Epstein - The Scumbaggery Goes Deep

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RD2WINAGNBEAR86
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BrooksBearLives said:

Oh look. Another Trump buddy going down for sex-trafficking, child porn, etc.

George Nader, who served as a go-between for Trump's transition team and Russian and Middle East officials in 2016 and 2017, has been charged with sex trafficking, child pornography and obscenity.

https://www.axios.com/george-nader-sex-trafficking-charges-mueller-witness-6aa8c953-f6b0-4d2c-a4d0-619cd8971e13.html
I am also hearing Trump's pool boy's uncle cheated on his taxes back in 2013. This will be the next 48 hour news cycle. Trump is going down.
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BrooksBearLives said:

Oldbear83 said:

Be nice to BBL, Florda. When Trump gets re-elected, BBL is going to absolutely lose his mind.


I'm a white guy. Trump likes those.

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BrooksBearLives said:

Oldbear83 said:

Be nice to BBL, Florda. When Trump gets re-elected, BBL is going to absolutely lose his mind.


I'm a white guy. Trump likes those.
Okay Big Boy. If you had to vote for President tomorrow, who would you vote for? This is not a trick question. I am truly curious.
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BrooksBearLives said:

D. C. Bear said:

BrooksBearLives said:

Oldbear83 said:

BBL: "Cure cancer? How about just going a week without saying something stupid. "

And yet, not a word from Brooks when Joe "Big f'in Deal" Biden promised to cure cancer.

I don't think Democrats understand the hypocrisy they broadcast.


What? Lol. What does that have to do with anything?

I'm saying my expectations are so low for Trump that I wouldn't even wish for him to try and cure cancer. That's like asking my 3 year old to write a symphony. Start with nighttime potty training.

Trump is a horrible leader. He's completely inept. He has the weakest ego and is utterly incapable of dismissing a slight. He's not at all competent. Remember how many tries it took for him to pass his travel ban? It wasn't because of the rule itself, but because he couldn't shut the **** up about it being a "Muslim ban." People fighting the rule kept winning by quoting the president.

Same thing with the census rule. He couldn't shut the **** up. He kept saying the quiet part out loud.

Don't you ever get tired of having to defend him for the DUMBEST **** he's caused? He simply can't help himself.

Instead of putting these women in their place, he's making them rockstars. Omar's approval rating at home spiked.

And it's only going to get uglier. He's going to make this completely about race and grievance politics for the next 1.5 years. He's going to respond to every slight and take every low road doing it. And republicans and the party will be scarred for it.

And I actually hate that because, in a two party system, we need honest prevaricators on both sides. And while Democrats may be soft and prone to being TOO reactive and bleeding hearts, the demographics of this country are on their side. And this Republican Party is radicalizing the youth of our country.

Something has to change, but it won't so long as people like you blindly support this President even in the face of clear racism on his part.
What do you think he is trying to do?
Pelosi was "putting them in their place." Trump wants them to be rockstars. He wants them to be the face of the Democratic Party. I have friends who, in the aftermath of Trump's tweets, posted their images with the slogan "I'm with them," echoing the slogan of failed candidate Hillary Clinton.

I didn't believe Trump could win the nomination. Somehow that "completely inept" buffoon did.
I didn't believe Trump could win the election. Somehow that "completely inept" buffoon did.
I don't believe Trump will win re-election, but I am not going to underestimate that "completely inept" buffoon.
He is a lot less "completely inept" than we are led to believe.


He's completely inept. He can't even fill a cabinet. He said he'd surround himself with the best people and instead we got a bunch of political neophytes, D-list republicans who couldn't work in any other administration, and a couple walking definitions of nepotism.

He has one of the most effective senate majority leaders of all time, inherited control of both houses and had an insanely favorable senate/ house map in 2018 and he still managed to **** it up completely.

He's not playing 3-dimensional chess. He's a doddy old racist taking advantage of the rotting infrastructure of the modern Republican Party and claiming credit for an economy someone else fixed. Also, gerrymandered states as a result of the 2010 wave election gave him an incredible advantage.

An even MARGINALLY competent President in his place would be so much more successful.

Instead, we have our county's worst person.

I have friends, otherwise quite thoughtful and intelligent, who simultaneously believe that Trump is totally incompetent and that we are in danger of him remaining in office past his elected term. In short, they believe he is so inept that he will be able orchestrate what no other president has ever dared to try.

Saying Trump is "completely inept" is both foolish and dangerous.

Underestimate him at your peril.
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BrooksBearLives said:

Oh look. Another Trump buddy going down for sex-trafficking, child porn, etc.

