Lupita Nyong'o will play Helen of Troy in the Odyssey (DEI)

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Sam Lowry
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Redbrickbear said:

Sam Lowry said:

Rumor has it there are a ton of Anglo-Saxon performers in the movie as well.

Weird, weird stuff.


So why did he not cast actually Greek actors instead of Black people and English?

A lot less complaints from people if he actually went for real authentic Greek actors who are descended from the original Bronze Age Greek people

I don't think there's anything wrong with casting English or Kenyan actors. There's also at least one Korean guy, though I notice no one is up in arms about that. The adaptation looks to be somewhat stylized rather than strictly literal.
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Danielsjackson114
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Might as well

We need a movie about the evolution of the male being starring a transgender lunatic

Why not at this point? We are just throwing s h I t at the wall
cowboycwr
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Sam Lowry said:

cowboycwr said:

Sam Lowry said:

Rumor has it there are a ton of Anglo-Saxon performers in the movie as well.

Weird, weird stuff.


But did any of them get cast in roles of an African person? Egyptian? Etc?

Are any female roles being played by men?

If lily-white Robert Pattinson and Tom Holland can play olive-skinned Mediterranean characters, why can't a half-African do the same? Is she more black than they are white? By what standard if so?


Thank you for confirming you have zero clue about Ancient Greece or this topic.
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cowboycwr said:

Sam Lowry said:

cowboycwr said:

Sam Lowry said:

Rumor has it there are a ton of Anglo-Saxon performers in the movie as well.

Weird, weird stuff.


But did any of them get cast in roles of an African person? Egyptian? Etc?

Are any female roles being played by men?

If lily-white Robert Pattinson and Tom Holland can play olive-skinned Mediterranean characters, why can't a half-African do the same? Is she more black than they are white? By what standard if so?


Thank you for confirming you have zero clue about Ancient Greece or this topic.

Thank you for...not answering my question, I guess.
cowboycwr
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Sam Lowry said:

cowboycwr said:

Sam Lowry said:

cowboycwr said:

Sam Lowry said:

Rumor has it there are a ton of Anglo-Saxon performers in the movie as well.

Weird, weird stuff.


But did any of them get cast in roles of an African person? Egyptian? Etc?

Are any female roles being played by men?

If lily-white Robert Pattinson and Tom Holland can play olive-skinned Mediterranean characters, why can't a half-African do the same? Is she more black than they are white? By what standard if so?


Thank you for confirming you have zero clue about Ancient Greece or this topic.

Thank you for...not answering my question, I guess.


You showed that your question is stupid and invalid when you stuck your head up your own backside by not knowing the skin color of Greeks.

Any questions you might ask after that are irrelevant and deflections away from the issue.
Sam Lowry
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cowboycwr said:

Sam Lowry said:

cowboycwr said:

Sam Lowry said:

cowboycwr said:

Sam Lowry said:

Rumor has it there are a ton of Anglo-Saxon performers in the movie as well.

Weird, weird stuff.


But did any of them get cast in roles of an African person? Egyptian? Etc?

Are any female roles being played by men?

If lily-white Robert Pattinson and Tom Holland can play olive-skinned Mediterranean characters, why can't a half-African do the same? Is she more black than they are white? By what standard if so?


Thank you for confirming you have zero clue about Ancient Greece or this topic.

Thank you for...not answering my question, I guess.


You showed that your question is stupid and invalid when you stuck your head up your own backside by not knowing the skin color of Greeks.

Any questions you might ask after that are irrelevant and deflections away from the issue.

Anyone else?
cowboycwr
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Sam Lowry said:

cowboycwr said:

Sam Lowry said:

cowboycwr said:

Sam Lowry said:

cowboycwr said:

Sam Lowry said:

Rumor has it there are a ton of Anglo-Saxon performers in the movie as well.

Weird, weird stuff.


But did any of them get cast in roles of an African person? Egyptian? Etc?

Are any female roles being played by men?

If lily-white Robert Pattinson and Tom Holland can play olive-skinned Mediterranean characters, why can't a half-African do the same? Is she more black than they are white? By what standard if so?


Thank you for confirming you have zero clue about Ancient Greece or this topic.

Thank you for...not answering my question, I guess.


