President Trump announces military strikes on Iran: Operation Epic Fury

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FLBear5630
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KaiBear said:

FLBear5630 said:

ATL Bear said:

boognish_bear said:



This sounds like an off-ramp and not an escalation. And I'm ok with that.

82nd is deploying to Middle East. Hope these crazy *******s don't lead them into a kill zone.

All the Way, guys....

82nd is an airbourn division.

And as such are lacking in armour and heavy guns.

But they can deploy quickly for a specific target.


ok. Yeah, we got that.

Kharg Island will still be a kill box for airborne or amphibious. Airports/bridges are easy to defend, tough to take. Come closer, is usually not a good thing to hear your enemy say after they have had years...

This is going to be dirty work.
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The_barBEARian said:



If idiots think Lebanon can go into the ether. I'd submit we let Izzy join them. Give me Lebon every day. eff izzy and all this biblical BS. Let them go at it alone. If they get exterminated , oh well?
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FLBear5630 said:

KaiBear said:

FLBear5630 said:

ATL Bear said:

boognish_bear said:



This sounds like an off-ramp and not an escalation. And I'm ok with that.

82nd is deploying to Middle East. Hope these crazy *******s don't lead them into a kill zone.

All the Way, guys....

82nd is an airbourn division.

And as such are lacking in armour and heavy guns.

But they can deploy quickly for a specific target.


ok. Yeah, we got that.

Kharg Island will still be a kill box for airborne or amphibious. Airports/bridges are easy to defend, tough to take. Come closer, is usually not a good thing to hear your enemy say after they have had years...

This is going to be dirty work.


Everyone talks tough untill they run out of food and water for a month.

Bunker busters, napalm. and carpet bombing. will aid with this.

And I doubt Trump will order a ground assault any time soon.....if ever.
boognish_bear
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Oldbear83
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boognish_bear said:



Somebody hasn't learned much from the last month.

KaiBear
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boognish_bear said:




No surprise.

Wonder what the Saudis and Israelis tell Trump to do next.
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Porteroso
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I am not really a fan of going this far and then off ramping in any way where we give the Iranians money or drop sanctions, and let them keep their nuclear material.

Need to retrieve it or regime change for this war to not be a massive waste. Otherwise we will be back within the decade.
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Porteroso said:

I am not really a fan of going this far and then off ramping in any way where we give the Iranians money or drop sanctions, and let them keep their nuclear material.

Need to retrieve it or regime change for this war to not be a massive waste. Otherwise we will be back within the decade.

Spoiler alert: There will not be "regime change" in any traditional sense (I hope I am wrong though) unless the US puts boots on the ground for an indeterminate amount of time.
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KaiBear said:

FLBear5630 said:

KaiBear said:

FLBear5630 said:

ATL Bear said:

boognish_bear said:



This sounds like an off-ramp and not an escalation. And I'm ok with that.

82nd is deploying to Middle East. Hope these crazy *******s don't lead them into a kill zone.

All the Way, guys....

82nd is an airbourn division.

And as such are lacking in armour and heavy guns.

But they can deploy quickly for a specific target.


ok. Yeah, we got that.

Kharg Island will still be a kill box for airborne or amphibious. Airports/bridges are easy to defend, tough to take. Come closer, is usually not a good thing to hear your enemy say after they have had years...

This is going to be dirty work.


Everyone talks tough untill they run out of food and water for a month.

Bunker busters, napalm. and carpet bombing. will aid with this.

And I doubt Trump will order a ground assault any time soon.....if ever.



I hope you are right about sending them in. That is a rough haul. This is not Panama or Grenada. Iran has had decades to fortify.

Same pattern as those other jumps. Lots of planes from Hunter and Pope. Rangers first, 82 support. 12 sq miles is a lot of territory...

Time for Trump to show some diplomacy skills.
whiterock
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The_barBEARian said:



they are not attacking us.
they are not attacking our allies.
they are not supplying and training Hizballah, thereby destabilizing Lebanon.
they are not supplying and training any other terrorist groups.
they are not allied with Russia.
they are not allied with Iran.

One would think the isolationists would like a country that deserves to be ignored.
whiterock
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FLBear5630 said:

KaiBear said:

FLBear5630 said:

KaiBear said:

FLBear5630 said:

ATL Bear said:

boognish_bear said:



This sounds like an off-ramp and not an escalation. And I'm ok with that.

82nd is deploying to Middle East. Hope these crazy *******s don't lead them into a kill zone.

All the Way, guys....

82nd is an airbourn division.

And as such are lacking in armour and heavy guns.

