President Trump announces military strikes on Iran: Operation Epic Fury

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9:05a, 4/5/26

Praising Allah on Easter
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In reply to BylrFan • 9:07a, 4/5/26
BylrFan said:

Praising Allah on Easter

Is he nuts?
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In reply to FLBear5630 • 9:14a, 4/5/26
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whiterock said:
boognish_bear said:

the only failure in his post is himself. He's already been removed from the equation, so no risk of doubling down at all.

Many agree with him.

yeah....Tucker, Candace, et al.....
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In reply to whiterock • 9:26a, 4/5/26
whiterock said:
FLBear5630 said:
whiterock said:
boognish_bear said:

the only failure in his post is himself. He's already been removed from the equation, so no risk of doubling down at all.

Many agree with him.

yeah....Tucker, Candace, et al.....

You keep throwing groups together. You know, people can agree on some things and disagree on others. You love to categorize and label people, it is a tactic which I get. I understand your training.

But, people's opinions are more like Venn Diagrams than anything else. We actually agree on some things, does that make you anti-Trump?
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In reply to KaiBear • 9:29a, 4/5/26
KaiBear said:
Frank Galvin said:
KaiBear said:


Some of you folks are beyond clueless. We are in a WAR....not a video game.

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That is not possible. Only Congress can declare war. We are in an excursion.


Korea
Vietnam
Iraq ( twice )
Bosnia

All say otherwise

But no doubt your buddies in Highland Park thought your post was cute.


Quasi War under John Adams (2, not 4)
Barbary Wars under Jefferson and Madison
Civil War
Indian Wars
Many military adventures in Latin America throughout the 20th century (literally dozens)

The U.S. has had only five wars declared by congress.
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In reply to whiterock • 9:30a, 4/5/26
whiterock said:
FLBear5630 said:
whiterock said:
boognish_bear said:

the only failure in his post is himself. He's already been removed from the equation, so no risk of doubling down at all.

Many agree with him.

yeah....Tucker, Candace, et al.....

you good with that loverly Easter Tweet from Orange Jesus?.....or Allah? simple question. you good with that tweet from our POTUS? yes or no is good
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In reply to J.R. • 9:34a, 4/5/26
J.R. said:
whiterock said:
FLBear5630 said:
whiterock said:
boognish_bear said:

the only failure in his post is himself. He's already been removed from the equation, so no risk of doubling down at all.

Many agree with him.

yeah....Tucker, Candace, et al.....

you good with that loverly Easter Tweet from Orange Jesus?.....or Allah? simple question. you good with that tweet from our POTUS? yes or no is good

Thank you!

It is not about his policies, it is about how he does it and how he represents our Nation.
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In reply to FLBear5630 • 9:37a, 4/5/26
FLBear5630 said:
J.R. said:
whiterock said:
FLBear5630 said:
whiterock said:
boognish_bear said:

the only failure in his post is himself. He's already been removed from the equation, so no risk of doubling down at all.

Many agree with him.

yeah....Tucker, Candace, et al.....

you good with that loverly Easter Tweet from Orange Jesus?.....or Allah? simple question. you good with that tweet from our POTUS? yes or no is good

Thank you!

It is not about his policies, it is about how he does it and how he represents our Nation.

Many, that twat was beyond the pale and showed his lack of integrity and intelligence if that is what he has. He is an Embarrassment.
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In reply to Porteroso • 9:42a, 4/5/26
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Doc Holliday said:


Trump is so dumb. We are ensuring the next generation of terrorists truly hates America.

I cannot believe the cheerleaders here for mass murder and destruction.

How idiotic!
Has there ever been a generation of terrorists that did not hate America???
If you are not cheering on the US then you are a cheerleader for the Iranian regime, terrorists who have been bass murdering people for 47 years. In January of this year they slaughtered up to 45k of their own people for peacefully protesting against their tyranny.

People on the Left who try to take the moral high ground always end up looking like fools.
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In reply to Sam Lowry • 9:44a, 4/5/26
Sam Lowry said:
Porteroso said:
Doc Holliday said:


Trump is so dumb. We are ensuring the next generation of terrorists truly hates America.

I cannot believe the cheerleaders here for mass murder and destruction.

Free Afghanistan, Free Iraq, Free Libya, Free Ukraine, Free Syria (and empower Al Qaeda), Free Venezuela, Free Cuba, Free Iran...it was always BS.

The people of Venezuela, Iran & Cuba disagree with you. They want freedom and are grateful for everything Trump does to help them achieve it.
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In reply to 303Bear • 9:48a, 4/5/26
If those accusations come from rabid antisemites, like some on these boards, then they are not credible at all.
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9:50a, 4/5/26
Missing pilot has been found:

https://notthebee.com/article/we-got-him-come-read-about-the-downed-f-15-pilot-rescued-from-enemy-territory

My favorite part of this story:

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In reply to FLBear5630 • 10:23a, 4/5/26
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BylrFan said:

Praising Allah on Easter

Is he nuts?

