.
Anyone with half a brain knows we're being lied into war yet again.
Tucker certainly kicked over an anthill when he identified IDF soldiers wearing temple patches and traced them back to Chabad.
This is why he is worth watching. The man has an uncanny ability to peel back layers of an onion and expose goings on in the world. Without him how many of you would have realized that *some* Jews - and again, for the "Reeeeeeeee! Antisemitism!" crowd please notice the word with asterisks - and Christian Zionists see this war as an opportunity to eliminate the Dome of the Rock and blame it on Iran?
At any rate, this is interesting:
https://www.militarytimes.com/news/your-military/2026/03/05/largest-us-military-hospital-abroad-halts-labor-delivery-services-amid-iran-war/
As is this:
https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!2bC1!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F60a63d11-ddbf-4547-ba47-e03eacd77b57_803x700.jpeg
Is Hegseth's DOD playing the role of Bhagdad Bob about our own casualties this time around?
This is why he is worth watching. The man has an uncanny ability to peel back layers of an onion and expose goings on in the world. Without him how many of you would have realized that *some* Jews - and again, for the "Reeeeeeeee! Antisemitism!" crowd please notice the word with asterisks - and Christian Zionists see this war as an opportunity to eliminate the Dome of the Rock and blame it on Iran?
At any rate, this is interesting:
https://www.militarytimes.com/news/your-military/2026/03/05/largest-us-military-hospital-abroad-halts-labor-delivery-services-amid-iran-war/
As is this:
https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!2bC1!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F60a63d11-ddbf-4547-ba47-e03eacd77b57_803x700.jpeg
Is Hegseth's DOD playing the role of Bhagdad Bob about our own casualties this time around?
Sam Lowry said:
Such lies, upon lies, upon endless lies.
Anyone with half a brain knows we're being lied into war yet again.
Sunday Update...
"From data centers in the Gulf area to water desalination plants, the worst-case scenario is now unfolding in the Middle East conflict, with no boundaries regarding civilian infrastructure.
Al Jazeera reports that after Iranian Foreign Minister Seyed Abbas Araghchi claimed the US targeted a water desalination plant in Iran, an IRGC kamikaze drone then targeted a desalination plant in Bahrain.
Al Jazeera also outlined the importance of water desalination plants to the Gulf region:
"From data centers in the Gulf area to water desalination plants, the worst-case scenario is now unfolding in the Middle East conflict, with no boundaries regarding civilian infrastructure.
Al Jazeera reports that after Iranian Foreign Minister Seyed Abbas Araghchi claimed the US targeted a water desalination plant in Iran, an IRGC kamikaze drone then targeted a desalination plant in Bahrain.
Bahrain says an Iranian strike damaged a desalination plant, marking a new phase of the conflict targeting water infrastructure.
— Clash Report (@clashreport) March 8, 2026
Gulf countries rely heavily on desalination.
Qatar nearly 100%, Kuwait and Bahrain ~90%, Oman 86%, Saudi Arabia 70%.
The strike came after… pic.twitter.com/XgEJ0M6YR3
Al Jazeera also outlined the importance of water desalination plants to the Gulf region:
- GCC states hold about 60% of global desalination capacity and produce around 40% of the world's desalinated water through more than 400 plants.
- Most GCC countries rely heavily on desalination: 90% of Kuwait's drinking water, 86% in Oman, 70% in Saudi Arabia, and 42% in the UAE.
- Saudi Arabia is the world's largest producer, with capacity projected to reach 8.5 million cubic meters per day by 2025 after $80 billion in investments."
The_barBEARian said:D. C. Bear said:Sam Lowry said:D. C. Bear said:Sam Lowry said:
Iran didn't disregard the nuclear agreement. We disregarded it and refused an even better agreement that was on the table a week ago.
It depends on what the meaning of the word "disregard" is.
Well, I think we both know what that is. It's the word you use when you want to say "violate" but you can't.
If what Iran did in concealing its nuclear program wasn't a violation of the agreement, then the agreement would not seem to be worth much.
Does our government know where and how many nukes Israel has?
Israel doesn't have nukes, but they will only use them in the event of an existential threat to their nation.
More seriously, we may or may not know exactly how many weapons Israel has or exactly where they are, but Israel's weapons do not pose a threat to us in the same way that the UK's weapons do not pose a threat to us. Do we know where all the French nuclear weapons are?
The assumption behind your question is that Israel offers the same threat to the United States as the Islamic Republic. They are not comparable.
Sam Lowry said:D. C. Bear said:Sam Lowry said:D. C. Bear said:Sam Lowry said:
Iran didn't disregard the nuclear agreement. We disregarded it and refused an even better agreement that was on the table a week ago.
