Do our resident groypers still support Nick Fuentes

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In reply to Mothra • 1:35p, 3/25/26
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A bit surprised by this. I thought Catholics already surpassed Evangelicals.

Makes no difference. I suspect the vast majority in both Catholics and Evangelical Churches (a very broad, undefined term) aren't Christian anyway.

As Christ said, the gate is narrow.


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In reply to BigGameBaylorBear • 2:07p, 3/25/26
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Mothra said:
Doc Holliday said:
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BASED

People are hungry for tradition and uniformity

Indeed.

Young men need accountability, structure, reverence and binding authority.

Just because a church has leaders that wear costumes, have long bears, worship paintings and statutes, and have a list of criteria necessary for salvation doesn't mean there isn't accountability, structure, reverence and binding authority outside of Catholicism and Orthodoxy.

Your silly assumptions are a real crutch for you.

Just because a church has leaders that wear $5k suits, drive g wagons, kneel before worship bands, worship reformers and practice neo-Gnosticism, doesn't mean there isn't accountability, structure, reverence and binding authority outside of calvinist evangelicalism.

See how dumb that sounds?


My roommates went to Harris Creek while I was a student at Baylor. I tagged along a few times… it's exactly what you described

JP (the pastor) frequently wore designer clothing with luxury watches. I can count at least three times where he incorporated the construction of his second home into sermons. I'm not saying he's a bad guy, but I can't get an honest read on him.

Kind of reminds me of this:

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2:14p, 3/25/26
How do our Catholic and Orthodox friends feel about removing tax exempt status from religious institutions?

There is so much fraud and abuse.

I also feel these Israel First churches should be paying their fair share towards the wars they support.
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In reply to BigGameBaylorBear • 2:31p, 3/25/26
BigGameBaylorBear said:
Mothra said:
Doc Holliday said:
BigGameBaylorBear said:
The_barBEARian said:


BASED

People are hungry for tradition and uniformity

Indeed.

Young men need accountability, structure, reverence and binding authority.

Just because a church has leaders that wear costumes, have long bears, worship paintings and statutes, and have a list of criteria necessary for salvation doesn't mean there isn't accountability, structure, reverence and binding authority outside of Catholicism and Orthodoxy.

Your silly assumptions are a real crutch for you.


Cope. Once Protestantism dies in America it will cease to exist throughout the entire world as Europe isn't looking so hot these days. I give it another 80 years

We'll be lucky if they don't take the world out with them. The way things are going, these fundamentalists could blow it all up any day now.
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In reply to The_barBEARian • 2:31p, 3/25/26
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How do our Catholic and Orthodox friends feel about removing tax exempt status from religious institutions?

It's an abhorrent notion.
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2:47p, 3/25/26
IMHO, sacraments aren't obedience to God. They're obedience to dogma. Commitment to righteousness is obedience to God. But neither hold a central purpose in salvation.
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In reply to Doc Holliday • 2:51p, 3/25/26
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EatMoreSalmon said:
BigGameBaylorBear said:
Mothra said:
Doc Holliday said:
BigGameBaylorBear said:
The_barBEARian said:


BASED

People are hungry for tradition and uniformity

Indeed.

Young men need accountability, structure, reverence and binding authority.

Just because a church has leaders that wear costumes, have long bears, worship paintings and statutes, and have a list of criteria necessary for salvation doesn't mean there isn't accountability, structure, reverence and binding authority outside of Catholicism and Orthodoxy.

Your silly assumptions are a real crutch for you.


Cope. Once Protestantism dies in America it will cease to exist throughout the entire world as Europe isn't looking so hot these days. I give it another 80 years

It is growing rapidly in Africa and Asia.

As long as Christ is preached and churches grow from christians gathering in Christ's name, it won't matter what the name of the church is. It only matters that the gospel of Christ is believed and is represented by faith and trust in God by those in the church.

That rapid growth is Pentecostalism and they teach the prosperity gospel, they speak in gibberish which they think means tongues and have wild services.

I think BigGame was alluding to Evangelicalism.