George Nader, who served as a go-between for Trump's transition team and Russian and Middle East officials in 2016 and 2017, has been charged with sex trafficking, child pornography and obscenity.

https://www.axios.com/george-nader-sex-trafficking-charges-mueller-witness-6aa8c953-f6b0-4d2c-a4d0-619cd8971e13.html


One of Robert Mueller's "witnesses" who made a campaign pitch to be a go-between that the campaign did not pursue?
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Honestly the GOP is overestimating him and potentially at their peril beyond just an election.
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YoakDaddy said:

BrooksBearLives said:

Oh look. Another Trump buddy going down for sex-trafficking, child porn, etc.

George Nader, who served as a go-between for Trump's transition team and Russian and Middle East officials in 2016 and 2017, has been charged with sex trafficking, child pornography and obscenity.

https://www.axios.com/george-nader-sex-trafficking-charges-mueller-witness-6aa8c953-f6b0-4d2c-a4d0-619cd8971e13.html


One of Robert Mueller's "witnesses" who made a campaign pitch to be a go-between that the campaign did not pursue?
"Did not pursue"? He arranged the Seychelles meeting between Erik Prince (as Trump/Bannon's rep) and the head of Russia's Direct Investment Fund.
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PartyBear said:

Honestly the GOP is overestimating him and potentially at their peril beyond just an election.
Have heard this rhetoric for ages about how the Republican Party is on the way out for one reason or another. Usually, it comes from of advice from a well meaning partisan of the other party. Reminds me of Mack Brown's support of Kevin Steele.
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HuMcK said:

YoakDaddy said:

BrooksBearLives said:

Oh look. Another Trump buddy going down for sex-trafficking, child porn, etc.

George Nader, who served as a go-between for Trump's transition team and Russian and Middle East officials in 2016 and 2017, has been charged with sex trafficking, child pornography and obscenity.

https://www.axios.com/george-nader-sex-trafficking-charges-mueller-witness-6aa8c953-f6b0-4d2c-a4d0-619cd8971e13.html


One of Robert Mueller's "witnesses" who made a campaign pitch to be a go-between that the campaign did not pursue?
"Did not pursue"? He arranged the Seychelles meeting between Erik Prince (as Trump/Bannon's rep) and the head of Russia's Direct Investment Fund.

He arranged a meeting and Trump' people didn't pursue anything out of that meeting. So what? He's a pedo perv not once but twice caught....very reliable "witness"....
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Florda_mike said:

BBL = low informed voter

He just wants something for nothing because his wife and 2 kids are starving and BBL was fired from his government Title 9 entitlement job Trump eliminated

BBL is so unemployable he has no chance in private sector
This is over the line, MIke.
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D. C. Bear said:

PartyBear said:

Honestly the GOP is overestimating him and potentially at their peril beyond just an election.
Have heard this rhetoric for ages about how the Republican Party is on the way out for one reason or another. Usually, it comes from of advice from a well meaning partisan of the other party. Reminds me of Mack Brown's support of Kevin Steele.
Well........while Trump having full blown George Wallace type rallies, only helps the Democratic party longer term, I can assure you none of them are advising the GOP to continue to have these types of rallies as they are terrible for the country short term. The Democrats suggesting the GOP keeping these antics up would be more along the lines of your Mack Brown, K Steele analogy.
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PartyBear said:

D. C. Bear said:

PartyBear said:

Honestly the GOP is overestimating him and potentially at their peril beyond just an election.
Have heard this rhetoric for ages about how the Republican Party is on the way out for one reason or another. Usually, it comes from of advice from a well meaning partisan of the other party. Reminds me of Mack Brown's support of Kevin Steele.
Well........while Trump having full blown George Wallace type rallies, only helps the Democratic party longer term, I can assure you none of them are advising the GOP to continue to have these types of rallies as they are terrible for the country short term. The Democrats suggesting the GOP keeping these antics up would be more along the lines of your Mack Brown, K Steele analogy.
I remember George Wallace in his fight against desegregation. Nothing Donald Trump has said or done would make a comparison to Wallace justified or reasonable.

And Wallace was a lifelong Democrat. Trying to paint Trump in Wallace's colors is not going to work.

That's the funny thing about the Left. Trump has said some rude things, and the Left could reasonably call him on them as rude and uncivil. Instead, the Left resorts to their favorite word and tries to shoehorn a rude but unracist statement into something it clearly was not.

That's just one more reason why the Left lost, and will lose, to Trump.
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Oldbear83 said:

BrooksBearLives said:

Oldbear83 said:

Be nice to BBL, Florda. When Trump gets re-elected, BBL is going to absolutely lose his mind.


