Danielsjackson114 said:
The resident IRGC cheerleaders want it it to be authentic so badly
whiterock said:canoso said:Porteroso said:
Iran posted a video of their commandos boarding and seizing 2 cargo ships. We are being lied to. Not in control of this situation at all. Hadn't seen this confirmed.Iran 🇮🇷 release video moment a container ship was seized in the Strait of Hormuz pic.twitter.com/78XLqH5V2I
— . (@LBGamestips) April 22, 2026
Can't help but wonder who, and from what platform, shot the first part of the video.
iran lives on deceit and other assorted fakery. This video is a prime example.
PT Barnum lives on. There's a sucker born every minute.
LOL mighty Iran seized an idle container ship containing no containers on a dead calm sea?
Porter couldn't spell "AI" if you spotted her the A and the I
Danielsjackson114 said:
The never Trumpers want that image to be authentic so badly
FLBear5630 said:
So, you do? What was June about? You really think the intel was so off 6 months ago after we obliterated their facility?
So, which is it?
There is no bomb (2 weeks, really?) or we didn't accomplish anything in June? It can't be both...
Finally, if there is uranium, where is it? Why hasn't it been produced, no matter what deal Donald gives them? You really think the same Nation that under Obama that agreed for 1.6 B, turned down 20B? Why? Come on think...
BREAKING: President Trump tells FOX News’ @aishahhasnie that he has canceled Jared Kushner and Steve Witkoff’s planned trip to Pakistan for peace talks with Iran.
— Fox News (@FoxNews) April 25, 2026
President Trump telling FOX News exclusively, “We have all the cards. They can call us anytime they want.” pic.twitter.com/40b4x8Vms9
NBC confirms for the first time what many of us already suspected or knew: the Iranian Air Force bombed US bases in the opening phase of the war. pic.twitter.com/Uy9hCatsqC
— Amerikanets 📉 (@ripplebrain) April 25, 2026
President Trump: “You have to remember, we have 45,000 troops in Japan, 45,000 in South Korea, and 50,000 in Germany.”
— Bitcoin Teddy (@Bitcoin_Teddy) April 25, 2026
We defend all these countries, and then I ask them: “Do you have any minesweepers?”
They say, “Well, would it be possible for us not to get involved?” pic.twitter.com/tJfnFT1ziB
D. C. Bear said:FLBear5630 said:Danielsjackson114 said:
The resident IRGC cheerleaders want it it to be authentic so badly
You really believe this is about Iran having a nuclear weapon? If so, are we going into North Korea? Did we go into Pakistan?
We obliterated their nuclear capability in the greatest military bombing ever, the Guiness Book is about to add it to the record books.
The highlighted statement is absurd.
For the first time in history, there are 60+ large crude oil tankers bound for the US.
— The Kobeissi Letter (@KobeissiLetter) April 25, 2026
US crude exports are up by +2.5 million barrels per day since the Iran War began.
US big oil will see its most profitable year on record in 2026. pic.twitter.com/zNCgeO3upI
FLBear5630 said:
N Korea has nukes. That is the qualifying metric for the decision. N Korea has also supported terrorism and threatened an ally.
How is it different? Are you saying the US military can't beat N Korea?
FLBear5630 said:
You did not answer one question.
Were they 2 weeks from a bomb?
Where is the 60% material?
Why wouldn't they accept a 20B deal when they accepted a 1B deal?
If they are beaten and have no armed forces, why the blockade outside of the Straits?
No military, why not occupy. There can be no resistance. right, we won.
By the way, if you need reference Iraq was a beaten Army. We took thousands of surrenders. They agreed to our terms, they didnt make demands. Iran is not beaten.
FLBear5630 said:
Geez, they are questions bothering me so...
Not every discussion or question or dialogue HAS to be a zero sum game. Whiterock will give me a lecture, right off the CIA website for placating the masses.
But, the questions are not answered. Is Iran acting like a beaten Nation? All they had to do was produce the Uranium and get 20B and al the Uranium they want for civil purposes from us, yet they choose to fight????
J.R. said:FLBear5630 said:
Geez, they are questions bothering me so...
Not every discussion or question or dialogue HAS to be a zero sum game. Whiterock will give me a lecture, right off the CIA website for placating the masses.