This is not the case. Denominations that are shrinking here are growing in Africa and Asia. I am sure Pentecostalism is growing there as well, but the movement of Christ is much bigger than that there.
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In reply to Sam Lowry • 2:51p, 3/25/26
Sam Lowry said:
The_barBEARian said:
How do our Catholic and Orthodox friends feel about removing tax exempt status from religious institutions?

It's an abhorrent notion.


Abhorrent is an adjective used to describe animal mutilation or pedophilia... not a word that should be used in relation to Kenneth Copeland paying taxes.
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In reply to ATL Bear • 3:03p, 3/25/26
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IMHO, sacraments aren't obedience to God. They're obedience to dogma. Commitment to righteousness is obedience to God. But neither hold a central purpose in salvation.


Dogma = Tradition = Based and Peak

Try running an organized religion that is unimpressive and uninspiring
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In reply to EatMoreSalmon • 3:28p, 3/25/26
EatMoreSalmon said:
Doc Holliday said:
EatMoreSalmon said:
BigGameBaylorBear said:
Mothra said:
Doc Holliday said:
BigGameBaylorBear said:
The_barBEARian said:


BASED

People are hungry for tradition and uniformity

Indeed.

Young men need accountability, structure, reverence and binding authority.

Just because a church has leaders that wear costumes, have long bears, worship paintings and statutes, and have a list of criteria necessary for salvation doesn't mean there isn't accountability, structure, reverence and binding authority outside of Catholicism and Orthodoxy.

Your silly assumptions are a real crutch for you.


Cope. Once Protestantism dies in America it will cease to exist throughout the entire world as Europe isn't looking so hot these days. I give it another 80 years

It is growing rapidly in Africa and Asia.

As long as Christ is preached and churches grow from christians gathering in Christ's name, it won't matter what the name of the church is. It only matters that the gospel of Christ is believed and is represented by faith and trust in God by those in the church.

That rapid growth is Pentecostalism and they teach the prosperity gospel, they speak in gibberish which they think means tongues and have wild services.

I think BigGame was alluding to Evangelicalism.

This is not the case. Denominations that are shrinking here are growing in Africa and Asia. I am sure Pentecostalism is growing there as well, but the movement of Christ is much bigger than that there.

It is the case. It will be the largest Christian sect in the world by 2050.
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Pentecostalism and associated Charismatic movements are widely considered the fastest-growing religious movement globally, boasting over 644 million adherents combined. Growing at an estimated annual rate of 7%, this surge is largely concentrated in the Global SouthAfrica, Latin America, and Asiadriven by its highly decentralized nature. LINK

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In reply to Doc Holliday • 3:31p, 3/25/26
Doc Holliday said:

Kind of reminds me of this:



Isn't Furtick the guy who planted people in the crowd to come down for fake baptisms to encourage visitors to respond to altar calls? Or was that Greear?
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In reply to Realitybites • 3:32p, 3/25/26
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Doc Holliday said:

Kind of reminds me of this:



Isn't Furtick the guy who planted people in the crowd to come down for fake baptisms to encourage responses to altar calls?

Lol that's wild

He's worth like $60M!
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In reply to Doc Holliday • 4:24p, 3/25/26
Doc Holliday said:
EatMoreSalmon said:
Doc Holliday said:
EatMoreSalmon said:
BigGameBaylorBear said:
Mothra said:
Doc Holliday said:
BigGameBaylorBear said:
The_barBEARian said:


BASED

People are hungry for tradition and uniformity

Indeed.

Young men need accountability, structure, reverence and binding authority.

Just because a church has leaders that wear costumes, have long bears, worship paintings and statutes, and have a list of criteria necessary for salvation doesn't mean there isn't accountability, structure, reverence and binding authority outside of Catholicism and Orthodoxy.

Your silly assumptions are a real crutch for you.


Cope. Once Protestantism dies in America it will cease to exist throughout the entire world as Europe isn't looking so hot these days. I give it another 80 years

It is growing rapidly in Africa and Asia.

As long as Christ is preached and churches grow from christians gathering in Christ's name, it won't matter what the name of the church is. It only matters that the gospel of Christ is believed and is represented by faith and trust in God by those in the church.

That rapid growth is Pentecostalism and they teach the prosperity gospel, they speak in gibberish which they think means tongues and have wild services.

