Not my thing, son.

Oldbear83 said:

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Not my thing, son.

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Lol
First of all, I was directing that comment to the vegan kid.

Secondly, you are only about 9 years older than me (assuming 83 was your graduation year)...
So don't call me "son"... unless you want me to break your hip, old man!

ShooterTX said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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Not my thing, son.

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Lol
First of all, I was directing that comment to the vegan kid.

Secondly, you are only about 9 years older than me (assuming 83 was your graduation year)...
So don't call me "son"... unless you want me to break your hip, old man!

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Noted, my apologies. Spent the last hour cleaning up after an incontinent dog, and did not read properly, nor write correctly.

Thank you for your comment, sir.

Oldbear83 said:

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Gotta remind you again quash, I appreciate all the attention, but I'm married and you are headed for stalker territory.

I explained why I'm not playing your game, so you're just going to have to settle for playing by yourself.

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Your claim, your game.

But I understand why you are running away from it now.

quash said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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Gotta remind you again quash, I appreciate all the attention, but I'm married and you are headed for stalker territory.

I explained why I'm not playing your game, so you're just going to have to settle for playing by yourself.

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Your claim, your game.

But I understand why you are running away from it now.

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Not running away from anything. I never have, and you know that, quash.

But why go through the motions when I know what will happen?

A) I post the quotes

B) You have seen them but ignore them, and either ignore them again, or else you claim they don't mean what they say

It's your habit, second nature, to ignore any evidence you don't like.

I get it - pretty much no one on the Internet changes their opinion, let alone admits they were wrong.

So go tell your friends how you "won" again, and let's move on to the next impasse.

fadskier said:

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Why does anyone want to be vegan? Weirdos.

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Health reasons. No cholesterol in plants.

Oldbear83 said:

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quash said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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Gotta remind you again quash, I appreciate all the attention, but I'm married and you are headed for stalker territory.

I explained why I'm not playing your game, so you're just going to have to settle for playing by yourself.

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Your claim, your game.

But I understand why you are running away from it now.

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Not running away from anything. I never have, and you know that, quash.

But why go through the motions when I know what will happen?

A) I post the quotes

B) You have seen them but ignore them, and either ignore them again, or else you claim they don't mean what they say

It's your habit, second nature, to ignore any evidence you don't like.

I get it - pretty much no one on the Internet changes their opinion, let alone admits they were wrong.

So go tell your friends how you "won" again, and let's move on to the next impasse.

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A) never happens.

That is why I did your homework and posted all the quotes in one place to make it easy for you..

Here's the problem: TS never did what you charged him with, what you called him a list about when he denied it.

"A) never happens."

Yes it does, I'm just choosy about to whom I answer. I pay attention to who responds with substance and courtesy (Sam, Tommie, Pale Rider, some others) and who never does (Golem, Cinque, Jinx, you, some others), and make my decision on who is worth the work.

You are a very dishonest person in debates, which again happens a lot on the internet. The funny thing is you don't seem to realize everyone knows your habits.

tommie said:

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fadskier said:

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Why does anyone want to be vegan? Weirdos.

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Health reasons. No cholesterol in plants.

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And personal choice. Diet is like clothes in some ways. I heard a radio guy yesterday talk about how Nike is a popular shoe for people with narrow feet, while New Balance is more popular for people with wide feet.

Body chemistry was never one-size-fits-all, which is why people are often reminded to talk with their primary care provider before making major changes in their diet.

Oldbear83 said:

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tommie said:

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fadskier said:

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Why does anyone want to be vegan? Weirdos.

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Health reasons. No cholesterol in plants.

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And personal choice. Diet is like clothes in some ways. I heard a radio guy yesterday talk about how Nike is a popular shoe for people with narrow feet, while New Balance is more popular for people with wide feet.

Body chemistry was never one-size-fits-all, which is why people are often reminded to talk with their primary care provider before making major changes in their diet.

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I don't disagree. If it's healthy for you or religious or personal, it's as good a reason as any other.

Oldbear83 said:

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"A) never happens."

Yes it does, I'm just choosy about to whom I answer. I pay attention to who responds with substance and courtesy (Sam, Tommie, Pale Rider, some others) and who never does (Golem, Cinque, Jinx, you, some others), and make my decision on who is worth the work.

You are a very dishonest person in debates, which again happens a lot on the internet. The funny thing is you don't seem to realize everyone knows your habits.

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I'm sure plenty of people are aware of my habit of calling you out for overusing your favorite word: "liar".

quash said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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"A) never happens."