It depends on what the meaning of the word "disregard" is.
Well, I think we both know what that is. It's the word you use when you want to say "violate" but you can't.
If what Iran did in concealing its nuclear program wasn't a violation of the agreement, then the agreement would not seem to be worth much.
What did they conceal? They have every right to a nuclear program under the NNPT and the JCPOA.
They concealed the extent of their nuclear weapons development.
1. Iran's goal: getting the protection offered by nuclear weapons and ballistic missiles.
2. United States goal: Iran NOT getting the protection offered by nuclear weapons and ballistic missiles.
These are incompatible, and the agreements allowed for the first and not the second. Iran was on the way to becoming the next North Korea in terms of being a nuclear threat. This was not going to be solved by "agreements."
Sam Lowry said:
Such lies, upon lies, upon endless lies.
Anyone with half a brain knows we're being lied into war yet again.
Source?
D. C. Bear said:Sam Lowry said:D. C. Bear said:Sam Lowry said:D. C. Bear said:Sam Lowry said:
Iran didn't disregard the nuclear agreement. We disregarded it and refused an even better agreement that was on the table a week ago.
It depends on what the meaning of the word "disregard" is.
Well, I think we both know what that is. It's the word you use when you want to say "violate" but you can't.
If what Iran did in concealing its nuclear program wasn't a violation of the agreement, then the agreement would not seem to be worth much.
What did they conceal? They have every right to a nuclear program under the NNPT and the JCPOA.
They concealed the extent of their nuclear weapons development.
1. Iran's goal: getting the protection offered by nuclear weapons and ballistic missiles.
2. United States goal: Iran NOT getting the protection offered by nuclear weapons and ballistic missiles.
These are incompatible, and the agreements allowed for the first and not the second. Iran was on the way to becoming the next North Korea in terms of being a nuclear threat. This was not going to be solved by "agreements."
Probably true, given the past leadership. Now that they are all dead, nobody knows. If we are going to avoid a full invasion, an agreement will need to be made.
The_barBEARian said:
Ute, get a 50 lb rucksack and start doing 2 4 miles walks a day - at a 14 min mile pace ......
- UF
..... as well as 8 sets of 50 Up/Downs interspersed thru out the day.
D!
{ sipping coffee }
{ eating donut }
pro ecclesia, pro javelina
D. C. Bear said:Sam Lowry said:D. C. Bear said:Sam Lowry said:D. C. Bear said:Sam Lowry said:
Iran didn't disregard the nuclear agreement. We disregarded it and refused an even better agreement that was on the table a week ago.
It depends on what the meaning of the word "disregard" is.
Well, I think we both know what that is. It's the word you use when you want to say "violate" but you can't.
If what Iran did in concealing its nuclear program wasn't a violation of the agreement, then the agreement would not seem to be worth much.
What did they conceal? They have every right to a nuclear program under the NNPT and the JCPOA.
They concealed the extent of their nuclear weapons development.
1. Iran's goal: getting the protection offered by nuclear weapons and ballistic missiles.
2. United States goal: Iran NOT getting the protection offered by nuclear weapons and ballistic missiles.
These are incompatible, and the agreements allowed for the first and not the second. Iran was on the way to becoming the next North Korea in terms of being a nuclear threat. This was not going to be solved by "agreements."
When Iran says they want Israel to cease to exist, I'm not real sure their nukes would be for a defensive posture.
Cite where those specifically say Iran may build a nuclear weapon
🚨 IRAQI OIL PRODUCTION FROM SOUTHERN OILFIELDS FALLS TO 1.3 MILLION BPD FROM AROUND 4.3 MILLION BPD - THREE SOURCES SAY
— *Walter Bloomberg (@DeItaone) March 8, 2026
BREAKING: Iran rejects negotiations, says ready for U.S. ground invasion, per TIME.
— Leading Report (@LeadingReport) March 8, 2026
🚨🇺🇸🇮🇷 U.S officials are reportedly discussing a plan to seize Iran’s Kharg Island, the chokepoint responsible for roughly 90% of Iran’s oil exports.
— Mario Nawfal (@MarioNawfal) March 8, 2026
If the proposal moves forward, the island would fall under direct U.S. military control in the next phase of the war.
And Kharg… https://t.co/CJzs393EEx pic.twitter.com/cWAqNbFJjA
The oil is flowing into the sewers and the streets are on fire in Tehran pic.twitter.com/00vKSORe5D
— Conflict Radar (@Conflict_Radar) March 7, 2026
boognish_bear said:🚨🇺🇸🇮🇷 U.S officials are reportedly discussing a plan to seize Iran’s Kharg Island, the chokepoint responsible for roughly 90% of Iran’s oil exports.