I think BigGame was alluding to Evangelicalism.

This is not the case. Denominations that are shrinking here are growing in Africa and Asia. I am sure Pentecostalism is growing there as well, but the movement of Christ is much bigger than that there.

It is the case. It will be the largest Christian sect in the world by 2050.
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Pentecostalism and associated Charismatic movements are widely considered the fastest-growing religious movement globally, boasting over 644 million adherents combined. Growing at an estimated annual rate of 7%, this surge is largely concentrated in the Global SouthAfrica, Latin America, and Asiadriven by its highly decentralized nature. LINK


Its wild that these people will dominate the protestant world globally


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In reply to Doc Holliday • 4:32p, 3/25/26
Doc Holliday said:
Doc Holliday said:
EatMoreSalmon said:
Doc Holliday said:
EatMoreSalmon said:
BigGameBaylorBear said:
Mothra said:
Doc Holliday said:
BigGameBaylorBear said:
The_barBEARian said:


BASED

People are hungry for tradition and uniformity

Indeed.

Young men need accountability, structure, reverence and binding authority.

Just because a church has leaders that wear costumes, have long bears, worship paintings and statutes, and have a list of criteria necessary for salvation doesn't mean there isn't accountability, structure, reverence and binding authority outside of Catholicism and Orthodoxy.

Your silly assumptions are a real crutch for you.


Cope. Once Protestantism dies in America it will cease to exist throughout the entire world as Europe isn't looking so hot these days. I give it another 80 years

It is growing rapidly in Africa and Asia.

As long as Christ is preached and churches grow from christians gathering in Christ's name, it won't matter what the name of the church is. It only matters that the gospel of Christ is believed and is represented by faith and trust in God by those in the church.

That rapid growth is Pentecostalism and they teach the prosperity gospel, they speak in gibberish which they think means tongues and have wild services.

I think BigGame was alluding to Evangelicalism.

This is not the case. Denominations that are shrinking here are growing in Africa and Asia. I am sure Pentecostalism is growing there as well, but the movement of Christ is much bigger than that there.

It is the case. It will be the largest Christian sect in the world by 2050.
Quote:
Pentecostalism and associated Charismatic movements are widely considered the fastest-growing religious movement globally, boasting over 644 million adherents combined. Growing at an estimated annual rate of 7%, this surge is largely concentrated in the Global SouthAfrica, Latin America, and Asiadriven by its highly decentralized nature. LINK


Its wild that these people will dominate the protestant world globally




To answer Barbearians question, yes, tax these ones right here
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In reply to Doc Holliday • 4:41p, 3/25/26
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This same thing will happen to evangelicals/calvinsts. They also don't have a structural feature of their church to prevent this same sequence of events toward cultural acceptance. If the answer is "our pastor would never allow it" or "our congregation believes the Bible"… those are people, not structures. Pastors retire, die, or get replaced. Congregations turn over generationally. You're rolling the dice. If millennials and Gen Z think they know better and want to change things…they can do it with ease.

Without a magisterium, an unbroken apostolic succession, or a
binding creedal authority, then you have no teeth.

In Eastern Orthodoxy, women's ordination isn't a rule that could be voted on, reinterpreted, or gradually liberalized through synodal means. These things are settled and can't be reexamined. Any women who try to fill the role of priest cannot be ordained and any sacraments they perform are also not legitimate.

So to be clear, you believe this will be the end results for every single evangelical/calvinist denomination?

LOL. You're a hoot.

Coming from a guy who needs a bearded fat man in a costume who likes to be called "His emminence" tell him what scripture means is particularly funny.
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In reply to The_barBEARian • 4:42p, 3/25/26
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Well, that's gotta be true.
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In reply to BigGameBaylorBear • 4:43p, 3/25/26
BigGameBaylorBear said:
Mothra said:
BigGameBaylorBear said:
Mothra said:
Doc Holliday said:
BigGameBaylorBear said:
The_barBEARian said:


BASED

People are hungry for tradition and uniformity

Indeed.

Young men need accountability, structure, reverence and binding authority.

