President Trump announces military strikes on Iran: Operation Epic Fury

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In reply to boognish_bear • 2:07a, 8/9/26
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weak?

this is the SpecOp crowd, they believe SEALs can beat Iran. any ground war, like Iraq and Kuwait, will be won with infantry and armor, it is a nightmare we should not be contemplating.

https://www.cato.org/commentary/ground-war-iran-would-be-hell-escalation-gift-americas-enemies
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6:07a, 8/9/26
To put the current war status in simple terms. Trump is effed, we are effed. He has NO good way out. Nice, plan there Cheeto.
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6:48a, 8/9/26
https://www.thenationalnews.com/news/gulf/2026/08/09/oman-condemns-ship-attacks-as-iran-sets-conditions-to-reopen-strait/

It really seems like Iran is on its own

Pretty much confirms what Trump is saying in that there are different factions functioning in Iran
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6:51a, 8/9/26


Iran would never tolerate a fruitcake of a leader
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In reply to FLBear5630 • 7:12a, 8/9/26
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boognish_bear said:


weak?

this is the SpecOp crowd, they believe SEALs can beat Iran. any ground war, like Iraq and Kuwait, will be won with infantry and armor, it is a nightmare we should not be contemplating.

https://www.cato.org/commentary/ground-war-iran-would-be-hell-escalation-gift-americas-enemies

.... unless .....

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9:09a, 8/9/26
If we assume Iran is not going to agree to reasonable terms, we simply have to get the other Gulf States involved. They seem about there. The US going it alone will not get it done.
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In reply to Danielsjackson114 • 9:12a, 8/9/26
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https://www.thenationalnews.com/news/gulf/2026/08/09/oman-condemns-ship-attacks-as-iran-sets-conditions-to-reopen-strait/

It really seems like Iran is on its own

Pretty much confirms what Trump is saying in that there are different factions functioning in Iran

The problem is the terrain. It is a mountainous over 50%. The major population and power locations are inland, not on the coast. It is huge, 4 times bigger than Iraq. To put in better perspective, think of a 2.5 times larger Afghanistan. We could not occupy all of Afghanistan or get rid of the Taliban. And they were primitive compared to Iran, who have very good engineering and tech.

There is a reason Iran has stayed in power being the pain in the ass that they are for this long. It is not weak minded Presidents.

Invading Iran is a bad idea...
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The Pentagon is now giving defense contractors 21 days to come up with ways to dramatically accelerate weapons production as the Iran war continues to eat through U.S. stockpiles.

Deputy Defense Secretary Steve Feinberg directed industry to propose faster delivery schedules, increased production and investments in new manufacturing capacity.

The scale of the depletion is significant. The Pentagon says the U.S. has expended more than 850 Tomahawks, 1,000 Patriot/THAAD interceptors and 1,300 tactical ballistic missiles in the early stages of the war.

A CSIS estimate cited by the Washington Post puts global Patriot inventories at under 827, down from roughly 2,200 before the war, while THAAD inventories have fallen from 452 to fewer than 278.

The Pentagon has announced framework agreements to expand production, including the recent effort to triple PAC-3 production and quadruple production of key THAAD components. But these agreements still require congressional funding.

Million dollar American made missiles taking out $20,000 Iranian fiberglass drones. So much winning!!!

https://asiatimes.com/2026/04/us-stuck-using-1-million-missiles-against-irans-20000-drones/


Call it a tax, the people are outraged! Call it a tariff, the people get out their checkbooks and wave their American flags!!!
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10:00a, 8/9/26
Just need to commit to buying more MOABs and bomb the Iranian nuclear facilities every 6 months, then create a coalition to rotate ships to keep the Strait open. Has to be cheaper than what we are doing. Can't win a ground invasion, so just prevent them from building a military or nukes, and protect the oil.

If only there was someplace to record what we have tried here, so we don't have to make such a costly mistake again.

Maybe we, the people, could vote for candidates who will not get us into long term unwinnable wars. Just some ideas I have rattling around.
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In reply to Porteroso • 10:50a, 8/9/26
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Maybe we, the people, could vote for candidates who will not get us into long term unwinnable wars. Just some ideas I have rattling around.

Isn't that exactly what a lot of TRUMP voters thought they were voting for in the first place?
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In reply to fubar • 10:59a, 8/9/26
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Porteroso said:


Maybe we, the people, could vote for candidates who will not get us into long term unwinnable wars. Just some ideas I have rattling around.

