jason_cook said:

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The Ratio Christi fall event was postponed by the student organization due to security costs, which per Baylor University policy are the responsibility of the hosting organization.

University policies for student-led events require submission of documentation well in advance to determine the support needed to ensure a safe, caring and educational environment for all students, faculty and staff. Ratio Christi did not submit this documentation as requested by University staff on several occasions. As a result, security costs associated with Waco Hall could not be determined until late in the planning process. Upon receipt of the full security estimate, the student organization decided to postpone, rather than work with campus leaders to identify a different and possibly less expensive location.

We understand this is a disappointing outcome for those who were scheduled to speak and attend, and campus leaders stand ready to support our Ratio Christi student leaders on another event in the future, provided appropriate info is shared in a timely manner.

As an academic institution, Baylor is committed to ensuring open dialogue and the robust exchange of ideas and perspectives. We hold this commitment along with an obligation to provide a safe and nurturing educational environment within a caring Christian community.

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Bestweekeverr said:

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Mr. Sippi said:

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jason_cook said:

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The Ratio Christi fall event was postponed by the student organization due to security costs, which per Baylor University policy are the responsibility of the hosting organization.

University policies for student-led events require submission of documentation well in advance to determine the support needed to ensure a safe, caring and educational environment for all students, faculty and staff. Ratio Christi did not submit this documentation as requested by University staff on several occasions. As a result, security costs associated with Waco Hall could not be determined until late in the planning process. Upon receipt of the full security estimate, the student organization decided to postpone, rather than work with campus leaders to identify a different and possibly less expensive location.

We understand this is a disappointing outcome for those who were scheduled to speak and attend, and campus leaders stand ready to support our Ratio Christi student leaders on another event in the future, provided appropriate info is shared in a timely manner.

As an academic institution, Baylor is committed to ensuring open dialogue and the robust exchange of ideas and perspectives. We hold this commitment along with an obligation to provide a safe and nurturing educational environment within a caring Christian community.

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Thanks, Jason. I'm disappointed that the event was not able to be held as scheduled and maybe it will be at another time. I'm also disappointed that the blame is being assigned to a student organization whose purpose is to promote why we as Christians believe what we believe - which is exactly what I would think Baylor would want to promote. It's unfortunate that Baylor could not offer support to this group and help pull off the event.

I understand the need to appear being fair to all groups, but when Baylor University cannot find a way to share the gospel with those that need to hear it makes me sad.

I know that the world has changed a lot since I graduated from Baylor 40 years ago - it's a shame that Baylor has felt the need to change along with it.

I look forward to hearing Frank's side of the story on Friday.

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Why is it Baylor's fault that the student org messed up and didn't submit the required documentation on time?

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EatMoreSalmon said:

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Bestweekeverr said:

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Mr. Sippi said:

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jason_cook said:

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The Ratio Christi fall event was postponed by the student organization due to security costs, which per Baylor University policy are the responsibility of the hosting organization.

University policies for student-led events require submission of documentation well in advance to determine the support needed to ensure a safe, caring and educational environment for all students, faculty and staff. Ratio Christi did not submit this documentation as requested by University staff on several occasions. As a result, security costs associated with Waco Hall could not be determined until late in the planning process. Upon receipt of the full security estimate, the student organization decided to postpone, rather than work with campus leaders to identify a different and possibly less expensive location.

We understand this is a disappointing outcome for those who were scheduled to speak and attend, and campus leaders stand ready to support our Ratio Christi student leaders on another event in the future, provided appropriate info is shared in a timely manner.

As an academic institution, Baylor is committed to ensuring open dialogue and the robust exchange of ideas and perspectives. We hold this commitment along with an obligation to provide a safe and nurturing educational environment within a caring Christian community.