But they can deploy quickly for a specific target.


ok. Yeah, we got that.

Kharg Island will still be a kill box for airborne or amphibious. Airports/bridges are easy to defend, tough to take. Come closer, is usually not a good thing to hear your enemy say after they have had years...

This is going to be dirty work.


Everyone talks tough untill they run out of food and water for a month.

Bunker busters, napalm. and carpet bombing. will aid with this.

And I doubt Trump will order a ground assault any time soon.....if ever.



I hope you are right about sending them in. That is a rough haul. This is not Panama or Grenada. Iran has had decades to fortify.

Same pattern as those other jumps. Lots of planes from Hunter and Pope. Rangers first, 82 support. 12 sq miles is a lot of territory...

Time for Trump to show some diplomacy skills.

he's shows great skills at diplomacy, and his "diplomacy via other means" is nothing short of spectacular.
FLBear5630
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whiterock said:

FLBear5630 said:

KaiBear said:

FLBear5630 said:

KaiBear said:

FLBear5630 said:

ATL Bear said:

boognish_bear said:



This sounds like an off-ramp and not an escalation. And I'm ok with that.

82nd is deploying to Middle East. Hope these crazy *******s don't lead them into a kill zone.

All the Way, guys....

82nd is an airbourn division.

And as such are lacking in armour and heavy guns.

But they can deploy quickly for a specific target.


ok. Yeah, we got that.

Kharg Island will still be a kill box for airborne or amphibious. Airports/bridges are easy to defend, tough to take. Come closer, is usually not a good thing to hear your enemy say after they have had years...

This is going to be dirty work.


Everyone talks tough untill they run out of food and water for a month.

Bunker busters, napalm. and carpet bombing. will aid with this.

And I doubt Trump will order a ground assault any time soon.....if ever.



I hope you are right about sending them in. That is a rough haul. This is not Panama or Grenada. Iran has had decades to fortify.

Same pattern as those other jumps. Lots of planes from Hunter and Pope. Rangers first, 82 support. 12 sq miles is a lot of territory...

Time for Trump to show some diplomacy skills.

he's shows great skills at diplomacy, and his "diplomacy via other means" is nothing short of spectacular.

Cult much?

Seriously, name one thing that has giving you pause? When he has done well, I have said it. You on the othe hand, I have rarely seen such a cheerleader, that is not making money on what they are cheering. Since this is a small time message board, I give the benefit of the doubt to all of us. This is not the forum to do anything but discuss.

Since his election, you honestly believe he has been spectacular. This is the America you want...

Realitybites
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Oldbear83 said:

boognish_bear said:



Somebody hasn't learned much from the last month.




Are you referring to Trump, or the Iranians?
Realitybites
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KaiBear said:

boognish_bear said:




No surprise.

Wonder what the Saudis and Israelis tell Trump to do next.


Not really sure just how much power the Saudis can bring to bear.

Their entire military is only about 3x the size of the Texas National Guard. Only about 40% of their fighter aircraft are combat capable.

The only Saudi pilots I saw fly weren't interested in landing.
KaiBear
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Realitybites said:

KaiBear said:

boognish_bear said:




No surprise.

Wonder what the Saudis and Israelis tell Trump to do next.


Only about 30% of their fighter aircraft are combat capable.


The Saudis are 2nd only to Israel in the amount of influence they have in DC……involving affairs in the Middle East. Due to their oil reserves and wealth.

Have always read the Saudis have a well trained and equipped Air Force. Where have you read it is only 30% combat effective ?
FLBear5630
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Realitybites said:

KaiBear said:

boognish_bear said:




No surprise.

Wonder what the Saudis and Israelis tell Trump to do next.


Not really sure just how much power the Saudis can bring to bear.

Their entire military is only about 3x the size of the Texas National Guard. Only about 30% of their fighter aircraft are combat capable.

The only Saudi pilots I saw fly weren't interested in landing.

I don't think the two are really that far off. They are well trained and the planes they had were well equipped, the numbers were not high. The ones I knew were flying more to keep wings, but were in administrative capacity. They just didn't have the numbers.

Well educated! The ones I knew at Dharan Air Base were all Cambridge, Oxford, Trinity undergrad and US masters. Funny, Oxford and Oklahoma State was a strange mix... Good guys, used to work out with them when I got to the Air Base. Locker room I had to use was marked "Infidels".
Realitybites
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Corrected, 40%.

That's the number that could take to the air for combat *today*.
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Danielsjackson114
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Did JR write that?
Oldbear83
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Fascinating to see a TDS devotee claim someone else is a cultist
 
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