Oldbear83 said:

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FLBear: " Clear enough?"

That you are evasive, refuse to criticize Fauci much less hold him accountable, and have no sympathy for millions of people genuinely harmed by Fauci's actions, completely clear.

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You and your ilk have no understanding of the weight of those decisions. Not every decision works. The information when the decisions were made was not complete. It is easy 6 years later to poke holes, to say you wouldn't do that. Bean counters are good at that. They are no where to be found when a decision has to be made in the heat of the moment. I have worked with a lot of CFOs.

You really think Fauci, a guy that dedicated his life to infectious disease treatment and serving the public crafted this to get rich? Birx plotted the best way to make money on COVID? You and you crew have spend too much time in Board Rooms, people like that do not function like that. People don't spend 50 years to make things worse.

See my last, still very much on the mark.

Yawn, how about discussing rather than trying to be clever.

Because you just make shyte up, and are a complete moron

FLBear5630 said:

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Yawn, how about discussing rather than trying to be clever.

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I put out the facts, but you ran from them.

Kind of hard to discuss Fauci's crimes with someone who apparently would marry him.

Ran from them?

There is nothing but circumstantial stances taken in snippets of texts. You are looking a foot deep into a mile crevice (analogy, letting DJ and HB know it is not literal, i know you get it/ ) Look into the details, the guy had legitimate discussions on suspected and theoretical issues. But we were not in normal testing dur to the Pandemic. I get the Pandemic pardon and the liability exemption on shots. Emergency situations. No issues.

Xou say millions died because of Fauci, but the facts don't bear that out. Lots of RFK level rhetoric, very short on facts. The science does not back it. Like MRNA rewriting your DNA. RNA cannot rewrite DNA. Yet, there will be those on here saying ot does, watched too many XFiles.

(We probably couldn't test now, Trump DOGE'ed them, like our USFA inspectors as E Coli and worse are getting through more often.)

nothing to see here

Mr. follow the science refuses 2nd senate hearing

This dude needs to get the death penalty already. Domestic terrorist

FLBear's devotion to Dictator Fauci continues unabated

Oldbear83 said:

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FLBear's devotion to Dictator Fauci continues unabated

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I should just join the pitchfork line because Rand Paul decides he wants to get on a soapbox?

Every item you brought up when you research it, there is nothing to prosecute. Some of it is distasteful, some comical and some discussions you would expect in that emergency situation. But, prosecute? No. He did everything with the consent of the Executive Branch and it all seems transparent.

He is the whipping boy du jour for the mid terms... Simple as that, even Trump said his pardon should stand.

We get it, you hate the duly-elected President, but will die on the hill to protect your Lord and Savior Fauci.

Oldbear83 said:

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We get it, you hate the duly-elected President, but will die on the hill to protect your Lord and Savior Fauci.

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There are 50 states, not one is bringing charges, why? Why is this Congressional reading of personal notes ALL there is if it is so dastardly. None of it happened in States? No state populations were impacted?

Why? You are smart, you really think if this stuff was true they would just let him walk???? How about Texas or Florida? They are red through and through. Nothing.

Again, it's clear that you cannot abide anyone holding Fauci accountable.

To the point that you completely lose perspective or any sympathy for the millions he harmed.

Interesting, given your other posts, that where Fauci is concerned it's completely fine as long as no charges are brought.

Your hypocrisy here is massive.

Oldbear83 said:

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Again, it's clear that you cannot abide anyone holding Fauci accountable.

To the point that you completely lose perspective or any sympathy for the millions he harmed.

Interesting, given your other posts, that where Fauci is concerned it's completely fine as long as no charges are brought.

Your hypocrisy here is massive.

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What millions? Please, seriously one scientific paper that shows that the COVID vaccine was the cause of millions of people harmed. Please. Real science, not some pseudo-Bannon speculation because you knew 3 people... Real science. Oh I forgot, they are all in it together to fudge the numbers. It is fake news... Got it.

FLBear5630 said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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Again, it's clear that you cannot abide anyone holding Fauci accountable.

To the point that you completely lose perspective or any sympathy for the millions he harmed.

Interesting, given your other posts, that where Fauci is concerned it's completely fine as long as no charges are brought.