— Mario Nawfal (@MarioNawfal) March 8, 2026
If the proposal moves forward, the island would fall under direct U.S. military control in the next phase of the war.
And Kharg… https://t.co/CJzs393EEx pic.twitter.com/cWAqNbFJjA
That would be a very clever move.
Get that island as a staging area.
D. C. Bear said:The_barBEARian said:D. C. Bear said:Sam Lowry said:D. C. Bear said:Sam Lowry said:
Iran didn't disregard the nuclear agreement. We disregarded it and refused an even better agreement that was on the table a week ago.
It depends on what the meaning of the word "disregard" is.
Well, I think we both know what that is. It's the word you use when you want to say "violate" but you can't.
If what Iran did in concealing its nuclear program wasn't a violation of the agreement, then the agreement would not seem to be worth much.
Does our government know where and how many nukes Israel has?
Israel doesn't have nukes, but they will only use them in the event of an existential threat to their nation.
More seriously, we may or may not know exactly how many weapons Israel has or exactly where they are, but Israel's weapons do not pose a threat to us in the same way that the UK's weapons do not pose a threat to us. Do we know where all the French nuclear weapons are?
The assumption behind your question is that Israel offers the same threat to the United States as the Islamic Republic. They are not comparable.
France and the UK are signees of the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Act.
Does Israel or Iran offer the same threat? This is where the generational divide comes, most people under 40 feel Boomers overstate the threat Iran poses to America and refuse to even acknowledge the threat Israel poses to America. Boomers have been indoctrinated into believing Israel is "our greatest ally" when they have betrayed America many times.
LINDSEY GRAHAM: Israel and the United States -- you just wait to see what comes the next two weeks
— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) March 8, 2026
BARTIROMO: Meaning what?
GRAHAM: We're going to blow the hell out of these people pic.twitter.com/kfz8BZL0Ze
D. C. Bear said:Sam Lowry said:D. C. Bear said:Sam Lowry said:D. C. Bear said:Sam Lowry said:
Iran didn't disregard the nuclear agreement. We disregarded it and refused an even better agreement that was on the table a week ago.
It depends on what the meaning of the word "disregard" is.
Well, I think we both know what that is. It's the word you use when you want to say "violate" but you can't.
If what Iran did in concealing its nuclear program wasn't a violation of the agreement, then the agreement would not seem to be worth much.
What did they conceal? They have every right to a nuclear program under the NNPT and the JCPOA.
They concealed the extent of their nuclear weapons development.
1. Iran's goal: getting the protection offered by nuclear weapons and ballistic missiles.
2. United States goal: Iran NOT getting the protection offered by nuclear weapons and ballistic missiles.
These are incompatible, and the agreements allowed for the first and not the second. Iran was on the way to becoming the next North Korea in terms of being a nuclear threat. This was not going to be solved by "agreements."
DC....what is your opinion on this war ? It appears Iran is politically isolated and its economy is in horrible shape. Is this war , at this time, the right move. Or has Trump totally screwed up ?
The_barBEARian said:D. C. Bear said:The_barBEARian said:D. C. Bear said:Sam Lowry said:D. C. Bear said:Sam Lowry said:
Iran didn't disregard the nuclear agreement. We disregarded it and refused an even better agreement that was on the table a week ago.
It depends on what the meaning of the word "disregard" is.
Well, I think we both know what that is. It's the word you use when you want to say "violate" but you can't.
If what Iran did in concealing its nuclear program wasn't a violation of the agreement, then the agreement would not seem to be worth much.
Does our government know where and how many nukes Israel has?
Israel doesn't have nukes, but they will only use them in the event of an existential threat to their nation.
More seriously, we may or may not know exactly how many weapons Israel has or exactly where they are, but Israel's weapons do not pose a threat to us in the same way that the UK's weapons do not pose a threat to us. Do we know where all the French nuclear weapons are?
The assumption behind your question is that Israel offers the same threat to the United States as the Islamic Republic. They are not comparable.
France and the UK are signees of the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Act.
Does Israel or Iran offer the same threat? This is where the generational divide comes, most people under 40 feel Boomers overstate the threat Iran poses to America and refuse to even acknowledge the threat Israel poses to America. Boomers have been indoctrinated into believing Israel is "our greatest ally" when they have betrayed America many times.
When people show you who they are for a half century, as Iran has, you should start to believe them.
The youngest of these "boomers" you speak of are over 60 years old. The under 40 crowd you esteem so much tend to think socialism is a good idea, too, perhaps because they are too young to actually have a clue what it does, perhaps because they are stupid.
If you think that Israel and Iran offer the same threat to the United States, you are a moron, just like you are a moron if you think that socialism is a good idea.