I'm a white guy. Trump likes those.
Trump loves all good people.




So if he doesn't like someone, they're a bad person?
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Malbec said:

BrooksBearLives said:

Oldbear83 said:

Be nice to BBL, Florda. When Trump gets re-elected, BBL is going to absolutely lose his mind.


I'm a white guy. Trump likes those.




I love this post so much. I Lol'd.
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BrooksBearLives said:

Oldbear83 said:

BrooksBearLives said:

Oldbear83 said:

Be nice to BBL, Florda. When Trump gets re-elected, BBL is going to absolutely lose his mind.


I'm a white guy. Trump likes those.
Trump loves all good people.




So if he doesn't like someone, they're a bad person?

Lindsay Graham said if a Somalian or Muslim wore a MAGA hat then Trump would accept them
Oldbear83
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BrooksBearLives said:

Oldbear83 said:

BrooksBearLives said:

Oldbear83 said:

Be nice to BBL, Florda. When Trump gets re-elected, BBL is going to absolutely lose his mind.


I'm a white guy. Trump likes those.
Trump loves all good people.




So if he doesn't like someone, they're a bad person?
Not what I said.

Is English a foreign language to you, BBL?
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D. C. Bear said:

BrooksBearLives said:

D. C. Bear said:

BrooksBearLives said:

Oldbear83 said:

BBL: "Cure cancer? How about just going a week without saying something stupid. "

And yet, not a word from Brooks when Joe "Big f'in Deal" Biden promised to cure cancer.

I don't think Democrats understand the hypocrisy they broadcast.


What? Lol. What does that have to do with anything?

I'm saying my expectations are so low for Trump that I wouldn't even wish for him to try and cure cancer. That's like asking my 3 year old to write a symphony. Start with nighttime potty training.

Trump is a horrible leader. He's completely inept. He has the weakest ego and is utterly incapable of dismissing a slight. He's not at all competent. Remember how many tries it took for him to pass his travel ban? It wasn't because of the rule itself, but because he couldn't shut the **** up about it being a "Muslim ban." People fighting the rule kept winning by quoting the president.

Same thing with the census rule. He couldn't shut the **** up. He kept saying the quiet part out loud.

Don't you ever get tired of having to defend him for the DUMBEST **** he's caused? He simply can't help himself.

Instead of putting these women in their place, he's making them rockstars. Omar's approval rating at home spiked.

And it's only going to get uglier. He's going to make this completely about race and grievance politics for the next 1.5 years. He's going to respond to every slight and take every low road doing it. And republicans and the party will be scarred for it.

And I actually hate that because, in a two party system, we need honest prevaricators on both sides. And while Democrats may be soft and prone to being TOO reactive and bleeding hearts, the demographics of this country are on their side. And this Republican Party is radicalizing the youth of our country.

Something has to change, but it won't so long as people like you blindly support this President even in the face of clear racism on his part.
What do you think he is trying to do?
Pelosi was "putting them in their place." Trump wants them to be rockstars. He wants them to be the face of the Democratic Party. I have friends who, in the aftermath of Trump's tweets, posted their images with the slogan "I'm with them," echoing the slogan of failed candidate Hillary Clinton.

I didn't believe Trump could win the nomination. Somehow that "completely inept" buffoon did.
I didn't believe Trump could win the election. Somehow that "completely inept" buffoon did.
I don't believe Trump will win re-election, but I am not going to underestimate that "completely inept" buffoon.
He is a lot less "completely inept" than we are led to believe.


He's completely inept. He can't even fill a cabinet. He said he'd surround himself with the best people and instead we got a bunch of political neophytes, D-list republicans who couldn't work in any other administration, and a couple walking definitions of nepotism.

He has one of the most effective senate majority leaders of all time, inherited control of both houses and had an insanely favorable senate/ house map in 2018 and he still managed to **** it up completely.

He's not playing 3-dimensional chess. He's a doddy old racist taking advantage of the rotting infrastructure of the modern Republican Party and claiming credit for an economy someone else fixed. Also, gerrymandered states as a result of the 2010 wave election gave him an incredible advantage.

An even MARGINALLY competent President in his place would be so much more successful.

Instead, we have our county's worst person.

I have friends, otherwise quite thoughtful and intelligent, who simultaneously believe that Trump is totally incompetent and that we are in danger of him remaining in office past his elected term. In short, they believe he is so inept that he will be able orchestrate what no other president has ever dared to try.

Saying Trump is "completely inept" is both foolish and dangerous.

Underestimate him at your peril.


He is good at one thing, capturing media attention. That is it.

