Redbrickbear said:

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Mitch Blood Green said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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Mitch Blood Green said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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Mitch Blood Green said:

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Can I ask a question? Do you guys realize this ain't a real *****?

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Well actually the Trojan war was a real event…

Now the mythos around that war and the people who fought it is obviously story telling.

But what is the point again of casting non-Greek looking actors in a Greek story?

At best its a strange choice that hurts the story telling itself…"world creation" and all that jazz…since the whole point is to get the audience to buy in and lose themselves in the epic & story.

Not constantly having to question the casting decisions

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I don't understand the uproar before the movie is released. Hollywood has been casting characters (especially fictional ones) across multiple races for years. (Red from Shawshank comes to mind).

Taylor in Cleopatra is another one. This is druggie Elon Musk driven.

Jesus also comes to mind. He's mostly likely not white and no way has has six pack abs.

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You sort of keep ignoring what folks have posting and just keep doing the cut and paste job ... but I will entertain your silliness with a serious response:
- I think you need to understand the difference between casting fictional characters and non-fictional characters
- Before five years ago, Hollywood attempted to make actors resemble what their historical counterparts would have looked like - Taylor looked more like Cleopatra than Will Smith's bald wife; that's why it is called acting and there is costuming; but no one is going to believe Helen of Troy was blek or this chick has a "face that launched a thousand ships"
- The Jesus example is an immature distraction; cultures across the world depict Jesus in a way that resonates with the local people so as to provide comfort and peace; no one thinks Jesus literally was an American, but it is ironic the amount of butthurt LWNJ Christians spend on "white Jesus"

I could ask you another simple question you likely would avoid: would you be upset personally and do you think there would be outrage if Sydney Sweeney was cast as Rosa Parks in a biopic? Do you think you and Hamas Harry would defend the casting or condemn it?

At the end of the day, the eye-rolling is just the stupid Didn't Earn It virtue signaling in a world were black people make up 12% of the population but we have to pretend bleks were in Victorian England, bleks were in the War of the Roses, bleks were Norse fighters ... no one is making a movie about Africans selling Africans into slavery starring Ryan Gosling as a slave sold to the British by Will Smith.

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There were blacks Vikings as the Vikings were travelers and enlsavers. They gathered people and things along their path.

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Very unlikely there were any Black Africans as Vikings

They tended to raid the British isles and mainland Europe for their vast majority of their slaves. And rarely (though did on occasion) raid the Mediterranean basin area.

Now it's not impossible that in a raid on a Spanish, Arab, or Berber area they could not have captured a black African person(s)…but then that would have been a person they took as a slave (like the Irish or Britons) and not have been considered a warrior by them and unlikely to have been made a freeman or raised to warrior status.

It's I guess technically possible but no historical evidence for it and highly unlikely

[Modern DNA research confirms that the vast majority of people during the Viking Age had deep roots in Norway, Sweden, and Denmark.

Slaves and Captives: The Vikings were notorious for capturing slaves (called thralls) and trading extensively as far as the Middle East and Northern Africa. Historical records and archaeological excavations of Viking sites indicate the presence of enslaved people of various ancestriesincluding some of African origin. These individuals were typically captives rather than active Viking warriors or explorers.]

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Redbrickbear said:

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Mitch Blood Green said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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Mitch Blood Green said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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Mitch Blood Green said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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Mitch Blood Green said:

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eople whoCan I ask a question? Do you guys realize this ain't a real *****?

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Well actually the Trojan war was a real event…

Now the mythos around that war and the people who fought it is obviously story telling.

But what is the point again of casting non-Greek looking actors in a Greek story?

At best its a strange choice that hurts the story telling itself…"world creation" and all that jazz…since the whole point is to get the audience to buy in and lose themselves in the epic & story.

Not constantly having to question the casting decisions

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I don't understand the uproar before the movie is released. Hollywood has been casting characters (especially fictional ones) across multiple races for years. (Red from Shawshank comes to mind).

