Lupita Nyong'o will play Helen of Troy in the Odyssey (DEI)

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Mitch Blood Green said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

Redbrickbear said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

Can I ask a question? Do you guys realize this ain't a real *****?


Well actually the Trojan war was a real event…

Now the mythos around that war and the people who fought it is obviously story telling.

But what is the point again of casting non-Greek looking actors in a Greek story?

At best its a strange choice that hurts the story telling itself…"world creation" and all that jazz…since the whole point is to get the audience to buy in and lose themselves in the epic & story.

Not constantly having to question the casting decisions




I don't understand the uproar before the movie is released. Hollywood has been casting characters (especially fictional ones) across multiple races for years. (Red from Shawshank comes to mind).

Taylor in Cleopatra is another one. This is druggie Elon Musk driven.

Jesus also comes to mind. He's mostly likely not white and no way has has six pack abs.

You sort of keep ignoring what folks have posting and just keep doing the cut and paste job ... but I will entertain your silliness with a serious response:
- I think you need to understand the difference between casting fictional characters and non-fictional characters
- Before five years ago, Hollywood attempted to make actors resemble what their historical counterparts would have looked like - Taylor looked more like Cleopatra than Will Smith's bald wife; that's why it is called acting and there is costuming; but no one is going to believe Helen of Troy was blek or this chick has a "face that launched a thousand ships"
- The Jesus example is an immature distraction; cultures across the world depict Jesus in a way that resonates with the local people so as to provide comfort and peace; no one thinks Jesus literally was an American, but it is ironic the amount of butthurt LWNJ Christians spend on "white Jesus"

I could ask you another simple question you likely would avoid: would you be upset personally and do you think there would be outrage if Sydney Sweeney was cast as Rosa Parks in a biopic? Do you think you and Hamas Harry would defend the casting or condemn it?

At the end of the day, the eye-rolling is just the stupid Didn't Earn It virtue signaling in a world were black people make up 12% of the population but we have to pretend bleks were in Victorian England, bleks were in the War of the Roses, bleks were Norse fighters ... no one is making a movie about Africans selling Africans into slavery starring Ryan Gosling as a slave sold to the British by Will Smith.



There were blacks Vikings as the Vikings were travelers and enlsavers. They gathered people and things along their path.




Very unlikely there were any Black Africans as Vikings

They tended to raid the British isles and mainland Europe for their vast majority of their slaves. And rarely (though did on occasion) raid the Mediterranean basin area.

Now it's not impossible that in a raid on a Spanish, Arab, or Berber area they could not have captured a black African person(s)…but then that would have been a person they took as a slave (like the Irish or Britons) and not have been considered a warrior by them and unlikely to have been made a freeman or raised to warrior status.

It's I guess technically possible but no historical evidence for it and highly unlikely

[Modern DNA research confirms that the vast majority of people during the Viking Age had deep roots in Norway, Sweden, and Denmark.

Slaves and Captives: The Vikings were notorious for capturing slaves (called thralls) and trading extensively as far as the Middle East and Northern Africa. Historical records and archaeological excavations of Viking sites indicate the presence of enslaved people of various ancestriesincluding some of African origin. These individuals were typically captives rather than active Viking warriors or explorers.]
Mitch Blood Green
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Redbrickbear said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

Redbrickbear said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

Can I ask a question? Do you guys realize this ain't a real *****?


Well actually the Trojan war was a real event…

Now the mythos around that war and the people who fought it is obviously story telling.

But what is the point again of casting non-Greek looking actors in a Greek story?

At best its a strange choice that hurts the story telling itself…"world creation" and all that jazz…since the whole point is to get the audience to buy in and lose themselves in the epic & story.

Not constantly having to question the casting decisions




I don't understand the uproar before the movie is released. Hollywood has been casting characters (especially fictional ones) across multiple races for years. (Red from Shawshank comes to mind).

Taylor in Cleopatra is another one. This is druggie Elon Musk driven.

Jesus also comes to mind. He's mostly likely not white and no way has has six pack abs.