D. C. Bear said:The_barBEARian said:D. C. Bear said:The_barBEARian said:D. C. Bear said:Sam Lowry said:D. C. Bear said:Sam Lowry said:
Iran didn't disregard the nuclear agreement. We disregarded it and refused an even better agreement that was on the table a week ago.
It depends on what the meaning of the word "disregard" is.
Well, I think we both know what that is. It's the word you use when you want to say "violate" but you can't.
If what Iran did in concealing its nuclear program wasn't a violation of the agreement, then the agreement would not seem to be worth much.
Does our government know where and how many nukes Israel has?
Israel doesn't have nukes, but they will only use them in the event of an existential threat to their nation.
More seriously, we may or may not know exactly how many weapons Israel has or exactly where they are, but Israel's weapons do not pose a threat to us in the same way that the UK's weapons do not pose a threat to us. Do we know where all the French nuclear weapons are?
The assumption behind your question is that Israel offers the same threat to the United States as the Islamic Republic. They are not comparable.
France and the UK are signees of the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Act.
Does Israel or Iran offer the same threat? This is where the generational divide comes, most people under 40 feel Boomers overstate the threat Iran poses to America and refuse to even acknowledge the threat Israel poses to America. Boomers have been indoctrinated into believing Israel is "our greatest ally" when they have betrayed America many times.
When people show you who they are for a half century, as Iran has, you should start to believe them.
The youngest of these "boomers" you speak of are over 60 years old. The under 40 crowd you esteem so much tend to think socialism is a good idea, too, perhaps because they are too young to actually have a clue what it does, perhaps because they are stupid.
If you think that Israel and Iran offer the same threat to the United States, you are a moron, just like you are a moron if you think that socialism is a good idea.
Well, that is pretty clear... : )
D. C. Bear said:The_barBEARian said:D. C. Bear said:The_barBEARian said:D. C. Bear said:Sam Lowry said:D. C. Bear said:Sam Lowry said:
Iran didn't disregard the nuclear agreement. We disregarded it and refused an even better agreement that was on the table a week ago.
It depends on what the meaning of the word "disregard" is.
Well, I think we both know what that is. It's the word you use when you want to say "violate" but you can't.
If what Iran did in concealing its nuclear program wasn't a violation of the agreement, then the agreement would not seem to be worth much.
Does our government know where and how many nukes Israel has?
Israel doesn't have nukes, but they will only use them in the event of an existential threat to their nation.
More seriously, we may or may not know exactly how many weapons Israel has or exactly where they are, but Israel's weapons do not pose a threat to us in the same way that the UK's weapons do not pose a threat to us. Do we know where all the French nuclear weapons are?
The assumption behind your question is that Israel offers the same threat to the United States as the Islamic Republic. They are not comparable.
France and the UK are signees of the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Act.
Does Israel or Iran offer the same threat? This is where the generational divide comes, most people under 40 feel Boomers overstate the threat Iran poses to America and refuse to even acknowledge the threat Israel poses to America. Boomers have been indoctrinated into believing Israel is "our greatest ally" when they have betrayed America many times.
When people show you who they are for a half century, as Iran has, you should start to believe them.
The youngest of these "boomers" you speak of are over 60 years old. The under 40 crowd you esteem so much tend to think socialism is a good idea, too, perhaps because they are too young to actually have a clue what it does, perhaps because they are stupid.
If you think that Israel and Iran offer the same threat to the United States, you are a moron, just like you are a moron if you think that socialism is a good idea.
Judging by the amount of tax dollars that have been squandered on Israel alone, they are a threat to the American people's prosperity.
No other country has taken so much and given back to little in return. It feels less symbiotic and more like we are a vassal state sending tribute to our Masters.
To address your strawman, no communism doesnt work... but neither does whatever we are living in today as evidenced by the 40 trillion dollar historic debt-to-GDP.
The_barBEARian said:D. C. Bear said:The_barBEARian said:D. C. Bear said:The_barBEARian said:D. C. Bear said:Sam Lowry said:D. C. Bear said:Sam Lowry said:
Iran didn't disregard the nuclear agreement. We disregarded it and refused an even better agreement that was on the table a week ago.
It depends on what the meaning of the word "disregard" is.
Well, I think we both know what that is. It's the word you use when you want to say "violate" but you can't.
If what Iran did in concealing its nuclear program wasn't a violation of the agreement, then the agreement would not seem to be worth much.
Does our government know where and how many nukes Israel has?
Israel doesn't have nukes, but they will only use them in the event of an existential threat to their nation.
More seriously, we may or may not know exactly how many weapons Israel has or exactly where they are, but Israel's weapons do not pose a threat to us in the same way that the UK's weapons do not pose a threat to us. Do we know where all the French nuclear weapons are?