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Thanks, Jason. I'm disappointed that the event was not able to be held as scheduled and maybe it will be at another time. I'm also disappointed that the blame is being assigned to a student organization whose purpose is to promote why we as Christians believe what we believe - which is exactly what I would think Baylor would want to promote. It's unfortunate that Baylor could not offer support to this group and help pull off the event.

I understand the need to appear being fair to all groups, but when Baylor University cannot find a way to share the gospel with those that need to hear it makes me sad.

I know that the world has changed a lot since I graduated from Baylor 40 years ago - it's a shame that Baylor has felt the need to change along with it.

I look forward to hearing Frank's side of the story on Friday.

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Why is it Baylor's fault that the student org messed up and didn't submit the required documentation on time?

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Was the security estimate in line with other similar events? If so, then the student group is clearly at fault with their planning and execution. If the security estimate was higher than other similar events in the same facility, then there could be a problem with assessing security for different groups.

Maybe there was a grade penalty for late submission!

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Redbrickbear said:

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Seems like Left wing terrorism drives up the cost of having conservative style speakers on college campuses

It's silencing of free speech by driving up the cost of allowing it in public

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Bestweekeverr said:

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Mr. Sippi said:

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jason_cook said:

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The Ratio Christi fall event was postponed by the student organization due to security costs, which per Baylor University policy are the responsibility of the hosting organization.

University policies for student-led events require submission of documentation well in advance to determine the support needed to ensure a safe, caring and educational environment for all students, faculty and staff. Ratio Christi did not submit this documentation as requested by University staff on several occasions. As a result, security costs associated with Waco Hall could not be determined until late in the planning process. Upon receipt of the full security estimate, the student organization decided to postpone, rather than work with campus leaders to identify a different and possibly less expensive location.

We understand this is a disappointing outcome for those who were scheduled to speak and attend, and campus leaders stand ready to support our Ratio Christi student leaders on another event in the future, provided appropriate info is shared in a timely manner.

As an academic institution, Baylor is committed to ensuring open dialogue and the robust exchange of ideas and perspectives. We hold this commitment along with an obligation to provide a safe and nurturing educational environment within a caring Christian community.

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Thanks, Jason. I'm disappointed that the event was not able to be held as scheduled and maybe it will be at another time. I'm also disappointed that the blame is being assigned to a student organization whose purpose is to promote why we as Christians believe what we believe - which is exactly what I would think Baylor would want to promote. It's unfortunate that Baylor could not offer support to this group and help pull off the event.

I understand the need to appear being fair to all groups, but when Baylor University cannot find a way to share the gospel with those that need to hear it makes me sad.

I know that the world has changed a lot since I graduated from Baylor 40 years ago - it's a shame that Baylor has felt the need to change along with it.

I look forward to hearing Frank's side of the story on Friday.

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Why is it Baylor's fault that the student org messed up and didn't submit the required documentation on time?

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Redbrickbear said:

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Bestweekeverr said:

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Mr. Sippi said:

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jason_cook said:

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The Ratio Christi fall event was postponed by the student organization due to security costs, which per Baylor University policy are the responsibility of the hosting organization.

University policies for student-led events require submission of documentation well in advance to determine the support needed to ensure a safe, caring and educational environment for all students, faculty and staff. Ratio Christi did not submit this documentation as requested by University staff on several occasions. As a result, security costs associated with Waco Hall could not be determined until late in the planning process. Upon receipt of the full security estimate, the student organization decided to postpone, rather than work with campus leaders to identify a different and possibly less expensive location.

We understand this is a disappointing outcome for those who were scheduled to speak and attend, and campus leaders stand ready to support our Ratio Christi student leaders on another event in the future, provided appropriate info is shared in a timely manner.

As an academic institution, Baylor is committed to ensuring open dialogue and the robust exchange of ideas and perspectives. We hold this commitment along with an obligation to provide a safe and nurturing educational environment within a caring Christian community.