You showed that your question is stupid and invalid when you stuck your head up your own backside by not knowing the skin color of Greeks.

Any questions you might ask after that are irrelevant and deflections away from the issue.

Anyone else?


And right on cue you prove my point about it being a deflection…..
Sam Lowry
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cowboycwr said:

Sam Lowry said:

cowboycwr said:

Sam Lowry said:

cowboycwr said:

Sam Lowry said:

cowboycwr said:

Sam Lowry said:

Rumor has it there are a ton of Anglo-Saxon performers in the movie as well.

Weird, weird stuff.


But did any of them get cast in roles of an African person? Egyptian? Etc?

Are any female roles being played by men?

If lily-white Robert Pattinson and Tom Holland can play olive-skinned Mediterranean characters, why can't a half-African do the same? Is she more black than they are white? By what standard if so?


Thank you for confirming you have zero clue about Ancient Greece or this topic.

Thank you for...not answering my question, I guess.


You showed that your question is stupid and invalid when you stuck your head up your own backside by not knowing the skin color of Greeks.

Any questions you might ask after that are irrelevant and deflections away from the issue.

Anyone else?


And right on cue you prove my point about it being a deflection…..

And right on cue you prove MY point about your point being a deflection of a deflection of an invalid point that was already pointed out to be an irrelevant deflection.
cowboycwr
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Sam Lowry said:

cowboycwr said:

Sam Lowry said:

cowboycwr said:

Sam Lowry said:

cowboycwr said:

Sam Lowry said:

cowboycwr said:

Sam Lowry said:

Rumor has it there are a ton of Anglo-Saxon performers in the movie as well.

Weird, weird stuff.


But did any of them get cast in roles of an African person? Egyptian? Etc?

Are any female roles being played by men?

If lily-white Robert Pattinson and Tom Holland can play olive-skinned Mediterranean characters, why can't a half-African do the same? Is she more black than they are white? By what standard if so?


Thank you for confirming you have zero clue about Ancient Greece or this topic.

Thank you for...not answering my question, I guess.


You showed that your question is stupid and invalid when you stuck your head up your own backside by not knowing the skin color of Greeks.

Any questions you might ask after that are irrelevant and deflections away from the issue.

Anyone else?


And right on cue you prove my point about it being a deflection…..

And right on cue you prove MY point about your point being a deflection of a deflection of an invalid point that was already pointed out to be an irrelevant deflection.


You never had a point.

Now care to discuss the issue of this dei casting?
Sam Lowry
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cowboycwr said:

Sam Lowry said:

cowboycwr said:

Sam Lowry said:

cowboycwr said:

Sam Lowry said:

cowboycwr said:

Sam Lowry said:

cowboycwr said:

Sam Lowry said:

Rumor has it there are a ton of Anglo-Saxon performers in the movie as well.

Weird, weird stuff.


But did any of them get cast in roles of an African person? Egyptian? Etc?

Are any female roles being played by men?

If lily-white Robert Pattinson and Tom Holland can play olive-skinned Mediterranean characters, why can't a half-African do the same? Is she more black than they are white? By what standard if so?


Thank you for confirming you have zero clue about Ancient Greece or this topic.

Thank you for...not answering my question, I guess.


You showed that your question is stupid and invalid when you stuck your head up your own backside by not knowing the skin color of Greeks.

Any questions you might ask after that are irrelevant and deflections away from the issue.

Anyone else?


And right on cue you prove my point about it being a deflection…..

And right on cue you prove MY point about your point being a deflection of a deflection of an invalid point that was already pointed out to be an irrelevant deflection.


You never had a point.

Now care to discuss the issue of this dei casting?

Well, she is an accomplished actress and an Oscar winner, so it's not like she's unqualified.

Other than the fact that she's black, what makes you say she "didn't earn it?"
4th and Inches
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Sam Lowry said:

cowboycwr said:

Sam Lowry said:

cowboycwr said:

Sam Lowry said:

cowboycwr said:

Sam Lowry said:

cowboycwr said:

Sam Lowry said:

cowboycwr said:

Sam Lowry said:

Rumor has it there are a ton of Anglo-Saxon performers in the movie as well.

Weird, weird stuff.


But did any of them get cast in roles of an African person? Egyptian? Etc?