You sort of keep ignoring what folks have posting and just keep doing the cut and paste job ... but I will entertain your silliness with a serious response:
- I think you need to understand the difference between casting fictional characters and non-fictional characters
- Before five years ago, Hollywood attempted to make actors resemble what their historical counterparts would have looked like - Taylor looked more like Cleopatra than Will Smith's bald wife; that's why it is called acting and there is costuming; but no one is going to believe Helen of Troy was blek or this chick has a "face that launched a thousand ships"
- The Jesus example is an immature distraction; cultures across the world depict Jesus in a way that resonates with the local people so as to provide comfort and peace; no one thinks Jesus literally was an American, but it is ironic the amount of butthurt LWNJ Christians spend on "white Jesus"

I could ask you another simple question you likely would avoid: would you be upset personally and do you think there would be outrage if Sydney Sweeney was cast as Rosa Parks in a biopic? Do you think you and Hamas Harry would defend the casting or condemn it?

At the end of the day, the eye-rolling is just the stupid Didn't Earn It virtue signaling in a world were black people make up 12% of the population but we have to pretend bleks were in Victorian England, bleks were in the War of the Roses, bleks were Norse fighters ... no one is making a movie about Africans selling Africans into slavery starring Ryan Gosling as a slave sold to the British by Will Smith.



There were blacks Vikings as the Vikings were travelers and enlsavers. They gathered people and things along their path.




Very unlikely there were any Black Africans as Vikings

They tended to raid the British isles and mainland Europe for their vast majority of their slaves. And rarely (though did on occasion) raid the Mediterranean basin area.

Now it's not impossible that in a raid on a Spanish, Arab, or Berber area they could not have captured a black African person(s)…but then that would have been a person they took as a slave (like the Irish or Britons) and not have been considered a warrior by them and unlikely to have been made a freeman or raised to warrior status.

It's I guess technically possible but no historical evidence for it and highly unlikely

[Modern DNA research confirms that the vast majority of people during the Viking Age had deep roots in Norway, Sweden, and Denmark.

Slaves and Captives: The Vikings were notorious for capturing slaves (called thralls) and trading extensively as far as the Middle East and Northern Africa. Historical records and archaeological excavations of Viking sites indicate the presence of enslaved people of various ancestriesincluding some of African origin. These individuals were typically captives rather than active Viking warriors or explorers.]



I personally know John Randle and Alfred Anderson. There were black Vikings.
Mitch Blood Green
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Redbrickbear said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

Redbrickbear said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

eople whoCan I ask a question? Do you guys realize this ain't a real *****?


Well actually the Trojan war was a real event…

Now the mythos around that war and the people who fought it is obviously story telling.

But what is the point again of casting non-Greek looking actors in a Greek story?

At best its a strange choice that hurts the story telling itself…"world creation" and all that jazz…since the whole point is to get the audience to buy in and lose themselves in the epic & story.

Not constantly having to question the casting decisions




I don't understand the uproar before the movie is released. Hollywood has been casting characters (especially fictional ones) across multiple races for years. (Red from Shawshank comes to mind).

Taylor in Cleopatra is another one. This is druggie Elon Musk driven.

Jesus also comes to mind. He's mostly likely not white and no way has has six pack abs.

You sort of keep ignoring what folks have posting and just keep doing the cut and paste job ... but I will entertain your silliness with a serious response:
- I think you need to understand the difference between casting fictional characters and non-fictional characters
- Before five years ago, Hollywood attempted to make actors resemble what their historical counterparts would have looked like - Taylor looked more like Cleopatra than Will Smith's bald wife; that's why it is called acting and there is costuming; but no one is going to believe Helen of Troy was blek or this chick has a "face that launched a thousand ships"
- The Jesus example is an immature distraction; cultures across the world depict Jesus in a way that resonates with the local people so as to provide comfort and peace; no one thinks Jesus literally was an American, but it is ironic the amount of butthurt LWNJ Christians spend on "white Jesus"

I could ask you another simple question you likely would avoid: would you be upset personally and do you think there would be outrage if Sydney Sweeney was cast as Rosa Parks in a biopic? Do you think you and Hamas Harry would defend the casting or condemn it?

