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⚡️ A former U.S. Air Force pilot, close to U.S. Central Command, says that at least 3 to 5 more soldiers on medical evacuation planes "will probably not survive." There are also 15 other soldiers with serious, life-threatening injuries, whose fate remains unclear. pic.twitter.com/67dwUWcRsF

— Middle East Observer (@ME_Observer_) July 18, 2026

Unfortunate. Hopefully we get out of this mess quickly.

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I hope so too....but it sure doesn't feel that it's headed that way.

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⚡️ A former U.S. Air Force pilot, close to U.S. Central Command, says that at least 3 to 5 more soldiers on medical evacuation planes "will probably not survive." There are also 15 other soldiers with serious, life-threatening injuries, whose fate remains unclear. pic.twitter.com/67dwUWcRsF

— Middle East Observer (@ME_Observer_) July 18, 2026

Unfortunate. Hopefully we get out of this mess quickly.

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Reporter: 120 children dead, 26 of their teachers, a Sky News investigation released today points to all this being a tragic mistake by the US military, so could you explain please why the president is repeatedly saying it wasn't America? I just want to understand why he… pic.twitter.com/BJmoWhvWVH

— Acyn (@Acyn) July 16, 2026

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She does an admirable job covering for a habitual liar. Bothers me that she says defer rather than refer, overuses "with respect to" which is modern lazylingo, but overall, hey, good job.

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I've been on record saying that sugar tits here is the most talented and has the hardest job in this Administration.

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Sad to see you locked in on D side thinking.

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D side thinking? We have 40 years of evidence.

Tax cuts don't drive job creation.

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Not quite fair, is it? Do Trump before covid maybe.

“Nobody Negotiated Like I Do” — CNN’s Kaitlan Collins Asks Trump if Bombing Iran Is the New Normal pic.twitter.com/njnN2Mbhhq

— DiaperDiplomacy (@DiaperDiplomacy) July 14, 2026

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Sad to see you locked in on D side thinking.

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D side thinking? We have 40 years of evidence.

Tax cuts don't drive job creation.

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Not quite fair, is it? Do Trump before covid maybe.

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Absolutely fair. Every president has crisis. If I look at it your way, it takes away any responsibilities the president has for crisis management.

Personally, I don't see much difference in his crisis management skills from COVID to Iran.

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Biden could have slept through his first two years in the recovery from COVID fear and gained in jobs recovered…. and he did. Biden needs an asterisk for sure as those were not new jobs by a high margin.

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Sad to see you locked in on D side thinking.

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D side thinking? We have 40 years of evidence.

Tax cuts don't drive job creation.

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Not quite fair, is it? Do Trump before covid maybe.

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Absolutely fair. Every president has crisis. If I look at it your way, it takes away any responsibilities the president has for crisis management.

Personally, I don't see much difference in his crisis management skills from COVID to Iran.

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Biden could have slept through his first two years in the recovery from COVID fear and gained in jobs recovered…. and he did. Biden needs an asterisk for sure as those were not new jobs by a high margin.

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What remains is that the trickle down tax cut strategy produces higher debt and deficits and does not drive job creation.

WAR - Part 2 - Day 9.

- UF

{ sipping coffee }

{ eating donut }

D!

Go Bears!!

Iran Says Two Tankers Exploded In Hormuz Chokepoint As Ship Traffic Near Standstill

"UK maritime authorities reported an unverified vessel fire near Oman late Sunday. Reuters reports that Iran's Revolutionary Guards claimed two crude oil tankers exploded and were immobilized while using what Tehran called an unsafe southern route in the Hormuz.

Bloomberg ship-tracking data shows that vessels crossing the Hormuz chokepoint have come to a near standstill as Gulf escalation has surged for the ninth day, with Iran targeting not just the maritime chokepoint but also US military assets at Jordan's Aqaba airport with ballistic missiles, as well as US assets at Kuwait's Al-Adiri camp and Ali Al Salem Air Base, and in Syria. Iran also hit civilian infrastructure, notably power generation and water desalination plants in Kuwait"

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BREAKING: U.S. officials believe Iran has significantly upgraded its missile capabilities.

According to the Wall Street Journal, Iran is now using missiles that travel at extremely high speeds and can maneuver during their final descent, making them far more difficult for…

— The Iranian Letter (@TheIranianzg3z) July 18, 2026

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Crazy work from a country we have defeated militarily 10+ times since April.

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Must be buying missiles from someone else. Whiterock assured us we had decimated their ballistic capabilities.