Your hypocrisy here is massive.

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What millions? Please, seriously one scientific paper that shows that the COVID vaccine was the cause of millions of people harmed. Please. Real science, not some pseudo-Bannon speculation because you knew 3 people... Real science. Oh I forgot, they are all in it together to fudge the numbers. It is fake news... Got it.

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Since all you do now is repeat your blather, I shall simply remind you that you are a hypocrite:

Again, it's clear that you cannot abide anyone holding Fauci accountable.

To the point that you completely lose perspective or any sympathy for the millions he harmed.

Interesting, given your other posts, that where Fauci is concerned it's completely fine as long as no charges are brought.

Your hypocrisy here is massive.

Oldbear83 said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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Again, it's clear that you cannot abide anyone holding Fauci accountable.

To the point that you completely lose perspective or any sympathy for the millions he harmed.

Interesting, given your other posts, that where Fauci is concerned it's completely fine as long as no charges are brought.

Your hypocrisy here is massive.

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What millions? Please, seriously one scientific paper that shows that the COVID vaccine was the cause of millions of people harmed. Please. Real science, not some pseudo-Bannon speculation because you knew 3 people... Real science. Oh I forgot, they are all in it together to fudge the numbers. It is fake news... Got it.

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Since all you do now is repeat your blather, I shall simply remind you that you are a hypocrite:

Again, it's clear that you cannot abide anyone holding Fauci accountable.

To the point that you completely lose perspective or any sympathy for the millions he harmed.

Interesting, given your other posts, that where Fauci is concerned it's completely fine as long as no charges are brought.

Your hypocrisy here is massive.

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Please explain what he did. You have not produced any scientific studies showing "millions harmed". I actually think Warp Speed did a good job producing a vaccine in a short period. I am not seeing the reason for this witch hunt because he liked the limelight? He has patents? Hell, everyone in science and tech has patents. So, once again what did he do that you can quantify not just deleriously shout he harmed millions. That is not proof of anything.

By the way, Trump was convicted. HE is a convicted sexual predator. He is also President and is held to a different standard.

You keep saying 'scientific studies', as if a crooked scientist can only be accused by his friends.

Read through this thread, we have already mentioned people who lost their jobs because of the mandates Fauci demanded. Others have referenced the higher risks and harms from the experimental vaccines people were forced to take. We have noted the blatant hypocrisy of Fauci, from attending parties while saying regular people cannot do so, to not wearing a mask in public while demanding it of others, to his private notes about the lab origin and the possible risks of the vaccine, both of which he publicly denied.

Now you have ignored those and want to pretend they were never brought up. That only proves your dishonesty. and your intellectual cowardice in refusing to address them.

Every post you make on Fauci makes you less and less credible, and less and less honorable. If you will not admit the man is a criminal, you ought to at least stop posting. Your hole is only getting deeper.

"By the way, Trump was convicted. HE is a convicted sexual predator"

Nope, you are lying yet again.

Trump lost a civil lawsuit, not a criminal trial. And won a suit when someone on your moral plane false called him a rapist, something specifically denied by court documents.

Trump is a boor.

Fauci is a malicious tyrant.

You are a proven liar.

That is what we know from the thread so far.

FLBear5630 said:

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Ran from them?

There is nothing but circumstantial stances taken in snippets of texts. You are looking a foot deep into a mile crevice (analogy, letting DJ and HB know it is not literal, i know you get it/ ) Look into the details, the guy had legitimate discussions on suspected and theoretical issues. But we were not in normal testing dur to the Pandemic. I get the Pandemic pardon and the liability exemption on shots. Emergency situations. No issues.

Xou say millions died because of Fauci, but the facts don't bear that out. Lots of RFK level rhetoric, very short on facts. The science does not back it. Like MRNA rewriting your DNA. RNA cannot rewrite DNA. Yet, there will be those on here saying ot does, watched too many XFiles.

(We probably couldn't test now, Trump DOGE'ed them, like our USFA inspectors as E Coli and worse are getting through more often.)

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Dude - you run from every specific. We joke that TDSers cannot answer specifics and then you come in and say "hold my beer."

FLBear5630 said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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Again, it's clear that you cannot abide anyone holding Fauci accountable.

