You sure like to throw tantrums. Ironic in the context of your attempted point.

HuMcK said:

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It's cute that some of y'all think this administration has a concrete plan or strategy, despite all available evidence being to the contrary. He's threatening tolls now as some kind of 3d chess move, to "poison the well"? Get real and stop lying to yourselves.

Here's a thought excercise: can anyone name one exemplary "deal" this President has struck that was actually good and lasting? I'll even make it easier and open it up to examples from his business career before he was President. And it can't be one that he screwed all of his business partners but walked away personally richer from, God knows his history is full of those examples.

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Apprentice was a good deal for him and NBC.

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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Danielsjackson114 said:

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Idc about Israel or jews in general for that matter lol

If they were wiped out, I wouldn't be losing sleep

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Wow! We have another resident Jew hater. You and the Militant Muslims have something in common. Very disappointed in you son!

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wow, this board is littered with a bunch of White Nationalist, Jew Hating Nazis. Scary

JUST IN: 🇺🇸🇮🇷 Brent crude oil surges 10% as US-Iran war resumes. pic.twitter.com/FKKVrwRSpe

— Watcher.Guru (@WatcherGuru) July 13, 2026

Cover your bunghole Cuba

JUST IN: Trump reveals Cuba may have Iranian drones.

— Polymarket (@Polymarket) July 13, 2026

Secretary of State Marco Rubio on the Strait of Hormuz: "No country is allowed to charge tolls or fees on an international waterway." pic.twitter.com/BOBBfiDN43

— CBS News (@CBSNews) June 23, 2026

We've got a break from the usual recent pattern… we did not have the usual Monday stand down

.@POTUS: "We're going to hit them very hard tonight and we're going to hit them hard tomorrow — and there's not a damn thing they can do about it. They have nothing. They have nothing going other than they have big mouths... I got to know them, and they're stone cold crazy." https://t.co/vKSOZN3EaI pic.twitter.com/UH8lBL5An3

— Rapid Response 47 (@RapidResponse47) July 13, 2026

COLLINS: The US is bombing Iran again. You've been bombing Iran for months now. Is this just the new normal for the American people

TRUMP: Well, we were in Vietnam for 19 years. We're here for four months. pic.twitter.com/ycRLxLvWqU

— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) July 13, 2026

now the the regime is changed and we got all the nuclear material, plus all Ballistic Missiles destroyed (the ones they are shouting at gulf states. Now, we have all that, it's time to get out of there! Mission accomplished!

boognish_bear said:

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🇺🇸🇮🇱 Rep. Thomas Massie is pushing back on the big annual defense bill (NDAA).

He wants his amendment stripping Section 219, which would merge U.S. military tech and supply chains with Israel’s, to get a vote when the Rules Committee meets Monday night.

If they block it, he… pic.twitter.com/sDmsD7o26y

— Mario Nawfal (@MarioNawfal) July 11, 2026

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The Israeli takeover of the US has been a long time coming.

Col. Lawrence Wilkerson: ‘I watched Mossad take over the Pentagon in 2002.'pic.twitter.com/qQmCxopwNW

— ThePatrioticBlonde™🇺🇸 (@ImBreckWorsham) July 13, 2026

WAR.

- UF

{ sipping VICTORY }

{ eating FREEDOM }

D!

Go Bears!!

boognish_bear said:

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JUST IN: Dubai plans to build a "new port" to bypass Strait of Hormuz

— Kalshi (@Kalshi) July 13, 2026

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the GREAT PLAN unfolds......

- UF

... the genius written in the sands ....

... like mascara on a donkey.

- The Sage

D!

{ sipping covfefe }

boognish_bear said:

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Secretary of State Marco Rubio on the Strait of Hormuz: "No country is allowed to charge tolls or fees on an international waterway." pic.twitter.com/BOBBfiDN43

— CBS News (@CBSNews) June 23, 2026

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confusobfusration.........

- UF

Marco 2028!

boognish_bear said:

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Cover your bunghole Cuba

JUST IN: Trump reveals Cuba may have Iranian drones.

— Polymarket (@Polymarket) July 13, 2026

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Cuba? Really???

200 - 300 people live off a $18B Trust while other 11+ million exist in poverty.

Make sense to you???

PA.

- UL

.... and, as usual, TIA.

{ sipping coffee }

Go Get 'em Marco!!

Fight, Ted, fight!!!

WAR! Pete!!!!

william said:

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boognish_bear said:

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Cover your bunghole Cuba

JUST IN: Trump reveals Cuba may have Iranian drones.

— Polymarket (@Polymarket) July 13, 2026

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Cuba? Really???