But, the questions are not answered. Is Iran acting like a beaten Nation? All they had to do was produce the Uranium and get 20B and al the Uranium they want for civil purposes from us, yet they choose to fight????
If you are getting grief from WR and Old83, you must have had those pesky facts at your disposal. Those 2 are sumpin alse. Maga blind!
Oldbear83 said:J.R. said:FLBear5630 said:
Geez, they are questions bothering me so...
Not every discussion or question or dialogue HAS to be a zero sum game. Whiterock will give me a lecture, right off the CIA website for placating the masses.
But, the questions are not answered. Is Iran acting like a beaten Nation? All they had to do was produce the Uranium and get 20B and al the Uranium they want for civil purposes from us, yet they choose to fight????
If you are getting grief from WR and Old83, you must have had those pesky facts at your disposal. Those 2 are sumpin alse. Maga blind!
Taking posting advice from J.R. is like taking financial advice from homeless people.
FLBear5630 said:
Doesn't make him wrong. I would think someone in the petro fuel industry would know the industry.
Oldbear83 said:FLBear5630 said:
Doesn't make him wrong. I would think someone in the petro fuel industry would know the industry.
We have only his assertion on a lot of things, and JR is anything but objective on these topics.
EatMoreSalmon said:Oldbear83 said:FLBear5630 said:
Doesn't make him wrong. I would think someone in the petro fuel industry would know the industry.
We have only his assertion on a lot of things, and JR is anything but objective on these topics.
JR is like having our very own Trump style personality without the work ethic or sense of humor!
J.R. said:EatMoreSalmon said:Oldbear83 said:FLBear5630 said:
Doesn't make him wrong. I would think someone in the petro fuel industry would know the industry.
We have only his assertion on a lot of things, and JR is anything but objective on these topics.
JR is like having our very own Trump style personality without the work ethic or sense of humor!
good. my angry trump bit is working on you Cheeto people. yeah, no work ethic. started and sold 3 companies. Suite exec of a $25B public. company. Starting company 4. You? don't think work ethic is an issue. You know nothing about me, nothing other than my Trump bit. That ends when he's done. As, FLA said, Petrochemicals is my main business, so I kinda think I know what I'm talking about.
EatMoreSalmon said:J.R. said:EatMoreSalmon said:Oldbear83 said:FLBear5630 said:
Doesn't make him wrong. I would think someone in the petro fuel industry would know the industry.
We have only his assertion on a lot of things, and JR is anything but objective on these topics.
JR is like having our very own Trump style personality without the work ethic or sense of humor!
good. my angry trump bit is working on you Cheeto people. yeah, no work ethic. started and sold 3 companies. Suite exec of a $25B public. company. Starting company 4. You? don't think work ethic is an issue. You know nothing about me, nothing other than my Trump bit. That ends when he's done. As, FLA said, Petrochemicals is my main business, so I kinda think I know what I'm talking about.
Your schtick makes you quite hard to believe. Some on here might compare you to Trump in that respect as well. You think he's a liar by your own statements. Many may think the same of you.
FLBear5630 said:
You did not answer one question.
Were they 2 weeks from a bomb?
Yes. No serious analyst would contest that fact.
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c1mg7kx2d45o
Where is the 60% material?
a couple hundred feet beneath bomb cratered bunkers.
Why wouldn't they accept a 20B deal when they accepted a 1B deal?
Because they are not going to give up their enriched uranium OR their enrichment program.
If they are beaten and have no armed forces, why the blockade outside of the Straits?
To force capitulation of the regime.
No military, why not occupy. There can be no resistance. right, we won.
No need to. We have militarily defeated them. We own the skies and seas around them.
We don't win until the Iranian government meets our demands to hand over the 60% uranium
By the way, if you need reference Iraq was a beaten Army. We took thousands of surrenders. They agreed to our terms, they didnt make demands. Iran is not beaten.
Agreed. That's why we are blockading them.
The solar panels destroyed by Israel's army are used to provide the Lebanese town of Debl with electricity, as well as supply power to its water station.
— Sky News (@SkyNews) April 26, 2026
The IDF says the actions seen in the video do not align with their values.
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whiterock said:FLBear5630 said:
You did not answer one question.
Were they 2 weeks from a bomb?
Yes. No serious analyst would contest that fact.