Isn't that exactly what a lot of TRUMP voters thought they were voting for in the first place?

Trump ran on no forever wars, no stupid wars and if Harris won we would go to war with Iran which he called stupid.

Stupid is as Stupid does...



Trump blasts Harris on Iran, says Biden administration is 'leading us to brink of World War III' - POLITICO
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In reply to Porteroso • 11:14a, 8/9/26
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Maybe we, the people, could vote for candidates who will not get us into long term unwinnable wars. Just some ideas I have rattling around.


The kicker here is that Trump advertised himself as one who would not get into this war... and as a added bonus would stop the Russia/Ukraine war.

(Edit: just saw fubar already made this observation)
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In reply to FLBear5630 • 11:17a, 8/9/26
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Danielsjackson114 said:
https://www.thenationalnews.com/news/gulf/2026/08/09/oman-condemns-ship-attacks-as-iran-sets-conditions-to-reopen-strait/

It really seems like Iran is on its own

Pretty much confirms what Trump is saying in that there are different factions functioning in Iran

The problem is the terrain. It is a mountainous over 50%. The major population and power locations are inland, not on the coast. It is huge, 4 times bigger than Iraq. To put in better perspective, think of a 2.5 times larger Afghanistan. We could not occupy all of Afghanistan or get rid of the Taliban. And they were primitive compared to Iran, who have very good engineering and tech.

There is a reason Iran has stayed in power being the pain in the ass that they are for this long. It is not weak minded Presidents.

Invading Iran is a bad idea...

In the history of ideas, invading Iran with ground forces at this point in time would compete for the title of Worst Idea Ever. We have no allies backing that plan. Just getting enough boots on Iranian soil would be a Herculean task. It would take months, even if we had a regional ally willing to let us launch an invasion from their territory. (Look at a map and tell me the easy route just to land and assemble our troops in preparation for this fiasco.) Once in Iran, as you noted, slogging through mountains to get anywhere would be ... uhh ... difficult. The cost to do all of this would be astronomic.

And this at a time, if the reports are accurate, when our Strategic Petroleum Reserves are already at historic lows.

TRUMP said in June 2025 that we "obliterated" Iran's nuclear program, yet we started this hootenanny in February 2026 to do just that. Again. JD Vance said the other day that we've succeeded in that.

So call it a win -- the yugest win in recorded history, if it makes you feel better -- and get out.
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Lisa Boothe, in a rare moment of pushback, asks Amb. Mike Huckabee why America's efforts against Iran don't seem to be working.

He insists the Iranian regime "is weaker than it has been in 47 years," but then notes how the range of their ballistic missiles is longer than ever.

"Their missile capacity, unfortunately, has grown."
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In reply to fubar • 11:56a, 8/9/26
fubar said:
FLBear5630 said:
Danielsjackson114 said:
https://www.thenationalnews.com/news/gulf/2026/08/09/oman-condemns-ship-attacks-as-iran-sets-conditions-to-reopen-strait/

It really seems like Iran is on its own

Pretty much confirms what Trump is saying in that there are different factions functioning in Iran

The problem is the terrain. It is a mountainous over 50%. The major population and power locations are inland, not on the coast. It is huge, 4 times bigger than Iraq. To put in better perspective, think of a 2.5 times larger Afghanistan. We could not occupy all of Afghanistan or get rid of the Taliban. And they were primitive compared to Iran, who have very good engineering and tech.

There is a reason Iran has stayed in power being the pain in the ass that they are for this long. It is not weak minded Presidents.

Invading Iran is a bad idea...

In the history of ideas, invading Iran with ground forces at this point in time would compete for the title of Worst Idea Ever. We have no allies backing that plan. Just getting enough boots on Iranian soil would be a Herculean task. It would take months, even if we had a regional ally willing to let us launch an invasion from their territory. (Look at a map and tell me the easy route just to land and assemble our troops in preparation for this fiasco.) Once in Iran, as you noted, slogging through mountains to get anywhere would be ... uhh ... difficult. The cost to do all of this would be astronomic.

And this at a time, if the reports are accurate, when our Strategic Petroleum Reserves are already at historic lows.