200 - 300 people live off a $18B Trust while other 11+ million exist in poverty.

Make sense to you???

PA.

- UL

.... and, as usual, TIA.

{ sipping coffee }

Go Get 'em Marco!!

Fight, Ted, fight!!!

WAR! Pete!!!!

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mas Hoya de Monterrey Chirchill, Bueno, Marco!

El Noche de Fuego:

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Christian's do have a connection to Jews and Israel since Jesus Christ was a Jew. Also, he commanded us to live our neighbors. Americans have connections to Israel since they are our allies. They have the most stable government in the region with a government and culture most similar to ours. It's logical for us to be allies.

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Why are Jews who have converted to Christianity the only Jews who are excluded from the "Right to Return" despite their Jewish heritage?

Even Jewish atheists are allowed "Right of Return"

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If I'm not mistaken, legally they are Arab citizens of Israel. If so, they have more rights and are treated better than Arabs in any other country of the region.

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That might explain some of your confusion. While there are Arab citizens of Israel (and they are in fact treated rather poorly), the Palestinians of the West Bank and Gaza are denied that privilege.

Infants are denied the privilege too when they are aborted etc

Nothing on the subject?

Danielsjackson114 said:

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Infants are denied the privilege too when they are aborted etc

Nothing on the subject?

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I understand that.

Trump touts Gulf partners investing 'billions' in US after backing away from Strait of Hormuz fees
President Donald Trump said multiple "strong partners" of the U.S. reached out to him after he announced plans to impose a fee on cargo passing through the Strait of Hormuz and told him "we'd love to do it a different way."
Trump made the remark at the White House on Tuesday after revealing he was backing away from the U.S. charging a 20% fee, replacing the measure with "Trade and Investment Deals that the various Gulf States will be making into the United States."
"So I put it out yesterday. I thought it was good. I was called by different people, different countries, kings and emirs and all of the people that we all know and we all love. And they've been, frankly, they've been very strong partners. And they said, 'we'd love to do it a different way, we'd love to invest in the United States with billions and billions of dollars,' and continue our record setting, because we would, there's never been a time like this for the United States with the factories, with the plants, with everything else," Trump said.
"'And we would like to invest tremendously in the United States as opposed to charging a fee.' And I like that, actually, because I don't think anybody should be able to charge a fee for the Strait or for any other strait relationship in terms of other sections of the world," Trump added. "I don't think anybody should be really in that position. But we were doing it as a reimbursement. The Gulf states are going to invest a tremendous amount of money into the United States, and that was very satisfactory to me. I think it's actually much better."

boognish_bear said:

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Cover your bunghole Cuba

JUST IN: Trump reveals Cuba may have Iranian drones.

— Polymarket (@Polymarket) July 13, 2026

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Accuse them of storing Iranian drones or developing nuclear weapons. Bomb the $ hit out of them. Obliterate an already crumbling and struggling country......send $billions of U.S. taxpayer dollars to "rebuild".........rinse and repeat.

Greenland had better get ready. They will be next.

Sam Lowry said:

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historian said:

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If I'm not mistaken, legally they are Arab citizens of Israel. If so, they have more rights and are treated better than Arabs in any other country of the region.

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That might explain some of your confusion. While there are Arab citizens of Israel (and they are in fact treated rather poorly), the Palestinians of the West Bank and Gaza are denied that privilege.

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Arab Israelis are treated better there than Arabs are treated anywhere else in the region. They have more rights and are even in the government. Name one Arab country try that provide comparable rights or power to Jews or Christians.

Naturally, terrorists ard not given special treatment in Israel like they are treated by western Leftists. Israel usually won't treat people who want to slaughter them like royalty. Western Leftists do that.

D. C. Bear said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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historian said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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historian said:

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If I'm not mistaken, legally they are Arab citizens of Israel. If so, they have more rights and are treated better than Arabs in any other country of the region.

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That might explain some of your confusion. While there are Arab citizens of Israel (and they are in fact treated rather poorly), the Palestinians of the West Bank and Gaza are denied that privilege.

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Arab Israelis are treated better there than Arabs are treated anywhere else in the region. They have more rights and are even in the government. Name one Arab country try that provide comparable rights or power to Jews or Christians.

Naturally, terrorists ard not given special treatment in Israel like they are treated by western Leftists. Israel usually won't treat people who want to slaughter them like royalty. Western Leftists do that.

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Israel systematically discriminates against Arab citizens in almost every possible way.

But you're not answering my question. If the Arabs of Gaza and the West Bank aren't part of Israel, who are they?

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Israel does not discriminate against its Arab citizens "in almost every possible way." When you say things like this it makes you look like a fool.

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... but they do discriminate.