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c1mg7kx2d45o
Where is the 60% material?
a couple hundred feet beneath bomb cratered bunkers.
Why wouldn't they accept a 20B deal when they accepted a 1B deal?
Because they are not going to give up their enriched uranium OR their enrichment program.
If they are beaten and have no armed forces, why the blockade outside of the Straits?
To force capitulation of the regime.
No military, why not occupy. There can be no resistance. right, we won.
No need to. We have militarily defeated them. We own the skies and seas around them.
We don't win until the Iranian government meets our demands to hand over the 60% uranium
By the way, if you need reference Iraq was a beaten Army. We took thousands of surrenders. They agreed to our terms, they didnt make demands. Iran is not beaten.
Agreed. That's why we are blockading them.
"Regime Change" is a dirty word.
That's probably what it's going to take to get this thing done.
We're going to starve the whole damned country into submission. The populace is going to riot. Are the going to riot against the USA? Or are they going to riot for their government to provide them with bread & water? (history suggest the latter is exponentially more likely). The current government, or some successor of it, has no way out of their trap unless they meet our demands.
The mosaic defense strategy helps us. It divides up the regime into autonomous units. Will be much, much harder for a regime so structured to maintain unity. The structure itself opens doors for individual commanders to chart their own course. And eventually, one of them will take the only obvious path out of their misery - meet US demands (and become the new leader of the country).
Somewhere down deep within the Artesh and/or IRGC, there is a charismatic Colonel who is more interested in being a world leader than a minion in a revolutionary cult.
FLBear5630 said:
They were 2 weeks? How did the "serious analysist" miss SO widely in June? Are these the same sources? For someone so skeptical of a 2% margin on error in a National Election, you seem to give these "serious analysist" a lot of margin of error.
You are quite poorly informed here. 60% enriched uranium is just one more "enrichment cycle" away from weapons grade. The IAEA has documented that - the existence of several hundred kgs of 60% enriched uranium as well as the processing ability to continue.
Not to mention your source is the BBC? I thought they were a liberal, anti-American source, if Sam used them you would tear it apart.
LOL using a neverTrumper-friendly source of IAEA data/analysis enhances my argument, not yours.
Finally, in the heat of the moment this was Gabbard's assessment,
Tulsi Gabbard Says Iran Not Believed to be Building a Nuclear Weapon - Newsweek
Here's FOX, the bastion of Liberal thought...
Gabbard said Iran was not building nukes months before Israel strikes | Fox News
Then Donald got involved...
After Trump's 2nd rebuke, Tulsi Gabbard says Iran could build bomb soon | World News - Business Standard
(Notice more gray streaks in Tulsi's hair...)
Tulsi Gabbard makes U-turn, backtracks on Iran nukes, now claims regime could build bomb in a matter of weeks
So, if I call BS you can see why I would be skeptical. The most accurate info comes out at the beginning, we are now seeing a crafted message. Same occurred with Petey in the Caribbean sea.
No BS on my part. Just reading comprehension problems on your part. "not building" does not mean "unable to build." It means that Iran was building up its stockpiles of enriched uranium up the the final step, enough to make 10-12 nuclear weapons, but had not yet made the policy decision to build a bomb. Which if made would be followed by another policy decision to test the bomb (which would be detected, thereby making their program overt). And if they did test a bomb, there would have to be additional policy decisions to build and deploy nuclear weapons for use. They could complete the enrichment in a couple of weeks. Building a weapon would take another a couple of weeks. They would then be able to project a potential nuclear threat throughout the entirety of the Middle East and Nato (sans US & Canada). If they chose to test, that threat would be credible. If you think allies have alligator arms now, how short & stiff you think they'd be if Iran had the ability to lob a nuke into their country?
How far down the road to nuclear weapons would YOU let them go?
(Answer: you'd deny there is any problem at all until they conducted their first nuclear test, then blame Israel for causing the problem.)
You are a Company man, you have made that VERY clear. There is nothing Trump could do that would draw a rebuke from you. I have given him credit on what he has done well, the border for one. I agreed with Argentina bail-out. Among others. You can't expect to have credibility with your record on Trump. So, sorry if I don't agree with your novel Psyop answers.
LOL I defend good policy decisions. You make up stuff out of whole cloth to criticize them. And somehow I'm the problem.
