President Trump announces military strikes on Iran: Operation Epic Fury

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william
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We're going to have to Bunker Bust the entire Iranian side of the SoH before we can realistically send in the Marines.....

- UF

They're embedded like ticks.

D!

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Wangchung said:

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Very cool, I'm glad we let Israel drag us into this war. This will do wonders for energy prices.

US energy companies are going to make one hell of a lot of money.


Not anytime soon. Most domestic LNG projects are years behind and over budget. There is very little export capacity online currently. Might help long term, might get a few projects to FID. Will still be years until capacity meaningfully starts to increase.
Wouldn't the scarcity of competition make funding those budgets realistic? Seems like necessity would fuel the development of capacity.


Perhaps, if the global supply is disrupted long term many projects that have otherwise stalled will probably move forward. But it will not be a this year or likely even this decade thing for many to be online.

Look up Golden Pass LNG (which is 70% owned by Qatar). That project and the paperwork for it began a decade ago. Construction began in 2019, has been delayed several times and is pretty healthily over its original budget (currently at around $10 billion as I understand). It just got FERC approval to start its first train (there will eventually be 3 total) so they should hopefully be ready to start lifting to ships in the next few weeks/months.

There simply isn't a tap that the US can turn on to make up production losses elsewhere in the world. Certainly not on LNG. That capability is years away at best.
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william said:

We're going to have to Bunker Bust the entire Iranian side of the SoH before we can realistically send in the Marines.....

- UF

They're embedded like ticks.

D!

{ sipping coffee }


There are reasons this has not been tried before, as much as this Board liked to dis former Govts and electeds they actually did their jobs very well. They knew the difference between leading Nation States and Businesses. It took a very special idiot SecDef and Staff working for a Narcissistic businessman to get us in this mess. A perfect storm.
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D. C. Bear said:

Any time there is an event like that it seems reasonable to expect an investigation.


The staff was saying the ship needed to get repairs after Venezuela. So idiot SecDef sends her straight to the middle east, war ethos.

This is the reason I got out. Blue chord, Infantry is enough, huah! crap. Guys like Hegswoth chased a lot of good soldiers out with this ***** Those maintenance paper pushers know nothing, who needs maintenance cycles, not real men.... Remfs requiring that we spent our time on maintenance? What do they know! We can do more pull ups. Can you do them in the smoke? Logistics matter...
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FLBear5630 said:

william said:

We're going to have to Bunker Bust the entire Iranian side of the SoH before we can realistically send in the Marines.....

- UF

They're embedded like ticks.

D!

{ sipping coffee }


There are reasons this has not been tried before, as much as this Board liked to dis former Govts and electeds they actually did their jobs very well. They knew the difference between leading Nation States and Businesses. It took a very special idiot SecDef and Staff working for a Narcissistic businessman to get us in this mess. A perfect storm.

there's ample other N/W pipelines for Oil.....

- UF

The LNG will be a problem.

and S - UAE and Qatar along w/ Iran are among the largest exporters.

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pro ecclesia, pro javelina
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Welcome to the Days of Eeyore.

Taking Iran from the hate-fueled tyranny of the Mullahs into a nation ruled by rational humans was always going to a difficult process. The value of doing so should be obvious.

Yet while we are still in the first month of the conflict, there is a chorus from whiners that we are losing and cannot win.

What utter cowardice.

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Jack Bauer said:



Ok Pete, tell us some more stuff that never happened.
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Crap, im driving to Florida tomorrow so I guess this is gonna be like a hurricane type situation where you gas up everyday just in case.
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Oldbear83 said:

Welcome to the Days of Eeyore.

Taking Iran from the hate-fueled tyranny of the Mullahs into a nation ruled by rational humans was always going to a difficult process. The value of doing so should be obvious.

Yet while we are still in the first month of the conflict, there is a chorus from whiners that we are losing and cannot win.

What utter cowardice.


The value proposition is far from obvious at this point.
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Your pro-mullah vote is noted.
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Oldbear83 said:

Your pro-mullah vote is noted.


While you were typing that... was there any thought like "man, this is going to make me look really stupid... I probably shouldnt post this..." ?
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boognish_bear said:



That didn't take long.
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The_barBEARian said:

Oldbear83 said:

Your pro-mullah vote is noted.


