President Trump announces military strikes on Iran: Operation Epic Fury

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I'm so confused why we are attempting to make a deal in a war that we won. Don't we dictate the stipulations now?


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BearFan33 said:

Sam's not wrong about our base being destroyed in Bahrain. But if that's the price we got to pay (structural damage and no loss of life) for a nuclear bomb free Iran...


Then there's reality.

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Realitybites said:

BearFan33 said:

Sam's not wrong about our base being destroyed in Bahrain. But if that's the price we got to pay (structural damage and no loss of life) for a nuclear bomb free Iran...


Then there's reality.



That's great. The internet is forever.
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Sweet Donny Baby - A Man at WAR!

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Oldbear83 said:

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I think my cringe just cringed.

If he spent half the time actually planning the war as he has posting AI slop videos and images about it, maybe we would have something to actually celebrate.


It is unlikely that he posts all the things he posts.
If it were up to me, he would not post anything.

I truly believe someone on the staff, maybe multiple people, are sending those posts.

Prolly just to see certain folks blow a gasket overreacting.




The posts are his whether he put them together or not.

If you are saying the posts are going out on his account without his knowledge I'd like to remind you of y'all's autopen meltdown
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Economic WAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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quash said:

Oldbear83 said:

D. C. Bear said:

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boognish_bear said:




I think my cringe just cringed.

If he spent half the time actually planning the war as he has posting AI slop videos and images about it, maybe we would have something to actually celebrate.


It is unlikely that he posts all the things he posts.
If it were up to me, he would not post anything.

I truly believe someone on the staff, maybe multiple people, are sending those posts.

Prolly just to see certain folks blow a gasket overreacting.




The posts are his whether he put them together or not.

If you are saying the posts are going out on his account without his knowledge I'd like to remind you of y'all's autopen meltdown



I absolutely believe he's responsible for all of those posts whether he personally post them or not. Having said that, the idea that social media posts being done by a random and possibly drunk intern on the one hand and somebody other than the president choosing who gets pardoned on the other hand being the same thing? That's nuts. Those are not differences of degree, they are differences of kind.
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His new Paramore (side piece) Natalie Harp is responsible for all posts. He dictates, she creates. This relationship with all these love notes laying around the West Wing is creep. So creepy, the FBI was concerned. Many say ole Sugar Tits Karoline Leavitt quit on account of her and not baby. Go Donnie. Oh , where is that former Escort supplied by Epstein, First Lady been. She mad at you Donnie? Oh, actually, it is widely reported she effing hates you and that is why she lives in NY.
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J.R. said:

His new Paramore (side piece) Natalie Harp is responsible for all posts. He dictates, she creates. This relationship with all these love notes laying around the West Wing is creep. So creepy, the FBI was concerned. Many say ole Sugar Tits Karoline Leavitt quit on account of her and not baby. Go Donnie. Oh , where is that former Escort supplied by Epstein, First Lady been. She mad at you Donnie? Oh, actually, it is widely reported she effing hates you and that is why she lives in NY.

Aside from terminal TDS delusion, I'm curious what your source is for all this "insider" knowledge(?).
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The US at WAR ...........

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Bond yields head higher again, giving back almost all gains since Treasury Department intervention

U.S. Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent. (Finn Gomez/Getty Images)

Today's Takeaway is by Senior Reporter Claire Boston.

Stocks shrugged it off, but bond yields moved higher for a second straight day on Friday, the latest sign that the US Treasury's intervention efforts have been a bust.

The 10-year (^TNX) and 30-year Treasury yields (^TYX) snapped back to previously held higher levels.

On Wednesday, the Treasury said it would "at least double" the amount of 10-year, 20-year, and 30-year Treasury bonds it buys back. A day later, Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent signaled he could expand the purchases further. The operation is set to begin on Sept. 9 and remain effective through Nov. 4.

The US Department of the Treasury Building in Washington, D.C., U.S., July 11, 2026. REUTERS/Daniel Heuer

Bond market watchers have been skeptical that the Treasury's plan to lower yields by boosting long-dated bond buying would work. Multiple factors outside of the Treasury's control, including inflation fears, Federal Reserve communication changes, and a boom in corporate debt issuance, have contributed to higher yields.

"We believe these measures will struggle to offset either declining Fed credibility or rising rate expectations," BNP strategists led by Guneet Dhingra wrote in a note this week.

The intervention complicates the task facing Fed Chairman Kevin Warsh, who has suggested that he welcomes the higher yields as a way to raise borrowing costs and tighten policy through markets, rather than the Fed having to raise short-term rates itself.

"We have the Fed and the Treasury basically working in sort of opposite directions," Wilmington Trust senior bond portfolio manager Wil Stith told Yahoo Finance. "I think that's just going to require the Fed, which has the larger sandbox, to sort of adjust the target fed funds rate more so than it would have."

