President Trump announces military strikes on Iran: Operation Epic Fury

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Mitch Blood Green said:

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Just keeps getting better and better. How can we spend insane amounts on defense every year and already be having supply issues in a war with a country about a quarter of our population after just 5 months?

Iran is perfecting rope-a-dope.



BREAKING: The Pentagon is confronting a growing reality after months of fighting in Iran.

America's stockpile of missile defense interceptors is shrinking so much that military planners are weighing whether they can continue the current cycle of limited retaliatory strikes.

Iran's strategy appears to be targeting U.S. bases, forcing the U.S. to deplete its advanced missile defense interceptors, such as Patriot and THAAD systems, and compelling the Pentagon to accept greater risk in defending U.S. troops as the conflict drags on. Iran appears to believe this is its best hope of outlasting the U.S. military.



I'm glad we are exposing the inability to ramp up production enough now, and not after a major move by China against Taiwan or elsewhere.
We'd be outproduced in a conflict with China right now.

Also better start looking for easier to mass produce alternatives as drone (and robotic) warfare expands.


I don't think China thinks like us. We keep spending on war. They're spending on growth and infrastructure.


In the US it's the private sector that drives growth. They've been disincentivized to do so when industry is moved overseas. The fix is not going to be fast or painless.

Infrastructure is a joint private public venture. Our reps have been a failure even in spending money on what they called infrastructure.
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How are those oil reserves looking?

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EatMoreSalmon said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

EatMoreSalmon said:

boognish_bear said:

Just keeps getting better and better. How can we spend insane amounts on defense every year and already be having supply issues in a war with a country about a quarter of our population after just 5 months?

Iran is perfecting rope-a-dope.



BREAKING: The Pentagon is confronting a growing reality after months of fighting in Iran.

America's stockpile of missile defense interceptors is shrinking so much that military planners are weighing whether they can continue the current cycle of limited retaliatory strikes.

Iran's strategy appears to be targeting U.S. bases, forcing the U.S. to deplete its advanced missile defense interceptors, such as Patriot and THAAD systems, and compelling the Pentagon to accept greater risk in defending U.S. troops as the conflict drags on. Iran appears to believe this is its best hope of outlasting the U.S. military.



I'm glad we are exposing the inability to ramp up production enough now, and not after a major move by China against Taiwan or elsewhere.
We'd be outproduced in a conflict with China right now.

Also better start looking for easier to mass produce alternatives as drone (and robotic) warfare expands.


I don't think China thinks like us. We keep spending on war. They're spending on growth and infrastructure.


In the US it's the private sector that drives growth. They've been disincentivized to do so when industry is moved overseas. The fix is not going to be fast or painless.

Infrastructure is a joint private public venture. Our reps have been a failure even in spending money on what they called infrastructure.

Just curious what infrastructure failures have you seen when the money is available?
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FLBear5630 said:

EatMoreSalmon said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

EatMoreSalmon said:

boognish_bear said:

Just keeps getting better and better. How can we spend insane amounts on defense every year and already be having supply issues in a war with a country about a quarter of our population after just 5 months?

Iran is perfecting rope-a-dope.



BREAKING: The Pentagon is confronting a growing reality after months of fighting in Iran.

America's stockpile of missile defense interceptors is shrinking so much that military planners are weighing whether they can continue the current cycle of limited retaliatory strikes.

Iran's strategy appears to be targeting U.S. bases, forcing the U.S. to deplete its advanced missile defense interceptors, such as Patriot and THAAD systems, and compelling the Pentagon to accept greater risk in defending U.S. troops as the conflict drags on. Iran appears to believe this is its best hope of outlasting the U.S. military.



I'm glad we are exposing the inability to ramp up production enough now, and not after a major move by China against Taiwan or elsewhere.
We'd be outproduced in a conflict with China right now.

Also better start looking for easier to mass produce alternatives as drone (and robotic) warfare expands.


I don't think China thinks like us. We keep spending on war. They're spending on growth and infrastructure.


In the US it's the private sector that drives growth. They've been disincentivized to do so when industry is moved overseas. The fix is not going to be fast or painless.

Infrastructure is a joint private public venture. Our reps have been a failure even in spending money on what they called infrastructure.

Just curious what infrastructure failures have you seen when the money is available?