The assumption behind your question is that Israel offers the same threat to the United States as the Islamic Republic. They are not comparable.
France and the UK are signees of the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Act.
Does Israel or Iran offer the same threat? This is where the generational divide comes, most people under 40 feel Boomers overstate the threat Iran poses to America and refuse to even acknowledge the threat Israel poses to America. Boomers have been indoctrinated into believing Israel is "our greatest ally" when they have betrayed America many times.
When people show you who they are for a half century, as Iran has, you should start to believe them.
The youngest of these "boomers" you speak of are over 60 years old. The under 40 crowd you esteem so much tend to think socialism is a good idea, too, perhaps because they are too young to actually have a clue what it does, perhaps because they are stupid.
If you think that Israel and Iran offer the same threat to the United States, you are a moron, just like you are a moron if you think that socialism is a good idea.
Judging by the amount of tax dollars that have been squandered on Israel alone, they are a threat to the American people's prosperity.
No other country has taken so much and given back to little in return. It feels less symbiotic and more like we are a vassal state sending tribute to our Masters.
To address your strawman, no communism doesnt work... but neither does whatever we are living in today as evidenced by the 40 trillion dollar historic debt-to-GDP.
Name the country(ies) that have a better system.
I'll wait.
LIB,MR BEARS said:The_barBEARian said:D. C. Bear said:The_barBEARian said:D. C. Bear said:The_barBEARian said:D. C. Bear said:Sam Lowry said:D. C. Bear said:Sam Lowry said:
Iran didn't disregard the nuclear agreement. We disregarded it and refused an even better agreement that was on the table a week ago.
It depends on what the meaning of the word "disregard" is.
Well, I think we both know what that is. It's the word you use when you want to say "violate" but you can't.
If what Iran did in concealing its nuclear program wasn't a violation of the agreement, then the agreement would not seem to be worth much.
Does our government know where and how many nukes Israel has?
Israel doesn't have nukes, but they will only use them in the event of an existential threat to their nation.
More seriously, we may or may not know exactly how many weapons Israel has or exactly where they are, but Israel's weapons do not pose a threat to us in the same way that the UK's weapons do not pose a threat to us. Do we know where all the French nuclear weapons are?
The assumption behind your question is that Israel offers the same threat to the United States as the Islamic Republic. They are not comparable.
France and the UK are signees of the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Act.
Does Israel or Iran offer the same threat? This is where the generational divide comes, most people under 40 feel Boomers overstate the threat Iran poses to America and refuse to even acknowledge the threat Israel poses to America. Boomers have been indoctrinated into believing Israel is "our greatest ally" when they have betrayed America many times.
When people show you who they are for a half century, as Iran has, you should start to believe them.
The youngest of these "boomers" you speak of are over 60 years old. The under 40 crowd you esteem so much tend to think socialism is a good idea, too, perhaps because they are too young to actually have a clue what it does, perhaps because they are stupid.
If you think that Israel and Iran offer the same threat to the United States, you are a moron, just like you are a moron if you think that socialism is a good idea.
Judging by the amount of tax dollars that have been squandered on Israel alone, they are a threat to the American people's prosperity.
No other country has taken so much and given back to little in return. It feels less symbiotic and more like we are a vassal state sending tribute to our Masters.
To address your strawman, no communism doesnt work... but neither does whatever we are living in today as evidenced by the 40 trillion dollar historic debt-to-GDP.
Name the country(ies) that have a better system.
I'll wait.
Problem is that the Nations that have systems that work are all under the US protection blanket. Scandinavia has some nice lifestyles. Aussie/NZ, same. NATO has provided the security to develop those systems, but part of that is the 40T debt we have.
He needs to realize that any of the more "social" economies, need a big brother on the walls to allow that "social kindness". Kindness is not part of nature, it is paid for by soldiers.
The_barBEARian said:D. C. Bear said:The_barBEARian said:D. C. Bear said:The_barBEARian said:D. C. Bear said:Sam Lowry said:D. C. Bear said:Sam Lowry said:
Iran didn't disregard the nuclear agreement. We disregarded it and refused an even better agreement that was on the table a week ago.
It depends on what the meaning of the word "disregard" is.
Well, I think we both know what that is. It's the word you use when you want to say "violate" but you can't.
If what Iran did in concealing its nuclear program wasn't a violation of the agreement, then the agreement would not seem to be worth much.
Does our government know where and how many nukes Israel has?
Israel doesn't have nukes, but they will only use them in the event of an existential threat to their nation.
More seriously, we may or may not know exactly how many weapons Israel has or exactly where they are, but Israel's weapons do not pose a threat to us in the same way that the UK's weapons do not pose a threat to us. Do we know where all the French nuclear weapons are?