Are any female roles being played by men?

If lily-white Robert Pattinson and Tom Holland can play olive-skinned Mediterranean characters, why can't a half-African do the same? Is she more black than they are white? By what standard if so?


Thank you for confirming you have zero clue about Ancient Greece or this topic.

Thank you for...not answering my question, I guess.


You showed that your question is stupid and invalid when you stuck your head up your own backside by not knowing the skin color of Greeks.

Any questions you might ask after that are irrelevant and deflections away from the issue.

Anyone else?


And right on cue you prove my point about it being a deflection…..

And right on cue you prove MY point about your point being a deflection of a deflection of an invalid point that was already pointed out to be an irrelevant deflection.


You never had a point.

Now care to discuss the issue of this dei casting?

Well, she is an accomplished actress and an Oscar winner, so it's not like she's unqualified.

Other than the fact that she's black, what makes you say she "didn't earn it?"
she is not start a war pretty.. there are other black actresses that are better suited to the appearance part of the role
Danielsjackson114
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https://dallasexpress.com/national/how-dei-standards-are-rewriting-oscars-history-would-the-godfather-qualify-today/

So she more than likely didn't "earn" it

Unless you think DEI is earning
BearFan33
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I think the audience has spoken loudly already on this topic and Hollywood still didn't get the message. Personally casting is important to me. If someone is supposed to be so beautiful they started a war, they should be very attractive. If someone is supposed to be the worlds greatest warrior, they should look the part. Otherwise I'll be distracted by the disconnect during the film.
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4th and Inches said:

Sam Lowry said:

cowboycwr said:

Sam Lowry said:

cowboycwr said:

Sam Lowry said:

cowboycwr said:

Sam Lowry said:

cowboycwr said:

Sam Lowry said:

cowboycwr said:

Sam Lowry said:

Rumor has it there are a ton of Anglo-Saxon performers in the movie as well.

Weird, weird stuff.


But did any of them get cast in roles of an African person? Egyptian? Etc?

Are any female roles being played by men?

If lily-white Robert Pattinson and Tom Holland can play olive-skinned Mediterranean characters, why can't a half-African do the same? Is she more black than they are white? By what standard if so?


Thank you for confirming you have zero clue about Ancient Greece or this topic.

Thank you for...not answering my question, I guess.


You showed that your question is stupid and invalid when you stuck your head up your own backside by not knowing the skin color of Greeks.

Any questions you might ask after that are irrelevant and deflections away from the issue.

Anyone else?


And right on cue you prove my point about it being a deflection…..

And right on cue you prove MY point about your point being a deflection of a deflection of an invalid point that was already pointed out to be an irrelevant deflection.


You never had a point.

Now care to discuss the issue of this dei casting?

Well, she is an accomplished actress and an Oscar winner, so it's not like she's unqualified.

Other than the fact that she's black, what makes you say she "didn't earn it?"

she is not start a war pretty.. there are other black actresses that are better suited to the appearance part of the role

I like the picture you posted earlier. Would take Lupita over the one Forest posted. That's all personal taste.
Sam Lowry
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Danielsjackson114 said:

https://dallasexpress.com/national/how-dei-standards-are-rewriting-oscars-history-would-the-godfather-qualify-today/

So she more than likely didn't "earn" it

Unless you think DEI is earning

I hate those rules, but they don't reflect on her talent.
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More Direct Issue:

taking a movie category that is rife with massive financial flops (when done in big budget fashion): historical big story

cue Troy, Alexander, Kingdom of Heaven, Ben-Hur (remake)

Going big budget in a dangerous territory and then doubling down via DEI casting is a special kind of stupid and hubris.

Like Lowry level of dumb.
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Adriacus Peratuun said:

More Direct Issue:

taking a movie category that is rife with massive financial flops (when done in big budget fashion): historical big story

cue Troy, Alexander, Kingdom of Heaven, Ben-Hur (remake)

Going big budget in a dangerous territory and then doubling down via DEI casting is a special kind of stupid and hubris.

Like Lowry level of dumb.