The huge "infrastructure" bill in 2009 that in no way produced a significant amount of real work done per dollar spent
The rural internet and charging station expenditures the last administration

Can you think of any others that actually purported to spend on infrastructure not after a disaster?
I could have included the canceled pipeline to Canada that got scrapped, but it is a symptom of the avoidance of infrastructure spending that is needed.
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EatMoreSalmon said:

FLBear5630 said:

EatMoreSalmon said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

EatMoreSalmon said:

boognish_bear said:

Just keeps getting better and better. How can we spend insane amounts on defense every year and already be having supply issues in a war with a country about a quarter of our population after just 5 months?

Iran is perfecting rope-a-dope.



BREAKING: The Pentagon is confronting a growing reality after months of fighting in Iran.

America's stockpile of missile defense interceptors is shrinking so much that military planners are weighing whether they can continue the current cycle of limited retaliatory strikes.

Iran's strategy appears to be targeting U.S. bases, forcing the U.S. to deplete its advanced missile defense interceptors, such as Patriot and THAAD systems, and compelling the Pentagon to accept greater risk in defending U.S. troops as the conflict drags on. Iran appears to believe this is its best hope of outlasting the U.S. military.



I'm glad we are exposing the inability to ramp up production enough now, and not after a major move by China against Taiwan or elsewhere.
We'd be outproduced in a conflict with China right now.

Also better start looking for easier to mass produce alternatives as drone (and robotic) warfare expands.


I don't think China thinks like us. We keep spending on war. They're spending on growth and infrastructure.


In the US it's the private sector that drives growth. They've been disincentivized to do so when industry is moved overseas. The fix is not going to be fast or painless.

Infrastructure is a joint private public venture. Our reps have been a failure even in spending money on what they called infrastructure.

Just curious what infrastructure failures have you seen when the money is available?

The huge "infrastructure" bill in 2009 that in no way produced a significant amount of real work done per dollar spent
The rural internet and charging station expenditures the last administration

Can you think of any others that actually purported to spend on infrastructure not after a disaster?
I could have included the canceled pipeline to Canada that got scrapped, but it is a symptom of the avoidance of infrastructure spending that is needed.

I would go with transit. If we are going to go with the rail direction, than we have to do it. Not go half ass, that is wasting money.

Charging stations???? Talk to your boy Elon, he was the driving force behind electric. If you want to see how bad Elon is dug into the trough, read up on how Electric Vehicles won out politically when hydrogen was the better technology (Toyota is invested heavily in hydrogen, not electric.)
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"I don't think the Iranian regime has ever faced a president like President Trump."

Secretary of State Marco Rubio says Iran can no longer expect to negotiate without consequences, arguing President Trump is willing to take action where past administrations did not.

Rubio accuses Tehran of spending decades "lying, breaking deals, tricking people into agreements" as the White House warns Iran "will continue to pay" until it returns to what Trump considers meaningful negotiations.
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FLBear5630 said:

EatMoreSalmon said:

FLBear5630 said:

EatMoreSalmon said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

EatMoreSalmon said:

boognish_bear said:

Just keeps getting better and better. How can we spend insane amounts on defense every year and already be having supply issues in a war with a country about a quarter of our population after just 5 months?

Iran is perfecting rope-a-dope.



BREAKING: The Pentagon is confronting a growing reality after months of fighting in Iran.

America's stockpile of missile defense interceptors is shrinking so much that military planners are weighing whether they can continue the current cycle of limited retaliatory strikes.

Iran's strategy appears to be targeting U.S. bases, forcing the U.S. to deplete its advanced missile defense interceptors, such as Patriot and THAAD systems, and compelling the Pentagon to accept greater risk in defending U.S. troops as the conflict drags on. Iran appears to believe this is its best hope of outlasting the U.S. military.



I'm glad we are exposing the inability to ramp up production enough now, and not after a major move by China against Taiwan or elsewhere.
We'd be outproduced in a conflict with China right now.

Also better start looking for easier to mass produce alternatives as drone (and robotic) warfare expands.


I don't think China thinks like us. We keep spending on war. They're spending on growth and infrastructure.


In the US it's the private sector that drives growth. They've been disincentivized to do so when industry is moved overseas. The fix is not going to be fast or painless.

Infrastructure is a joint private public venture. Our reps have been a failure even in spending money on what they called infrastructure.

Just curious what infrastructure failures have you seen when the money is available?

The huge "infrastructure" bill in 2009 that in no way produced a significant amount of real work done per dollar spent
The rural internet and charging station expenditures the last administration

Can you think of any others that actually purported to spend on infrastructure not after a disaster?
I could have included the canceled pipeline to Canada that got scrapped, but it is a symptom of the avoidance of infrastructure spending that is needed.