The assumption behind your question is that Israel offers the same threat to the United States as the Islamic Republic. They are not comparable.
France and the UK are signees of the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Act.
Does Israel or Iran offer the same threat? This is where the generational divide comes, most people under 40 feel Boomers overstate the threat Iran poses to America and refuse to even acknowledge the threat Israel poses to America. Boomers have been indoctrinated into believing Israel is "our greatest ally" when they have betrayed America many times.
When people show you who they are for a half century, as Iran has, you should start to believe them.
The youngest of these "boomers" you speak of are over 60 years old. The under 40 crowd you esteem so much tend to think socialism is a good idea, too, perhaps because they are too young to actually have a clue what it does, perhaps because they are stupid.
If you think that Israel and Iran offer the same threat to the United States, you are a moron, just like you are a moron if you think that socialism is a good idea.
Judging by the amount of tax dollars that have been squandered on Israel alone, they are a threat to the American people's prosperity.
No other country has taken so much and given back to little in return. It feels less symbiotic and more like we are a vassal state sending tribute to our Masters.
To address your strawman, no communism doesnt work... but neither does whatever we are living in today as evidenced by the 40 trillion dollar historic debt-to-GDP.
We give about 3.8 billion annually to Israel, which they use mostly to purchase American military hardware. This represents about .22 percent of the federal budget deficit. We would have to increase our aid to them 4 or 5 times its current level to get to one percent of the deficit. That is not a threat to our prosperity. To quote Senator Kennedy, "You may not be the dumbest person in the world, but you better hope the dumbest person in the world doesn't die."
We get technology from them, too, and good stuff. It is not a one-way street.
D. C. Bear said:
If you think that Israel and Iran offer the same threat to the United States, you are a moron, just like you are a moron if you think that socialism is a good idea.
I'll be more specific in asking this question:
Does Iran or Israel pose a greater threat to American sovereignty?
Realitybites said:D. C. Bear said:
If you think that Israel and Iran offer the same threat to the United States, you are a moron, just like you are a moron if you think that socialism is a good idea.
I'll be more specific in asking this question:
Does Iran or Israel pose a greater threat to American sovereignty?
Can you define what you mean by "American sovereignty?"
LIB,MR BEARS said:The_barBEARian said:D. C. Bear said:The_barBEARian said:D. C. Bear said:The_barBEARian said:D. C. Bear said:Sam Lowry said:D. C. Bear said:Sam Lowry said:
Iran didn't disregard the nuclear agreement. We disregarded it and refused an even better agreement that was on the table a week ago.
It depends on what the meaning of the word "disregard" is.
Well, I think we both know what that is. It's the word you use when you want to say "violate" but you can't.
If what Iran did in concealing its nuclear program wasn't a violation of the agreement, then the agreement would not seem to be worth much.
Does our government know where and how many nukes Israel has?
Israel doesn't have nukes, but they will only use them in the event of an existential threat to their nation.
More seriously, we may or may not know exactly how many weapons Israel has or exactly where they are, but Israel's weapons do not pose a threat to us in the same way that the UK's weapons do not pose a threat to us. Do we know where all the French nuclear weapons are?
The assumption behind your question is that Israel offers the same threat to the United States as the Islamic Republic. They are not comparable.
France and the UK are signees of the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Act.
Does Israel or Iran offer the same threat? This is where the generational divide comes, most people under 40 feel Boomers overstate the threat Iran poses to America and refuse to even acknowledge the threat Israel poses to America. Boomers have been indoctrinated into believing Israel is "our greatest ally" when they have betrayed America many times.
When people show you who they are for a half century, as Iran has, you should start to believe them.
The youngest of these "boomers" you speak of are over 60 years old. The under 40 crowd you esteem so much tend to think socialism is a good idea, too, perhaps because they are too young to actually have a clue what it does, perhaps because they are stupid.
If you think that Israel and Iran offer the same threat to the United States, you are a moron, just like you are a moron if you think that socialism is a good idea.
Judging by the amount of tax dollars that have been squandered on Israel alone, they are a threat to the American people's prosperity.
No other country has taken so much and given back to little in return. It feels less symbiotic and more like we are a vassal state sending tribute to our Masters.
To address your strawman, no communism doesnt work... but neither does whatever we are living in today as evidenced by the 40 trillion dollar historic debt-to-GDP.
Name the country(ies) that have a better system.
I'll wait.
Norway.
Their sovereign wealth fund is worth over 2 trillion and their citizens get free healthcare, free college, and pensions to all its citizens and they have robust free speech laws. Tax rate is similar to US but they at least abolished the death tax.
Costa Rica.
Low taxes. Protected Free Speech. One of the most beautiful countries on Earth.
The Gulf Arabs.