Yes it does, I'm just choosy about to whom I answer. I pay attention to who responds with substance and courtesy (Sam, Tommie, Pale Rider, some others) and who never does (Golem, Cinque, Jinx, you, some others), and make my decision on who is worth the work.

You are a very dishonest person in debates, which again happens a lot on the internet. The funny thing is you don't seem to realize everyone knows your habits.

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I'm sure plenty of people are aware of my habit of calling you out for overusing your favorite word: "liar".

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I call what is there.

tommie said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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tommie said:

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fadskier said:

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Why does anyone want to be vegan? Weirdos.

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Health reasons. No cholesterol in plants.

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And personal choice. Diet is like clothes in some ways. I heard a radio guy yesterday talk about how Nike is a popular shoe for people with narrow feet, while New Balance is more popular for people with wide feet.

Body chemistry was never one-size-fits-all, which is why people are often reminded to talk with their primary care provider before making major changes in their diet.

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I don't disagree. If it's healthy for you or religious or personal, it's as good a reason as any other.

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I read some time ago, that people who observe Kosher or Halal diets are usually healthier than those who do not, in some part due to the belief that their diet is better for them.

You can only take that so far, of course: I can't imagine a steady diet of fast food is OK just because someone wants it to be so, but I do think there is a psychosomatic effect.

tommie said:

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fadskier said:

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Why does anyone want to be vegan? Weirdos.

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Health reasons. No cholesterol in plants.

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Not a want but a need.

Oldbear83 said:

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quash said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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"A) never happens."

Yes it does, I'm just choosy about to whom I answer. I pay attention to who responds with substance and courtesy (Sam, Tommie, Pale Rider, some others) and who never does (Golem, Cinque, Jinx, you, some others), and make my decision on who is worth the work.

You are a very dishonest person in debates, which again happens a lot on the internet. The funny thing is you don't seem to realize everyone knows your habits.

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I'm sure plenty of people are aware of my habit of calling you out for overusing your favorite word: "liar".

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I call what is there.

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There's no there there in this case.

"there there"

Yes, there there it will be OK. Just tell the other kids you won, and move on.

quash said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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quash said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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quash said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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quash said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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TexasScientist said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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ts: "I've never demanded anyone live by my diet."

Anyone reading your posts here knows that is a false claim.

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Since you like to quote me, I challenge you to find anywhere I have demanded anyone to live by my diet on this board.

You can find posts with the intent to show people a better way, how to maintain/regain their health, and avoid the morbidity of chronic disease management pervasive to our medical industry. A standard American diet leads to unnecessary chronic health issues.

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You have the writing style matching Antifa's behavior at public events

Your "better way" is completely subjective bias, simply the extreme opposite of the Paleo fanatics.

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So, no quotes of TS demanding people to live by his diet?

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It's apparent to anyone reading through this thread. There's no use pointing that out to those who share his tactics.

So I'm not wasting the effort I know would be ignored.

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Oh no, not at all. If you actually backed up one of your charges with actual quotes it would be unignorably rare.

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I answer according to the merit of the inquirer.

You don't merit.

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What does your integrity merit?

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More than I have ever seen from you.

Remember, you did ask.

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31 posts in this thread before TS made his first. Six of those 31 were yours. Let's examine all of the posts by TS for evidence of demands that we live by his diet.
"The McLean was created to try and generate a market. There already is a plant based market out there that wants these products. It will continue and grow. It is one step closer to healthier eating."

"You clearly do not know what you are talking about. A whole food plant based diet provides all of the nutrients you need for health. There is nothing, I repeat nothing that you need from meat, and there is nothing you cannot get from plants such as protein, amino acids, and omega 3s. What you won't get from plants is heart disease, embolic strokes, type 2 diabetes and some cancers. You will get micronutrients and phytochemicals that are required for a fully functioning immune system. The research is overwhelming. www.nutritionfacts.org"

"A meat centric diet promotes IBS."

"It's not just 'vegan.' There is plenty of vegan junk food that is unhealthy. A healthy diet comes from a whole food plant based diet. Fruits, vegetables, legumes, nuts, seeds and whole grains. Avoiding saturated fats, processed foods, dairy products and meat. I've spent years researching this subject. I've seen major health issues reversed through changing to a whole food plant based diet, along with natural weight loss."

"That's great. Are you on any meds, and what is your typical total cholesterol and BP, if you don't mind I ask?"

"And from what I read/hear from vegans, a vegan diet promotes arrogance and intolerance."

Oops, no that was your post...

"Examples?"

