Vivek Ramaswamy talk

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muddybrazos
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Ohio is cooked. Either a crazy lib lady or an Indian scammer anchor baby that wants to bring in 4million h1bs to Ohio. The dem may actually be the lesser of the two evils. Vivek needs to be destroyed and deported for securities fraud pump and dump.
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Mothra said:

Frank Galvin said:

Mothra said:

Frank Galvin said:

Mothra said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

Mothra said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

So it is an outrage to use a candidate's family in an ad?

That Acton chick is a certified fabulist loon - totally incompetent nut job. Proves women cannot handle pressure - she'll pull a Lindsey Clancy on Ohio.

Indeed, she is a leftist nut, but it's all about the feelings for voters nowdays.

That said, it was a poor political calculation by V.


The problem isn't her mom in the ad. It's THIS mom in an ad. She hasn't seen this woman (allegedly) since 1978. If it's my mom? I'm a dirty scoundrel. This woman? Yuk!

This is one of those "differences" none of us can relate to. Raped by our stepdad and mom standing by him.

I don't disagree that the ad was a mistake. My comment was directed generally toward those that put feelings over policy.

My "feeling" is that there is a baseline of human decency and integrity we should expect of elected officials. Both parties often fail that test, but it seems like the GOP has stopped caring about it. After decades as casting itself as the values party. to boot.

Let's not pretend the Democrats haven't cared about that for decades. And the problem is your party no longer has any sense of normal. It's expelled the normies in favor of radical leftists and socialists. That's the direction it's headed.

And that crowd has always been about tyranny and vilification. So it's a bit rich to complain of human decency.


And if you want to talk about policy, here is why I voted mostly for Democrats. I want a Congress that will act like the equal branch of government the Constitution calls for. The war in Iran is stupid and harmful, the failure to support Ukraine is stupid and harmful, Trump's tariffs are stupid and harmful, Trump's refusal to even consider the harm that AI, unregulated crypto, and climate change can do is stupid and harmful, the combination of tax cuts and drunken sailor spending is stupid and harmful, and Trump's lawfare is stupid and harmful. I could go on, but that is enough.


Fine, Frank. And I voted Republican because I opposed open-border policies, millions of illegal crossings, the Afghanistan debacle, COVID business shutdowns and vaccine mandates, biological males competing in girls' sports, promoting kids gender preferences over their parents wishes, massive spending, crushing inflation, identity politics, and the increasing influence of socialists in the Democratic Party.

See how this works? You have a list. I have a list.

irrespective of anything else, the majority of Covid shutdowns and vaccine mandates happened when Trump was President and the GOP had control of the Senate
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muddybrazos
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cms186 said:

Mothra said:

Frank Galvin said:

Mothra said:

Frank Galvin said:

Mothra said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

Mothra said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

So it is an outrage to use a candidate's family in an ad?

That Acton chick is a certified fabulist loon - totally incompetent nut job. Proves women cannot handle pressure - she'll pull a Lindsey Clancy on Ohio.

Indeed, she is a leftist nut, but it's all about the feelings for voters nowdays.

That said, it was a poor political calculation by V.


The problem isn't her mom in the ad. It's THIS mom in an ad. She hasn't seen this woman (allegedly) since 1978. If it's my mom? I'm a dirty scoundrel. This woman? Yuk!

This is one of those "differences" none of us can relate to. Raped by our stepdad and mom standing by him.

I don't disagree that the ad was a mistake. My comment was directed generally toward those that put feelings over policy.

My "feeling" is that there is a baseline of human decency and integrity we should expect of elected officials. Both parties often fail that test, but it seems like the GOP has stopped caring about it. After decades as casting itself as the values party. to boot.

Let's not pretend the Democrats haven't cared about that for decades. And the problem is your party no longer has any sense of normal. It's expelled the normies in favor of radical leftists and socialists. That's the direction it's headed.

And that crowd has always been about tyranny and vilification. So it's a bit rich to complain of human decency.


And if you want to talk about policy, here is why I voted mostly for Democrats. I want a Congress that will act like the equal branch of government the Constitution calls for. The war in Iran is stupid and harmful, the failure to support Ukraine is stupid and harmful, Trump's tariffs are stupid and harmful, Trump's refusal to even consider the harm that AI, unregulated crypto, and climate change can do is stupid and harmful, the combination of tax cuts and drunken sailor spending is stupid and harmful, and Trump's lawfare is stupid and harmful. I could go on, but that is enough.


Fine, Frank. And I voted Republican because I opposed open-border policies, millions of illegal crossings, the Afghanistan debacle, COVID business shutdowns and vaccine mandates, biological males competing in girls' sports, promoting kids gender preferences over their parents wishes, massive spending, crushing inflation, identity politics, and the increasing influence of socialists in the Democratic Party.