Just because a church has leaders that wear costumes, have long bears, worship paintings and statutes, and have a list of criteria necessary for salvation doesn't mean there isn't accountability, structure, reverence and binding authority outside of Catholicism and Orthodoxy.

Your silly assumptions are a real crutch for you.


Cope. Once Protestantism dies in America it will cease to exist throughout the entire world as Europe isn't looking so hot these days. I give it another 80 years

Said every Catholic since the 1500's.

LOL.



Protestant trends come and go, but the Apostolic Churches remain unmoved. Presbyterians, Methodists, Southern Bapists… They're a dying breed

Right now the current fad is the mega churches. In time they will be gone too

Wishful thinking. I get it.

Well, we agree the world has always like heresy, so I am sure the Catholic Church will continue to have large numbers...
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In reply to BigGameBaylorBear • 4:45p, 3/25/26
BigGameBaylorBear said:
Doc Holliday said:
Mothra said:
Doc Holliday said:
BigGameBaylorBear said:
The_barBEARian said:


BASED

People are hungry for tradition and uniformity

Indeed.

Young men need accountability, structure, reverence and binding authority.

Just because a church has leaders that wear costumes, have long bears, worship paintings and statutes, and have a list of criteria necessary for salvation doesn't mean there isn't accountability, structure, reverence and binding authority outside of Catholicism and Orthodoxy.

Your silly assumptions are a real crutch for you.

Just because a church has leaders that wear $5k suits, drive g wagons, kneel before worship bands, worship reformers and practice neo-Gnosticism, doesn't mean there isn't accountability, structure, reverence and binding authority outside of calvinist evangelicalism.

See how dumb that sounds?


My roommates went to Harris Creek while I was a student at Baylor. I tagged along a few times… it's exactly what you described

JP (the pastor) frequently wore designer clothing with luxury watches. I can count at least three times where he incorporated the construction of his second home into sermons. I'm not saying he's a bad guy, but I can't get an honest read on him.

JP is a personal friend. He doesn't have designer clothes, nor a huge house. I've been there a number of times.

He is a gifted preacher who has led man college-aged kids to Christ.
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In reply to Sam Lowry • 4:47p, 3/25/26
Sam Lowry said:
BigGameBaylorBear said:
Mothra said:
Doc Holliday said:
BigGameBaylorBear said:
The_barBEARian said:


BASED

People are hungry for tradition and uniformity

Indeed.

Young men need accountability, structure, reverence and binding authority.

Just because a church has leaders that wear costumes, have long bears, worship paintings and statutes, and have a list of criteria necessary for salvation doesn't mean there isn't accountability, structure, reverence and binding authority outside of Catholicism and Orthodoxy.

Your silly assumptions are a real crutch for you.


Cope. Once Protestantism dies in America it will cease to exist throughout the entire world as Europe isn't looking so hot these days. I give it another 80 years

We'll be lucky if they don't take the world out with them. The way things are going, these fundamentalists could blow it all up any day now.

To be fair, there was once a Catholic president whose actions almost resulted in the end of the world.

In fact, he came about as close as you can to it.
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In reply to The_barBEARian • 5:07p, 3/25/26
The_barBEARian said:
ATL Bear said:
IMHO, sacraments aren't obedience to God. They're obedience to dogma. Commitment to righteousness is obedience to God. But neither hold a central purpose in salvation.


Dogma = Tradition = Based and Peak

Try running an organized religion that is unimpressive and uninspiring
Ironic comment given your disdain for probably the most dogmatic and tradition driven religion in the World.
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In reply to ATL Bear • 5:52p, 3/25/26
ATL Bear said:
The_barBEARian said:
ATL Bear said:
IMHO, sacraments aren't obedience to God. They're obedience to dogma. Commitment to righteousness is obedience to God. But neither hold a central purpose in salvation.


Dogma = Tradition = Based and Peak

Try running an organized religion that is unimpressive and uninspiring

Ironic comment given your disdain for probably the most dogmatic and tradition driven religion in the World.


Talmudic Judaism is younger than Christianity.
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In reply to Mothra • 6:20p, 3/25/26
Mothra said:
BigGameBaylorBear said:
Doc Holliday said:
Mothra said:
Doc Holliday said:
BigGameBaylorBear said:
The_barBEARian said:


BASED

People are hungry for tradition and uniformity

Indeed.