" "

"Your overstating the facts once again does nothing for proving your point. I've never demanded anyone live by my diet. I've shared what I know to be a diet that adds longevity, and can prevent and even reverse certain medical conditions and disease, for the purpose of helping others who are interested in a healthier lifestyle. You just don't like me, and want to dismiss anything I have to say. However, this is something that I know quite a bit about for various reasons, and I do have some credentials in this area. I've never asked you or anyone to just take my word for it. I've given you links and references to prominent MDs and researchers. I can tell you that Dr.'s Colin Campbell, Joel Fuhrman, John McDougall, Caldwell Esselstyn, Neal Barnard, Joel Kahn, Kim Williams, Dean Ornish, Baxter Montgomery, Michael Greger, and Garth Davis all will tell you a meat centric diet is harmful, and that more than anything else, dairy is one of the worse things you can eat or drink. The independent non dairy industry sponsored research reflects this. Especially many Asians are lactose intolerant. Research shows that adding dairy to your diet pushes your body chemistry to be more acidic, and you body will actually leach calcium from your bones to buffer the acidity. That's one reason why studies have shown that countries that consume the most in dairy products have the highest hip fracture rates and osteoporosis. Don't take my word for it, go to nutritionfacts.org .

Dairy is full of IGF1, and other growth hormones (not to mention cholesterol) that promote rapid growth in a calf, which also happens to fuel rapid growing cancer cells. I recommend your wife consult with some other doctors that are knowledgeable in nutrition, and not a doctor that has been educated by the dairy industry. Call Dr. John McDougall www.drmcdougall.com, or Dr. Joel Fuhrman, www.drfuhrman.com, or Dr. Neal Barnard www.pcrm.org, Dr. Caldwell Esselstyn at the Cleveland Clinic, or Dean Ornish at University of California, San Francisco."

"Like the word, LOL. Fantastic results. What we eat is critical to our overall health. Most MD's don't understand nutrition, because it is not taught in med school, but that is beginning to change now."

And then your claim: "ts: "I've never demanded anyone live by my diet."

Anyone reading your posts here knows that is a false claim."

So, all in one place, just show us the demand. You can do it.

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Could it be OB83 can't produce that which does not exist? Thanks.

TexasScientist said:

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quash said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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quash said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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quash said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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quash said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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TexasScientist said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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ts: "I've never demanded anyone live by my diet."

Anyone reading your posts here knows that is a false claim.

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Since you like to quote me, I challenge you to find anywhere I have demanded anyone to live by my diet on this board.

You can find posts with the intent to show people a better way, how to maintain/regain their health, and avoid the morbidity of chronic disease management pervasive to our medical industry. A standard American diet leads to unnecessary chronic health issues.

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You have the writing style matching Antifa's behavior at public events

Your "better way" is completely subjective bias, simply the extreme opposite of the Paleo fanatics.

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So, no quotes of TS demanding people to live by his diet?

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It's apparent to anyone reading through this thread. There's no use pointing that out to those who share his tactics.

So I'm not wasting the effort I know would be ignored.

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Oh no, not at all. If you actually backed up one of your charges with actual quotes it would be unignorably rare.

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I answer according to the merit of the inquirer.

You don't merit.

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What does your integrity merit?

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More than I have ever seen from you.

Remember, you did ask.

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31 posts in this thread before TS made his first. Six of those 31 were yours. Let's examine all of the posts by TS for evidence of demands that we live by his diet.
"The McLean was created to try and generate a market. There already is a plant based market out there that wants these products. It will continue and grow. It is one step closer to healthier eating."

"You clearly do not know what you are talking about. A whole food plant based diet provides all of the nutrients you need for health. There is nothing, I repeat nothing that you need from meat, and there is nothing you cannot get from plants such as protein, amino acids, and omega 3s. What you won't get from plants is heart disease, embolic strokes, type 2 diabetes and some cancers. You will get micronutrients and phytochemicals that are required for a fully functioning immune system. The research is overwhelming. www.nutritionfacts.org"

"A meat centric diet promotes IBS."

"It's not just 'vegan.' There is plenty of vegan junk food that is unhealthy. A healthy diet comes from a whole food plant based diet. Fruits, vegetables, legumes, nuts, seeds and whole grains. Avoiding saturated fats, processed foods, dairy products and meat. I've spent years researching this subject. I've seen major health issues reversed through changing to a whole food plant based diet, along with natural weight loss."

"That's great. Are you on any meds, and what is your typical total cholesterol and BP, if you don't mind I ask?"