To the point that you completely lose perspective or any sympathy for the millions he harmed.

Interesting, given your other posts, that where Fauci is concerned it's completely fine as long as no charges are brought.

Your hypocrisy here is massive.

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What millions? Please, seriously one scientific paper that shows that the COVID vaccine was the cause of millions of people harmed. Please. Real science, not some pseudo-Bannon speculation because you knew 3 people... Real science. Oh I forgot, they are all in it together to fudge the numbers. It is fake news... Got it.

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Who's surprised?

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Journal Retracts Paper Linking COVID-19 Vaccines to Deaths
August 15, 2026

BMJ Public Health has retracted a paper some - including a witness at a recent U.S. Senate subcommittee hearing - have used to link COVID-19 vaccines to deaths. The action comes more than two years after a researcher cited in the work flagged issues with the study.

The retraction is hardly the first of a paper linking COVID-19 vaccines to excess deaths. For example, earlier this year, a lawsuit failed to block the retraction of a paper linking heart-related deaths to the COVID-19 vaccine. In 2024, Cureus retracted a paper on the "extensive harms" of the vaccine.

https://www.the-scientist.com/journal-retracts-paper-linking-covid-19-vaccines-to-deaths-74883

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Sam Lowry said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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Again, it's clear that you cannot abide anyone holding Fauci accountable.

To the point that you completely lose perspective or any sympathy for the millions he harmed.

Interesting, given your other posts, that where Fauci is concerned it's completely fine as long as no charges are brought.

Your hypocrisy here is massive.

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What millions? Please, seriously one scientific paper that shows that the COVID vaccine was the cause of millions of people harmed. Please. Real science, not some pseudo-Bannon speculation because you knew 3 people... Real science. Oh I forgot, they are all in it together to fudge the numbers. It is fake news... Got it.

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Who's surprised?

Quote:

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Journal Retracts Paper Linking COVID-19 Vaccines to Deaths
August 15, 2026

BMJ Public Health has retracted a paper some - including a witness at a recent U.S. Senate subcommittee hearing - have used to link COVID-19 vaccines to deaths. The action comes more than two years after a researcher cited in the work flagged issues with the study.

The retraction is hardly the first of a paper linking COVID-19 vaccines to excess deaths. For example, earlier this year, a lawsuit failed to block the retraction of a paper linking heart-related deaths to the COVID-19 vaccine. In 2024, Cureus retracted a paper on the "extensive harms" of the vaccine.

https://www.the-scientist.com/journal-retracts-paper-linking-covid-19-vaccines-to-deaths-74883

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Hamas Harry - are you still pretending there is a genocide even when the population increases?

Oldbear83 said:

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"By the way, Trump was convicted. HE is a convicted sexual predator"

Nope, you are lying yet again.

Trump lost a civil lawsuit, not a criminal trial. And won a suit when someone on your moral plane false called him a rapist, something specifically denied by court documents.

Trump is a boor.

Fauci is a malicious tyrant.

You are a proven liar.

That is what we know from the thread so far.

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That is your line of honor? It was a civil case... Really? That is your standard?


I will reframe, "He lost in court of sexually abusing a lady." Better. I love it, "It was a civil case..." That is like the punch line of a joke.

Trump is a boor.

Fauci? Question, how can one be a tyrant with no authority to enact an law, policy or order? He was the mouthpiece for the Administrations. Therefore, the tyrants were Trump and Biden, not the medical advisor they rolled out there. I know that is more than you can grasp. But, try. It is an important concept. The advisor has no power, only able to give advise on the subject of expertise.

Liar? You are getting worse and worse, a shill of the reasonable person of 2 years ago. Look at what this guy is doing to the Nation. The economy is a mess. We are at war with Iran. We just scolded S Korea because we have a good relationship with North Korea??? ICE is running around like stormtroopers, imitating Nazi poses. Our Allies no longer trust us. We are giving testosterone to soldiers and blowing up speed boats in the Caribbean. Tyrant?? Who is the tyrant?

You are a proven liar, FLBear. That you make no attempt to address that problem, preferring instead to just continue your drone of spite, does not speak well for you.

A habitual liar for sure.