He's not the one I worry about. It's the public. There is 40% of this country that does not care what he does. They've decided he is the leader of their movement and -as this conversation proves- will defend him no matter what.

As a leader actually accomplishing anything past election? Incredibly inept. The evidence is overwhelming.
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Oldbear83 said:

BrooksBearLives said:

Oldbear83 said:

BrooksBearLives said:

Oldbear83 said:

Be nice to BBL, Florda. When Trump gets re-elected, BBL is going to absolutely lose his mind.


I'm a white guy. Trump likes those.
Trump loves all good people.




So if he doesn't like someone, they're a bad person?
Not what I said.

Is English a foreign language to you, BBL?


Did you not see the question mark?

If he loves all good people, then who does he hate? It's basic logic. You made the statement. Defend it.
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BrooksBearLives said:

Oldbear83 said:

BrooksBearLives said:

Oldbear83 said:

BrooksBearLives said:

Oldbear83 said:

Be nice to BBL, Florda. When Trump gets re-elected, BBL is going to absolutely lose his mind.


I'm a white guy. Trump likes those.
Trump loves all good people.




So if he doesn't like someone, they're a bad person?
Not what I said.

Is English a foreign language to you, BBL?


Did you not see the question mark?

If he loves all good people, then who does he hate? It's basic logic. You made the statement. Defend it.
It's your assumption, BBL, not mine. And a pathetic one you have there.

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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

BrooksBearLives said:

Oldbear83 said:

Be nice to BBL, Florda. When Trump gets re-elected, BBL is going to absolutely lose his mind.


I'm a white guy. Trump likes those.
Okay Big Boy. If you had to vote for President tomorrow, who would you vote for? This is not a trick question. I am truly curious.


Has he answered yet?
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Mr. Treehorn treats objects like women, man.
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trey3216 said:




You're not even safe from the Clinton's in your own jail cell.
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Clinton Murder Inc. gave him two options. He has a week to implement option #1 on himself, option #2 will commence at the start of August and he won't have a choice in the matter at that point.

Either way, like everyone before, he will not be able to inflict any damage on CMI ...and that is a guarantee.
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One theory is it was self inflicted to get transfer from current facility

Funny how it ties into Clinton Murder Inc being discussed

As the liberal doubters try to divert?
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Y'all are wild.

Hillary Clinton is simultaneously a criminal mastermind that could kill dozens of people and never so much as get an investigation, but she also is a doddy old woman with concussions who can't figure out email.

Y'all are too much.
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Florda_mike said:

One theory is it was self inflicted to get transfer from current facility

Funny how it ties into Clinton Murder Inc being discussed

As the liberal doubters try to divert?
Maybe he would like a solitary prison, a` la Rudolf Hess at Spandau.
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^^^ Local child found alive with concussion
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Textbook Mossad...

So, apologies in advance, but I want to do a quick little THREAD to explain my theory of what the Epstein story really is. I promise this isn't some crazy Pizzagate conspiracy about space lizards, just a neat little explanation that IMO perfectly fits the known facts (0/13):

(1/13) Let's take as our starting points two givens.
(A.) You are a committed, unrepentant pedophile
(B.) Because of your old job in private banking, you are very connected to lots of very, very wealthy people
We'll also assume a goal:
(Z.) You want to become very rich

(2/13) The obvious route is, well, obvious: you could just be a pimp, offering underage prostitute services to very rich people. This has two problems: you're very disposable (see: DC madam), and it's also not super lucrative. You can't charge millions of dollars up front.

(3/13) The second level though follows instantly: You don't need to charge up front, just get them to have underage sex, and then blackmail them afterwards for hush money. Better ROI, but you're still a liability, and producing and receiving big bribe money raises big questions.

(4/13) So, what to do? Well, the second idea has some merits. First, you need to recruit people in. Have lots of massive parties at your spacious home (check), invite top academics, artists, politicians to encourage people to come (check), and supply lots of young women (check)

(5/13) You don't even have to do anything, and most people invited might even be totally unaware of the real purpose of the parties! But, sooner or later, some billionaire will get handsy, she'll escort him to a room with a hidden camera, things happen. Morning after, you strike.

(6/13) You inform him she was really 15, but you offer him a nice, neat way to buy your silence: a large allocation to your hedge fund, which charges 2/20 (check). To ensure nobody else asks questions, you also take the extraordinary step of demanding power of attorney (check)

(7/13) The fund is offshore in a tax haven (check) and nobody will see the client list (check). Of course, you don't really know anything about investing, instead making up some nonsense about currency trading (check), and nobody on Wall Street has ever traded with you (check)

(8/13) The fund itself doesn't need investment personnel (check), only some back office people to process the wires (check). You don't want to money from non-pedophiles, or they'll notice you've just put it in a S&P 500 fund, so you reject all incoming inquiries (check)

(9/13) A $20 million wire from Billionaire X to you with no obvious reason will raise many questions, and the IRS will certainly want to know what you did to warrant it. A $5 million quarterly fee for managing $1 billion in assets? Nobody bats an eye.