Of course he is nuts. He doesn't have Alzheimer's, he has narcissism and old man syndrome combined.
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In reply to historian • 10:50a, 4/5/26
historian said:
Sam Lowry said:
Porteroso said:
Doc Holliday said:


Trump is so dumb. We are ensuring the next generation of terrorists truly hates America.

I cannot believe the cheerleaders here for mass murder and destruction.

Free Afghanistan, Free Iraq, Free Libya, Free Ukraine, Free Syria (and empower Al Qaeda), Free Venezuela, Free Cuba, Free Iran...it was always BS.

The people of Venezuela, Iran & Cuba disagree with you. They want freedom and are grateful for everything Trump does to help them achieve it.

Short of blowing them up...
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In reply to FLBear5630 • 11:42a, 4/5/26
FLBear5630 said:
BylrFan said:

Praising Allah on Easter

Is he nuts?


Dr Strangelove
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In reply to whiterock • 11:45a, 4/5/26
whiterock said:
FLBear5630 said:
whiterock said:
boognish_bear said:

the only failure in his post is himself. He's already been removed from the equation, so no risk of doubling down at all.

Many agree with him.

yeah....Tucker, Candace, et al.....


I wish those podcasters would run for office to demonstrate the breadth of their appeal
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In reply to 303Bear • 11:46a, 4/5/26
" So when is this internal uprising of disaffected and oppressed Iranian going to rise up and take back the country?"

To coin a phrase. that's not how this works.

The hardliners who ran Iran since 1979 made sure there would be no one to oppose them domestically. Other Muslim parties were purged, and secular leaders were expelled or purged wherever found. Ironically similar to Communists, the Islamic Republican Party itself (which brought the Ayatollah into Iran) was destroyed in 1987 to eliminate any possible rival to the Ayatollah.

Article 110 of Iran's constitution gives the Supreme Leader power to name the Guardian Council, who in turn name the Assembly of Experts, who in turn name the new Supreme Leader when the former dies. Iran does not have elections for the Supreme Leader.

Over the years, student groups originally founded to show devotion to theocracy have evolved to dissident groups demanding power to some degree. The Republican Guard has been unable to suppress them completely, and these groups show up from time to time, such as the Arab Spring in 2009, 2011, and of course now.

A number of parties are active in Iran now, including the National Front, the Constitutionalist Party, the Tudeh Party, People's Mujahedin Organization of Iran (MEK), Iranian People's Fedai Guerrillas (IPFG), Democratic Party of Iranian Kurdistan, and the Qashqai Freedom Path Party(QAYI).

None of these groups is particularly pro-US, but a number of them have been receiving US aid because they help provide intelligence information on Iran conditions, and because it serves the US interest for the Ayatollahs to have internal dissent.

The most likely 'good' outcome in Iran for the near future would likely include restoration of elections, and multiple political parties in Iran, even those which publicly oppose the US, because it would weaken unity of action in Iran. The US has made quiet deals in the past with regimes which disavowed supporting US goals, while de facto doing so.
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In reply to historian • 11:47a, 4/5/26
historian said:
Porteroso said:
Doc Holliday said:


Trump is so dumb. We are ensuring the next generation of terrorists truly hates America.

I cannot believe the cheerleaders here for mass murder and destruction.

How idiotic!
Has there ever been a generation of terrorists that did not hate America???
If you are not cheering on the US then you are a cheerleader for the Iranian regime, terrorists who have been bass murdering people for 47 years. In January of this year they slaughtered up to 45k of their own people for peacefully protesting against their tyranny.

People on the Left who try to take the moral high ground always end up looking like fools.

You ok with this tweet? yes or no will suffice.
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12:07p, 4/5/26
the second rule of fight club:

we go to arby's afterwards.

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In reply to historian • 12:19p, 4/5/26
historian said:
Missing pilot has been found:

https://notthebee.com/article/we-got-him-come-read-about-the-downed-f-15-pilot-rescued-from-enemy-territory

My favorite part of this story:


God bless the USAF PJs (Pararescue men), USN SEAL Team 6 and 1st SFOD - DELTA - they are ELITE and the absolute BEST of the BEST. I had the honor of serving with both Maroon (PJs) and Red (Combat Controllers) Berets in the USAF - absolute badasses. Had both SEAL Team 2 and SEAL Team 10 conduct joint training with them in the UK.

Everybody so far has been appreciative of this brave mission. Anybody crapping on this rescue mission should have their citizenship revoked and be deported.
A proud Baylor alum and US Air Force Veteran.
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In reply to Oldbear83 • 12:23p, 4/5/26
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" So when is this internal uprising of disaffected and oppressed Iranian going to rise up and take back the country?"