See how this works? You have a list. I have a list.

irrespective of anything else, the majority of Covid shutdowns and vaccine mandates happened when Trump was President and the GOP had control of the Senate

We are aware and those of us that pay attention already realize this whole thing is just 2 wings on the same bird.
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Most of the advice was being taken from Fauxi whom eventually confessed he lied about alot
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Vivek is directionally correct but tone deaf and kind of an a hole (not atypical for someone who is as smart as he is).

His biggest mistakes have been too bluntly pointing out that some white folks are dumber and lazier than some legal immigrants.

But the idea that you're going to get better governance out of former state health director Amy Acton is nuts.
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Danielsjackson114 said:

Most of the advice was being taken from Fauxi whom eventually confessed he lied about alot

do you have a link to that?
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Mothra
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cms186 said:

Mothra said:

Frank Galvin said:

Mothra said:

Frank Galvin said:

Mothra said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

Mothra said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

So it is an outrage to use a candidate's family in an ad?

That Acton chick is a certified fabulist loon - totally incompetent nut job. Proves women cannot handle pressure - she'll pull a Lindsey Clancy on Ohio.

Indeed, she is a leftist nut, but it's all about the feelings for voters nowdays.

That said, it was a poor political calculation by V.


The problem isn't her mom in the ad. It's THIS mom in an ad. She hasn't seen this woman (allegedly) since 1978. If it's my mom? I'm a dirty scoundrel. This woman? Yuk!

This is one of those "differences" none of us can relate to. Raped by our stepdad and mom standing by him.

I don't disagree that the ad was a mistake. My comment was directed generally toward those that put feelings over policy.

My "feeling" is that there is a baseline of human decency and integrity we should expect of elected officials. Both parties often fail that test, but it seems like the GOP has stopped caring about it. After decades as casting itself as the values party. to boot.

Let's not pretend the Democrats haven't cared about that for decades. And the problem is your party no longer has any sense of normal. It's expelled the normies in favor of radical leftists and socialists. That's the direction it's headed.

And that crowd has always been about tyranny and vilification. So it's a bit rich to complain of human decency.


And if you want to talk about policy, here is why I voted mostly for Democrats. I want a Congress that will act like the equal branch of government the Constitution calls for. The war in Iran is stupid and harmful, the failure to support Ukraine is stupid and harmful, Trump's tariffs are stupid and harmful, Trump's refusal to even consider the harm that AI, unregulated crypto, and climate change can do is stupid and harmful, the combination of tax cuts and drunken sailor spending is stupid and harmful, and Trump's lawfare is stupid and harmful. I could go on, but that is enough.


Fine, Frank. And I voted Republican because I opposed open-border policies, millions of illegal crossings, the Afghanistan debacle, COVID business shutdowns and vaccine mandates, biological males competing in girls' sports, promoting kids gender preferences over their parents wishes, massive spending, crushing inflation, identity politics, and the increasing influence of socialists in the Democratic Party.

See how this works? You have a list. I have a list.

irrespective of anything else, the majority of Covid shutdowns and vaccine mandates happened when Trump was President and the GOP had control of the Senate

This is simply not an accurate statement. The Trump admin did not issue ANY mandates. President Biden announced federal COVID-19 vaccine requirements in September 2021 for federal employees, federal contractors, healthcare workers in CMS-funded facilities, and large employers. The mandate on large employers, which attempted to use OSHA, were struck down as unconstitutional.

The business shut downs were performed by state governors. But nice try.
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https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/trump-white-house-made-deliberate-efforts-undermine-covid-response-report-n1286211

Actually he did everything he could to not give into the BS that Fauxi was spewing
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https://www.nytimes.com/2025/04/18/science/trump-covid-website-lab-leak.html

He was also the first to call out Fauxi's BS meat market covid origin

He was right about alot of things
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Frank Galvin said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

Mothra said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

So it is an outrage to use a candidate's family in an ad?

That Acton chick is a certified fabulist loon - totally incompetent nut job. Proves women cannot handle pressure - she'll pull a Lindsey Clancy on Ohio.

Indeed, she is a leftist nut, but it's all about the feelings for voters nowdays.

That said, it was a poor political calculation by V.

I still am trying to clarify - is it a "sin" to have family members speak out against a candidate? Is that forboden?

Not forbidden. In this case, it is stupid. Hitching yourself to a woman who chose an abuser over her children? Good call, there Vivek.


Like mocking the assassination if Charlie Kirk? Does that seem decent and integrous?