(10/13) Because of this structure, you're extraordinarily secretive about client lists (check) because they aren't clients, they're pedophiles paying you bribes, and they also are very secretive, which is why no letters or return streams ever leak (check)

(11/13) Occasionally you may also try this trick on other people: important political figures, mayors, prosecutors, etc. They don't invest in the fund, but it's nice to have them in your pocket. Others (academics, artists, etc.) can just be bought with money as a PR smokescreen.

(12/13) And, of course, the scam can be kept going as long as people are willing to pay, which is forever. If you're ever caught, just lean on some of your other friends in government to lean on the prosecutor to get you a sweetheart deal. There's almost zero risk.

(13/13) And the last piece of the puzzle is the evidence. You'd want it somewhere remote, but accessible: a place the US can't touch but you have an excuse to visit all the time to update. Remember that offshore fund?

I bet there's a *very* interesting safe deposit box there.

Two small points of clarification:
1. This scheme works just as well if the billionaires are in on it from the getgo as a way to buy sex; I assumed that was obvious but I guess not.
2. There's no need to invoke the Mafia/Russia/Mossad/CIA/etc, that's just needlessly overfitting.

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1148303671857491968.html
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ValhallaBear said:

Textbook Mossad...

So, apologies in advance, but I want to do a quick little THREAD to explain my theory of what the Epstein story really is. I promise this isn't some crazy Pizzagate conspiracy about space lizards, just a neat little explanation that IMO perfectly fits the known facts (0/13):

(1/13) Let's take as our starting points two givens.
(A.) You are a committed, unrepentant pedophile
(B.) Because of your old job in private banking, you are very connected to lots of very, very wealthy people
We'll also assume a goal:
(Z.) You want to become very rich

(2/13) The obvious route is, well, obvious: you could just be a pimp, offering underage prostitute services to very rich people. This has two problems: you're very disposable (see: DC madam), and it's also not super lucrative. You can't charge millions of dollars up front.

(3/13) The second level though follows instantly: You don't need to charge up front, just get them to have underage sex, and then blackmail them afterwards for hush money. Better ROI, but you're still a liability, and producing and receiving big bribe money raises big questions.

(4/13) So, what to do? Well, the second idea has some merits. First, you need to recruit people in. Have lots of massive parties at your spacious home (check), invite top academics, artists, politicians to encourage people to come (check), and supply lots of young women (check)

(5/13) You don't even have to do anything, and most people invited might even be totally unaware of the real purpose of the parties! But, sooner or later, some billionaire will get handsy, she'll escort him to a room with a hidden camera, things happen. Morning after, you strike.

(6/13) You inform him she was really 15, but you offer him a nice, neat way to buy your silence: a large allocation to your hedge fund, which charges 2/20 (check). To ensure nobody else asks questions, you also take the extraordinary step of demanding power of attorney (check)

(7/13) The fund is offshore in a tax haven (check) and nobody will see the client list (check). Of course, you don't really know anything about investing, instead making up some nonsense about currency trading (check), and nobody on Wall Street has ever traded with you (check)

(8/13) The fund itself doesn't need investment personnel (check), only some back office people to process the wires (check). You don't want to money from non-pedophiles, or they'll notice you've just put it in a S&P 500 fund, so you reject all incoming inquiries (check)

(9/13) A $20 million wire from Billionaire X to you with no obvious reason will raise many questions, and the IRS will certainly want to know what you did to warrant it. A $5 million quarterly fee for managing $1 billion in assets? Nobody bats an eye.

(10/13) Because of this structure, you're extraordinarily secretive about client lists (check) because they aren't clients, they're pedophiles paying you bribes, and they also are very secretive, which is why no letters or return streams ever leak (check)

(11/13) Occasionally you may also try this trick on other people: important political figures, mayors, prosecutors, etc. They don't invest in the fund, but it's nice to have them in your pocket. Others (academics, artists, etc.) can just be bought with money as a PR smokescreen.

(12/13) And, of course, the scam can be kept going as long as people are willing to pay, which is forever. If you're ever caught, just lean on some of your other friends in government to lean on the prosecutor to get you a sweetheart deal. There's almost zero risk.