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Thanks, Jason. I'm disappointed that the event was not able to be held as scheduled and maybe it will be at another time. I'm also disappointed that the blame is being assigned to a student organization whose purpose is to promote why we as Christians believe what we believe - which is exactly what I would think Baylor would want to promote. It's unfortunate that Baylor could not offer support to this group and help pull off the event.

I understand the need to appear being fair to all groups, but when Baylor University cannot find a way to share the gospel with those that need to hear it makes me sad.

I know that the world has changed a lot since I graduated from Baylor 40 years ago - it's a shame that Baylor has felt the need to change along with it.

I look forward to hearing Frank's side of the story on Friday.

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Why is it Baylor's fault that the student org messed up and didn't submit the required documentation on time?

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Sounds like he has more issues with the administration than just a misunderstanding about a time request on documents…

"There's too much information to share in this email or in a social media post, so I'll be revealing the full story, as well as exposing other corruption happening right now at Baylor, on Friday's podcast. So stay tuned

In the meantime, please note that this event has been postponed until further notice.

Blessings,

Dr. Frank Turek"

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Bestweekeverr said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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Bestweekeverr said:

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Mr. Sippi said:

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jason_cook said:

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The Ratio Christi fall event was postponed by the student organization due to security costs, which per Baylor University policy are the responsibility of the hosting organization.

University policies for student-led events require submission of documentation well in advance to determine the support needed to ensure a safe, caring and educational environment for all students, faculty and staff. Ratio Christi did not submit this documentation as requested by University staff on several occasions. As a result, security costs associated with Waco Hall could not be determined until late in the planning process. Upon receipt of the full security estimate, the student organization decided to postpone, rather than work with campus leaders to identify a different and possibly less expensive location.

We understand this is a disappointing outcome for those who were scheduled to speak and attend, and campus leaders stand ready to support our Ratio Christi student leaders on another event in the future, provided appropriate info is shared in a timely manner.

As an academic institution, Baylor is committed to ensuring open dialogue and the robust exchange of ideas and perspectives. We hold this commitment along with an obligation to provide a safe and nurturing educational environment within a caring Christian community.

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Thanks, Jason. I'm disappointed that the event was not able to be held as scheduled and maybe it will be at another time. I'm also disappointed that the blame is being assigned to a student organization whose purpose is to promote why we as Christians believe what we believe - which is exactly what I would think Baylor would want to promote. It's unfortunate that Baylor could not offer support to this group and help pull off the event.

I understand the need to appear being fair to all groups, but when Baylor University cannot find a way to share the gospel with those that need to hear it makes me sad.

I know that the world has changed a lot since I graduated from Baylor 40 years ago - it's a shame that Baylor has felt the need to change along with it.

I look forward to hearing Frank's side of the story on Friday.

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Why is it Baylor's fault that the student org messed up and didn't submit the required documentation on time?

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Sounds like he has more issues with the administration than just a misunderstanding about a time request on documents…

"There's too much information to share in this email or in a social media post, so I'll be revealing the full story, as well as exposing other corruption happening right now at Baylor, on Friday's podcast. So stay tuned

In the meantime, please note that this event has been postponed until further notice.

Blessings,

Dr. Frank Turek"

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I'm sure he'll spin a tale about he's the victim in all this.

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Redbrickbear said:

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Bestweekeverr said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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Bestweekeverr said:

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Mr. Sippi said:

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jason_cook said:

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The Ratio Christi fall event was postponed by the student organization due to security costs, which per Baylor University policy are the responsibility of the hosting organization.

University policies for student-led events require submission of documentation well in advance to determine the support needed to ensure a safe, caring and educational environment for all students, faculty and staff. Ratio Christi did not submit this documentation as requested by University staff on several occasions. As a result, security costs associated with Waco Hall could not be determined until late in the planning process. Upon receipt of the full security estimate, the student organization decided to postpone, rather than work with campus leaders to identify a different and possibly less expensive location.