"And from what I read/hear from vegans, a vegan diet promotes arrogance and intolerance."

Oops, no that was your post...

"Examples?"

" "

"Your overstating the facts once again does nothing for proving your point. I've never demanded anyone live by my diet. I've shared what I know to be a diet that adds longevity, and can prevent and even reverse certain medical conditions and disease, for the purpose of helping others who are interested in a healthier lifestyle. You just don't like me, and want to dismiss anything I have to say. However, this is something that I know quite a bit about for various reasons, and I do have some credentials in this area. I've never asked you or anyone to just take my word for it. I've given you links and references to prominent MDs and researchers. I can tell you that Dr.'s Colin Campbell, Joel Fuhrman, John McDougall, Caldwell Esselstyn, Neal Barnard, Joel Kahn, Kim Williams, Dean Ornish, Baxter Montgomery, Michael Greger, and Garth Davis all will tell you a meat centric diet is harmful, and that more than anything else, dairy is one of the worse things you can eat or drink. The independent non dairy industry sponsored research reflects this. Especially many Asians are lactose intolerant. Research shows that adding dairy to your diet pushes your body chemistry to be more acidic, and you body will actually leach calcium from your bones to buffer the acidity. That's one reason why studies have shown that countries that consume the most in dairy products have the highest hip fracture rates and osteoporosis. Don't take my word for it, go to nutritionfacts.org .

Dairy is full of IGF1, and other growth hormones (not to mention cholesterol) that promote rapid growth in a calf, which also happens to fuel rapid growing cancer cells. I recommend your wife consult with some other doctors that are knowledgeable in nutrition, and not a doctor that has been educated by the dairy industry. Call Dr. John McDougall www.drmcdougall.com, or Dr. Joel Fuhrman, www.drfuhrman.com, or Dr. Neal Barnard www.pcrm.org, Dr. Caldwell Esselstyn at the Cleveland Clinic, or Dean Ornish at University of California, San Francisco."

"Like the word, LOL. Fantastic results. What we eat is critical to our overall health. Most MD's don't understand nutrition, because it is not taught in med school, but that is beginning to change now."

And then your claim: "ts: "I've never demanded anyone live by my diet."

Anyone reading your posts here knows that is a false claim."

So, all in one place, just show us the demand. You can do it.

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Could it be OB83 can't produce that which does not exist? Thanks.

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More like I don't need to point out the obvious, especially when it gets ignored by those most in need of observation.

Go lecture someone else.

If anyone has a chance to try this thing...you probably shouldn't.

Rat Feeding Study Suggests the Impossible Burger May Not Be Safe to Eat

Sam Lowry said:

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If anyone has a chance to try this thing...you probably shouldn't.

Rat Feeding Study Suggests the Impossible Burger May Not Be Safe to Eat

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Well that didn't make the advertisements.

Sam Lowry said:

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If anyone has a chance to try this thing...you probably shouldn't.

Rat Feeding Study Suggests the Impossible Burger May Not Be Safe to Eat

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Anti-GMO group says GMO is bad. Dog bites man.

quash said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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If anyone has a chance to try this thing...you probably shouldn't.

Rat Feeding Study Suggests the Impossible Burger May Not Be Safe to Eat

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Anti-GMO group says GMO is bad. Dog bites man.

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Point is, maybe don't bite the fake burger.

ShooterTX said:

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Veganism is a self correcting fad... they will all die from malnutrition.
The meatless burger is an attempt to get the last few dollars from a dying group of suicidal idiots.

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It depends upon what they are made of. If they are made of isolated soy proteins, there is evidence those products are not optimal in terms of health. The people around the planet that eat plant based diets have the highest longevity with the least morbidity in terms of health. The people who eat the standard american diet, have the highest rates of heart disease, cancer, diabetes, strokes, hypertension and other chronic diseases of diet. That's what the statistics bear out. It's the pharmaceutical, and health care industry which extracts your last few dollars from a group dying from the 'malnutrition if you will' caused from eating preservatives and refined products, high cholesterol and saturated fats, growth and other hormones found in dairy, and foods devoid of phytochemicals and micronutrients (only found in plants) that prevent chronic dietary diseases.

A healthy diet can be classified as vegan, but vegan does not necessarily translate to health. There is a lot of unhealthy vegan junk food, and some of these products fall in that category. Although, they are likely healthier than what most people eat, some use them as a transition to a healthier way of eating.

Oldbear83 said:

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tommie said:

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fadskier said:

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Why does anyone want to be vegan? Weirdos.