Troy made almost $500 million worldwide and is in the top 20 R-rated films of all time, along with The Passion of the Christ and Saving Private Ryan. Not to mention Gladiator, The Last Samurai, Braveheart, etc.
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Sam Lowry said:

cowboycwr said:

Sam Lowry said:

cowboycwr said:

Sam Lowry said:

cowboycwr said:

Sam Lowry said:

cowboycwr said:

Sam Lowry said:

cowboycwr said:

Sam Lowry said:

Rumor has it there are a ton of Anglo-Saxon performers in the movie as well.

Weird, weird stuff.


But did any of them get cast in roles of an African person? Egyptian? Etc?

Are any female roles being played by men?

If lily-white Robert Pattinson and Tom Holland can play olive-skinned Mediterranean characters, why can't a half-African do the same? Is she more black than they are white? By what standard if so?


Thank you for confirming you have zero clue about Ancient Greece or this topic.

Thank you for...not answering my question, I guess.


You showed that your question is stupid and invalid when you stuck your head up your own backside by not knowing the skin color of Greeks.

Any questions you might ask after that are irrelevant and deflections away from the issue.

Anyone else?


And right on cue you prove my point about it being a deflection…..

And right on cue you prove MY point about your point being a deflection of a deflection of an invalid point that was already pointed out to be an irrelevant deflection.


You never had a point.

Now care to discuss the issue of this dei casting?

Well, she is an accomplished actress and an Oscar winner, so it's not like she's unqualified.

Other than the fact that she's black, what makes you say she "didn't earn it?"

Awards are meaningless as they are just handed out based on check boxes for DEI not actual accomplishments or how good a movie is
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Sam Lowry said:

Adriacus Peratuun said:

More Direct Issue:

taking a movie category that is rife with massive financial flops (when done in big budget fashion): historical big story

cue Troy, Alexander, Kingdom of Heaven, Ben-Hur (remake)

Going big budget in a dangerous territory and then doubling down via DEI casting is a special kind of stupid and hubris.

Like Lowry level of dumb.


Troy made almost $500 million worldwide and is in the top 20 R-rated films of all time, along with The Passion of the Christ and Saving Private Ryan. Not to mention Gladiator, The Last Samurai, Braveheart, etc.


Wrong again. Very Lowry.

Due to the huge budget, Troy had to pre sell foreign distribution at very Buyer Friendly rates.

WB hit a multitude of issues after AOL merger. Half billion dollar regulatory settlement. Massive debt service. Had to offshore a big chunk of the Troy budget. And they desperately needed to make back the budget domestically. Didn't happen. Not close. The overseas box office money was mostly kept overseas. WB basically broke even when accounting for time value. And for a major studio to tie up a huge chunk of their production budget in one movie and basically break even is a DISASTER outcome. WB was forced to sell their music division simply to tread water.

But keep up your nonsense. That is what you do.
Sam Lowry
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Adriacus Peratuun said:

Sam Lowry said:

Adriacus Peratuun said:

More Direct Issue:

taking a movie category that is rife with massive financial flops (when done in big budget fashion): historical big story

cue Troy, Alexander, Kingdom of Heaven, Ben-Hur (remake)

Going big budget in a dangerous territory and then doubling down via DEI casting is a special kind of stupid and hubris.

Like Lowry level of dumb.


Troy made almost $500 million worldwide and is in the top 20 R-rated films of all time, along with The Passion of the Christ and Saving Private Ryan. Not to mention Gladiator, The Last Samurai, Braveheart, etc.


Wrong again. Very Lowry.

Due to the huge budget, Troy had to pre sell foreign distribution at very Buyer Friendly rates.

WB hit a multitude of issues after AOL merger. Half billion dollar regulatory settlement. Massive debt service. Had to offshore a big chunk of the Troy budget. And they desperately needed to make back the budget domestically. Didn't happen. Not close. The overseas box office money was mostly kept overseas. WB basically broke even when accounting for time value. And for a major studio to tie up a huge chunk of their production budget in one movie and basically break even is a DISASTER outcome. WB was forced to sell their music division simply to tread water.

But keep up your nonsense. That is what you do.