We understand this is a disappointing outcome for those who were scheduled to speak and attend, and campus leaders stand ready to support our Ratio Christi student leaders on another event in the future, provided appropriate info is shared in a timely manner.

As an academic institution, Baylor is committed to ensuring open dialogue and the robust exchange of ideas and perspectives. We hold this commitment along with an obligation to provide a safe and nurturing educational environment within a caring Christian community.

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Thanks, Jason. I'm disappointed that the event was not able to be held as scheduled and maybe it will be at another time. I'm also disappointed that the blame is being assigned to a student organization whose purpose is to promote why we as Christians believe what we believe - which is exactly what I would think Baylor would want to promote. It's unfortunate that Baylor could not offer support to this group and help pull off the event.

I understand the need to appear being fair to all groups, but when Baylor University cannot find a way to share the gospel with those that need to hear it makes me sad.

I know that the world has changed a lot since I graduated from Baylor 40 years ago - it's a shame that Baylor has felt the need to change along with it.

I look forward to hearing Frank's side of the story on Friday.

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Why is it Baylor's fault that the student org messed up and didn't submit the required documentation on time?

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Sounds like he has more issues with the administration than just a misunderstanding about a time request on documents…

"There's too much information to share in this email or in a social media post, so I'll be revealing the full story, as well as exposing other corruption happening right now at Baylor, on Friday's podcast. So stay tuned

In the meantime, please note that this event has been postponed until further notice.

Blessings,

Dr. Frank Turek"

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I'm sure he'll spin a tale about he's the victim in all this.

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Seems harsh. Do you know him to be a dishonest person?

Or you just ready to discount anything he says before listening to it on Friday?

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Bestweekeverr said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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Bestweekeverr said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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Bestweekeverr said:

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Mr. Sippi said:

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jason_cook said:

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The Ratio Christi fall event was postponed by the student organization due to security costs, which per Baylor University policy are the responsibility of the hosting organization.

University policies for student-led events require submission of documentation well in advance to determine the support needed to ensure a safe, caring and educational environment for all students, faculty and staff. Ratio Christi did not submit this documentation as requested by University staff on several occasions. As a result, security costs associated with Waco Hall could not be determined until late in the planning process. Upon receipt of the full security estimate, the student organization decided to postpone, rather than work with campus leaders to identify a different and possibly less expensive location.

We understand this is a disappointing outcome for those who were scheduled to speak and attend, and campus leaders stand ready to support our Ratio Christi student leaders on another event in the future, provided appropriate info is shared in a timely manner.

As an academic institution, Baylor is committed to ensuring open dialogue and the robust exchange of ideas and perspectives. We hold this commitment along with an obligation to provide a safe and nurturing educational environment within a caring Christian community.

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Thanks, Jason. I'm disappointed that the event was not able to be held as scheduled and maybe it will be at another time. I'm also disappointed that the blame is being assigned to a student organization whose purpose is to promote why we as Christians believe what we believe - which is exactly what I would think Baylor would want to promote. It's unfortunate that Baylor could not offer support to this group and help pull off the event.

I understand the need to appear being fair to all groups, but when Baylor University cannot find a way to share the gospel with those that need to hear it makes me sad.

I know that the world has changed a lot since I graduated from Baylor 40 years ago - it's a shame that Baylor has felt the need to change along with it.

I look forward to hearing Frank's side of the story on Friday.

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Why is it Baylor's fault that the student org messed up and didn't submit the required documentation on time?

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Sounds like he has more issues with the administration than just a misunderstanding about a time request on documents…

"There's too much information to share in this email or in a social media post, so I'll be revealing the full story, as well as exposing other corruption happening right now at Baylor, on Friday's podcast. So stay tuned

In the meantime, please note that this event has been postponed until further notice.

Blessings,

Dr. Frank Turek"

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I'm sure he'll spin a tale about he's the victim in all this.

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Seems harsh. Do you know him to be a dishonest person?