I would go with transit. If we are going to go with the rail direction, than we have to do it. Not go half ass, that is wasting money.

Charging stations???? Talk to your boy Elon, he was the driving force behind electric. If you want to see how bad Elon is dug into the trough, read up on how Electric Vehicles won out politically when hydrogen was the better technology (Toyota is invested heavily in hydrogen, not electric.)

We have not had much of a plan for transportation since Ike's national highway project. As for rail, every place that could make it work, already has some kind of rail system in place. The newer efforts have all failed, for reasons which include corruption and piss-poor planning. Here in Houston for example, there were serious plans discussed but abandoned mostly because the city council only cared about their personal gain. The eventual 'light rail' that got built cost a ton of money but did nothing to help traffic because of where the rail was built, and not built.

And between traffic accidents everyone saw coming and land erosion causing tracks to buckle, the cost continue to rise while providing no net benefit to the public.

And then there are the electric vehicles. Everyone expects government to build charging stations, which is utter bollocks. The auto industry did not need government to build gas stations, they developed to meet need and no one stressed out. Same for charging stations.

You want to drive an e-car? Then how you keep it charged is up to you, and not the government.

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The commander of U.S. European Command has privately warned the Pentagon that he does not have enough naval forces to continue defending Israel against Iranian ballistic missile attacks and may soon have to prioritize defense of the U.S. homeland unless another Navy destroyer is assigned.

The warning from Gen. Alexus Grynkewich underscores the growing strain the Iran war has placed on U.S. military resources. The Washington Post reports that near-daily operations have stretched the Navy's destroyer fleet, while previous reporting from The Wall Street Journal, The New York Times, and Reuters has detailed mounting concerns over dwindling stocks of Patriot and other air defense interceptors needed to protect U.S. forces and allies.

The Pentagon declined to comment on the correspondence, but officials told the Post the warning reflects the military's process for alerting senior leaders when operational risks begin to exceed available resources.
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Oldbear83 said:

I notice you simply ignored the major problems China has, just so you pretend to be a military planning expert on one conflict.

China has problems. The U.S. has problems. (Although our President would never admit it.)

We keep hearing about China being a threat and China being a huge military threat. Why? At this point, Trump seems open to bombing anyone and everyone. He seems to have no finite plan or objective. This war needs to end. SOON!
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I think my cringe just cringed.

If he spent half the time actually planning the war as he has posting AI slop videos and images about it, maybe we would have something to actually celebrate.
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See your doctor if you keep posting like that one.
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303Bear said:

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I think my cringe just cringed.

If he spent half the time actually planning the war as he has posting AI slop videos and images about it, maybe we would have something to actually celebrate.


It is unlikely that he posts all the things he posts.
If it were up to me, he would not post anything.
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D. C. Bear said:

303Bear said:

boognish_bear said:




I think my cringe just cringed.

If he spent half the time actually planning the war as he has posting AI slop videos and images about it, maybe we would have something to actually celebrate.


It is unlikely that he posts all the things he posts.
If it were up to me, he would not post anything.

I truly believe someone on the staff, maybe multiple people, are sending those posts.

Prolly just to see certain folks blow a gasket overreacting.

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Oldbear83 said:

D. C. Bear said:

303Bear said:

boognish_bear said:




I think my cringe just cringed.

If he spent half the time actually planning the war as he has posting AI slop videos and images about it, maybe we would have something to actually celebrate.


It is unlikely that he posts all the things he posts.
If it were up to me, he would not post anything.

I truly believe someone on the staff, maybe multiple people, are sending those posts.

Prolly just to see certain folks blow a gasket overreacting.



yeah, just keep making excuses for Gold Narcissus Jesus. It's worked out well for you showing your ass repeatedly . Viva la Piggy and your Judgmental ass.
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D. C. Bear said:

303Bear said:

boognish_bear said:




I think my cringe just cringed.

If he spent half the time actually planning the war as he has posting AI slop videos and images about it, maybe we would have something to actually celebrate.


It is unlikely that he posts all the things he posts.
If it were up to me, he would not post anything.


MAGA Voice will be devastated to hear they arent retweeting the genuine, first hand words of their lord and savior.
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As usual, when JR gets angry you are on target.
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Oldbear83 said:

D. C. Bear said:

303Bear said:

boognish_bear said:




I think my cringe just cringed.

If he spent half the time actually planning the war as he has posting AI slop videos and images about it, maybe we would have something to actually celebrate.