Like getting gay hookers to claim they had sex with Lindsay Graham? Does that seem decent and integrous?
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https://virginia.gop/virginia-democrat-staffers-activists-disgustingly-celebrate-murder-of-charlie-kirk/

Alot of decency there, Franky
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https://virginia.gop/virginia-democrat-staffers-activists-disgustingly-celebrate-murder-of-charlie-kirk/
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Frank Galvin said:

Mothra said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

Mothra said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

So it is an outrage to use a candidate's family in an ad?

That Acton chick is a certified fabulist loon - totally incompetent nut job. Proves women cannot handle pressure - she'll pull a Lindsey Clancy on Ohio.

Indeed, she is a leftist nut, but it's all about the feelings for voters nowdays.

That said, it was a poor political calculation by V.


The problem isn't her mom in the ad. It's THIS mom in an ad. She hasn't seen this woman (allegedly) since 1978. If it's my mom? I'm a dirty scoundrel. This woman? Yuk!

This is one of those "differences" none of us can relate to. Raped by our stepdad and mom standing by him.

I don't disagree that the ad was a mistake. My comment was directed generally toward those that put feelings over policy.

My "feeling" is that there is a baseline of human decency and integrity we should expect of elected officials. Both parties often fail that test, but it seems like the GOP has stopped caring about it. After decades as casting itself as the values party. to boot.

https://virginia.gop/virginia-democrat-staffers-activists-disgustingly-celebrate-murder-of-charlie-kirk/
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Frank Galvin said:

Mothra said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

Mothra said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

So it is an outrage to use a candidate's family in an ad?

That Acton chick is a certified fabulist loon - totally incompetent nut job. Proves women cannot handle pressure - she'll pull a Lindsey Clancy on Ohio.

Indeed, she is a leftist nut, but it's all about the feelings for voters nowdays.

That said, it was a poor political calculation by V.


The problem isn't her mom in the ad. It's THIS mom in an ad. She hasn't seen this woman (allegedly) since 1978. If it's my mom? I'm a dirty scoundrel. This woman? Yuk!

This is one of those "differences" none of us can relate to. Raped by our stepdad and mom standing by him.

I don't disagree that the ad was a mistake. My comment was directed generally toward those that put feelings over policy.

My "feeling" is that there is a baseline of human decency and integrity we should expect of elected officials. Both parties often fail that test, but it seems like the GOP has stopped caring about it. After decades as casting itself as the values party. to boot.

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Harrison Bergeron said:


I still am trying to clarify - is it a "sin" to have family members speak out against a candidate? Is that forboden?


"For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul?"

Mark 8:36

I'd probably just stop at this point.
Danielsjackson114
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I don't remember Franky being concerned about the dem politicians mocking the Charlie Kirk murder

Seems like selective rage
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Realitybites said:

Harrison Bergeron said:


I still am trying to clarify - is it a "sin" to have family members speak out against a candidate? Is that forboden?


"For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul?"

Mark 8:36

I'd probably just stop at this point.


You actually thought I was being literal?

Jesus also condemned hypocrites - so every person faux outraged by this ad. It's nothing but cosplaying.
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My favorite comment I've read on this whole shameful event: Vivek will go down in history as the first candidate to deliver an "October Surprise" ... on himself.
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boognish_bear said:



Here is a good rule of thumb: When you find yourself in a hole, put the shovel down.
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Mothra said:

Realitybites said:

I volunteered for Trump 2016. I voted for the man 6 times (three primaries, three general elections). He has turned into an existential threat to the nation with this unnecessary war on Iran. I can't emphasize how critical it is to install a congressional majority in November that will remove him from office before he can make this bad situation he has created worse. Unfortunately, purging him and Susie Wiles are the only solutions here. Neither will listen to reason.

Can you expand on the existential threat Trump supposedly poses because of Iran?

This is not a full-scale war. At this point, we're talking about occasional targeted strikes, not an invasion. Do you believe he is about to commit American troops to a major ground war? If so, on what evidence?

I am no fan of this conflict, and I think Trump's performance over the last couple of years has been fairly poor, with the tariffs being among his biggest blunders. But I think you may be acting a bit like a drama queen here. Calling Trump an "existential threat" to the nation over a limited military action seems wildly disproportionate to the facts presently available.

I suspect this is really all about Israel for you.


I fully support reciprocal tarriffs.

Funny how you were the first one to bring up Israel... you are Israel First and we are driving you guys out.
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Mitch Blood Green said:

Mothra said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

Mothra said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

So it is an outrage to use a candidate's family in an ad?