(13/13) And the last piece of the puzzle is the evidence. You'd want it somewhere remote, but accessible: a place the US can't touch but you have an excuse to visit all the time to update. Remember that offshore fund?

I bet there's a *very* interesting safe deposit box there.

Two small points of clarification:
1. This scheme works just as well if the billionaires are in on it from the getgo as a way to buy sex; I assumed that was obvious but I guess not.
2. There's no need to invoke the Mafia/Russia/Mossad/CIA/etc, that's just needlessly overfitting.

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1148303671857491968.html

Interesting....I tend to think he's a Mossad asset because of his ties. That thought leads me to think he's been told to "kill yourself before you squeal or we'll do it for you".
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ValhallaBear said:

Textbook Mossad...

So, apologies in advance, but I want to do a quick little THREAD to explain my theory of what the Epstein story really is. I promise this isn't some crazy Pizzagate conspiracy about space lizards, just a neat little explanation that IMO perfectly fits the known facts (0/13):

(1/13) Let's take as our starting points two givens.
(A.) You are a committed, unrepentant pedophile
(B.) Because of your old job in private banking, you are very connected to lots of very, very wealthy people
We'll also assume a goal:
(Z.) You want to become very rich

(2/13) The obvious route is, well, obvious: you could just be a pimp, offering underage prostitute services to very rich people. This has two problems: you're very disposable (see: DC madam), and it's also not super lucrative. You can't charge millions of dollars up front.

(3/13) The second level though follows instantly: You don't need to charge up front, just get them to have underage sex, and then blackmail them afterwards for hush money. Better ROI, but you're still a liability, and producing and receiving big bribe money raises big questions.

(4/13) So, what to do? Well, the second idea has some merits. First, you need to recruit people in. Have lots of massive parties at your spacious home (check), invite top academics, artists, politicians to encourage people to come (check), and supply lots of young women (check)

(5/13) You don't even have to do anything, and most people invited might even be totally unaware of the real purpose of the parties! But, sooner or later, some billionaire will get handsy, she'll escort him to a room with a hidden camera, things happen. Morning after, you strike.

(6/13) You inform him she was really 15, but you offer him a nice, neat way to buy your silence: a large allocation to your hedge fund, which charges 2/20 (check). To ensure nobody else asks questions, you also take the extraordinary step of demanding power of attorney (check)

(7/13) The fund is offshore in a tax haven (check) and nobody will see the client list (check). Of course, you don't really know anything about investing, instead making up some nonsense about currency trading (check), and nobody on Wall Street has ever traded with you (check)

(8/13) The fund itself doesn't need investment personnel (check), only some back office people to process the wires (check). You don't want to money from non-pedophiles, or they'll notice you've just put it in a S&P 500 fund, so you reject all incoming inquiries (check)

(9/13) A $20 million wire from Billionaire X to you with no obvious reason will raise many questions, and the IRS will certainly want to know what you did to warrant it. A $5 million quarterly fee for managing $1 billion in assets? Nobody bats an eye.

(10/13) Because of this structure, you're extraordinarily secretive about client lists (check) because they aren't clients, they're pedophiles paying you bribes, and they also are very secretive, which is why no letters or return streams ever leak (check)

(11/13) Occasionally you may also try this trick on other people: important political figures, mayors, prosecutors, etc. They don't invest in the fund, but it's nice to have them in your pocket. Others (academics, artists, etc.) can just be bought with money as a PR smokescreen.

(12/13) And, of course, the scam can be kept going as long as people are willing to pay, which is forever. If you're ever caught, just lean on some of your other friends in government to lean on the prosecutor to get you a sweetheart deal. There's almost zero risk.

(13/13) And the last piece of the puzzle is the evidence. You'd want it somewhere remote, but accessible: a place the US can't touch but you have an excuse to visit all the time to update. Remember that offshore fund?

I bet there's a *very* interesting safe deposit box there.

Two small points of clarification:
1. This scheme works just as well if the billionaires are in on it from the getgo as a way to buy sex; I assumed that was obvious but I guess not.
2. There's no need to invoke the Mafia/Russia/Mossad/CIA/etc, that's just needlessly overfitting.

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1148303671857491968.html
https://digest.bps.org.uk/2017/04/05/why-more-highly-educated-people-are-less-into-conspiracy-theories/
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The CIA invented the term 'conspiracy theorist' after the Kennedy assassination to discourage people from seeking the truth.

Since you've been suckling the government tit your entire career it's no wonder you have so much faith in your daddy Uncle Sam
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BrooksBearLives said:

ValhallaBear said:

Textbook Mossad...