At the end of the day, the eye-rolling is just the stupid Didn't Earn It virtue signaling in a world were black people make up 12% of the population but we have to pretend bleks were in Victorian England, bleks were in the War of the Roses, bleks were Norse fighters ... no one is making a movie about Africans selling Africans into slavery starring Ryan Gosling as a slave sold to the British by Will Smith.



https://www.historyextra.com/period/victorian/black-victorians-britons-famous-who/

There were blacks Vikings as the Vikings were travelers and enlsavers. They gathered people and things along their path.

Not all things are for all people. This might not be for you. It's doing nothing for me. I'll watch Shawshank again. I'll get mad at Red for you.

As usual you avoid the direct questions for the straw man, but not surprising. You're having a circle jerk with the same idiot that claims there was a genocide in Gaza but cannot explain why the population has increased since 10/7.

Would you support Sydney Sweeney playing Rosa Parks? Do you think there would be any outrage? Do you think there would be outrage if Ryan Gossling played an African slave sold to a British captain played by Will Smith?

I love the logic that since there are Albino black people then all Nigerians should be portrayed as white. LOL.



If Sydney Sweeney playing Rosa Parks drew people into the theatre, it would happen.

.


The fact that she was not cast as Helen of Troy is a good example of your statement being wrong


I don't know why she wasn't cast as Helen. I know Nolan directed "The Dark Knight." He knows what he's doing.
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Mitch Blood Green said:

Redbrickbear said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

Redbrickbear said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

eople whoCan I ask a question? Do you guys realize this ain't a real *****?


Well actually the Trojan war was a real event…

Now the mythos around that war and the people who fought it is obviously story telling.

But what is the point again of casting non-Greek looking actors in a Greek story?

At best its a strange choice that hurts the story telling itself…"world creation" and all that jazz…since the whole point is to get the audience to buy in and lose themselves in the epic & story.

Not constantly having to question the casting decisions




I don't understand the uproar before the movie is released. Hollywood has been casting characters (especially fictional ones) across multiple races for years. (Red from Shawshank comes to mind).

Taylor in Cleopatra is another one. This is druggie Elon Musk driven.

Jesus also comes to mind. He's mostly likely not white and no way has has six pack abs.

You sort of keep ignoring what folks have posting and just keep doing the cut and paste job ... but I will entertain your silliness with a serious response:
- I think you need to understand the difference between casting fictional characters and non-fictional characters
- Before five years ago, Hollywood attempted to make actors resemble what their historical counterparts would have looked like - Taylor looked more like Cleopatra than Will Smith's bald wife; that's why it is called acting and there is costuming; but no one is going to believe Helen of Troy was blek or this chick has a "face that launched a thousand ships"
- The Jesus example is an immature distraction; cultures across the world depict Jesus in a way that resonates with the local people so as to provide comfort and peace; no one thinks Jesus literally was an American, but it is ironic the amount of butthurt LWNJ Christians spend on "white Jesus"

I could ask you another simple question you likely would avoid: would you be upset personally and do you think there would be outrage if Sydney Sweeney was cast as Rosa Parks in a biopic? Do you think you and Hamas Harry would defend the casting or condemn it?

At the end of the day, the eye-rolling is just the stupid Didn't Earn It virtue signaling in a world were black people make up 12% of the population but we have to pretend bleks were in Victorian England, bleks were in the War of the Roses, bleks were Norse fighters ... no one is making a movie about Africans selling Africans into slavery starring Ryan Gosling as a slave sold to the British by Will Smith.



https://www.historyextra.com/period/victorian/black-victorians-britons-famous-who/

There were blacks Vikings as the Vikings were travelers and enlsavers. They gathered people and things along their path.

Not all things are for all people. This might not be for you. It's doing nothing for me. I'll watch Shawshank again. I'll get mad at Red for you.