Young men need accountability, structure, reverence and binding authority.

Just because a church has leaders that wear costumes, have long bears, worship paintings and statutes, and have a list of criteria necessary for salvation doesn't mean there isn't accountability, structure, reverence and binding authority outside of Catholicism and Orthodoxy.

Your silly assumptions are a real crutch for you.

Just because a church has leaders that wear $5k suits, drive g wagons, kneel before worship bands, worship reformers and practice neo-Gnosticism, doesn't mean there isn't accountability, structure, reverence and binding authority outside of calvinist evangelicalism.

See how dumb that sounds?


My roommates went to Harris Creek while I was a student at Baylor. I tagged along a few times… it's exactly what you described

JP (the pastor) frequently wore designer clothing with luxury watches. I can count at least three times where he incorporated the construction of his second home into sermons. I'm not saying he's a bad guy, but I can't get an honest read on him.

JP is a personal friend. He doesn't have designer clothes, nor a huge house. I've been there a number of times.

He is a gifted preacher who has led man college-aged kids to Christ.


Ah, that explains the rampant heretical takes
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In reply to Mothra • 6:22p, 3/25/26
Mothra said:
BigGameBaylorBear said:
Mothra said:
BigGameBaylorBear said:
Mothra said:
Doc Holliday said:
BigGameBaylorBear said:
The_barBEARian said:


BASED

People are hungry for tradition and uniformity

Indeed.

Young men need accountability, structure, reverence and binding authority.

Just because a church has leaders that wear costumes, have long bears, worship paintings and statutes, and have a list of criteria necessary for salvation doesn't mean there isn't accountability, structure, reverence and binding authority outside of Catholicism and Orthodoxy.

Your silly assumptions are a real crutch for you.


Cope. Once Protestantism dies in America it will cease to exist throughout the entire world as Europe isn't looking so hot these days. I give it another 80 years

Said every Catholic since the 1500's.

LOL.



Protestant trends come and go, but the Apostolic Churches remain unmoved. Presbyterians, Methodists, Southern Bapists… They're a dying breed

Right now the current fad is the mega churches. In time they will be gone too

Wishful thinking. I get it.

Well, we agree the world has always like heresy, so I am sure the Catholic Church will continue to have large numbers...


Wishful thinking for you as the data supports my claim, bubba
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In reply to BigGameBaylorBear • 6:36p, 3/25/26
Your cherry-picked numbers =/= data ... bubba.
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In reply to BigGameBaylorBear • 6:42p, 3/25/26
BigGameBaylorBear said:
Mothra said:
BigGameBaylorBear said:
Doc Holliday said:
Mothra said:
Doc Holliday said:
BigGameBaylorBear said:
The_barBEARian said:


BASED

People are hungry for tradition and uniformity

Indeed.

Young men need accountability, structure, reverence and binding authority.

Just because a church has leaders that wear costumes, have long bears, worship paintings and statutes, and have a list of criteria necessary for salvation doesn't mean there isn't accountability, structure, reverence and binding authority outside of Catholicism and Orthodoxy.

Your silly assumptions are a real crutch for you.

Just because a church has leaders that wear $5k suits, drive g wagons, kneel before worship bands, worship reformers and practice neo-Gnosticism, doesn't mean there isn't accountability, structure, reverence and binding authority outside of calvinist evangelicalism.

See how dumb that sounds?


My roommates went to Harris Creek while I was a student at Baylor. I tagged along a few times… it's exactly what you described

JP (the pastor) frequently wore designer clothing with luxury watches. I can count at least three times where he incorporated the construction of his second home into sermons. I'm not saying he's a bad guy, but I can't get an honest read on him.

JP is a personal friend. He doesn't have designer clothes, nor a huge house. I've been there a number of times.

He is a gifted preacher who has led man college-aged kids to Christ.


