Good cop, bad cop.
— DD Geopolitics (@DD_Geopolitics) June 14, 2026
Trump says "This morning's attack on Beirut should not have happened." But then goes on to rationalize the attack anyway. pic.twitter.com/DmXfhES0zJ
President Trump announces military strikes on Iran: Operation Epic Fury
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So tired of Joe Kent
He's like Massie, got booted out of the spotlight, and now trying to stay relevant
He's like Massie, got booted out of the spotlight, and now trying to stay relevant
boognish_bear said:Trump is being presented with a binary choice:
— Joe Kent (@joekent16jan19) June 14, 2026
cut a deal or escalate the war.
At this point, the reality we are in based on the conditions we have allowed means that either way, Trump will be criticized for cutting a worse deal than Obama’s or will be forced further into a… https://t.co/ksYKyBeFlM
Trump is being presented with a binary choice:
cut a deal or escalate the war.
At this point, the reality we are in based on the conditions we have allowed means that either way, Trump will be criticized for cutting a worse deal than Obama's or will be forced further into a war worse than Bush's.
But we have a third option, no deal required: just declare victory and walk away.
Until Israel is restrained, they will drag us back into war just like they did after Operation Midnight Hammer. Unless we reset the conditions on our terms, we will ultimately suffer an endless cycle of conflict at the behest of Israel.
Trump should reject the Obama/Bush binary and handle this his waywalk away, pull our troops out, cut aid to Israel, say he won, & quietly deal with the Iranians moving forward.
This way, Iran loses its incentive to choke the SOH, freeing up oil commerce & avoiding an escalation into a war no one wants and which we can't afford.
Persia is an ancient and formidable geographic realitywe must deal with them as such.
He's right.
Simple facts:
(1) We can't beat Iran solely with an Air War.
(2) We can't beat a country 6x the size of Iraq with 4x the population with the geography of Afghanistan with our army (which is half the size of the one that invaded Iraq).
That's reality.
Sunday update:
- White House still suggesting an electronic MoU deal to be signed with Iran on Sunday, which leaves nuclear negotiations to further date, only with commitment that Iran not pursue a nuke.
- Trump: new strikes on Beirut's southern suburbs "should not have happened" and given it was on "a special day when we are so close to a Peace Deal with Iran.
- "A draft of the US-Iran memorandum of understanding included diluting highly enriched uranium within Iran & the release of $25b of Iran's frozen assets" (Reuters).
- Iranian statements characteristically cautious: Fars News Agency reported earlier that Iran has not made a final call on a potential MOU with the U.S. Iranian authorities are still reviewing the political, legal, and technical details.
Danielsjackson114 said:
So tired of Joe Kent
He's like Massie, got booted out of the spotlight, and now trying to stay relevant
If you are tired of Joe Kent, you are welcome to move to Israel!
Realitybites said:boognish_bear said:Trump is being presented with a binary choice:
— Joe Kent (@joekent16jan19) June 14, 2026
cut a deal or escalate the war.
At this point, the reality we are in based on the conditions we have allowed means that either way, Trump will be criticized for cutting a worse deal than Obama’s or will be forced further into a… https://t.co/ksYKyBeFlM
Trump is being presented with a binary choice:
cut a deal or escalate the war.
At this point, the reality we are in based on the conditions we have allowed means that either way, Trump will be criticized for cutting a worse deal than Obama's or will be forced further into a war worse than Bush's.
But we have a third option, no deal required: just declare victory and walk away.
Until Israel is restrained, they will drag us back into war just like they did after Operation Midnight Hammer. Unless we reset the conditions on our terms, we will ultimately suffer an endless cycle of conflict at the behest of Israel.
Trump should reject the Obama/Bush binary and handle this his waywalk away, pull our troops out, cut aid to Israel, say he won, & quietly deal with the Iranians moving forward.
This way, Iran loses its incentive to choke the SOH, freeing up oil commerce & avoiding an escalation into a war no one wants and which we can't afford.
Persia is an ancient and formidable geographic realitywe must deal with them as such.
He's right.
Simple facts:
(1) We can't beat Iran solely with an Air War.