Taylor in Cleopatra is another one. This is druggie Elon Musk driven.

Jesus also comes to mind. He's mostly likely not white and no way has has six pack abs.

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You sort of keep ignoring what folks have posting and just keep doing the cut and paste job ... but I will entertain your silliness with a serious response:
- I think you need to understand the difference between casting fictional characters and non-fictional characters
- Before five years ago, Hollywood attempted to make actors resemble what their historical counterparts would have looked like - Taylor looked more like Cleopatra than Will Smith's bald wife; that's why it is called acting and there is costuming; but no one is going to believe Helen of Troy was blek or this chick has a "face that launched a thousand ships"
- The Jesus example is an immature distraction; cultures across the world depict Jesus in a way that resonates with the local people so as to provide comfort and peace; no one thinks Jesus literally was an American, but it is ironic the amount of butthurt LWNJ Christians spend on "white Jesus"

I could ask you another simple question you likely would avoid: would you be upset personally and do you think there would be outrage if Sydney Sweeney was cast as Rosa Parks in a biopic? Do you think you and Hamas Harry would defend the casting or condemn it?

At the end of the day, the eye-rolling is just the stupid Didn't Earn It virtue signaling in a world were black people make up 12% of the population but we have to pretend bleks were in Victorian England, bleks were in the War of the Roses, bleks were Norse fighters ... no one is making a movie about Africans selling Africans into slavery starring Ryan Gosling as a slave sold to the British by Will Smith.

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https://www.historyextra.com/period/victorian/black-victorians-britons-famous-who/

There were blacks Vikings as the Vikings were travelers and enlsavers. They gathered people and things along their path.

Not all things are for all people. This might not be for you. It's doing nothing for me. I'll watch Shawshank again. I'll get mad at Red for you.

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As usual you avoid the direct questions for the straw man, but not surprising. You're having a circle jerk with the same idiot that claims there was a genocide in Gaza but cannot explain why the population has increased since 10/7.

Would you support Sydney Sweeney playing Rosa Parks? Do you think there would be any outrage? Do you think there would be outrage if Ryan Gossling played an African slave sold to a British captain played by Will Smith?

I love the logic that since there are Albino black people then all Nigerians should be portrayed as white. LOL.

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If Sydney Sweeney playing Rosa Parks drew people into the theatre, it would happen.

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The fact that she was not cast as Helen of Troy is a good example of your statement being wrong

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Mitch Blood Green said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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Mitch Blood Green said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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Mitch Blood Green said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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Mitch Blood Green said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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Mitch Blood Green said:

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eople whoCan I ask a question? Do you guys realize this ain't a real *****?

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Well actually the Trojan war was a real event…

Now the mythos around that war and the people who fought it is obviously story telling.

But what is the point again of casting non-Greek looking actors in a Greek story?

At best its a strange choice that hurts the story telling itself…"world creation" and all that jazz…since the whole point is to get the audience to buy in and lose themselves in the epic & story.

Not constantly having to question the casting decisions

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I don't understand the uproar before the movie is released. Hollywood has been casting characters (especially fictional ones) across multiple races for years. (Red from Shawshank comes to mind).

Taylor in Cleopatra is another one. This is druggie Elon Musk driven.

Jesus also comes to mind. He's mostly likely not white and no way has has six pack abs.

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You sort of keep ignoring what folks have posting and just keep doing the cut and paste job ... but I will entertain your silliness with a serious response:
- I think you need to understand the difference between casting fictional characters and non-fictional characters
- Before five years ago, Hollywood attempted to make actors resemble what their historical counterparts would have looked like - Taylor looked more like Cleopatra than Will Smith's bald wife; that's why it is called acting and there is costuming; but no one is going to believe Helen of Troy was blek or this chick has a "face that launched a thousand ships"
- The Jesus example is an immature distraction; cultures across the world depict Jesus in a way that resonates with the local people so as to provide comfort and peace; no one thinks Jesus literally was an American, but it is ironic the amount of butthurt LWNJ Christians spend on "white Jesus"

I could ask you another simple question you likely would avoid: would you be upset personally and do you think there would be outrage if Sydney Sweeney was cast as Rosa Parks in a biopic? Do you think you and Hamas Harry would defend the casting or condemn it?