Their citizens don't pay taxes. If I didn't pay taxes, I'd have very little to complain about. Living in the desert sucks, but they all have second homes all over Europe and Asia they where they spend most of their time.
This is all off the top of my head without consulting with Chat GPT... but I'm sure you could add many more to the list.
D. C. Bear said:The_barBEARian said:D. C. Bear said:The_barBEARian said:D. C. Bear said:The_barBEARian said:D. C. Bear said:Sam Lowry said:D. C. Bear said:Sam Lowry said:
Iran didn't disregard the nuclear agreement. We disregarded it and refused an even better agreement that was on the table a week ago.
It depends on what the meaning of the word "disregard" is.
Well, I think we both know what that is. It's the word you use when you want to say "violate" but you can't.
If what Iran did in concealing its nuclear program wasn't a violation of the agreement, then the agreement would not seem to be worth much.
Does our government know where and how many nukes Israel has?
Israel doesn't have nukes, but they will only use them in the event of an existential threat to their nation.
More seriously, we may or may not know exactly how many weapons Israel has or exactly where they are, but Israel's weapons do not pose a threat to us in the same way that the UK's weapons do not pose a threat to us. Do we know where all the French nuclear weapons are?
The assumption behind your question is that Israel offers the same threat to the United States as the Islamic Republic. They are not comparable.
France and the UK are signees of the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Act.
Does Israel or Iran offer the same threat? This is where the generational divide comes, most people under 40 feel Boomers overstate the threat Iran poses to America and refuse to even acknowledge the threat Israel poses to America. Boomers have been indoctrinated into believing Israel is "our greatest ally" when they have betrayed America many times.
When people show you who they are for a half century, as Iran has, you should start to believe them.
The youngest of these "boomers" you speak of are over 60 years old. The under 40 crowd you esteem so much tend to think socialism is a good idea, too, perhaps because they are too young to actually have a clue what it does, perhaps because they are stupid.
If you think that Israel and Iran offer the same threat to the United States, you are a moron, just like you are a moron if you think that socialism is a good idea.
Judging by the amount of tax dollars that have been squandered on Israel alone, they are a threat to the American people's prosperity.
No other country has taken so much and given back to little in return. It feels less symbiotic and more like we are a vassal state sending tribute to our Masters.
To address your strawman, no communism doesnt work... but neither does whatever we are living in today as evidenced by the 40 trillion dollar historic debt-to-GDP.
We give about 3.8 billion annually to Israel, which they use mostly to purchase American military hardware. This represents about .22 percent of the federal budget deficit. We would have to increase our aid to them 4 or 5 times its current level to get to one percent of the deficit. That is not a threat to our prosperity. To quote Senator Kennedy, "You may not be the dumbest person in the world, but you better hope the dumbest person in the world doesn't die."
We get technology from them, too, and good stuff. It is not a one-way street.
40-yr old mid-wit thinks he knows more than an entire generation of 60-70yr olds who've watched the way the world works as adults for as long he's been alive.
Young leftists are like that - convinced they have discovered great truths that the entirety of mankind before them has missed. So they propose to smash everything to pieces and build a utopia - "…unburdened by what has been.."
D. C. Bear said:The_barBEARian said:D. C. Bear said:The_barBEARian said:D. C. Bear said:The_barBEARian said:D. C. Bear said:Sam Lowry said:D. C. Bear said:Sam Lowry said:
Iran didn't disregard the nuclear agreement. We disregarded it and refused an even better agreement that was on the table a week ago.
It depends on what the meaning of the word "disregard" is.
Well, I think we both know what that is. It's the word you use when you want to say "violate" but you can't.
If what Iran did in concealing its nuclear program wasn't a violation of the agreement, then the agreement would not seem to be worth much.
Does our government know where and how many nukes Israel has?
Israel doesn't have nukes, but they will only use them in the event of an existential threat to their nation.
More seriously, we may or may not know exactly how many weapons Israel has or exactly where they are, but Israel's weapons do not pose a threat to us in the same way that the UK's weapons do not pose a threat to us. Do we know where all the French nuclear weapons are?
The assumption behind your question is that Israel offers the same threat to the United States as the Islamic Republic. They are not comparable.
France and the UK are signees of the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Act.
Does Israel or Iran offer the same threat? This is where the generational divide comes, most people under 40 feel Boomers overstate the threat Iran poses to America and refuse to even acknowledge the threat Israel poses to America. Boomers have been indoctrinated into believing Israel is "our greatest ally" when they have betrayed America many times.
When people show you who they are for a half century, as Iran has, you should start to believe them.
The youngest of these "boomers" you speak of are over 60 years old. The under 40 crowd you esteem so much tend to think socialism is a good idea, too, perhaps because they are too young to actually have a clue what it does, perhaps because they are stupid.