That Acton chick is a certified fabulist loon - totally incompetent nut job. Proves women cannot handle pressure - she'll pull a Lindsey Clancy on Ohio.

Indeed, she is a leftist nut, but it's all about the feelings for voters nowdays.

That said, it was a poor political calculation by V.


The problem isn't her mom in the ad. It's THIS mom in an ad. She hasn't seen this woman (allegedly) since 1978. If it's my mom? I'm a dirty scoundrel. This woman? Yuk!

This is one of those "differences" none of us can relate to. Raped by our stepdad and mom standing by him.

I don't disagree that the ad was a mistake. My comment was directed generally toward those that put feelings over policy.


Not in Ohio so I can't tell you what Vivek's policies are. Looking at his history, not sure I see a code he goes by.


The only code I see is he's an India First nationalist and confirms the stereotype about them all being scammers.
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Harrison Bergeron said:

Mothra said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

So it is an outrage to use a candidate's family in an ad?

That Acton chick is a certified fabulist loon - totally incompetent nut job. Proves women cannot handle pressure - she'll pull a Lindsey Clancy on Ohio.

Indeed, she is a leftist nut, but it's all about the feelings for voters nowdays.

That said, it was a poor political calculation by V.

I still am trying to clarify - is it a "sin" to have family members speak out against a candidate? Is that forboden?


No but attacking people's families to hurt the person you are running against is a major turn-off for most normal people.
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Frank Galvin said:

Mothra said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

Mothra said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

So it is an outrage to use a candidate's family in an ad?

That Acton chick is a certified fabulist loon - totally incompetent nut job. Proves women cannot handle pressure - she'll pull a Lindsey Clancy on Ohio.

Indeed, she is a leftist nut, but it's all about the feelings for voters nowdays.

That said, it was a poor political calculation by V.


The problem isn't her mom in the ad. It's THIS mom in an ad. She hasn't seen this woman (allegedly) since 1978. If it's my mom? I'm a dirty scoundrel. This woman? Yuk!

This is one of those "differences" none of us can relate to. Raped by our stepdad and mom standing by him.

I don't disagree that the ad was a mistake. My comment was directed generally toward those that put feelings over policy.

My "feeling" is that there is a baseline of human decency and integrity we should expect of elected officials. Both parties often fail that test, but it seems like the GOP has stopped caring about it. After decades as casting itself as the values party. to boot.


I think its only fair to target family members when they have chosen to enter the political arena themselves i.e. are already involved in politics or have repeated made political statements attacking you.
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cms186 said:

Danielsjackson114 said:

Most of the advice was being taken from Fauxi whom eventually confessed he lied about alot

do you have a link to that?

No
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boognish_bear said:




Our 280 pound motor oiled dipped clown is now officially sundowning two weeks from the election. My only hope is that the 2-3 reasonable republicans, Desantis/rubio/thune will intervene, but it's little more than hope.
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TenBears said:

boognish_bear said:




Our 280 pound motor oiled dipped clown is now officially sundowning two weeks from the election. My only hope is that the 2-3 reasonable republicans, Desantis/rubio/thune will intervene, but it's little more than hope.


They ran the reasonable Republicans out of congress - see Massie, MTG.
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The_barBEARian said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

Mothra said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

So it is an outrage to use a candidate's family in an ad?

That Acton chick is a certified fabulist loon - totally incompetent nut job. Proves women cannot handle pressure - she'll pull a Lindsey Clancy on Ohio.

Indeed, she is a leftist nut, but it's all about the feelings for voters nowdays.

That said, it was a poor political calculation by V.

I still am trying to clarify - is it a "sin" to have family members speak out against a candidate? Is that forboden?


No but attacking people's families to hurt the person you are running against is a major turn-off for most normal people.

So I am genuinely curious. Do you actually believe a family was attacked. I can never understand if the LWNJs are actually morons or just dedicated to weird Talking Points.

So, I'll ask again: is it wrong to cut an ad with a member of a candidate's family criticizing the candidate?

(we know you cannot answer because LWNJs never can answer specifics, but I like to ask just to demonstrate that again)
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TenBears said:

boognish_bear said:




Our 280 pound motor oiled dipped clown is now officially sundowning two weeks from the election. My only hope is that the 2-3 reasonable republicans, Desantis/rubio/thune will intervene, but it's little more than hope.

I genuinely cannot tell if you TDS LWNJs are functionally rhegarded or just so committed to Talking Points.

You are the poster child for the "Americans are Actually Stupid" thread.
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Harrison Bergeron said:

The_barBEARian said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

Mothra said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

So it is an outrage to use a candidate's family in an ad?