Its illegal in Israel for an Arab to marry a Jewish woman.

Sam Lowry said:

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historian said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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historian said:

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If I'm not mistaken, legally they are Arab citizens of Israel. If so, they have more rights and are treated better than Arabs in any other country of the region.

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That might explain some of your confusion. While there are Arab citizens of Israel (and they are in fact treated rather poorly), the Palestinians of the West Bank and Gaza are denied that privilege.

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Arab Israelis are treated better there than Arabs are treated anywhere else in the region. They have more rights and are even in the government. Name one Arab country try that provide comparable rights or power to Jews or Christians.

Naturally, terrorists ard not given special treatment in Israel like they are treated by western Leftists. Israel usually won't treat people who want to slaughter them like royalty. Western Leftists do that.

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Israel systematically discriminates against Arab citizens in almost every possible way.

But you're not answering my question. If the Arabs of Gaza and the West Bank aren't part of Israel, who are they?

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Two points on your argument of discrimination in Israel.

One - Should Israel ever actually annex the West Bank and Gaza as part of the state of Israel, there would be massive international backlash. Palestinians in those areas would never be under Israeli control. Even now after October 2023 Israel cannot take full political control of Gaza, much less the West Bank. Those areas cannot have full rights of Arab Israelis as they don't live under Israeli government.

Two - Your article is addressing discrimination toward the Arabs in the two areas not under full Israeli control. October 2023 certainly did not help with the way Israel can deal with these two areas.

Three - Palestinians are people of a variety of descents. Gaza is different from the West Bank in make up of historic Arab tribes and peoples. Palestine itself is a construct of 20th century politics. And has been shown many times on this board, the present borders of the state of Israel are the results of two defensive wars and a peace deal with Egypt.

present borders:


Israeli Arabs living in the political boundaries of Israel proper have full rights as citizens. As in other countries there are concerns of those rights being curtailed by practice and, in Israel's case, security laws (I wonder why?) But Arabs in Israel are much safer and have much better healthcare and voting rights than their brethren in Gaza and the West Bank.
https://factually.co/fact-checks/politics/legal-rights-israeli-arab-citizens-vs-jewish-citizens-2024-918384https://factually.co/fact-checks/politics/legal-rights-israeli-arab-citizens-vs-jewish-citizens-2024-918384

D. C. Bear said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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historian said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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historian said:

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If I'm not mistaken, legally they are Arab citizens of Israel. If so, they have more rights and are treated better than Arabs in any other country of the region.

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That might explain some of your confusion. While there are Arab citizens of Israel (and they are in fact treated rather poorly), the Palestinians of the West Bank and Gaza are denied that privilege.

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Arab Israelis are treated better there than Arabs are treated anywhere else in the region. They have more rights and are even in the government. Name one Arab country try that provide comparable rights or power to Jews or Christians.

Naturally, terrorists ard not given special treatment in Israel like they are treated by western Leftists. Israel usually won't treat people who want to slaughter them like royalty. Western Leftists do that.

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Israel systematically discriminates against Arab citizens in almost every possible way.

But you're not answering my question. If the Arabs of Gaza and the West Bank aren't part of Israel, who are they?

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Israel does not discriminate against its Arab citizens "in almost every possible way." When you say things like this it makes you look like a fool.

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I agree. Why'd you say it?

The_barBEARian said:

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... but they do discriminate.

Its illegal in Israel for an Arab to marry a Jewish woman.

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"Matrimonial law is based on the millet or confessional community system which had been employed in the Ottoman Empire, including what is now Israel, was not modified during the British Mandate of the region, and remains in force in the State of Israel"

It isn't a Jew thing. It's a regional thing and continuity thing. Something like the common land laws in former Spanish controlled areas like New Mexico.

The millet does not formally recognize interfaith marriages, though there are ways around the old law. The law cuts all ways.

The article is mainly about Arabs in Israel. Of course they are safer than those in the OPT, but that isn't saying much.

EatMoreSalmon said:

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The_barBEARian said:

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... but they do discriminate.

Its illegal in Israel for an Arab to marry a Jewish woman.

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"Matrimonial law is based on the millet or confessional community system which had been employed in the Ottoman Empire, including what is now Israel, was not modified during the British Mandate of the region, and remains in force in the State of Israel"

It isn't a Jew thing. It's a regional thing and continuity thing. Something like the common land laws in former Spanish controlled areas like New Mexico.

The millet does not formally recognize interfaith marriages, though there are ways around the old law. The law cuts all ways.

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You guys keep telling me Israel is the only democracy in the middle east... so why dont they change the law?

Leftist uses leftist group as evidence to support leftist claim.