At the end of the day, the eye-rolling is just the stupid Didn't Earn It virtue signaling in a world were black people make up 12% of the population but we have to pretend bleks were in Victorian England, bleks were in the War of the Roses, bleks were Norse fighters ... no one is making a movie about Africans selling Africans into slavery starring Ryan Gosling as a slave sold to the British by Will Smith.

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https://www.historyextra.com/period/victorian/black-victorians-britons-famous-who/

There were blacks Vikings as the Vikings were travelers and enlsavers. They gathered people and things along their path.

Not all things are for all people. This might not be for you. It's doing nothing for me. I'll watch Shawshank again. I'll get mad at Red for you.

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As usual you avoid the direct questions for the straw man, but not surprising. You're having a circle jerk with the same idiot that claims there was a genocide in Gaza but cannot explain why the population has increased since 10/7.

Would you support Sydney Sweeney playing Rosa Parks? Do you think there would be any outrage? Do you think there would be outrage if Ryan Gossling played an African slave sold to a British captain played by Will Smith?

I love the logic that since there are Albino black people then all Nigerians should be portrayed as white. LOL.

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If Sydney Sweeney playing Rosa Parks drew people into the theatre, it would happen.

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The fact that she was not cast as Helen of Troy is a good example of your statement being wrong

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I don't know why she wasn't cast as Helen. I know Nolan directed "The Dark Knight." He knows what he's doing.

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Mitch Blood Green said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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Mitch Blood Green said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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Mitch Blood Green said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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Mitch Blood Green said:

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Can I ask a question? Do you guys realize this ain't a real *****?

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Well actually the Trojan war was a real event…

Now the mythos around that war and the people who fought it is obviously story telling.

But what is the point again of casting non-Greek looking actors in a Greek story?

At best its a strange choice that hurts the story telling itself…"world creation" and all that jazz…since the whole point is to get the audience to buy in and lose themselves in the epic & story.

Not constantly having to question the casting decisions

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I don't understand the uproar before the movie is released. Hollywood has been casting characters (especially fictional ones) across multiple races for years. (Red from Shawshank comes to mind).

Taylor in Cleopatra is another one. This is druggie Elon Musk driven.

Jesus also comes to mind. He's mostly likely not white and no way has has six pack abs.

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You sort of keep ignoring what folks have posting and just keep doing the cut and paste job ... but I will entertain your silliness with a serious response:
- I think you need to understand the difference between casting fictional characters and non-fictional characters
- Before five years ago, Hollywood attempted to make actors resemble what their historical counterparts would have looked like - Taylor looked more like Cleopatra than Will Smith's bald wife; that's why it is called acting and there is costuming; but no one is going to believe Helen of Troy was blek or this chick has a "face that launched a thousand ships"
- The Jesus example is an immature distraction; cultures across the world depict Jesus in a way that resonates with the local people so as to provide comfort and peace; no one thinks Jesus literally was an American, but it is ironic the amount of butthurt LWNJ Christians spend on "white Jesus"

I could ask you another simple question you likely would avoid: would you be upset personally and do you think there would be outrage if Sydney Sweeney was cast as Rosa Parks in a biopic? Do you think you and Hamas Harry would defend the casting or condemn it?

At the end of the day, the eye-rolling is just the stupid Didn't Earn It virtue signaling in a world were black people make up 12% of the population but we have to pretend bleks were in Victorian England, bleks were in the War of the Roses, bleks were Norse fighters ... no one is making a movie about Africans selling Africans into slavery starring Ryan Gosling as a slave sold to the British by Will Smith.

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There were blacks Vikings as the Vikings were travelers and enlsavers. They gathered people and things along their path.