The Treasury Department also released data this week showing that the US national debt had topped $40 trillion, poor timing as it was trying to sell markets on its plan to issue new debt to buy back old debt.

"The Treasury Department is calling this a 'debt buyback.' But they're not reducing the debt. They're running huge deficits, buying back old bonds, and issuing even more new ones. This is debt reshuffling, not debt reduction," Charlie Bilello, chief market strategist at Creative Planning, posted on X.
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J.R. said:

His new Paramore (side piece) Natalie Harp is responsible for all posts. He dictates, she creates. This relationship with all these love notes laying around the West Wing is creep. So creepy, the FBI was concerned. Many say ole Sugar Tits Karoline Leavitt quit on account of her and not baby. Go Donnie. Oh , where is that former Escort supplied by Epstein, First Lady been. She mad at you Donnie? Oh, actually, it is widely reported she effing hates you and that is why she lives in NY.



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Chacoan peccary
From Wikipedia


Conservation status
Endangered
Endangered (IUCN 3.1)[1]
CITES Appendix I[2]
Scientific classificationEdit this classification
Kingdom: Animalia
Phylum: Chordata
Class: Mammalia
Infraclass: Placentalia
Order: Artiodactyla
Family: Tayassuidae
Genus: Catagonus
Species: C. wagneri
Binomial name
Catagonus wagneri
(Carlos Rusconi, 1930)

Synonyms
Parachoerus wagneri Rusconi, 1930

The Chacoan peccary (Catagonus wagneri), also called the tagu, is a peccary found in the Gran Chaco of Paraguay, Bolivia, and Argentina. It is the only extant species of genus Catagonus.[3] With a total estimated population of approximately 3,000, it is considered to be an endangered species.

History
The Chacoan peccary was first described in 1930 based on fossils and was originally thought to be an extinct species. In 1971, the animal was discovered to still be extant in the Argentine province of Salta. The species was well-known to the local people, but it took a while for Western scientists to acknowledge its existence. Because it was originally described as extinct before its rediscovery, it is an example of a Lazarus taxon.

Taxonomy
The Chacoan peccary is notable in that it is not the type species of its genus, Catagonus, despite being the only living representative. Instead, the type is the extinct Catagonus metropolitanus. Such a case is an example of a Lazarus taxon, and shares this trait with another South American native, the bush dog. The description of the Chacoan peccary was first published in 1975.[4]

A 2017 study on the phylogenetic systematics of Tayassuidae species suggests that Catagonus should only contain C. metropolitanus. The extinct narrow-headed peccary (C. stenocephalus) should be moved into Brasiliochoerus, while the Chacoan peccary, Catagonus bonaerensis and Catagonus carlesi should be placed in Parachoerus.[5] If this is accepted, then Catagonus becomes an extinct genus once more.

Habitat
The Chacoan peccary is confined to hot, dry areas. Dominated by low-lying succulents and thorny bushes, the Gran Chaco is about 140,000 km2. A few scattered giant trees are found, but the majority of the vegetation is thorny scrub vegetation. The Chacoan peccary has developed adaptations such as well-developed sinuses to combat dry, dusty conditions. Their feet are also small, which allows maneuverability among spiny plants.

Physical characteristics
The largest of the three generally accepted species of peccaries, the Chacoan peccary has many pig-like features. It is an ungulate with a well-formed rostrum with a tough leathery snout. The bristle-like hair is generally brown to almost gray. A dark stripe runs across the back, and white fur is on the shoulders. Chacoan peccaries differ from other peccary species by having longer ears, snouts, and tails. It has white h.....
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That's a good-looking p*swine.

Get those young 'uns signed up and in p*parachute p*training. Our country calls ....
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fubar said:

That's a good-looking p*swine.

Get those young 'uns signed up and in p*parachute p*training. Our country calls ....

... p*back p*when p*we p*was p*fab.................

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p*Those p*were p*the p*days

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Johnny Bear said:

J.R. said:

His new Paramore (side piece) Natalie Harp is responsible for all posts. He dictates, she creates. This relationship with all these love notes laying around the West Wing is creep. So creepy, the FBI was concerned. Many say ole Sugar Tits Karoline Leavitt quit on account of her and not baby. Go Donnie. Oh , where is that former Escort supplied by Epstein, First Lady been. She mad at you Donnie? Oh, actually, it is widely reported she effing hates you and that is why she lives in NY.

Aside from terminal TDS delusion, I'm curious what your source is for all this "insider" knowledge(?).