If you think that Israel and Iran offer the same threat to the United States, you are a moron, just like you are a moron if you think that socialism is a good idea.
Judging by the amount of tax dollars that have been squandered on Israel alone, they are a threat to the American people's prosperity.
No other country has taken so much and given back to little in return. It feels less symbiotic and more like we are a vassal state sending tribute to our Masters.
To address your strawman, no communism doesnt work... but neither does whatever we are living in today as evidenced by the 40 trillion dollar historic debt-to-GDP.
We give about 3.8 billion annually to Israel, which they use mostly to purchase American military hardware. This represents about .22 percent of the federal budget deficit. We would have to increase our aid to them 4 or 5 times its current level to get to one percent of the deficit. That is not a threat to our prosperity. To quote Senator Kennedy, "You may not be the dumbest person in the world, but you better hope the dumbest person in the world doesn't die."
We get technology from them, too, and good stuff. It is not a one-way street.
They literally the most capable and willing ally we have.
boognish_bear said:BREAKING: Iran rejects negotiations, says ready for U.S. ground invasion, per TIME.
— Leading Report (@LeadingReport) March 8, 2026
Or in English, Iran is almost completely out of things to shoot at Americans and desperately hopes Trump will be possessed by GW Bush and send troops.
You may note there is no sign of US troop movements in that direction. Looks a lot more like we'll be Mullah-hunting the rest of March or until someone takes power in Iran who figures out the score.
D. C. Bear said:The_barBEARian said:D. C. Bear said:The_barBEARian said:D. C. Bear said:The_barBEARian said:D. C. Bear said:Sam Lowry said:D. C. Bear said:Sam Lowry said:
Iran didn't disregard the nuclear agreement. We disregarded it and refused an even better agreement that was on the table a week ago.
It depends on what the meaning of the word "disregard" is.
Well, I think we both know what that is. It's the word you use when you want to say "violate" but you can't.
If what Iran did in concealing its nuclear program wasn't a violation of the agreement, then the agreement would not seem to be worth much.
Does our government know where and how many nukes Israel has?
Israel doesn't have nukes, but they will only use them in the event of an existential threat to their nation.
More seriously, we may or may not know exactly how many weapons Israel has or exactly where they are, but Israel's weapons do not pose a threat to us in the same way that the UK's weapons do not pose a threat to us. Do we know where all the French nuclear weapons are?
The assumption behind your question is that Israel offers the same threat to the United States as the Islamic Republic. They are not comparable.
France and the UK are signees of the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Act.
Does Israel or Iran offer the same threat? This is where the generational divide comes, most people under 40 feel Boomers overstate the threat Iran poses to America and refuse to even acknowledge the threat Israel poses to America. Boomers have been indoctrinated into believing Israel is "our greatest ally" when they have betrayed America many times.
When people show you who they are for a half century, as Iran has, you should start to believe them.
The youngest of these "boomers" you speak of are over 60 years old. The under 40 crowd you esteem so much tend to think socialism is a good idea, too, perhaps because they are too young to actually have a clue what it does, perhaps because they are stupid.
If you think that Israel and Iran offer the same threat to the United States, you are a moron, just like you are a moron if you think that socialism is a good idea.
Judging by the amount of tax dollars that have been squandered on Israel alone, they are a threat to the American people's prosperity.
No other country has taken so much and given back to little in return. It feels less symbiotic and more like we are a vassal state sending tribute to our Masters.
To address your strawman, no communism doesnt work... but neither does whatever we are living in today as evidenced by the 40 trillion dollar historic debt-to-GDP.
We give about 3.8 billion annually to Israel, which they use mostly to purchase American military hardware. This represents about .22 percent of the federal budget deficit. We would have to increase our aid to them 4 or 5 times its current level to get to one percent of the deficit. That is not a threat to our prosperity. To quote Senator Kennedy, "You may not be the dumbest person in the world, but you better hope the dumbest person in the world doesn't die."
We get technology from them, too, and good stuff. It is not a one-way street.
So what if you only blew 20 grand on strippers?... its only 1% of your net worth!
The fact that you have to keep calling me dumb rather than letting your argument speak for itself is very telling.
Besides America spends a lot more defending Israel than 4 billion per year.
Its very fair to say after this past week the majority of the 1 trillion dollar defense budget is used to serve Israeli interests.
We are currently spending 2 billion a day!!!
Before the Iran war, we had spent 40 billion since Oct 7th.
All the foreign aid to Jordan and Egypt is for Israel.
There was no referendum asking the American people if they supported this war and I'd like to think a lot of congressmen are going to lose their jobs in November over voting against the war powers act but this country is so incredibly corrupt I doubt much will change.