So, apologies in advance, but I want to do a quick little THREAD to explain my theory of what the Epstein story really is. I promise this isn't some crazy Pizzagate conspiracy about space lizards, just a neat little explanation that IMO perfectly fits the known facts (0/13):

(1/13) Let's take as our starting points two givens.
(A.) You are a committed, unrepentant pedophile
(B.) Because of your old job in private banking, you are very connected to lots of very, very wealthy people
We'll also assume a goal:
(Z.) You want to become very rich

(2/13) The obvious route is, well, obvious: you could just be a pimp, offering underage prostitute services to very rich people. This has two problems: you're very disposable (see: DC madam), and it's also not super lucrative. You can't charge millions of dollars up front.

(3/13) The second level though follows instantly: You don't need to charge up front, just get them to have underage sex, and then blackmail them afterwards for hush money. Better ROI, but you're still a liability, and producing and receiving big bribe money raises big questions.

(4/13) So, what to do? Well, the second idea has some merits. First, you need to recruit people in. Have lots of massive parties at your spacious home (check), invite top academics, artists, politicians to encourage people to come (check), and supply lots of young women (check)

(5/13) You don't even have to do anything, and most people invited might even be totally unaware of the real purpose of the parties! But, sooner or later, some billionaire will get handsy, she'll escort him to a room with a hidden camera, things happen. Morning after, you strike.

(6/13) You inform him she was really 15, but you offer him a nice, neat way to buy your silence: a large allocation to your hedge fund, which charges 2/20 (check). To ensure nobody else asks questions, you also take the extraordinary step of demanding power of attorney (check)

(7/13) The fund is offshore in a tax haven (check) and nobody will see the client list (check). Of course, you don't really know anything about investing, instead making up some nonsense about currency trading (check), and nobody on Wall Street has ever traded with you (check)

(8/13) The fund itself doesn't need investment personnel (check), only some back office people to process the wires (check). You don't want to money from non-pedophiles, or they'll notice you've just put it in a S&P 500 fund, so you reject all incoming inquiries (check)

(9/13) A $20 million wire from Billionaire X to you with no obvious reason will raise many questions, and the IRS will certainly want to know what you did to warrant it. A $5 million quarterly fee for managing $1 billion in assets? Nobody bats an eye.

(10/13) Because of this structure, you're extraordinarily secretive about client lists (check) because they aren't clients, they're pedophiles paying you bribes, and they also are very secretive, which is why no letters or return streams ever leak (check)

(11/13) Occasionally you may also try this trick on other people: important political figures, mayors, prosecutors, etc. They don't invest in the fund, but it's nice to have them in your pocket. Others (academics, artists, etc.) can just be bought with money as a PR smokescreen.

(12/13) And, of course, the scam can be kept going as long as people are willing to pay, which is forever. If you're ever caught, just lean on some of your other friends in government to lean on the prosecutor to get you a sweetheart deal. There's almost zero risk.

(13/13) And the last piece of the puzzle is the evidence. You'd want it somewhere remote, but accessible: a place the US can't touch but you have an excuse to visit all the time to update. Remember that offshore fund?

I bet there's a *very* interesting safe deposit box there.

Two small points of clarification:
1. This scheme works just as well if the billionaires are in on it from the getgo as a way to buy sex; I assumed that was obvious but I guess not.
2. There's no need to invoke the Mafia/Russia/Mossad/CIA/etc, that's just needlessly overfitting.

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1148303671857491968.html
https://digest.bps.org.uk/2017/04/05/why-more-highly-educated-people-are-less-into-conspiracy-theories/
His argument really isn't a conspiracy theory. It's actually closer to Occam's Razor. And it doesn't even have to involve Mossad or other foreign intelligence agencies. It could be that he's just a dude that found an easy way to swindle other powerful people out of hundreds of millions of dollars, and do it in plain sight (basically legally, aside from the pedophilia backdrop).
Mr. Treehorn treats objects like women, man.
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ValhallaBear said:

The CIA invented the term 'conspiracy theorist' after the Kennedy assassination to discourage people from seeking the truth.

Since you've been suckling the government tit your entire career it's no wonder you have so much faith in your daddy Uncle Sam


It didn't work too well for the CIA. Kennedy was dead on arrival the minute he and the Mrs. arrived in Dallas. The President was riding 8 cars back in a lovely Lincoln when JFK was shot.

Jeffrey is wanting to check out. He has major ties to powerful factions on both sides. No one needs to kill him. He's slumping because there are no more underaged girls for him.
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ValhallaBear said:

The CIA invented the term 'conspiracy theorist' after the Kennedy assassination to discourage people from seeking the truth.