Or you just ready to discount anything he says before listening to it on Friday?

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I'm biased towards the simplest explanation being the reality of the situation. His organization not sending in the required paperwork is much more believable to me than "Baylor corruption".

Both parties have a vested interest in painting a narrative that is more favorable to them. Jason has always been as honest as he can be about the behind-the-scenes of Baylor, and right now his explanation makes sense to me. I'll be interested in what this guy has to say Friday, and if he has convincing receipts then I'll hear him out. But him already coming out with "corruption" allegations is already a red flag to me.

Maybe he can back it up, but it sounds to me like he didn't know he'd have to pay the security costs and didn't want to so he never provided the documentation.

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Redbrickbear said:

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Bestweekeverr said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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Bestweekeverr said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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Bestweekeverr said:

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Mr. Sippi said:

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jason_cook said:

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The Ratio Christi fall event was postponed by the student organization due to security costs, which per Baylor University policy are the responsibility of the hosting organization.

University policies for student-led events require submission of documentation well in advance to determine the support needed to ensure a safe, caring and educational environment for all students, faculty and staff. Ratio Christi did not submit this documentation as requested by University staff on several occasions. As a result, security costs associated with Waco Hall could not be determined until late in the planning process. Upon receipt of the full security estimate, the student organization decided to postpone, rather than work with campus leaders to identify a different and possibly less expensive location.

We understand this is a disappointing outcome for those who were scheduled to speak and attend, and campus leaders stand ready to support our Ratio Christi student leaders on another event in the future, provided appropriate info is shared in a timely manner.

As an academic institution, Baylor is committed to ensuring open dialogue and the robust exchange of ideas and perspectives. We hold this commitment along with an obligation to provide a safe and nurturing educational environment within a caring Christian community.

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Thanks, Jason. I'm disappointed that the event was not able to be held as scheduled and maybe it will be at another time. I'm also disappointed that the blame is being assigned to a student organization whose purpose is to promote why we as Christians believe what we believe - which is exactly what I would think Baylor would want to promote. It's unfortunate that Baylor could not offer support to this group and help pull off the event.

I understand the need to appear being fair to all groups, but when Baylor University cannot find a way to share the gospel with those that need to hear it makes me sad.

I know that the world has changed a lot since I graduated from Baylor 40 years ago - it's a shame that Baylor has felt the need to change along with it.

I look forward to hearing Frank's side of the story on Friday.

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Why is it Baylor's fault that the student org messed up and didn't submit the required documentation on time?

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Sounds like he has more issues with the administration than just a misunderstanding about a time request on documents…

"There's too much information to share in this email or in a social media post, so I'll be revealing the full story, as well as exposing other corruption happening right now at Baylor, on Friday's podcast. So stay tuned

In the meantime, please note that this event has been postponed until further notice.

Blessings,

Dr. Frank Turek"

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I'm sure he'll spin a tale about he's the victim in all this.

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Seems harsh. Do you know him to be a dishonest person?

Or you just ready to discount anything he says before listening to it on Friday?

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I'm biased towards the simplest explanation being the reality of the situation. His organization not sending in the required paperwork is much more believable to me than "Baylor corruption".

Both parties have a vested interest in painting a narrative that is more favorable to them. Jason has always been as honest as he can be about the behind-the-scenes of Baylor, and right now his explanation makes sense to me. I'll be interested in what this guy has to say Friday, and if he has convincing receipts then I'll hear him out. But him already coming out with "corruption" allegations is already a red flag to me.

Maybe he can back it up, but it sounds to me like he didn't know he'd have to pay the security costs and didn't want to so he never provided the documentation.

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So it sounds like the best course of action is to hear him out and see what he has to say…and how that lines up with other peoples perspectives on the situation that occurred.

Not sure that "he'll spin a tale about he's the victim in all this" lines up with the new Baylor commitment to debate, dialogue, and respecting others.