TRUMP said in June 2025 that we "obliterated" Iran's nuclear program, yet we started this hootenanny in February 2026 to do just that. Again. JD Vance said the other day that we've succeeded in that.

So call it a win -- the yugest win in recorded history, if it makes you feel better -- and get out.

You can't, the mountains form a bowl. There are no good landing areas to stage. Any inland route would be tough. Look at the Iran/Iraq war, there is a reason it was fought where it was. Airborne and SpecOps can take and hold airports, that is great for in and out but not the heavy armor your going to need.

This is what Iran wants...
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In reply to Sam Lowry • 1:07p, 8/9/26
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EatMoreSalmon said:
Sam Lowry said:
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Sam Lowry said:
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Keep bugling things that do not matter. The Straits, for the near future, matter. The rest does not, they never had a navy, air force or nuclear program that were significant.

Obviously your statement here is not truth.

https://www.frstrategie.org/en/publications/notes/irgc-navy-s-long-term-strategy-asymmetrical-warfare-2024

Iranian missiles dominate Iranian air forces and are still operating. They have over the last 5 years struck Israel, Pakistan, and other surrounding countries.

Nuclear program has been an issue for years as they hid their research and development and enrichment.


This doesn't include their support of proxies in multiple areas.

Supporting proxies is a definite deal-breaker. No way can you negotiate with a government that does that.

We are talking the strength of Iranian military power, or did you miss that?

Iran never had significant air or naval power of the kind we're claiming to have destroyed. Dominant missile power and asymmetric naval power, sure, all of which remains.


Read above. You're wrong.

Your link is telling you the same thing I'm telling you. They rely primarily on asymmetrical defense with low-cost, small or medium-sized vessels.


No. They prepared heavily where they could be most effective. You're not reading well.

I don't think you understand what you're reading, but in any case, the destruction of their air and naval forces obviously hasn't had the desired effect.


Your last thought is correct. Your first thought is still wrong. The only reason you can say that is because we didn't wait for an extinction event to get after them. Hubris can enter peace desiring people when they believe the "little" guy with the unexpected weapon can't hurt them.
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BREAKING: Trump is backing off his threats of military action against Iran, telling Axios that the U.S. is "low keying it" and "only semi-negotiating" with the regime.

"We are only semi-negotiating with them. We are just watching Iran with its huge inflation and the fact they have no money."

Trump says Iran is in "very bad shape" economically and has no money to pay its troops. He says the U.S. naval blockade has worsened the crisis.

"It will work out. It always works out. It's like a chess game."
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BREAKING: Trump is backing off his threats of military action against Iran, telling Axios that the U.S. is "low keying it" and "only semi-negotiating" with the regime.

"We are only semi-negotiating with them. We are just watching Iran with its huge inflation and the fact they have no money."

Trump says Iran is in "very bad shape" economically and has no money to pay its troops. He says the U.S. naval blockade has worsened the crisis.

"It will work out. It always works out. It's like a chess game."


Like clockwork.

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In reply to 303Bear • 3:13p, 8/9/26
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boognish_bear said:


BREAKING: Trump is backing off his threats of military action against Iran, telling Axios that the U.S. is "low keying it" and "only semi-negotiating" with the regime.

"We are only semi-negotiating with them. We are just watching Iran with its huge inflation and the fact they have no money."

Trump says Iran is in "very bad shape" economically and has no money to pay its troops. He says the U.S. naval blockade has worsened the crisis.

"It will work out. It always works out. It's like a chess game."


Like clockwork.


It's Sunday... Time for hope, hear that markets? Eric and Donny have their orders in...
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In reply to 303Bear • 3:13p, 8/9/26
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boognish_bear said:


BREAKING: Trump is backing off his threats of military action against Iran, telling Axios that the U.S. is "low keying it" and "only semi-negotiating" with the regime.

"We are only semi-negotiating with them. We are just watching Iran with its huge inflation and the fact they have no money."

Trump says Iran is in "very bad shape" economically and has no money to pay its troops. He says the U.S. naval blockade has worsened the crisis.

"It will work out. It always works out. It's like a chess game."


Like clockwork.


It's probably the best move. Clocks are all right twice per day. I mean, look at our stockpiles and debt. You know they are hurting too. Printing money doesn't have the same effect if you are Iran instead of the USA. A welcome change to use economics instead of bombs. I will concede that it is the use of bombs first, that makes economics so effective.
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BREAKING: Trump is backing off his threats of military action against Iran, telling Axios that the U.S. is "low keying it" and "only semi-negotiating" with the regime.