As usual you avoid the direct questions for the straw man, but not surprising. You're having a circle jerk with the same idiot that claims there was a genocide in Gaza but cannot explain why the population has increased since 10/7.

Would you support Sydney Sweeney playing Rosa Parks? Do you think there would be any outrage? Do you think there would be outrage if Ryan Gossling played an African slave sold to a British captain played by Will Smith?

I love the logic that since there are Albino black people then all Nigerians should be portrayed as white. LOL.



If Sydney Sweeney playing Rosa Parks drew people into the theatre, it would happen.

.


The fact that she was not cast as Helen of Troy is a good example of your statement being wrong


I don't know why she wasn't cast as Helen. I know Nolan directed "The Dark Knight." He knows what he's doing.

Exactly! She's gorgeous too.
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Mitch Blood Green said:

Redbrickbear said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

Redbrickbear said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

Can I ask a question? Do you guys realize this ain't a real *****?


Well actually the Trojan war was a real event…

Now the mythos around that war and the people who fought it is obviously story telling.

But what is the point again of casting non-Greek looking actors in a Greek story?

At best its a strange choice that hurts the story telling itself…"world creation" and all that jazz…since the whole point is to get the audience to buy in and lose themselves in the epic & story.

Not constantly having to question the casting decisions




I don't understand the uproar before the movie is released. Hollywood has been casting characters (especially fictional ones) across multiple races for years. (Red from Shawshank comes to mind).

Taylor in Cleopatra is another one. This is druggie Elon Musk driven.

Jesus also comes to mind. He's mostly likely not white and no way has has six pack abs.

You sort of keep ignoring what folks have posting and just keep doing the cut and paste job ... but I will entertain your silliness with a serious response:
- I think you need to understand the difference between casting fictional characters and non-fictional characters
- Before five years ago, Hollywood attempted to make actors resemble what their historical counterparts would have looked like - Taylor looked more like Cleopatra than Will Smith's bald wife; that's why it is called acting and there is costuming; but no one is going to believe Helen of Troy was blek or this chick has a "face that launched a thousand ships"
- The Jesus example is an immature distraction; cultures across the world depict Jesus in a way that resonates with the local people so as to provide comfort and peace; no one thinks Jesus literally was an American, but it is ironic the amount of butthurt LWNJ Christians spend on "white Jesus"

I could ask you another simple question you likely would avoid: would you be upset personally and do you think there would be outrage if Sydney Sweeney was cast as Rosa Parks in a biopic? Do you think you and Hamas Harry would defend the casting or condemn it?

At the end of the day, the eye-rolling is just the stupid Didn't Earn It virtue signaling in a world were black people make up 12% of the population but we have to pretend bleks were in Victorian England, bleks were in the War of the Roses, bleks were Norse fighters ... no one is making a movie about Africans selling Africans into slavery starring Ryan Gosling as a slave sold to the British by Will Smith.



There were blacks Vikings as the Vikings were travelers and enlsavers. They gathered people and things along their path.




Very unlikely there were any Black Africans as Vikings

They tended to raid the British isles and mainland Europe for their vast majority of their slaves. And rarely (though did on occasion) raid the Mediterranean basin area.

Now it's not impossible that in a raid on a Spanish, Arab, or Berber area they could not have captured a black African person(s)…but then that would have been a person they took as a slave (like the Irish or Britons) and not have been considered a warrior by them and unlikely to have been made a freeman or raised to warrior status.

It's I guess technically possible but no historical evidence for it and highly unlikely

[Modern DNA research confirms that the vast majority of people during the Viking Age had deep roots in Norway, Sweden, and Denmark.

Slaves and Captives: The Vikings were notorious for capturing slaves (called thralls) and trading extensively as far as the Middle East and Northern Africa. Historical records and archaeological excavations of Viking sites indicate the presence of enslaved people of various ancestriesincluding some of African origin. These individuals were typically captives rather than active Viking warriors or explorers.]



I personally know John Randle and Alfred Anderson. There were black Vikings.