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Very unlikely there were any Black Africans as Vikings

They tended to raid the British isles and mainland Europe for their vast majority of their slaves. And rarely (though did on occasion) raid the Mediterranean basin area.

Now it's not impossible that in a raid on a Spanish, Arab, or Berber area they could not have captured a black African person(s)…but then that would have been a person they took as a slave (like the Irish or Britons) and not have been considered a warrior by them and unlikely to have been made a freeman or raised to warrior status.

It's I guess technically possible but no historical evidence for it and highly unlikely

[Modern DNA research confirms that the vast majority of people during the Viking Age had deep roots in Norway, Sweden, and Denmark.

Slaves and Captives: The Vikings were notorious for capturing slaves (called thralls) and trading extensively as far as the Middle East and Northern Africa. Historical records and archaeological excavations of Viking sites indicate the presence of enslaved people of various ancestriesincluding some of African origin. These individuals were typically captives rather than active Viking warriors or explorers.]

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I personally know John Randle and Alfred Anderson. There were black Vikings.

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I would have no issue with casting Elliot Page to play Talarico in a biopic. pic.twitter.com/ksQEs9v1d6

— Flappr (@flapprdotnet) May 27, 2026

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It's interesting how this only goes in one direction.

Will Hollywood allow a white, Hispanic or Asian actor to play MLK or Obama or Jesse Jackson or LeBron?

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Johnny Bear said:

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midgett said:

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It's interesting how this only goes in one direction.

Will Hollywood allow a white, Hispanic or Asian actor to play MLK or Obama or Jesse Jackson or LeBron?

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Of course not, and if any producer tried to pull that off, it would be the end of their career especially if they are themselves white. It's for the same reason there is no "DEI" for white athletes in the NBA or the NFL. For the lefty DEI proponents it never goes both ways.

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Mitch Blood Green said:

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midgett said:

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It's interesting how this only goes in one direction.

Will Hollywood allow a white, Hispanic or Asian actor to play MLK or Obama or Jesse Jackson or LeBron?

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Of course not, and if any producer tried to pull that off, it would be the end of their career especially if they are themselves white. It's for the same reason there is no "DEI" for white athletes in the NBA or the NFL. For the lefty DEI proponents it never goes both ways.

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You're also not gonna see a black guy play Ronald Reagan or an Asian play JFK.

Is the NBA and NFL only the product on the field? Or, by chance, will I experience a diverse organization if I call into the Mavericks office?

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Johnny Bear said:

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Mitch Blood Green said:

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Johnny Bear said:

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midgett said:

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It's interesting how this only goes in one direction.

Will Hollywood allow a white, Hispanic or Asian actor to play MLK or Obama or Jesse Jackson or LeBron?

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Of course not, and if any producer tried to pull that off, it would be the end of their career especially if they are themselves white. It's for the same reason there is no "DEI" for white athletes in the NBA or the NFL. For the lefty DEI proponents it never goes both ways.

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You're also not gonna see a black guy play Ronald Reagan or an Asian play JFK.

Is the NBA and NFL only the product on the field? Or, by chance, will I experience a diverse organization if I call into the Mavericks office?

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Any more the way things are, I wouldn't be so sure about the Reagan or JFK examples you're using. At any rate, you're missing the point that this kind of thing always only goes in one direction. Nobody would even think of sprinkling in white actors and actresses in a movie about slavery so "DEI" could be evenly applied, and it would of course be stupid to do so but not any dumber than DEI forced usage of racially out of place actors and actresses (because of either historical or traditional facts) in other movies.

And I'm happy the NBA in the NFL operate as meritocracies per the composition of their teams. That's exactly the way everything else should be as well, especially given that the whole premise for DEI (i.e., that America is inherently systemically racist against people of color) is false.

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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For you mouth-breathers, this is why folks are eye-rolling about the Didn't Earn It casting:
https://variety.com/2026/film/features/moana-creatives-polynesian-culture-traditions-1236807177/

Aspects such as traditional Mori tribal tattoos, known as T moko, the rich expression of history through dance, and generations of Polynesian traditions are the beating heart of Thomas Kail's adaptation. That left the film's cast and creatives feeling a sense of pride at seeing their culture represented on screen.