Ah, that explains the rampant heretical takes

If I've said anything heretical, you certainly haven't been able to refute it, that is for sure, given your rudimentary understanding of scripture.
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In reply to BigGameBaylorBear • 6:45p, 3/25/26
BigGameBaylorBear said:
Mothra said:
BigGameBaylorBear said:
Mothra said:
BigGameBaylorBear said:
Mothra said:
Doc Holliday said:
BigGameBaylorBear said:
The_barBEARian said:


BASED

People are hungry for tradition and uniformity

Indeed.

Young men need accountability, structure, reverence and binding authority.

Just because a church has leaders that wear costumes, have long bears, worship paintings and statutes, and have a list of criteria necessary for salvation doesn't mean there isn't accountability, structure, reverence and binding authority outside of Catholicism and Orthodoxy.

Your silly assumptions are a real crutch for you.


Cope. Once Protestantism dies in America it will cease to exist throughout the entire world as Europe isn't looking so hot these days. I give it another 80 years

Said every Catholic since the 1500's.

LOL.



Protestant trends come and go, but the Apostolic Churches remain unmoved. Presbyterians, Methodists, Southern Bapists… They're a dying breed

Right now the current fad is the mega churches. In time they will be gone too

Wishful thinking. I get it.

Well, we agree the world has always like heresy, so I am sure the Catholic Church will continue to have large numbers...


Wishful thinking for you as the data supports my claim, bubba

Except it doesn't. I will give you that the traditional protestant denominations have taken a hit, and rightly so, given their heresy, but there is no data to support the idea that protestant or evangelical churches in general are "dying." Indeed, nondenominational churches remain the fastest growing outside of Pentecostal Churches - faster than Catholicism and Orthodox.

You need to be more careful with your words.
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In reply to The_barBEARian • 6:46p, 3/25/26
The_barBEARian said:
ATL Bear said:
The_barBEARian said:
ATL Bear said:
IMHO, sacraments aren't obedience to God. They're obedience to dogma. Commitment to righteousness is obedience to God. But neither hold a central purpose in salvation.


Dogma = Tradition = Based and Peak

Try running an organized religion that is unimpressive and uninspiring

Ironic comment given your disdain for probably the most dogmatic and tradition driven religion in the World.


Talmudic Judaism is younger than Christianity.

You mean you don't hate all Judaism?

Kind of surprised.
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In reply to Mothra • 7:37p, 3/25/26
Mothra said:
The_barBEARian said:
ATL Bear said:
The_barBEARian said:
ATL Bear said:
IMHO, sacraments aren't obedience to God. They're obedience to dogma. Commitment to righteousness is obedience to God. But neither hold a central purpose in salvation.


Dogma = Tradition = Based and Peak

Try running an organized religion that is unimpressive and uninspiring

Ironic comment given your disdain for probably the most dogmatic and tradition driven religion in the World.


Talmudic Judaism is younger than Christianity.

You mean you don't hate all Judaism?

Kind of surprised.


My sentiments towards Judaism are about on par with your sentiments towards Atheism.
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In reply to The_barBEARian • 8:12p, 3/25/26
The_barBEARian said:
ATL Bear said:
The_barBEARian said:
ATL Bear said:
IMHO, sacraments aren't obedience to God. They're obedience to dogma. Commitment to righteousness is obedience to God. But neither hold a central purpose in salvation.


Dogma = Tradition = Based and Peak

Try running an organized religion that is unimpressive and uninspiring

Ironic comment given your disdain for probably the most dogmatic and tradition driven religion in the World.


Talmudic Judaism is younger than Christianity.
Well, Judaism certainly didn't have any dogma or traditions prior to that…
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In reply to ATL Bear • 8:30p, 3/25/26
ATL Bear said:
The_barBEARian said:
ATL Bear said:
The_barBEARian said:
ATL Bear said:
IMHO, sacraments aren't obedience to God. They're obedience to dogma. Commitment to righteousness is obedience to God. But neither hold a central purpose in salvation.


Dogma = Tradition = Based and Peak

Try running an organized religion that is unimpressive and uninspiring

Ironic comment given your disdain for probably the most dogmatic and tradition driven religion in the World.


Talmudic Judaism is younger than Christianity.

Well, Judaism certainly didn't have any dogma or traditions prior to that…


I've appreciated your rational, level headed analysis in the Iran War thread.