It would be interesting…got a link?

You would have to assume at least Black Africans could have been picked up in the Med. Basin by Vikings.

But would have been surprising to see them raise one to warrior status/free man status. They didn't even raise up the Irish, Britons, and Slavs they took as slaves all that often and preferring to keep them as a separate class within Norse society (at least for a few generations)
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This casting could work….


Harrison Bergeron
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Redbrickbear said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

Redbrickbear said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

Can I ask a question? Do you guys realize this ain't a real *****?


Well actually the Trojan war was a real event…

Now the mythos around that war and the people who fought it is obviously story telling.

But what is the point again of casting non-Greek looking actors in a Greek story?

At best its a strange choice that hurts the story telling itself…"world creation" and all that jazz…since the whole point is to get the audience to buy in and lose themselves in the epic & story.

Not constantly having to question the casting decisions




I don't understand the uproar before the movie is released. Hollywood has been casting characters (especially fictional ones) across multiple races for years. (Red from Shawshank comes to mind).

Taylor in Cleopatra is another one. This is druggie Elon Musk driven.

Jesus also comes to mind. He's mostly likely not white and no way has has six pack abs.

You sort of keep ignoring what folks have posting and just keep doing the cut and paste job ... but I will entertain your silliness with a serious response:
- I think you need to understand the difference between casting fictional characters and non-fictional characters
- Before five years ago, Hollywood attempted to make actors resemble what their historical counterparts would have looked like - Taylor looked more like Cleopatra than Will Smith's bald wife; that's why it is called acting and there is costuming; but no one is going to believe Helen of Troy was blek or this chick has a "face that launched a thousand ships"
- The Jesus example is an immature distraction; cultures across the world depict Jesus in a way that resonates with the local people so as to provide comfort and peace; no one thinks Jesus literally was an American, but it is ironic the amount of butthurt LWNJ Christians spend on "white Jesus"

I could ask you another simple question you likely would avoid: would you be upset personally and do you think there would be outrage if Sydney Sweeney was cast as Rosa Parks in a biopic? Do you think you and Hamas Harry would defend the casting or condemn it?

At the end of the day, the eye-rolling is just the stupid Didn't Earn It virtue signaling in a world were black people make up 12% of the population but we have to pretend bleks were in Victorian England, bleks were in the War of the Roses, bleks were Norse fighters ... no one is making a movie about Africans selling Africans into slavery starring Ryan Gosling as a slave sold to the British by Will Smith.



There were blacks Vikings as the Vikings were travelers and enlsavers. They gathered people and things along their path.




Very unlikely there were any Black Africans as Vikings

They tended to raid the British isles and mainland Europe for their vast majority of their slaves. And rarely (though did on occasion) raid the Mediterranean basin area.

Now it's not impossible that in a raid on a Spanish, Arab, or Berber area they could not have captured a black African person(s)…but then that would have been a person they took as a slave (like the Irish or Britons) and not have been considered a warrior by them and unlikely to have been made a freeman or raised to warrior status.

It's I guess technically possible but no historical evidence for it and highly unlikely

[Modern DNA research confirms that the vast majority of people during the Viking Age had deep roots in Norway, Sweden, and Denmark.

Slaves and Captives: The Vikings were notorious for capturing slaves (called thralls) and trading extensively as far as the Middle East and Northern Africa. Historical records and archaeological excavations of Viking sites indicate the presence of enslaved people of various ancestriesincluding some of African origin. These individuals were typically captives rather than active Viking warriors or explorers.]

That's one of the anti-intellectual affects of Didn't Earn It on the Academy. People will just make random claims like "Beethoven was black" and one is not allowed to question the dubious scholarship or premise for fear of being charged with T'RACISM! Many full professorships at so-called "elite" universities are held by Didn't Earn It's that can barely read and certainly not think or perform rigorous academic inquiry. This is why we elect bartenders to Congress that think the American Revolution was fought to overturn billionaires. Disinformation + basic ignorance + suicidal empathy will be our downfall.
 
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