People would care less about tokens being cast as historical figures if five minutes ago "representation matters." The fact that there was not a single Greek cast in the movie should be called T'RACIST based on Hollywood's own apparent standards. In reality, it is just another example of lack of principles, hypocrisy, and double standards.

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Mitch Blood Green said:

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For you mouth-breathers, this is why folks are eye-rolling about the Didn't Earn It casting:
https://variety.com/2026/film/features/moana-creatives-polynesian-culture-traditions-1236807177/

Aspects such as traditional Mori tribal tattoos, known as T moko, the rich expression of history through dance, and generations of Polynesian traditions are the beating heart of Thomas Kail's adaptation. That left the film's cast and creatives feeling a sense of pride at seeing their culture represented on screen.

People would care less about tokens being cast as historical figures if five minutes ago "representation matters." The fact that there was not a single Greek cast in the movie should be called T'RACIST based on Hollywood's own apparent standards. In reality, it is just another example of lack of principles, hypocrisy, and double standards.

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I was watching a Hanna Barbara movie. They didn't cast a real white horse as El Kabong!

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fubar said:

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The fact that there was not a single Greek cast in the movie should be called T'RACIST based on Hollywood's own apparent standards. In reality, it is just another example of lack of principles, hypocrisy, and double standards.

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And yet the only complaint you clowns have is about casting a black woman.

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It is unfortunate that Christopher Nolan, the cast, crew and money people won't reap the benefit of your $3 matinee ticket purchase. The studio is likely to go bankrupt, but that's what they get.

It is also unfortunate that other theater patrons won't get to experience you testing new ringtones for your phone during the flick; kicking the seats in front of you; and whining until mommy ponies up the cash for some Milk Duds.

America is so screwed.

And it's all the Negroes' fault.

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Lol. You sound just like a movie executive who sees this post and thinks this is a one off, random person making this statement and not realizing that it is the sentiment of a large portion of society.

A Greek woman had been recasted as a black woman.

A woman is playing the role of a man.

And people will skip the movie.

The movie will bomb and the executives will cry "what went wrong? Why didn't people watch our movie?"

And they will not truly understand the reason why.

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Adriacus Peratuun said:

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The interesting component is that Nolan will quite possibly destroy his own production company and also deal Comcast (Universal is distributor) a significant blow.

Wondering how much (if any) Nolan hedged his bet through outside investment in the project. If not, huge exposure. Even Coppola's production company couldn't survive one bad film despite all of the prior success.

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Danielsjackson114 said:

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libs enjoying DEI

Who would have thought?

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FLBear5630 said:

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Don't go if it offends that much. Just never seen Greek Mythology be such a point of truism, a hill to die on...

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Mitch Blood Green said:

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Danielsjackson114 said:

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libs enjoying DEI

Who would have thought?

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Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson graduated Magna cum laude from Harvard-Radcliffe College and cum laude from Harvard Law School where she was an editor of the Harvard Law Review. She had 20 years experience as a lawyer and 10 years experience as a Federal judge when she was nominated for the Supreme Court.

You call her a "DEI hire."

Mark Wayne Mullin has a high school diploma and a 2 year community college degree in construction management, NO military or law enforcement service, and was a cow-calf rancher. When he was nominated as the secretary of Homeland Security.

You call this "meritocracy."

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Mitch Blood Green said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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Mitch Blood Green said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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Mitch Blood Green said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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Mitch Blood Green said:

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Can I ask a question? Do you guys realize this ain't a real *****?

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Well actually the Trojan war was a real event…

Now the mythos around that war and the people who fought it is obviously story telling.

But what is the point again of casting non-Greek looking actors in a Greek story?

At best its a strange choice that hurts the story telling itself…"world creation" and all that jazz…since the whole point is to get the audience to buy in and lose themselves in the epic & story.

