President Trump announces military strikes on Iran: Operation Epic Fury

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cowboycwr
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boognish_bear said:



I thought he was going to name names from the files if they weren't released??????
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cowboycwr said:

boognish_bear said:



I thought he was going to name names from the files if they weren't released??????


He did.

Thomas Massie names 14 people he says should be investigated over Epstein
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Oldbear83 said:

Solid post, historian. Massie is running on pure spite now.

I get it, people sometimes try to do what they think is right, and if they don't succeed they implode and rage against those they feel 'betrayed' them.

I don't hate Mr. Massie, and I think he originally did have good intentions, but he is just blowing up bridges now.


Agreed. Now Massie is a pathetic has been.
“Incline my heart to your testimonies, and not to selfish gain!”
Psalm 119:36
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boognish_bear said:



Gas up here $0.30/gallon, which is unfortunate if not exactly staggering.

Diesel holding steady at $6/gallon
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historian said:

boognish_bear said:



Translation: loser GOP House member Thomas Massie introduced articles of impeachment in an act of grandstanding that has zero chance of accomplishing anything meaningful.

Has he started campaigning for Dem fruitcakes and traitors yet? His tantrum has reached John Cornyn levels. They are proving the primary voters correct in firing them.

I don't remember him doing this against Mayorkas or anybody on the Biden payroll. Massie fights against his own party harder than he does against the opposite party. Good riddance.
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The_barBEARian said:

cowboycwr said:

boognish_bear said:



I thought he was going to name names from the files if they weren't released??????


He did.

Thomas Massie names 14 people he says should be investigated over Epstein

No I meant didn't he say he say the files and was going to release the names he saw if the files weren't released?

There were a handful of members of Congress making this claim...... and none of them have said anything more than somebody should be "investigated" when they have claimed to have seen in the documents.
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Good point
“Incline my heart to your testimonies, and not to selfish gain!”
Psalm 119:36
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BearFan33 said:

historian said:

boognish_bear said:



Translation: loser GOP House member Thomas Massie introduced articles of impeachment in an act of grandstanding that has zero chance of accomplishing anything meaningful.

Has he started campaigning for Dem fruitcakes and traitors yet? His tantrum has reached John Cornyn levels. They are proving the primary voters correct in firing them.

I don't remember him doing this against Mayorkas or anybody on the Biden payroll. Massie fights against his own party harder than he does against the opposite party. Good riddance.

Impeachment is an extraordinary measure. Hegseth is more than deserving.
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BearFan33 said:

historian said:

boognish_bear said:



Translation: loser GOP House member Thomas Massie introduced articles of impeachment in an act of grandstanding that has zero chance of accomplishing anything meaningful.

Has he started campaigning for Dem fruitcakes and traitors yet? His tantrum has reached John Cornyn levels. They are proving the primary voters correct in firing them.

I don't remember him doing this against Mayorkas or anybody on the Biden payroll. Massie fights against his own party harder than he does against the opposite party. Good riddance.

Trump accused of raping a 13yrs old. Judge ordered FBI notes to that affect release now. Trump is done on so many level. He just needs to quit.
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Harrison Bergeron
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This continues to be an epic ****show.
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Harrison Bergeron said:

This continues to be an epic ****show.

Operation Epic ****Up. It's what you guys voted for.

In November, I'll vote like TRUMP is on the ballot. You?
Oldbear83
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I will vote for America.

That precludes voting for any Democrat, by definition.
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Harrison Bergeron said:

This continues to be an epic ****show.

That is inherent in war. Something our leaders forgot. Of course, it is something many American leaders have forgotten.
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Frank Galvin said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

This continues to be an epic ****show.

That is inherent in war. Something our leaders forgot. Of course, it is something many American leaders have forgotten.

Goes as far back as Madison, maybe even Jefferson, this assumption we will win easily.
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boognish_bear said:




I am not.

I hate this stupid war. I was ok with one time strikes against their nuke making sites.

If they get one they will use it. The fallout will be world wide.

Especially since the use would be against Israel which would use multiple against Iran.

Or worse it would be smuggled on a ship bound for the US and even if set off in a port before it is detected it would be a disaster.

Then he and everyone else would complain why didn't we do something.

But again no need for this constant war. Just attack nuke sites every time they try and build one.
boognish_bear
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This one was probably the best of our 12 Iran War wins so far

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cowboycwr said:

boognish_bear said:




I am not.

I hate this stupid war. I was ok with one time strikes against their nuke making sites.

If they get one they will use it. The fallout will be world wide.

Especially since the use would be against Israel which would use multiple against Iran.

Or worse it would be smuggled on a ship bound for the US and even if set off in a port before it is detected it would be a disaster.

Then he and everyone else would complain why didn't we do something.

But again no need for this constant war. Just attack nuke sites every time they try and build one.

You really think they would use it offensively? I don't. It would be used as a deterrent like everyone else does. Using it means the nuclear destruction of the Country. Same with North Korea. To them, it is a golden ticket NOT to be attacked or invaded.

If anything, this little endeavor or Trump's and Bibi's moves them and others closer to getting one. There biggest fear is invasion and we showed we will attack. I would be more concerned with China or Russia giving them the tech and even a working warhead than developing it themselves.

Very good article on Iran and nukes. Makes some very good points and approaches from a data and informational perspective.

What Happens If Iran Gets Nuclear Weapons? - The DEFCON Warning System - Since 1984
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Oldbear83 said:

I will vote for America.

That precludes voting for any Democrat, by definition.

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cowboycwr said:

boognish_bear said:



I thought he was going to name names from the files if they weren't released??????