"We are only semi-negotiating with them. We are just watching Iran with its huge inflation and the fact they have no money."

Trump says Iran is in "very bad shape" economically and has no money to pay its troops. He says the U.S. naval blockade has worsened the crisis.

"It will work out. It always works out. It's like a chess game."
So he doesn't even understand 2D chess.
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In reply to Porteroso • 4:05p, 8/9/26
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303Bear said:
boognish_bear said:


BREAKING: Trump is backing off his threats of military action against Iran, telling Axios that the U.S. is "low keying it" and "only semi-negotiating" with the regime.

"We are only semi-negotiating with them. We are just watching Iran with its huge inflation and the fact they have no money."

Trump says Iran is in "very bad shape" economically and has no money to pay its troops. He says the U.S. naval blockade has worsened the crisis.

"It will work out. It always works out. It's like a chess game."


Like clockwork.


It's probably the best move. Clocks are all right twice per day. I mean, look at our stockpiles and debt. You know they are hurting too. Printing money doesn't have the same effect if you are Iran instead of the USA. A welcome change to use economics instead of bombs. I will concede that it is the use of bombs first, that makes economics so effective.

You are more generous that I am at this point that the goal of the on-again-off-again nature of strikes every weekend has the goal of doing anything other than pumping the value of options contracts.
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In reply to 303Bear • 4:41p, 8/9/26
Weird that you have never said anything about the left's golden boy, Fauxi, releasing a contagious virus then profiting off of it.

But I expect nothing else from a lunatic fool from Colorado electing DSA candidates lmao
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In reply to Danielsjackson114 • 4:58p, 8/9/26
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Weird that you have never said anything about the left's golden boy, Fauxi, releasing a contagious virus then profiting off of it.

But I expect nothing else from a lunatic fool from Colorado electing DSA candidates lmao


Weirder still that you and so many others here cannot defend anything this administration is doing without resorting to non sequitur what-aboutism.

Democrats generally suck and Fauci is a questionable human that probably did unethical and harmful things related to Covid. That has no impact on, nor does it diminish in any way that we have an incompetent, grifting boob in the Oval Office. I don't expect you to recognize this, since it requires understanding of nuance and the acknowledgment that two or more things can be true at once. Unfortunately, your last too remaking brain cells are locked in the struggle for third place, so you are excused from engaging in anything approaching critical thought.

Edit: lol at you changing the post after realizing I have vey much called out Fauci. Not only are you a moron you are also a chicken*****

Edit 2: now you changed it back. So I'll assume you're just a moron.
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To steal a line from the Sopranos: and on and on it goes, this thing of ours.
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Yeah, who is the ***** in this relationship.
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303Bear said:
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BREAKING: Trump is backing off his threats of military action against Iran, telling Axios that the U.S. is "low keying it" and "only semi-negotiating" with the regime.

"We are only semi-negotiating with them. We are just watching Iran with its huge inflation and the fact they have no money."

Trump says Iran is in "very bad shape" economically and has no money to pay its troops. He says the U.S. naval blockade has worsened the crisis.

"It will work out. It always works out. It's like a chess game."


Like clockwork.


It's Sunday... Time for hope, hear that markets? Eric and Donny have their orders in...

got mine in! Long this Sunday, Monday here. Usually short on Sunday, but bombs be flying.
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Did they run out of the first batch from NK?
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When you lose a war, you don't get to dictate terms to the other side.

Venezuela, Ukraine, Iraq, and Vietnam did not have the ability to destroy our economy.

Iran does have that ability.
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cut them off today. period. eff Bibi. He is nothing more than a criminal like Trump.
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Ukraine is a seasoning ground. They are bloodying troops. Watch history repeat, Lorraine is Spain of the 30's.
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fubar said:
Porteroso said:


Maybe we, the people, could vote for candidates who will not get us into long term unwinnable wars. Just some ideas I have rattling around.

Isn't that exactly what a lot of TRUMP voters thought they were voting for in the first place?

Trump ran on no forever wars, no stupid wars and if Harris won we would go to war with Iran which he called stupid.

Stupid is as Stupid does...



Trump blasts Harris on Iran, says Biden administration is 'leading us to brink of World War III' - POLITICO

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