That Acton chick is a certified fabulist loon - totally incompetent nut job. Proves women cannot handle pressure - she'll pull a Lindsey Clancy on Ohio.

Indeed, she is a leftist nut, but it's all about the feelings for voters nowdays.

That said, it was a poor political calculation by V.

I still am trying to clarify - is it a "sin" to have family members speak out against a candidate? Is that forboden?


No but attacking people's families to hurt the person you are running against is a major turn-off for most normal people.

So I am genuinely curious. Do you actually believe a family was attacked. I can never understand if the LWNJs are actually morons or just dedicated to weird Talking Points.

So, I'll ask again: is it wrong to cut an ad with a member of a candidate's family criticizing the candidate?

(we know you cannot answer because LWNJs never can answer specifics, but I like to ask just to demonstrate that again)


First time I've been called a LWNJ on this board before LMAO!

The ad sucks brother. Dont die on this hill.
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hope this little dude disappears after this cycle


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The_barBEARian said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

The_barBEARian said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

Mothra said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

So it is an outrage to use a candidate's family in an ad?

That Acton chick is a certified fabulist loon - totally incompetent nut job. Proves women cannot handle pressure - she'll pull a Lindsey Clancy on Ohio.

Indeed, she is a leftist nut, but it's all about the feelings for voters nowdays.

That said, it was a poor political calculation by V.

I still am trying to clarify - is it a "sin" to have family members speak out against a candidate? Is that forboden?


No but attacking people's families to hurt the person you are running against is a major turn-off for most normal people.

So I am genuinely curious. Do you actually believe a family was attacked. I can never understand if the LWNJs are actually morons or just dedicated to weird Talking Points.

So, I'll ask again: is it wrong to cut an ad with a member of a candidate's family criticizing the candidate?

(we know you cannot answer because LWNJs never can answer specifics, but I like to ask just to demonstrate that again)


First time I've been called a LWNJ on this board before LMAO!

The ad sucks brother. Dont die on this hill.


So, I'll ask again: is it wrong to cut an ad with a member of a candidate's family criticizing the candidate?
The_barBEARian
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Harrison Bergeron said:

The_barBEARian said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

The_barBEARian said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

Mothra said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

So it is an outrage to use a candidate's family in an ad?

That Acton chick is a certified fabulist loon - totally incompetent nut job. Proves women cannot handle pressure - she'll pull a Lindsey Clancy on Ohio.

Indeed, she is a leftist nut, but it's all about the feelings for voters nowdays.

That said, it was a poor political calculation by V.

I still am trying to clarify - is it a "sin" to have family members speak out against a candidate? Is that forboden?


No but attacking people's families to hurt the person you are running against is a major turn-off for most normal people.

So I am genuinely curious. Do you actually believe a family was attacked. I can never understand if the LWNJs are actually morons or just dedicated to weird Talking Points.

So, I'll ask again: is it wrong to cut an ad with a member of a candidate's family criticizing the candidate?

(we know you cannot answer because LWNJs never can answer specifics, but I like to ask just to demonstrate that again)


First time I've been called a LWNJ on this board before LMAO!

The ad sucks brother. Dont die on this hill.


So, I'll ask again: is it wrong to cut an ad with a member of a candidate's family criticizing the candidate?


I already answered you in the post before you called me a LWNJ.
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Harrison Bergeron said:

The_barBEARian said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

The_barBEARian said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

Mothra said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

So it is an outrage to use a candidate's family in an ad?

That Acton chick is a certified fabulist loon - totally incompetent nut job. Proves women cannot handle pressure - she'll pull a Lindsey Clancy on Ohio.

Indeed, she is a leftist nut, but it's all about the feelings for voters nowdays.

That said, it was a poor political calculation by V.

I still am trying to clarify - is it a "sin" to have family members speak out against a candidate? Is that forboden?


No but attacking people's families to hurt the person you are running against is a major turn-off for most normal people.

So I am genuinely curious. Do you actually believe a family was attacked. I can never understand if the LWNJs are actually morons or just dedicated to weird Talking Points.

So, I'll ask again: is it wrong to cut an ad with a member of a candidate's family criticizing the candidate?

(we know you cannot answer because LWNJs never can answer specifics, but I like to ask just to demonstrate that again)


First time I've been called a LWNJ on this board before LMAO!

The ad sucks brother. Dont die on this hill.


So, I'll ask again: is it wrong to cut an ad with a member of a candidate's family criticizing the candidate?
While not inherently wrong/illegal, I'm honestly surprised this ad isn't universally condemned from both sides.

This is the testimony from a mother who lost custody of her children following serious allegations of sexual abuse and has been estranged from her daughter for nearly 50 years…
 
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