You can hardly blame one movie for the merger disaster or the state of the music industry in 2004. WB had already decided to sell the music division before Troy was even released.
Frank Galvin
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For 350 years being an Anglo male was a necessary condition for almost any decent job in the colonies/America. Anglo males are now very upset about racial discrimination? Call me in a couple of centuries.
Danielsjackson114
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Yeah sorry. Your woke bs doesn't work here
Frank Galvin
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Danielsjackson114 said:

Yeah sorry. Your woke bs doesn't work here

Neither does logic or facts, so it is in good company.
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Frank Galvin said:

Danielsjackson114 said:

Yeah sorry. Your woke bs doesn't work here

Neither does logic or facts, so it is in good company.

Skin color aside, casting Achilles as a stick thin transgender person seems weird, doesn't it?
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The interesting component is that Nolan will quite possibly destroy his own production company and also deal Comcast (Universal is distributor) a significant blow.

Wondering how much (if any) Nolan hedged his bet through outside investment in the project. If not, huge exposure. Even Coppola's production company couldn't survive one bad film despite all of the prior success.
Danielsjackson114
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I'm just mad that the left woke DEI Democrat bs has totally ruined this movie for me

Ugh
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Frank Galvin
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Porteroso said:

Frank Galvin said:

Danielsjackson114 said:

Yeah sorry. Your woke bs doesn't work here

Neither does logic or facts, so it is in good company.

Skin color aside, casting Achilles as a stick thin transgender person seems weird, doesn't it?

So did casting a black George Washington in Hamilton. It worked. Maybe this will and maybe it won't.

Artists should see things differently, otherwise lets just watch documentaries. I am not going to pre-judge this one as a problem because Christopher Nolan is good at making movies.
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Danielsjackson114 said:

I'm just mad that the left woke DEI Democrat bs has totally ruined this movie for me

Ugh


Fortunately you can have some fresh outrage when you see the vacuum sealed armor. Basically Marvel superhero suits.
Danielsjackson114
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noooooooo
Adriacus Peratuun
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Danielsjackson114 said:

noooooooo


The Peter Jackson fan base has gone nuts over the leaked photos of "Armor brought to you by Samsonite".
Redbrickbear
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Frank Galvin said:

For 350 years being an Anglo male was a necessary condition for almost any decent job in the colonies/America. Anglo males are now very upset about racial discrimination? Call me in a couple of centuries.


1. Even if we define the USA as starting in 1776....from that date to the Civil Rights act it was 189 years.

2. Plenty of White people who were not Anglo who had decent jobs in America.

And other groups...like Jewish immigrants broke in fairly quickly as well and saw lots of success despite certain discriminatory attitudes.

America had more upward mobility than almost any country in the world (and still does)

Something we often forget. America was never as racist as other places. We were an outlier in meritocracy. That was expanded out every generation and more people allowed to rise without discrimination

3. Plenty of the worst jobs and grunt labor was in fact done by White people (Irish especially) for generations.

4. Regardless of past racial discrimination 180 years ago (mostly directed against African Americans) that is still not a logical excuse for modern day discrimination against anyone for reasons of race, gender,& national origin.

And its actually against the law.

Porteroso
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Frank Galvin said:

Porteroso said:

Frank Galvin said:

Danielsjackson114 said:

Yeah sorry. Your woke bs doesn't work here

Neither does logic or facts, so it is in good company.

Skin color aside, casting Achilles as a stick thin transgender person seems weird, doesn't it?

So did casting a black George Washington in Hamilton. It worked. Maybe this will and maybe it won't.

Artists should see things differently, otherwise lets just watch documentaries. I am not going to pre-judge this one as a problem because Christopher Nolan is good at making movies.

Have you seen Hamilton? It is really great, saw it in London. Totally irrelevant here.
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Frank Galvin said:

Porteroso said:

Frank Galvin said:

Danielsjackson114 said:

Yeah sorry. Your woke bs doesn't work here

Neither does logic or facts, so it is in good company.

Skin color aside, casting Achilles as a stick thin transgender person seems weird, doesn't it?

So did casting a black George Washington in Hamilton. It worked. Maybe this will and maybe it won't.

Artists should see things differently, otherwise lets just watch documentaries. I am not going to pre-judge this one as a problem because Christopher Nolan is good at making movies.

I'm going to try to have an open mind and likely watch it when it is available on one of the services (not at the movies). If I cant get past a small person beating up massive dudes I'll change the channel.
 
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