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Not only that, but the rest of the world has no choice but to do what we want them to do. We can do anything to them and they wouldn't go against us.

So, it is impossible that somebody is selling them missiles. So, it can't be that. Must be fake news.

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It's not quite that bad. If Iran had not shot at tankers, we would totally be the bad guys, using might makes right principles to bully Iran into submission. But they have threatened the world economy, and unlike when we do it with tariffs, they don't havd the clout to get away with it.

So while the rhetoric is largely anti US, the international community has little issue with bombing the missile capabilities of a terrorist state who is shooting at oil tankers and freight ships.

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You lost me, the comment was about others supplying Iran and us have said we won the war too many times to count. We were told it is over, they were decimated and it seems they are getting stronger and the missiles more sophisticated.

No one said that bombing Iran's missile capability was wrong or bad. Or that Iran is blameless.

Problem is the only way this ends is occupying and that will cost a lot of American lifes

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soldier - let me know if you want to be regressed.

no cost.

- UF

I am certified**.

Or more precisely - 'p*certfied'.

- tbp*

** by the American Greater Swine Institute***.

*** located in my kitchen.

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“Nobody Negotiated Like I Do” — CNN’s Kaitlan Collins Asks Trump if Bombing Iran Is the New Normal pic.twitter.com/njnN2Mbhhq

— DiaperDiplomacy (@DiaperDiplomacy) July 14, 2026

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that is some well needed levity, right there.

How many of the new jobs under Biden went to illegals? Americans did not get any real benefits from Pres Autopen.

How anyone cites the Joe Biden presidency is beyond me..

But most that do are part of the liberal clown party

In other words, the "new jobs" under Biden harmed the economy and the country. The Dems do not create anything. They only destroy. That's because they are socialists, whether they admit it or not.

Hopefully we will never experience that stupidity.

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GOING VIRAL: Blue-Haired Trans Student LOSES IT, Attacks Cops When Officer Misgenders Him Gets Tased and Arrested (VIDEO)
Jul. 19, 2026

Police body camera footage from the University of Central Florida last year is blowing up on the internet due to the absurdity police had to deal with from a so-called transgender student.
The now viral incident occurred in February 2025 but has resurfaced.

An officer, seen in the video below, walks into a campus building, where he encounters a blue-haired student, who has been identified as 27-year-old Jarrett Vick. "Why do you let those kids get away with this? They are not supposed to be here," Vick screams at the officer, sparking the incident.

The cop, who said he was on campus for a stolen vehicle investigation, then threatened to put him in cuffs and take him to a Baker Act facility for psychiatric hold, and Vick said, "******* try it."
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D side thinking? We have 40 years of evidence.

Tax cuts don't drive job creation.

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Not quite fair, is it? Do Trump before covid maybe.

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Absolutely fair. Every president has crisis. If I look at it your way, it takes away any responsibilities the president has for crisis management.

Personally, I don't see much difference in his crisis management skills from COVID to Iran.

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Nope. They shut the entire country down. That's not a crisis that anyone else on your list dealt with. If half the country got nuked by China and Russia, would you say those jobs numbers are fair game because everyone has a crisis to deal with?

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D side thinking? We have 40 years of evidence.

Tax cuts don't drive job creation.

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Not quite fair, is it? Do Trump before covid maybe.

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Absolutely fair. Every president has crisis. If I look at it your way, it takes away any responsibilities the president has for crisis management.

Personally, I don't see much difference in his crisis management skills from COVID to Iran.

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Nope. They shut the entire country down. That's not a crisis that anyone else on your list dealt with. If half the country got nuked by China and Russia, would you say those jobs numbers are fair game because everyone has a crisis to deal with?

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You have additional data points. We can start with the last 18 months.

His baseball card said he is not an effective business man. Multiple bankruptcies, (taking his cut and leaving his others holding the bag). Lots of lawsuits, then backing down.

How do you see this term differently than his private life?

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To this point Iran has mainly focused on demonstrating its capabilities and taking out US military assets. At best these strikes represent a measured escalation in response to recent US attacks. At worst they're a sign that Iran is moving to the next tier of targets and getting serious about hitting civilian infrastructure throughout the region, with all the global economic consequences that implies.

I've never seen a president so completely flailing and out of his depth (and I lived through the Biden administration).

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I think both sides are moving on the next tier of targets. Trump said this coming week is "bridge and power plant day", and the Iranians are going to respond in kind. I don't think the economic realities of this war can be hidden beyond another few weeks.