He named a few. One I wasn't expecting. Tom Pritzger.
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FLBear5630 said:

cowboycwr said:

boognish_bear said:




I am not.

I hate this stupid war. I was ok with one time strikes against their nuke making sites.

If they get one they will use it. The fallout will be world wide.

Especially since the use would be against Israel which would use multiple against Iran.

Or worse it would be smuggled on a ship bound for the US and even if set off in a port before it is detected it would be a disaster.

Then he and everyone else would complain why didn't we do something.

But again no need for this constant war. Just attack nuke sites every time they try and build one.

You really think they would use it offensively? I don't. It would be used as a deterrent like everyone else does. Using it means the nuclear destruction of the Country. Same with North Korea. To them, it is a golden ticket NOT to be attacked or invaded.

If anything, this little endeavor or Trump's and Bibi's moves them and others closer to getting one. There biggest fear is invasion and we showed we will attack. I would be more concerned with China or Russia giving them the tech and even a working warhead than developing it themselves.

Very good article on Iran and nukes. Makes some very good points and approaches from a data and informational perspective.

What Happens If Iran Gets Nuclear Weapons? - The DEFCON Warning System - Since 1984

Yes.

They might not launch an ICBM or short range missile but they would probably do like they do with conventional weapons. Sell them to Syria, ISIS type groups, Hezbollah, etc. for that group to do a dirty bomb, truck bomb or plant a nuke in Israel or on a cargo ship bound for the US.
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Mitch Blood Green said:

cowboycwr said:

boognish_bear said:



I thought he was going to name names from the files if they weren't released??????


He named a few. One I wasn't expecting. Tom Pritzger.

And I guess it was a massive fail since nothing happened with those and it wasn't even enough of a name drop with saying what they did for it to be news.
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cowboycwr said:

FLBear5630 said:

cowboycwr said:

boognish_bear said:




I am not.

I hate this stupid war. I was ok with one time strikes against their nuke making sites.

If they get one they will use it. The fallout will be world wide.

Especially since the use would be against Israel which would use multiple against Iran.

Or worse it would be smuggled on a ship bound for the US and even if set off in a port before it is detected it would be a disaster.

Then he and everyone else would complain why didn't we do something.

But again no need for this constant war. Just attack nuke sites every time they try and build one.

You really think they would use it offensively? I don't. It would be used as a deterrent like everyone else does. Using it means the nuclear destruction of the Country. Same with North Korea. To them, it is a golden ticket NOT to be attacked or invaded.

If anything, this little endeavor or Trump's and Bibi's moves them and others closer to getting one. There biggest fear is invasion and we showed we will attack. I would be more concerned with China or Russia giving them the tech and even a working warhead than developing it themselves.

Very good article on Iran and nukes. Makes some very good points and approaches from a data and informational perspective.

What Happens If Iran Gets Nuclear Weapons? - The DEFCON Warning System - Since 1984

Yes.

They might not launch an ICBM or short range missile but they would probably do like they do with conventional weapons. Sell them to Syria, ISIS type groups, Hezbollah, etc. for that group to do a dirty bomb, truck bomb or plant a nuke in Israel or on a cargo ship bound for the US.

nukes? they would do conventional in a heart beat. Nukes, no. A proxy would result in same destruction. They want a deterrent, they like playing the games. Using nukes, them or a proxy, ends the games. They are loving the current games
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The idea that Iran wants to attack US soil with a nuke is completely absurd. Always has been.
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FLBear5630 said:

cowboycwr said:

boognish_bear said:




I am not.

I hate this stupid war. I was ok with one time strikes against their nuke making sites.

If they get one they will use it. The fallout will be world wide.

Especially since the use would be against Israel which would use multiple against Iran.

Or worse it would be smuggled on a ship bound for the US and even if set off in a port before it is detected it would be a disaster.

Then he and everyone else would complain why didn't we do something.

But again no need for this constant war. Just attack nuke sites every time they try and build one.

You really think they would use it offensively? I don't. It would be used as a deterrent like everyone else does. Using it means the nuclear destruction of the Country. Same with North Korea. To them, it is a golden ticket NOT to be attacked or invaded.

If anything, this little endeavor or Trump's and Bibi's moves them and others closer to getting one. There biggest fear is invasion and we showed we will attack. I would be more concerned with China or Russia giving them the tech and even a working warhead than developing it themselves.

Very good article on Iran and nukes. Makes some very good points and approaches from a data and informational perspective.

What Happens If Iran Gets Nuclear Weapons? - The DEFCON Warning System - Since 1984


Pretty decent chance they would.
Or give one to someone who would.
Probably not a chance worth taking.
HuMcK
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Hmm, maybe we should have made a deal to get some inspectors in there or something. Maybe something with an international coalition, and verifiable benchmarks.

We could call it something like a Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action...
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and a few billion while we are at it..
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A "few" billion.
Danielsjackson114
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If you do not know the difference between what Barry Osama did, and the above tweet

Then you are drowning in TDS
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Danielsjackson114 said:

If you do not know the difference between what Barry Osama did, and the above tweet

Then you are drowning in TDS

The difference is that Obama was just giving them back their own money but Trump is actually spending ours.
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And the interest paid, Hamas Harry?
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Frank Galvin said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

This continues to be an epic ****show.

That is inherent in war. Something our leaders forgot. Of course, it is something many American leaders have forgotten.


Forgot? They didn't care. This war is military malpractice. Hegseth fired the experience and thought this would be Venezuela. Now, we have EXTENSIVE damage to our bases and reputation. Add in tariffs and threats? It's gonna be a long path back (if we get back).
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