I have TIS (Trump Incompetence Syndrome) and it's acting up. The Melanie being an Escort is public knowledge. Melania living in NYC is a fact. Melania's hatred for her husband, she got on out. The new side piece and the innuendo is all over. No knowledge, but so predictable. Have you read the gross notes she left Piggy around the west wing. yuk, just yuk.
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william said:

J.R. said:

His new Paramore (side piece) Natalie Harp is responsible for all posts. He dictates, she creates. This relationship with all these love notes laying around the West Wing is creep. So creepy, the FBI was concerned. Many say ole Sugar Tits Karoline Leavitt quit on account of her and not baby. Go Donnie. Oh , where is that former Escort supplied by Epstein, First Lady been. She mad at you Donnie? Oh, actually, it is widely reported she effing hates you and that is why she lives in NY.



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Chacoan peccary
From Wikipedia


Conservation status
Endangered
Endangered (IUCN 3.1)[1]
CITES Appendix I[2]
Scientific classificationEdit this classification
Kingdom: Animalia
Phylum: Chordata
Class: Mammalia
Infraclass: Placentalia
Order: Artiodactyla
Family: Tayassuidae
Genus: Catagonus
Species: C. wagneri
Binomial name
Catagonus wagneri
(Carlos Rusconi, 1930)

Synonyms
Parachoerus wagneri Rusconi, 1930

The Chacoan peccary (Catagonus wagneri), also called the tagu, is a peccary found in the Gran Chaco of Paraguay, Bolivia, and Argentina. It is the only extant species of genus Catagonus.[3] With a total estimated population of approximately 3,000, it is considered to be an endangered species.

History
The Chacoan peccary was first described in 1930 based on fossils and was originally thought to be an extinct species. In 1971, the animal was discovered to still be extant in the Argentine province of Salta. The species was well-known to the local people, but it took a while for Western scientists to acknowledge its existence. Because it was originally described as extinct before its rediscovery, it is an example of a Lazarus taxon.

Taxonomy
The Chacoan peccary is notable in that it is not the type species of its genus, Catagonus, despite being the only living representative. Instead, the type is the extinct Catagonus metropolitanus. Such a case is an example of a Lazarus taxon, and shares this trait with another South American native, the bush dog. The description of the Chacoan peccary was first published in 1975.[4]

A 2017 study on the phylogenetic systematics of Tayassuidae species suggests that Catagonus should only contain C. metropolitanus. The extinct narrow-headed peccary (C. stenocephalus) should be moved into Brasiliochoerus, while the Chacoan peccary, Catagonus bonaerensis and Catagonus carlesi should be placed in Parachoerus.[5] If this is accepted, then Catagonus becomes an extinct genus once more.

Habitat
The Chacoan peccary is confined to hot, dry areas. Dominated by low-lying succulents and thorny bushes, the Gran Chaco is about 140,000 km2. A few scattered giant trees are found, but the majority of the vegetation is thorny scrub vegetation. The Chacoan peccary has developed adaptations such as well-developed sinuses to combat dry, dusty conditions. Their feet are also small, which allows maneuverability among spiny plants.

Physical characteristics
The largest of the three generally accepted species of peccaries, the Chacoan peccary has many pig-like features. It is an ungulate with a well-formed rostrum with a tough leathery snout. The bristle-like hair is generally brown to almost gray. A dark stripe runs across the back, and white fur is on the shoulders. Chacoan peccaries differ from other peccary species by having longer ears, snouts, and tails. It has white h.....
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dr my swine
tell me what I smell
vaguely porcine
so it must be a peccary......



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boognish_bear said:



The key statement in that entire article is this: "Traffic remains well below the levels recorded during the brief memorandum-of-understanding period from June 15 through mid-July."

So we haven't even returned to MOU levels of traffic, let alone pre war levels.
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TRUMP ABOUT TO SHOVE SANCTIONS UP THAT AZZ

ALOT OF INTERVIEWS OF IRAN LEADER GETTING NERVOUS

LET'S GOOOOOO
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How can TRUMP not give himself The Medal of Honor now? He's personally defeated Iran, like, 15 times. He's executing Economic D-Day, and he hasn't died like so many of those suckers did on a different (and far less dangerous!) D-Day. Traffic through the Strait of Hormuz is up 400%!

And all this while cavorting with a new blond and winning multiple golf majors.
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Realitybites said:

boognish_bear said:



The key statement in that entire article is this: "Traffic remains well below the levels recorded during the brief memorandum-of-understanding period from June 15 through mid-July."

So we haven't even returned to MOU levels of traffic, let alone pre war levels.