It is unlikely that he posts all the things he posts.
If it were up to me, he would not post anything.

I truly believe someone on the staff, maybe multiple people, are sending those posts.

Prolly just to see certain folks blow a gasket overreacting.



There is no way the taxpayer is footing the bill for some aides to be trolling the country posing as the President.
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Porteroso said:

Oldbear83 said:

D. C. Bear said:

303Bear said:

boognish_bear said:




I think my cringe just cringed.

If he spent half the time actually planning the war as he has posting AI slop videos and images about it, maybe we would have something to actually celebrate.


It is unlikely that he posts all the things he posts.
If it were up to me, he would not post anything.

I truly believe someone on the staff, maybe multiple people, are sending those posts.

Prolly just to see certain folks blow a gasket overreacting.



There is no way the taxpayer is footing the bill for some aides to be trolling the country posing as the President.

You say so ...
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Oldbear83 said:

Porteroso said:

Oldbear83 said:

D. C. Bear said:

303Bear said:

boognish_bear said:




I think my cringe just cringed.

If he spent half the time actually planning the war as he has posting AI slop videos and images about it, maybe we would have something to actually celebrate.


It is unlikely that he posts all the things he posts.
If it were up to me, he would not post anything.

I truly believe someone on the staff, maybe multiple people, are sending those posts.

Prolly just to see certain folks blow a gasket overreacting.



There is no way the taxpayer is footing the bill for some aides to be trolling the country posing as the President.

You say so ...

DOGE needs to thin out the White House aides.
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Porteroso said:

Oldbear83 said:

Porteroso said:

Oldbear83 said:

D. C. Bear said:

303Bear said:

boognish_bear said:




I think my cringe just cringed.

If he spent half the time actually planning the war as he has posting AI slop videos and images about it, maybe we would have something to actually celebrate.


It is unlikely that he posts all the things he posts.
If it were up to me, he would not post anything.

I truly believe someone on the staff, maybe multiple people, are sending those posts.

Prolly just to see certain folks blow a gasket overreacting.



There is no way the taxpayer is footing the bill for some aides to be trolling the country posing as the President.

You say so ...

DOGE needs to thin out the White House aides.

You guys chased off DOGE, remember?
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Oldbear83 said:

Porteroso said:

Oldbear83 said:

Porteroso said:

Oldbear83 said:

D. C. Bear said:

303Bear said:

boognish_bear said:




I think my cringe just cringed.

If he spent half the time actually planning the war as he has posting AI slop videos and images about it, maybe we would have something to actually celebrate.


It is unlikely that he posts all the things he posts.
If it were up to me, he would not post anything.

I truly believe someone on the staff, maybe multiple people, are sending those posts.

Prolly just to see certain folks blow a gasket overreacting.



There is no way the taxpayer is footing the bill for some aides to be trolling the country posing as the President.

You say so ...

DOGE needs to thin out the White House aides.

You guys chased off DOGE, remember?


No, Elon just got rid of whoever had oversight on his companies, then they went away....
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FLBear5630 said:

Oldbear83 said:

Porteroso said:

Oldbear83 said:

Porteroso said:

Oldbear83 said:

D. C. Bear said:

303Bear said:

boognish_bear said:




I think my cringe just cringed.

If he spent half the time actually planning the war as he has posting AI slop videos and images about it, maybe we would have something to actually celebrate.


It is unlikely that he posts all the things he posts.
If it were up to me, he would not post anything.

I truly believe someone on the staff, maybe multiple people, are sending those posts.

Prolly just to see certain folks blow a gasket overreacting.



There is no way the taxpayer is footing the bill for some aides to be trolling the country posing as the President.

You say so ...

DOGE needs to thin out the White House aides.

You guys chased off DOGE, remember?


No, Elon just got rid of whoever had oversight on his companies, then they went away....

Uh huh.

Sure and that's a fairy tale.
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MOU 2.0



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boognish_bear said:



I cant wait for a great June 2026! We will be so benefited with this totally real and not at all made up end to a war we started for no clear reason and no clear plan to end!

Gotta try and bandaid it together another ~12 weeks to hopefully not get totally screwed in the midterms.
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Oldbear83 said:

See your doctor if you keep posting like that one.

Doctor? This may be the weakest reply I have seen on Baylorfans/ Sic 'Em in 25 years. I know now that you would swallow a grenade to save Trump. You are a martyr for Trump. It sickens my stomach.
Call it a tax, the people are outraged! Call it a tariff, the people get out their checkbooks and wave their American flags!!!
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