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Although we have hit bridges, they were bridges adjacent to military installations. Good to stay away from purely civilian infrastructure.

For those who care about international law, Iran hitting desalination and power in Kuwait is a war crime. I am sure the international outcry will be swift.

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We've been hitting civilian targets all along. It's just that our focus has been more on terrorizing the population (counter-productively) in hopes of inducing regime change rather than punishing them for the sake of punishment (also counter-productive, but we're near the end of our options at this point).

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No, we have not been hitting many civilian targets. Those we have seem a mix of accident or near enough to military targets to be excused away.

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60 hospitals, 44 schools, and thousands of residences in the first month alone, displacing over 3.2 million people. It's inexcusable and a direct result of Hegseth's contempt for the rules of engagement.

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BREAKING: U.S. officials believe Iran has significantly upgraded its missile capabilities.

According to the Wall Street Journal, Iran is now using missiles that travel at extremely high speeds and can maneuver during their final descent, making them far more difficult for…

— The Iranian Letter (@TheIranianzg3z) July 18, 2026

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Called this one back in March.

" His baseball card said he is not an effective business man. Multiple bankruptcies, (taking his cut and leaving his others holding the bag). Lots of lawsuits, then backing down."

Funny, I hear that a lot. Yet Trump has always been able to make new deals and contracts, something failed businessmen are not able to do in my experience.

So, are you saying all these people who have done business with Trump after, say, 2000 are idiots who don't know his history, or is it that you are missing other factors and facts in the bankruptcies and lawsuits you think make your case?

Lmao your liberal clown self would believe "The Iranian Letter"

Holy shyte, you all are idiots

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GOING VIRAL: Blue-Haired Trans Student LOSES IT, Attacks Cops When Officer Misgenders Him Gets Tased and Arrested (VIDEO)
Jul. 19, 2026

Police body camera footage from the University of Central Florida last year is blowing up on the internet due to the absurdity police had to deal with from a so-called transgender student.
The now viral incident occurred in February 2025 but has resurfaced.

An officer, seen in the video below, walks into a campus building, where he encounters a blue-haired student, who has been identified as 27-year-old Jarrett Vick. "Why do you let those kids get away with this? They are not supposed to be here," Vick screams at the officer, sparking the incident.

The cop, who said he was on campus for a stolen vehicle investigation, then threatened to put him in cuffs and take him to a Baker Act facility for psychiatric hold, and Vick said, "******* try it."
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D side thinking? We have 40 years of evidence.

Tax cuts don't drive job creation.

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Not quite fair, is it? Do Trump before covid maybe.

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Absolutely fair. Every president has crisis. If I look at it your way, it takes away any responsibilities the president has for crisis management.

Personally, I don't see much difference in his crisis management skills from COVID to Iran.

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If you are counting jobs shutdown for Covid and then "created" when opened back up, thats not a fair gauge

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I love the saying "you are what's on the back of your baseball card)

Trump is proving this to be true. He's. It's a horrible human being (as stated in his cards with the divorces, lies and failure to pay his bills) and a horrible business man/negotiator (see bankruptcies and lawsuits)

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The back of a baseball card does not include rumors, gossip, smears and so on.


We could have a good discussion on the effects and success/failure of Trump's polices. Perhaps someone else will agree and this topic could serve a better direction.

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There are facts we can discuss. Even though JD Vance sleeps with couches, that's not on Trumps card.

Budgets, deficits, wars, bankruptcies are all provable.

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Context matters though. And some seem to deliberately ignore that.

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In what context would you put $13T debt increase over 5 years of a presidency?

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Consider how much of that is from interest, Congressional adventures, and of course the predecessor.

Presidents have been known to start big expenses and leave them for someone else to pay.

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Considered.

Over the last 25 years, Republican administrations offer tax cuts then go to unfunded war. (Or other emergencies) 2008 financial crisis, COVID etc.

Since 1980, we've tried this "trickle down" nonsense. We keep learning that you have to collect taxes if you want to pay your obligations.

Of course, Congress has some responsibility, too. Needless to say, Trump economic policy appear to be kleptocracy.

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It's all "trickle down". Some of us just prefer the source being free capital flow vs the manufactured intentions of government wealth distribution and political favor.

Let's not confuse poor governance for poor economics.

Every time Iran kills an American Soldier they will pay for that killing many times over. pic.twitter.com/KJ203VKate

— The White House (@WhiteHouse) July 20, 2026