While you were typing that... was there any thought like "man, this is going to make me look really stupid... I probably shouldnt post this..." ?

Sounds more like something you should have said to yourself.

I stand with Christ and America. You stand, well, somewhere else, based on your posts.
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Oldbear83 said:

The_barBEARian said:

Oldbear83 said:

Your pro-mullah vote is noted.


While you were typing that... was there any thought like "man, this is going to make me look really stupid... I probably shouldnt post this..." ?

Sounds more like something you should have said to yourself.

I stand with Christ and America. You stand, well, somewhere else, based on your posts.


You sure about that?

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Sam Lowry said:

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BearFan33 said:

Kent did this correctly. If your boss is going in directions you can't support and won't listen to your advice, you resign. You don't resist and undermine like the embedded democrats do.

He's setting himself up for some good talk show money if he choses to go that route.

The conflict drags on. Trump desperately needs oil flow to continue through the straight for political reasons. I'm wondering why we don't escort ships through. I suspect it's currently too risky for our very expensive naval ships. Even if Japan was to mobilize their navy (which is probably modest) how long would it take to get there?

Iran is like if we are going down, we are going to make everyone feel the pain. Is droning the Gulf countries igoing to backfire? We will see.

This is going to really strain relations within NATO and the Ukraine war. Next time Ukraine comes with its hand out, I suspect Trump is going to send them to Europe and rightfully so.


The US economy has its own oil reserves.

Japan, India , China and most of Europe are the ones that need access through the Straits the most.

Past time to bomb Iranian oil facilities.

It's the obvious target.



Squeezing out Iranian supply squeezes everyone's supply, and thus price inflation.

Good grief......it s real ****ing war we are dealing with.

The goal is regime change otherwise these mullah's are going to just keep up their crap.

Bomb the Iranian oil fields and the locals will demand a new government when they begin to go hungry.

Really think the United States gave a **** about price inflaction when we were sinking the huge Japanese oil tanker fleet ?



When the boots hit the ground is when the war becomes really real. Perhaps understanding it isn't oil keeping them in power would be a good perspective for you. This is a nation that has spent decades under economic hardship. They are beholden to an ideology, and our Israeli bilateral war with them confirms to many their Friday prayer chants. You'd serve the purpose of regime change more by carpet bombing Tehran and Qom than taking out oil facilities. There's no appetite for such brutality, so if you just want to aggravate the global economic situation thus putting more pressure on the US to pull out, then sure, take out their oil infrastructure.


The goal is regime change.

Thankfully Israel is killing an unprecedented number of Iranian political and military leaders. The US has destroyed the Iranians air force and navy.

If this does not produce regime change immediately…..time to increase the pressure.

Privation of an enemies population always works.

Fire bombing civilian populations.
Unrestricted submarine warfare
Naval blockades.

The US has a long history of applying such tactics…. because they work. Destruction of Iranian oil facilities will shock the entire Iranian population and make them realize they have lost the war and regime change is necessary.

By the way……war is always brutal……the lack of a draft has insulated 90% of Americans from that bloody reality.

Such tactics almost never work and usually have the opposite effect. That's one reason the US now has a long history of losing wars.


The US has a long history of winning wars……dumbass.

Although the US does have a habit of ****ing up the following peace terms.

We win battles, not so much wars.
No, we win wars. We just don't always win the peace.
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barBEARian: " You sure about that?"

Of course. Not least because I am able to tell the difference between my Lord Jesus Christ, the United States of America, an Israeli politician and the government of Israel.

You seem to be struggling there.
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That is incredible.

Israel has somehow developed real time intelligence on the entire command structure of the Iranian leadership.

This continued slaughter of Iranian generals has to be causing a severe impact on Iranian military coordination and morale .
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The_barBEARian said:

J.R. said:

just saw where BroWar-lil Petey said gonna be at least $200B. It takes a lot of $ to kill bad guys, per lil Petey. Glad we can afford $200B. Howdy deficit.


Are you starting to understand why I got so pissed off about paying high taxes?... and the very idea I should have to pay even more?

With the amount of money this government wastes ... I am amazed there hasn't been another revolution already.

I think we all have issues with high taxes with waste like this. This is an Own Goal and 100% on Piggy. I don't mind paying taxes as the country has afforded me opportunity. Taxes need to be fair and shut down the loopholes. Trust me , I'm the king of the loophole.
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