To coin a phrase. that's not how this works.

The hardliners who ran Iran since 1979 made sure there would be no one to oppose them domestically. Other Muslim parties were purged, and secular leaders were expelled or purged wherever found. Ironically similar to Communists, the Islamic Republican Party itself (which brought the Ayatollah into Iran) was destroyed in 1987 to eliminate any possible rival to the Ayatollah.

Article 110 of Iran's constitution gives the Supreme Leader power to name the Guardian Council, who in turn name the Assembly of Experts, who in turn name the new Supreme Leader when the former dies. Iran does not have elections for the Supreme Leader.

Over the years, student groups originally founded to show devotion to theocracy have evolved to dissident groups demanding power to some degree. The Republican Guard has been unable to suppress them completely, and these groups show up from time to time, such as the Arab Spring in 2009, 2011, and of course now.

A number of parties are active in Iran now, including the National Front, the Constitutionalist Party, the Tudeh Party, People's Mujahedin Organization of Iran (MEK), Iranian People's Fedai Guerrillas (IPFG), Democratic Party of Iranian Kurdistan, and the Qashqai Freedom Path Party(QAYI).

None of these groups is particularly pro-US, but a number of them have been receiving US aid because they help provide intelligence information on Iran conditions, and because it serves the US interest for the Ayatollahs to have internal dissent.

The most likely 'good' outcome in Iran for the near future would likely include restoration of elections, and multiple political parties in Iran, even those which publicly oppose the US, because it would weaken unity of action in Iran. The US has made quiet deals in the past with regimes which disavowed supporting US goals, while de facto doing so.


If overthrow and change of regime are the goal (as I have heard from a number of sources, including this board), why are you talking about the succession mechanisms in the current Iranian constitution? This succession has happened several times since we began bombing and the regime, as it were, is still very much in power.

We were told in January that there were millions in the streets ready to remove the Islamist government, and if we just would strike the top and remove the leaders, there could be another revolution. We have been doing that for over a month now and there has been no movement toward replacement of the governmental system or an overthrow. So was January exaggerated, or is there really not an organized opposition beyond protesting and the best we can hope for is a power vacuum where the most brutal will end up being the replacement?

If the alternate groups are still not pro-America (and we know they aren't pro-Israel), then what are we doing at all that we could not have accomplished by further strikes on Iran's nuclear facilities? Why do we need to bomb them "back to the Stone Age"? If we replace bad with slightly less bad, what did we actually accomplish? Especially if there is the chance to destabilize the religion and have an even more hardline, anti-west group rise up in its place (as ISIS did for a time in parts of Iraq and Syria)? How does the US benefit from that long term? Israel is using this as an opportunity to push into Hezbollah controlled areas to secure their own territory and increase land area (though the campaign seems to be going worse than they anticipated so far), so if we go boots on the ground, it looks like we will go alone.

I am and will remain completely opposed to that.
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In reply to historian • 12:30p, 4/5/26
historian said:
Missing pilot has been found:

https://notthebee.com/article/we-got-him-come-read-about-the-downed-f-15-pilot-rescued-from-enemy-territory

My favorite part of this story:



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In reply to BylrFan • 12:37p, 4/5/26
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Praising Allah on Easter

Almost unbelievable. Several friends losing their minds over this. Maybe he thought Easter is all about Bad Bunny.
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In reply to historian • 12:40p, 4/5/26
historian said:
Porteroso said:
Doc Holliday said:


Trump is so dumb. We are ensuring the next generation of terrorists truly hates America.

I cannot believe the cheerleaders here for mass murder and destruction.

How idiotic!
Has there ever been a generation of terrorists that did not hate America???
If you are not cheering on the US then you are a cheerleader for the Iranian regime, terrorists who have been bass murdering people for 47 years. In January of this year they slaughtered up to 45k of their own people for peacefully protesting against their tyranny.

People on the Left who try to take the moral high ground always end up looking like fools.

To answer the question, yes there have been many generation of Iranians that didn't hate America, and were not terrorists. With each new generation of Middle Easterners, we renew their hatred of America since the 70s. It doesn't have to be that way.

I think we are plenty willing to sacrifice Americans simply because it keeps the war machine going. Simple as that.

What is idiotic is your post which assumes there will always be terrorists in the Middle East that want to kill Americans.
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In reply to boognish_bear • 12:47p, 4/5/26
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Yes, we have to have movement in stocks to make money... Worst situation, stagnation. He is churning the market.
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boognish_bear said:

Yes, we have to have movement in stocks to make money... Worst situation, stagnation. He is churning the market.

Post hoc ergo propter hoc

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