Of course I know you don't have the stomach to address the root cause and criticize Israel for pushing us into their war, but at least you seem to acknowledge how it is dangerous, unproductive, and against American interests.
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In reply to Mothra • 8:32p, 3/25/26
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BASED

People are hungry for tradition and uniformity

Indeed.

Young men need accountability, structure, reverence and binding authority.

Just because a church has leaders that wear costumes, have long bears, worship paintings and statutes, and have a list of criteria necessary for salvation doesn't mean there isn't accountability, structure, reverence and binding authority outside of Catholicism and Orthodoxy.

Your silly assumptions are a real crutch for you.

Just because a church has leaders that wear $5k suits, drive g wagons, kneel before worship bands, worship reformers and practice neo-Gnosticism, doesn't mean there isn't accountability, structure, reverence and binding authority outside of calvinist evangelicalism.

See how dumb that sounds?


My roommates went to Harris Creek while I was a student at Baylor. I tagged along a few times… it's exactly what you described

JP (the pastor) frequently wore designer clothing with luxury watches. I can count at least three times where he incorporated the construction of his second home into sermons. I'm not saying he's a bad guy, but I can't get an honest read on him.

JP is a personal friend. He doesn't have designer clothes, nor a huge house. I've been there a number of times.

He is a gifted preacher who has led man college-aged kids to Christ.


Ah, that explains the rampant heretical takes

If I've said anything heretical, you certainly haven't been able to refute it, that is for sure, given your rudimentary understanding of scripture.


My church is 2000 years old, your pastor wears Travis Scott Nike sneakers… I'll take my chances with mine
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In reply to The_barBEARian • 8:35p, 3/25/26
The_barBEARian said:
ATL Bear said:
The_barBEARian said:
ATL Bear said:
The_barBEARian said:
ATL Bear said:
IMHO, sacraments aren't obedience to God. They're obedience to dogma. Commitment to righteousness is obedience to God. But neither hold a central purpose in salvation.


Dogma = Tradition = Based and Peak

Try running an organized religion that is unimpressive and uninspiring

Ironic comment given your disdain for probably the most dogmatic and tradition driven religion in the World.


Talmudic Judaism is younger than Christianity.

Well, Judaism certainly didn't have any dogma or traditions prior to that…


I've appreciated your rational, level headed analysis in the Iran War thread.

Of course I know you don't have the stomach to address the root cause and criticize Israel for pushing us into their war, but at least you seem to acknowledge how it is dangerous, unproductive, and against American interests.

Imperialism and colonialism are the root cause. Jews are the scapegoat, as usual.
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In reply to Oldbear83 • 8:36p, 3/25/26
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Your cherry-picked numbers =/= data ... bubba.


The number of Catholics increasing versus various Protestant denominations decreasing is not a cherry picked stat you stupid foid
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In reply to Sam Lowry • 8:43p, 3/25/26
Sam Lowry said:
The_barBEARian said:
ATL Bear said:
The_barBEARian said:
ATL Bear said:
The_barBEARian said:
ATL Bear said:
IMHO, sacraments aren't obedience to God. They're obedience to dogma. Commitment to righteousness is obedience to God. But neither hold a central purpose in salvation.


Dogma = Tradition = Based and Peak

Try running an organized religion that is unimpressive and uninspiring

Ironic comment given your disdain for probably the most dogmatic and tradition driven religion in the World.


Talmudic Judaism is younger than Christianity.

Well, Judaism certainly didn't have any dogma or traditions prior to that…


I've appreciated your rational, level headed analysis in the Iran War thread.

Of course I know you don't have the stomach to address the root cause and criticize Israel for pushing us into their war, but at least you seem to acknowledge how it is dangerous, unproductive, and against American interests.

Imperialism and colonialism are the root cause. Jews are the scapegoat, as usual.
Islamism.
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In reply to BigGameBaylorBear • 8:47p, 3/25/26
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Oldbear83 said:
Your cherry-picked numbers =/= data ... bubba.


The number of Catholics increasing versus various Protestant denominations decreasing is not a cherry picked stat you stupid foid

Name-calling is certainly an indicator of the quality of your argument.
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