(2) We can't beat a country 6x the size of Iraq with 4x the population with the geography of Afghanistan with our army (which is half the size of the one that invaded Iraq).
That's reality.
Sunday update:
- White House still suggesting an electronic MoU deal to be signed with Iran on Sunday, which leaves nuclear negotiations to further date, only with commitment that Iran not pursue a nuke.
- Trump: new strikes on Beirut's southern suburbs "should not have happened" and given it was on "a special day when we are so close to a Peace Deal with Iran.
- "A draft of the US-Iran memorandum of understanding included diluting highly enriched uranium within Iran & the release of $25b of Iran's frozen assets" (Reuters).
- Iranian statements characteristically cautious: Fars News Agency reported earlier that Iran has not made a final call on a potential MOU with the U.S. Iranian authorities are still reviewing the political, legal, and technical details.
I'm skeptical that anything gets signed today. Hope I am wrong, this conflict needs to end and is a net neutral at best from here on as far as the Inited States is concerned.
I suspect any announcement that the MOU is dead will not come until late Tuesday or Wednesday after SpaceX options go live.
He's a Thomas Massie 2.0
Always shouting about something
Always shouting about something
Danielsjackson114 said:
Almost 5 decades of aggression doesnt warrant a reset of some kind? Really?
Mitch bleeds blue still living in his liberal DEI fantasy world where Biden is king forever
Aggression by who?
We attacked Iran. Period. Our intelligence (American) said they posed no threat.
We overthrew their democratically elected government. Installed the Shaw. At what point do we have some accountability?
Gotta love an armchair military strategist as yourself
You can't argue your way out of the fact that you are cheering against the United States.
That which does not kill me, will try again and get nastier
LeftLeftMitch: " This isn't 1942. We were right in 1942. This is 2026"
So you support Iran's mullahs.
Noted.
So you support Iran's mullahs.
Noted.
That which does not kill me, will try again and get nastier
It's hard reasoning with a liberal nut job
Oldbear83 said:
LeftLeftMitch: " This isn't 1942. We were right in 1942. This is 2026"
So you support Iran's mullahs.
Noted.
Mullahs? No. Our kids in the military? Yes.
Mullahs and I have an agreement. I don't **** with them. They don't **** with me.
My favorite Mullah quote is "Don't start none. Won't be none!"
Mitch Blood Green said:Oldbear83 said:
LeftLeftMitch: " This isn't 1942. We were right in 1942. This is 2026"
So you support Iran's mullahs.
Noted.
Mullahs? No. Our kids in the military? Yes.
Mullahs and I have an agreement. I don't **** with them. They don't **** with me.
My favorite Mullah quote is "Don't start none. Won't be none!"
Mullahs never said that. Not in 1979, and not now.
But they have been '****ing' with the US since 1979.
Some of you just ignore that part.
That which does not kill me, will try again and get nastier
Oldbear83 said:Mitch Blood Green said:Oldbear83 said:
LeftLeftMitch: " This isn't 1942. We were right in 1942. This is 2026"
So you support Iran's mullahs.
Noted.
Mullahs? No. Our kids in the military? Yes.
Mullahs and I have an agreement. I don't **** with them. They don't **** with me.
My favorite Mullah quote is "Don't start none. Won't be none!"
Mullahs never said that. Not in 1979, and not now.
But they have been '****ing' with the US since 1979.
Some of you just ignore that part.
You can not support a country while also not starting a war with them... a very esoteric concept for the Boomer mind.
The_barBEARian said:Oldbear83 said:Mitch Blood Green said:Oldbear83 said:
LeftLeftMitch: " This isn't 1942. We were right in 1942. This is 2026"
So you support Iran's mullahs.
Noted.
Mullahs? No. Our kids in the military? Yes.
Mullahs and I have an agreement. I don't **** with them. They don't **** with me.
My favorite Mullah quote is "Don't start none. Won't be none!"
Mullahs never said that. Not in 1979, and not now.
But they have been '****ing' with the US since 1979.
Some of you just ignore that part.
You can not support a country while also not starting a war with them... a very esoteric concept for the Boomer mind.