200 ships last week is ~25% of the average weekly traffic before the war. Better, and hope it continues to improve, but nowhere near enough to start to reverse the shortages caused over the last 6 months.
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I AGREE

MUCH BETTER THAN GRANDPA JOE HAVING HIS EYE LIDS TAPED OPEN, AND SHOT UP WITH AN UPPER TO SEEM SOMEWHAT COGNIZANT. ALL THE WHILE, A MACHINE FORGES HIS SIGNATURE BECAUSE HE HASNT WOKEN UP FROM HIS NAPPY TIME UNDER THE WHITE HOUSE
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303Bear said:

Realitybites said:

boognish_bear said:



The key statement in that entire article is this: "Traffic remains well below the levels recorded during the brief memorandum-of-understanding period from June 15 through mid-July."

So we haven't even returned to MOU levels of traffic, let alone pre war levels.

200 ships last week is ~25% of the average weekly traffic before the war. Better, and hope it continues to improve, but nowhere near enough to start to reverse the shortages caused over the last 6 months.

incorrect 10 went through last week 5 this weekend. Usual is 130
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J.R. said:

303Bear said:

Realitybites said:

boognish_bear said:



The key statement in that entire article is this: "Traffic remains well below the levels recorded during the brief memorandum-of-understanding period from June 15 through mid-July."

So we haven't even returned to MOU levels of traffic, let alone pre war levels.

200 ships last week is ~25% of the average weekly traffic before the war. Better, and hope it continues to improve, but nowhere near enough to start to reverse the shortages caused over the last 6 months.

incorrect 10 went through last week 5 this weekend. Usual is 130

My bad, meant month.

Regardless, its a weird flex to beat chests over a short term (who knows if it will be sustained) transit increases that still represent a mere fraction of what traffic was before we started shooting missiles.
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Realitybites said:

boognish_bear said:



The key statement in that entire article is this: "Traffic remains well below the levels recorded during the brief memorandum-of-understanding period from June 15 through mid-July."

So we haven't even returned to MOU levels of traffic, let alone pre war levels.


The question now would be, "How many ships are still held up trying to get through?" There should have been a rush of ships during the MOU that had been backing up while the strait was effectively closed.
The second question would be, "Will the strait be needed to support the prewar volume of shipping?"
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Danielsjackson114 said:

TRUMP ABOUT TO SHOVE SANCTIONS UP THAT AZZ

ALOT OF INTERVIEWS OF IRAN LEADER GETTING NERVOUS

LET'S GOOOOOO

Yawn! (Sonny & Cher singing I Got You Babe at 6:00 am. ) Rinse and repeat.
Call it a tax, the people are outraged! Call it a tariff, the people get out their checkbooks and wave their American flags!!!
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Danielsjackson114 said:

I AGREE

MUCH BETTER THAN GRANDPA JOE HAVING HIS EYE LIDS TAPED OPEN, AND SHOT UP WITH AN UPPER TO SEEM SOMEWHAT COGNIZANT. ALL THE WHILE, A MACHINE FORGES HIS SIGNATURE BECAUSE HE HASNT WOKEN UP FROM HIS NAPPY TIME UNDER THE WHITE HOUSE


How many weeks was the Straits shut under Biden?
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We're sending a different kind of Accountant.

That which does not kill me, will try again and get nastier
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WAR.
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Was regime change one of the original objectives when we entered this or just destruction of nuclear capability? Is the objective changing?



President Trump has dismantled Iran's military capabilities, destroyed nearly 100 percent of its military factories, and buried its nuclear program.

We are now entering the endgame. At dawn begins an economic D-Day the single greatest financial offensive ever marshaled against an adversary.

The Islamic Republic has subsisted by dressing extortion as security guarantees. It has drawn strength from a calculus that regards Iranian retaliation as certain and American enforcement as negotiable. Under President Trump, that era is over. And those who fear the danger of defying Tehran ought not to discount the cost of testing Washington.

The President has created the conditions to leverage every agency, every authority and action many assumed we would never summon. Our objective is to sever every economic lifeline that sustains the tyrannical regime until Tehran stands alone.
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boognish_bear said:

Was regime change one of the original objectives when we entered this or just destruction of nuclear capability? Is the objective changing?



President Trump has dismantled Iran's military capabilities, destroyed nearly 100 percent of its military factories, and buried its nuclear program.

We are now entering the endgame. At dawn begins an economic D-Day the single greatest financial offensive ever marshaled against an adversary.

The Islamic Republic has subsisted by dressing extortion as security guarantees. It has drawn strength from a calculus that regards Iranian retaliation as certain and American enforcement as negotiable. Under President Trump, that era is over. And those who fear the danger of defying Tehran ought not to discount the cost of testing Washington.

The President has created the conditions to leverage every agency, every authority and action many assumed we would never summon. Our objective is to sever every economic lifeline that sustains the tyrannical regime until Tehran stands alone.

TLDR: we're out of ammo.
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