[Baylor University is committed to ensuring open dialogue and the robust exchange of ideas and perspectives.

Students are encouraged to engage with diverse perspectives and backgrounds. Baylor fosters civil discourse and intercultural understanding, helping students navigate complex global conversations with empathy and respect.]

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Bestweekeverr said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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Bestweekeverr said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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Bestweekeverr said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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Bestweekeverr said:

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Mr. Sippi said:

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jason_cook said:

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The Ratio Christi fall event was postponed by the student organization due to security costs, which per Baylor University policy are the responsibility of the hosting organization.

University policies for student-led events require submission of documentation well in advance to determine the support needed to ensure a safe, caring and educational environment for all students, faculty and staff. Ratio Christi did not submit this documentation as requested by University staff on several occasions. As a result, security costs associated with Waco Hall could not be determined until late in the planning process. Upon receipt of the full security estimate, the student organization decided to postpone, rather than work with campus leaders to identify a different and possibly less expensive location.

We understand this is a disappointing outcome for those who were scheduled to speak and attend, and campus leaders stand ready to support our Ratio Christi student leaders on another event in the future, provided appropriate info is shared in a timely manner.

As an academic institution, Baylor is committed to ensuring open dialogue and the robust exchange of ideas and perspectives. We hold this commitment along with an obligation to provide a safe and nurturing educational environment within a caring Christian community.

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Thanks, Jason. I'm disappointed that the event was not able to be held as scheduled and maybe it will be at another time. I'm also disappointed that the blame is being assigned to a student organization whose purpose is to promote why we as Christians believe what we believe - which is exactly what I would think Baylor would want to promote. It's unfortunate that Baylor could not offer support to this group and help pull off the event.

I understand the need to appear being fair to all groups, but when Baylor University cannot find a way to share the gospel with those that need to hear it makes me sad.

I know that the world has changed a lot since I graduated from Baylor 40 years ago - it's a shame that Baylor has felt the need to change along with it.

I look forward to hearing Frank's side of the story on Friday.

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Why is it Baylor's fault that the student org messed up and didn't submit the required documentation on time?

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Sounds like he has more issues with the administration than just a misunderstanding about a time request on documents…

"There's too much information to share in this email or in a social media post, so I'll be revealing the full story, as well as exposing other corruption happening right now at Baylor, on Friday's podcast. So stay tuned

In the meantime, please note that this event has been postponed until further notice.

Blessings,

Dr. Frank Turek"

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I'm sure he'll spin a tale about he's the victim in all this.

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Seems harsh. Do you know him to be a dishonest person?

Or you just ready to discount anything he says before listening to it on Friday?

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I'm biased towards the simplest explanation being the reality of the situation. His organization not sending in the required paperwork is much more believable to me than "Baylor corruption".

Both parties have a vested interest in painting a narrative that is more favorable to them. Jason has always been as honest as he can be about the behind-the-scenes of Baylor, and right now his explanation makes sense to me. I'll be interested in what this guy has to say Friday, and if he has convincing receipts then I'll hear him out. But him already coming out with "corruption" allegations is already a red flag to me.

Maybe he can back it up, but it sounds to me like he didn't know he'd have to pay the security costs and didn't want to so he never provided the documentation.

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So it sounds like the best course of action is to hear him out and see what he has to say…and how that lines up with other peoples perspectives on the situation that occurred.

Not sure that "he'll spin a tale about he's the victim in all this" lines up with the new Baylor commitment to debate, dialogue, and respecting others.

[Baylor University is committed to ensuring open dialogue and the robust exchange of ideas and perspectives.

Students are encouraged to engage with diverse perspectives and backgrounds. Baylor fosters civil discourse and intercultural understanding, helping students navigate complex global conversations with empathy and respect.]

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I have given this guy more grace than other posters have given to Baylor in this situation and you have said nothing to them. But by all means, pretend like you haven't made up your mind on who you think is in the wrong here.

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