Since you've been suckling the government tit your entire career it's no wonder you have so much faith in your daddy Uncle Sam


Amen brother on that
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trey3216 said:

BrooksBearLives said:

ValhallaBear said:

Textbook Mossad...

So, apologies in advance, but I want to do a quick little THREAD to explain my theory of what the Epstein story really is. I promise this isn't some crazy Pizzagate conspiracy about space lizards, just a neat little explanation that IMO perfectly fits the known facts (0/13):

(1/13) Let's take as our starting points two givens.
(A.) You are a committed, unrepentant pedophile
(B.) Because of your old job in private banking, you are very connected to lots of very, very wealthy people
We'll also assume a goal:
(Z.) You want to become very rich

(2/13) The obvious route is, well, obvious: you could just be a pimp, offering underage prostitute services to very rich people. This has two problems: you're very disposable (see: DC madam), and it's also not super lucrative. You can't charge millions of dollars up front.

(3/13) The second level though follows instantly: You don't need to charge up front, just get them to have underage sex, and then blackmail them afterwards for hush money. Better ROI, but you're still a liability, and producing and receiving big bribe money raises big questions.

(4/13) So, what to do? Well, the second idea has some merits. First, you need to recruit people in. Have lots of massive parties at your spacious home (check), invite top academics, artists, politicians to encourage people to come (check), and supply lots of young women (check)

(5/13) You don't even have to do anything, and most people invited might even be totally unaware of the real purpose of the parties! But, sooner or later, some billionaire will get handsy, she'll escort him to a room with a hidden camera, things happen. Morning after, you strike.

(6/13) You inform him she was really 15, but you offer him a nice, neat way to buy your silence: a large allocation to your hedge fund, which charges 2/20 (check). To ensure nobody else asks questions, you also take the extraordinary step of demanding power of attorney (check)

(7/13) The fund is offshore in a tax haven (check) and nobody will see the client list (check). Of course, you don't really know anything about investing, instead making up some nonsense about currency trading (check), and nobody on Wall Street has ever traded with you (check)

(8/13) The fund itself doesn't need investment personnel (check), only some back office people to process the wires (check). You don't want to money from non-pedophiles, or they'll notice you've just put it in a S&P 500 fund, so you reject all incoming inquiries (check)

(9/13) A $20 million wire from Billionaire X to you with no obvious reason will raise many questions, and the IRS will certainly want to know what you did to warrant it. A $5 million quarterly fee for managing $1 billion in assets? Nobody bats an eye.

(10/13) Because of this structure, you're extraordinarily secretive about client lists (check) because they aren't clients, they're pedophiles paying you bribes, and they also are very secretive, which is why no letters or return streams ever leak (check)

(11/13) Occasionally you may also try this trick on other people: important political figures, mayors, prosecutors, etc. They don't invest in the fund, but it's nice to have them in your pocket. Others (academics, artists, etc.) can just be bought with money as a PR smokescreen.

(12/13) And, of course, the scam can be kept going as long as people are willing to pay, which is forever. If you're ever caught, just lean on some of your other friends in government to lean on the prosecutor to get you a sweetheart deal. There's almost zero risk.

(13/13) And the last piece of the puzzle is the evidence. You'd want it somewhere remote, but accessible: a place the US can't touch but you have an excuse to visit all the time to update. Remember that offshore fund?

I bet there's a *very* interesting safe deposit box there.

Two small points of clarification:
1. This scheme works just as well if the billionaires are in on it from the getgo as a way to buy sex; I assumed that was obvious but I guess not.
2. There's no need to invoke the Mafia/Russia/Mossad/CIA/etc, that's just needlessly overfitting.

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1148303671857491968.html
https://digest.bps.org.uk/2017/04/05/why-more-highly-educated-people-are-less-into-conspiracy-theories/
His argument really isn't a conspiracy theory. It's actually closer to Occam's Razor. And it doesn't even have to involve Mossad or other foreign intelligence agencies. It could be that he's just a dude that found an easy way to swindle other powerful people out of hundreds of millions of dollars, and do it in plain sight (basically a legally, aside from the pedophilia backdrop).


1. It's not HIS argument. It's one he stole from somewhere else.

2. He argues it's MOSSAD pretty clearly. He wants to believe this as it allows him to clear Trump and make him a victim.

3. It all falls apart if you read actual accounts by the victims themselves -and there are many and they are pretty strong.

Epstein was having underage women come to give him massages and more at his house, with no one else around. HE was the one doing it. If he was blackmailing anyone, why has none of it surfaced? This is the time to play those cards.

Occam's razor says this is a dude who used his position of power to do ****ty things to women. No intricate schemes, just a dude with power taking advantage of young women.
 
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