President Trump announces military strikes on Iran: Operation Epic Fury

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FLBear5630
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boognish_bear said:




weak?

this is the SpecOp crowd, they believe SEALs can beat Iran. any ground war, like Iraq and Kuwait, will be won with infantry and armor, it is a nightmare we should not be contemplating.

https://www.cato.org/commentary/ground-war-iran-would-be-hell-escalation-gift-americas-enemies
J.R.
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To put the current war status in simple terms. Trump is effed, we are effed. He has NO good way out. Nice, plan there Cheeto.
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https://www.thenationalnews.com/news/gulf/2026/08/09/oman-condemns-ship-attacks-as-iran-sets-conditions-to-reopen-strait/

It really seems like Iran is on its own

Pretty much confirms what Trump is saying in that there are different factions functioning in Iran
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Iran would never tolerate a fruitcake of a leader
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FLBear5630 said:

boognish_bear said:




weak?

this is the SpecOp crowd, they believe SEALs can beat Iran. any ground war, like Iraq and Kuwait, will be won with infantry and armor, it is a nightmare we should not be contemplating.

https://www.cato.org/commentary/ground-war-iran-would-be-hell-escalation-gift-americas-enemies

.... unless .....

- Gen UF

.... p*Swine p*Jumpers.

D!!!

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{ gnoshing INTREPIDITY }


pro ecclesia, pro javelina
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If we assume Iran is not going to agree to reasonable terms, we simply have to get the other Gulf States involved. They seem about there. The US going it alone will not get it done.
FLBear5630
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Danielsjackson114 said:

https://www.thenationalnews.com/news/gulf/2026/08/09/oman-condemns-ship-attacks-as-iran-sets-conditions-to-reopen-strait/

It really seems like Iran is on its own

Pretty much confirms what Trump is saying in that there are different factions functioning in Iran

The problem is the terrain. It is a mountainous over 50%. The major population and power locations are inland, not on the coast. It is huge, 4 times bigger than Iraq. To put in better perspective, think of a 2.5 times larger Afghanistan. We could not occupy all of Afghanistan or get rid of the Taliban. And they were primitive compared to Iran, who have very good engineering and tech.

There is a reason Iran has stayed in power being the pain in the ass that they are for this long. It is not weak minded Presidents.

Invading Iran is a bad idea...
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boognish_bear said:



The Pentagon is now giving defense contractors 21 days to come up with ways to dramatically accelerate weapons production as the Iran war continues to eat through U.S. stockpiles.

Deputy Defense Secretary Steve Feinberg directed industry to propose faster delivery schedules, increased production and investments in new manufacturing capacity.

The scale of the depletion is significant. The Pentagon says the U.S. has expended more than 850 Tomahawks, 1,000 Patriot/THAAD interceptors and 1,300 tactical ballistic missiles in the early stages of the war.

A CSIS estimate cited by the Washington Post puts global Patriot inventories at under 827, down from roughly 2,200 before the war, while THAAD inventories have fallen from 452 to fewer than 278.

The Pentagon has announced framework agreements to expand production, including the recent effort to triple PAC-3 production and quadruple production of key THAAD components. But these agreements still require congressional funding.

Million dollar American made missiles taking out $20,000 Iranian fiberglass drones. So much winning!!!

https://asiatimes.com/2026/04/us-stuck-using-1-million-missiles-against-irans-20000-drones/


Call it a tax, the people are outraged! Call it a tariff, the people get out their checkbooks and wave their American flags!!!
Porteroso
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Just need to commit to buying more MOABs and bomb the Iranian nuclear facilities every 6 months, then create a coalition to rotate ships to keep the Strait open. Has to be cheaper than what we are doing. Can't win a ground invasion, so just prevent them from building a military or nukes, and protect the oil.

If only there was someplace to record what we have tried here, so we don't have to make such a costly mistake again.

Maybe we, the people, could vote for candidates who will not get us into long term unwinnable wars. Just some ideas I have rattling around.
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Porteroso said:



Maybe we, the people, could vote for candidates who will not get us into long term unwinnable wars. Just some ideas I have rattling around.

Isn't that exactly what a lot of TRUMP voters thought they were voting for in the first place?
Gunter gleiben glauchen globen
FLBear5630
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fubar said:

Porteroso said:



Maybe we, the people, could vote for candidates who will not get us into long term unwinnable wars. Just some ideas I have rattling around.

Isn't that exactly what a lot of TRUMP voters thought they were voting for in the first place?

Trump ran on no forever wars, no stupid wars and if Harris won we would go to war with Iran which he called stupid.

Stupid is as Stupid does...



Trump blasts Harris on Iran, says Biden administration is 'leading us to brink of World War III' - POLITICO
boognish_bear
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Porteroso said:



Maybe we, the people, could vote for candidates who will not get us into long term unwinnable wars. Just some ideas I have rattling around.


The kicker here is that Trump advertised himself as one who would not get into this war... and as a added bonus would stop the Russia/Ukraine war.

(Edit: just saw fubar already made this observation)
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FLBear5630 said:

Danielsjackson114 said:

https://www.thenationalnews.com/news/gulf/2026/08/09/oman-condemns-ship-attacks-as-iran-sets-conditions-to-reopen-strait/

It really seems like Iran is on its own

Pretty much confirms what Trump is saying in that there are different factions functioning in Iran

The problem is the terrain. It is a mountainous over 50%. The major population and power locations are inland, not on the coast. It is huge, 4 times bigger than Iraq. To put in better perspective, think of a 2.5 times larger Afghanistan. We could not occupy all of Afghanistan or get rid of the Taliban. And they were primitive compared to Iran, who have very good engineering and tech.

There is a reason Iran has stayed in power being the pain in the ass that they are for this long. It is not weak minded Presidents.

Invading Iran is a bad idea...

In the history of ideas, invading Iran with ground forces at this point in time would compete for the title of Worst Idea Ever. We have no allies backing that plan. Just getting enough boots on Iranian soil would be a Herculean task. It would take months, even if we had a regional ally willing to let us launch an invasion from their territory. (Look at a map and tell me the easy route just to land and assemble our troops in preparation for this fiasco.) Once in Iran, as you noted, slogging through mountains to get anywhere would be ... uhh ... difficult. The cost to do all of this would be astronomic.

And this at a time, if the reports are accurate, when our Strategic Petroleum Reserves are already at historic lows.

TRUMP said in June 2025 that we "obliterated" Iran's nuclear program, yet we started this hootenanny in February 2026 to do just that. Again. JD Vance said the other day that we've succeeded in that.

So call it a win -- the yugest win in recorded history, if it makes you feel better -- and get out.
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Lisa Boothe, in a rare moment of pushback, asks Amb. Mike Huckabee why America's efforts against Iran don't seem to be working.

He insists the Iranian regime "is weaker than it has been in 47 years," but then notes how the range of their ballistic missiles is longer than ever.

"Their missile capacity, unfortunately, has grown."
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