Not constantly having to question the casting decisions

---

I don't understand the uproar before the movie is released. Hollywood has been casting characters (especially fictional ones) across multiple races for years. (Red from Shawshank comes to mind).

Taylor in Cleopatra is another one. This is druggie Elon Musk driven.

Jesus also comes to mind. He's mostly likely not white and no way has has six pack abs.

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You sort of keep ignoring what folks have posting and just keep doing the cut and paste job ... but I will entertain your silliness with a serious response:
- I think you need to understand the difference between casting fictional characters and non-fictional characters
- Before five years ago, Hollywood attempted to make actors resemble what their historical counterparts would have looked like - Taylor looked more like Cleopatra than Will Smith's bald wife; that's why it is called acting and there is costuming; but no one is going to believe Helen of Troy was blek or this chick has a "face that launched a thousand ships"
- The Jesus example is an immature distraction; cultures across the world depict Jesus in a way that resonates with the local people so as to provide comfort and peace; no one thinks Jesus literally was an American, but it is ironic the amount of butthurt LWNJ Christians spend on "white Jesus"

I could ask you another simple question you likely would avoid: would you be upset personally and do you think there would be outrage if Sydney Sweeney was cast as Rosa Parks in a biopic? Do you think you and Hamas Harry would defend the casting or condemn it?

At the end of the day, the eye-rolling is just the stupid Didn't Earn It virtue signaling in a world were black people make up 12% of the population but we have to pretend bleks were in Victorian England, bleks were in the War of the Roses, bleks were Norse fighters ... no one is making a movie about Africans selling Africans into slavery starring Ryan Gosling as a slave sold to the British by Will Smith.

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There were blacks Vikings as the Vikings were travelers and enlsavers. They gathered people and things along their path.

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Very unlikely there were any Black Africans as Vikings

They tended to raid the British isles and mainland Europe for their vast majority of their slaves. And rarely (though did on occasion) raid the Mediterranean basin area.

Now it's not impossible that in a raid on a Spanish, Arab, or Berber area they could not have captured a black African person(s)…but then that would have been a person they took as a slave (like the Irish or Britons) and not have been considered a warrior by them and unlikely to have been made a freeman or raised to warrior status.

It's I guess technically possible but no historical evidence for it and highly unlikely

[Modern DNA research confirms that the vast majority of people during the Viking Age had deep roots in Norway, Sweden, and Denmark.

Slaves and Captives: The Vikings were notorious for capturing slaves (called thralls) and trading extensively as far as the Middle East and Northern Africa. Historical records and archaeological excavations of Viking sites indicate the presence of enslaved people of various ancestriesincluding some of African origin. These individuals were typically captives rather than active Viking warriors or explorers.]

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I personally know John Randle and Alfred Anderson. There were black Vikings.

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Mitch Blood Green said:

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Danielsjackson114 said:

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libs enjoying DEI

Who would have thought?

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Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson graduated Magna cum laude from Harvard-Radcliffe College and cum laude from Harvard Law School where she was an editor of the Harvard Law Review. She had 20 years experience as a lawyer and 10 years experience as a Federal judge when she was nominated for the Supreme Court.

You call her a "DEI hire."

Mark Wayne Mullin has a high school diploma and a 2 year community college degree in construction management, NO military or law enforcement service, and was a cow-calf rancher. When he was nominated as the secretary of Homeland Security.

You call this "meritocracy."

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midgett said:

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I'm not as familiar with Greek (?) history as I should. Don't know much about Helen of Troy. I do know they have a trans man (woman to man) playing Achilles. Essentially a woman is playing a great Greek warrior. SMH.

I think the original poster's point has to do with the woke Disney culture. There is validity to it.

Snow White and lots of other classics were remade with all manner of wokeness. Completely unnecessary.

We've had a pretty good bull market for the past 5 years (except 2022). Disney's stock is down almost 50%. Why offend the sensibilities of half your audience? I understand a few attempts. When they repeatedly blow up in your face (profits), you'd think Disney would stop being so blatant about it.

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