Just your excuse to spit on the flag, and the men who serve it.
That which does not kill me, will try again and get nastier
Oldbear83 said:Mitch Blood Green said:Oldbear83 said:
LeftLeftMitch: " This isn't 1942. We were right in 1942. This is 2026"
So you support Iran's mullahs.
Noted.
Mullahs? No. Our kids in the military? Yes.
Mullahs and I have an agreement. I don't **** with them. They don't **** with me.
My favorite Mullah quote is "Don't start none. Won't be none!"
Mullahs never said that. Not in 1979, and not now.
But they have been '****ing' with the US since 1979.
Some of you just ignore that part.
Mullah John for sure said that.
Mitch Blood Green said:Oldbear83 said:Mitch Blood Green said:Oldbear83 said:
LeftLeftMitch: " This isn't 1942. We were right in 1942. This is 2026"
So you support Iran's mullahs.
Noted.
Mullahs? No. Our kids in the military? Yes.
Mullahs and I have an agreement. I don't **** with them. They don't **** with me.
My favorite Mullah quote is "Don't start none. Won't be none!"
Mullahs never said that. Not in 1979, and not now.
But they have been '****ing' with the US since 1979.
Some of you just ignore that part.
Mullah John for sure said that.
Not even a bad joke, that.
That which does not kill me, will try again and get nastier
Oldbear83 said:The_barBEARian said:Oldbear83 said:Mitch Blood Green said:Oldbear83 said:
LeftLeftMitch: " This isn't 1942. We were right in 1942. This is 2026"
So you support Iran's mullahs.
Noted.
Mullahs? No. Our kids in the military? Yes.
Mullahs and I have an agreement. I don't **** with them. They don't **** with me.
My favorite Mullah quote is "Don't start none. Won't be none!"
Mullahs never said that. Not in 1979, and not now.
But they have been '****ing' with the US since 1979.
Some of you just ignore that part.
You can not support a country while also not starting a war with them... a very esoteric concept for the Boomer mind.
Just your excuse to spit on the flag, and the men who serve it.
Like you spit on the survivors of the USS Liberty?
Shut your mouth you old *****.
The_barBEARian said:Oldbear83 said:The_barBEARian said:Oldbear83 said:Mitch Blood Green said:Oldbear83 said:
LeftLeftMitch: " This isn't 1942. We were right in 1942. This is 2026"
So you support Iran's mullahs.
Noted.
Mullahs? No. Our kids in the military? Yes.
Mullahs and I have an agreement. I don't **** with them. They don't **** with me.
My favorite Mullah quote is "Don't start none. Won't be none!"
Mullahs never said that. Not in 1979, and not now.
But they have been '****ing' with the US since 1979.
Some of you just ignore that part.
You can not support a country while also not starting a war with them... a very esoteric concept for the Boomer mind.
Just your excuse to spit on the flag, and the men who serve it.
Like you spit on the survivors of the USS Liberty?
Shut your mouth you old *****.
Your lies are as weak as your arguments.
And just because you hear that last line all the time in no way qualifies you to use it here.
That which does not kill me, will try again and get nastier
Oldbear83 said:
You can't argue your way out of the fact that you are cheering against the United States.
So curious, anything that the US does you cheer on? We can't be wrong? We can't be acting in a disingenuous way? We can't be misled by leaders that have other motives at heart? So, you were for Viet Nam and sending kids over there? You were for 20 years in Afghanistan? You were for Iraq? Afterall, the leadership said they were necessary.
Leadership says to do it and you are 100% behind them. Sorry, I can't do that. My son's life is worth more than that. My nephew is worth more than dying in a desert for the Trump Family. So, you can say I am disloyal, but I for one will still question why we are doing things and who is benefiting. I am not interested in making Musk a trillionaire or Donald Trump Jr more money.
FLBear5630 said:Oldbear83 said:
You can't argue your way out of the fact that you are cheering against the United States.
So curious, anything that the US does you cheer on? We can't be wrong? We can't be acting in a disingenuous way? We can't be misled by leaders that have other motives at heart? So, you were for Viet Nam and sending kids over there? You were for 20 years in Afghanistan? You were for Iraq? Afterall, the leadership said they were necessary.
Leadership says to do it and you are 100% behind them. Sorry, I can't do that. My son's life is worth more than that. My nephew is worth more than dying in a desert for the Trump Family. So, you can say I am disloyal, but I for one will still question why we are doing things and who is benefiting. I am not interested in making Musk a trillionaire or Donald Trump Jr more money.
Look, quisling, it's one thing to argue policy when it's theory or in planning, but we're at war.
You either back our guys or you don't. You either keep in mind that our guys are planning the specifics and taking the risks, or you keep doing what you are doing.
You chose poorly.
That which does not kill me, will try again and get nastier
They don't actually care, they only care because it was Trump who is doing it.
If it was Barrack Osama doing it, they would be all in. Again, they are purely playing politics like most libs do
If it was Barrack Osama doing it, they would be all in. Again, they are purely playing politics like most libs do
BREAKING: President Trump tells @TreyYingst that a deal with Iran is expected in next few hours. pic.twitter.com/hTEfGMGb60
— Fox News (@FoxNews) June 14, 2026
HEGSETH: We have controlled the straits this entire time
— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) June 14, 2026
BRENNAN: You're negotiating with them to reopen it pic.twitter.com/BEgqpmYBB5
I can't tell you how many people, several of whom you'd know, who are contacting me out of grave concern.
— Mark R. Levin (@marklevinshow) June 14, 2026
The_barBEARian said:Oldbear83 said:Mitch Blood Green said:Oldbear83 said:
LeftLeftMitch: " This isn't 1942. We were right in 1942. This is 2026"
So you support Iran's mullahs.
Noted.
Mullahs? No. Our kids in the military? Yes.
Mullahs and I have an agreement. I don't **** with them. They don't **** with me.
My favorite Mullah quote is "Don't start none. Won't be none!"
Mullahs never said that. Not in 1979, and not now.
But they have been '****ing' with the US since 1979.
Some of you just ignore that part.
You can not support a country while also not starting a war with them... a very esoteric concept for the Boomer mind.
The Iranian government isn't so much a country as it is an Islamic criminal gang. There are a number of countries that are basically criminal gangs. With some of them, like Venezuela, it is fairly easy to do something about it. Others, like the People's Republic of China or North Korea, pose more of a challenge.
When you say "do something about it", do you mean initiate military action that doesn't result in actual regime change? Because we're about to agree to support the "Islamic criminal gang" more than anyone would have thought prior to February 28th and the "harmless" nuclear dust we justified the war over.D. C. Bear said:The_barBEARian said:Oldbear83 said:Mitch Blood Green said:Oldbear83 said:
LeftLeftMitch: " This isn't 1942. We were right in 1942. This is 2026"
So you support Iran's mullahs.
Noted.
Mullahs? No. Our kids in the military? Yes.
Mullahs and I have an agreement. I don't **** with them. They don't **** with me.
My favorite Mullah quote is "Don't start none. Won't be none!"
Mullahs never said that. Not in 1979, and not now.
But they have been '****ing' with the US since 1979.
Some of you just ignore that part.
You can not support a country while also not starting a war with them... a very esoteric concept for the Boomer mind.
The Iranian government isn't so much a country as it is an Islamic criminal gang. There are a number of countries that are basically criminal gangs. With some of them, like Venezuela, it is fairly easy to do something about it. Others, like the People's Republic of China or North Korea, pose more of a challenge.
You'd think we'd have learned something about how "fairly easy it is" to do something with these despotic regimes…
Following intensive talks, we are pleased to announce that the Peace Deal between the United States of America and Islamic Republic of Iran has been REACHED. Both sides have declared the immediate and permanent termination of military operations on all fronts, including in…
— Shehbaz Sharif (@CMShehbaz) June 14, 2026
BREAKING: US oil prices crash below $81/barrel after Pakistan announces that the US and Iran have reached a peace deal. pic.twitter.com/CUY5N8GUdz
— The Kobeissi Letter (@KobeissiLetter) June 14, 2026