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Health reasons. No cholesterol in plants.

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And personal choice. Diet is like clothes in some ways. I heard a radio guy yesterday talk about how Nike is a popular shoe for people with narrow feet, while New Balance is more popular for people with wide feet.

Body chemistry was never one-size-fits-all, which is why people are often reminded to talk with their primary care provider before making major changes in their diet.

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Generally speaking, biochemistry of good health is common within our species with minor exceptions. Most physicians never receive more than 3 classroom hours on nutrition in med school, yet we are discovering what we eat (biochemistry) is critical to our health in terms of longevity, quality of life, and morbidity of chronic disease. In med school they are taught how to address and repair presentations of acute injury and critical life threatening health issues. They are taught how to diagnose chronic diseases, and what drugs to prescribe (many are ineffective and dangerous) to manage the symptoms of chronic disease. Post graduate education is largely through big pharma. Be sure you consult a physician who has taken it upon themself to educate themself post graduate in this area. Otherwise, you may get advice that unintentionally causes more harm than good.

Oldbear83 said:

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quash said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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If anyone has a chance to try this thing...you probably shouldn't.

Rat Feeding Study Suggests the Impossible Burger May Not Be Safe to Eat

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Anti-GMO group says GMO is bad. Dog bites man.

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Point is, maybe don't bite the fake burger.

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The point was maybe don't eat the impossible burger every day for two to three years. I don't even eat beef burgers that often.

quash said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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quash said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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If anyone has a chance to try this thing...you probably shouldn't.

Rat Feeding Study Suggests the Impossible Burger May Not Be Safe to Eat

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Anti-GMO group says GMO is bad. Dog bites man.

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Point is, maybe don't bite the fake burger.

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The point was maybe don't eat the impossible burger every day for two to three years. I don't even eat beef burgers that often.

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Frankly, I don't know anyone who eats a burger every day, anymore than I know someone who eats fried chicken all the time, etc.

I started cutting back on red meat once I hit 45, and I have noticed that it's not really the cow so much as the fat we need to worry about.

quash said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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If anyone has a chance to try this thing...you probably shouldn't.

Rat Feeding Study Suggests the Impossible Burger May Not Be Safe to Eat

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Anti-GMO group says GMO is bad. Dog bites man.

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Same news, different source:

https://www.consumerreports.org/nutrition-healthy-eating/meat-gets-a-makeover/

Sam Lowry said:

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quash said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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If anyone has a chance to try this thing...you probably shouldn't.

Rat Feeding Study Suggests the Impossible Burger May Not Be Safe to Eat

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Anti-GMO group says GMO is bad. Dog bites man.

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Same news, different source:

https://www.consumerreports.org/nutrition-healthy-eating/meat-gets-a-makeover/

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Similar concern raised by one CR staffer and a FOE rep. FOE, the Green New Deal guys.

If you want to wait until more studies are done on the new soy protein, fine. I had the Impossible Burger without any changes to my blood and simply prefer beef, especially with a 50% brisket grind.

quash said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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quash said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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If anyone has a chance to try this thing...you probably shouldn't.

Rat Feeding Study Suggests the Impossible Burger May Not Be Safe to Eat

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Anti-GMO group says GMO is bad. Dog bites man.

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Same news, different source:

https://www.consumerreports.org/nutrition-healthy-eating/meat-gets-a-makeover/

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Similar concern raised by one CR staffer and a FOE rep. FOE, the Green New Deal guys.

If you want to wait until more studies are done on the new soy protein, fine. I had the Impossible Burger without any changes to my blood and simply prefer beef, especially with a 50% brisket grind.

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It wasn't one staffer. It was a panel of scientists.

quash said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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quash said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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If anyone has a chance to try this thing...you probably shouldn't.

Rat Feeding Study Suggests the Impossible Burger May Not Be Safe to Eat

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Anti-GMO group says GMO is bad. Dog bites man.

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Point is, maybe don't bite the fake burger.

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The point was maybe don't eat the impossible burger every day for two to three years. I don't even eat beef burgers that often.

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Animal testing may be problematic, but it's not meaningless. They do extrapolate from the results to reflect real human exposures.

Sam Lowry said:

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quash said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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quash said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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If anyone has a chance to try this thing...you probably shouldn't.

Rat Feeding Study Suggests the Impossible Burger May Not Be Safe to Eat

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Anti-GMO group says GMO is bad. Dog bites man.

---

Same news, different source:

https://www.consumerreports.org/nutrition-healthy-eating/meat-gets-a-makeover/

---

Similar concern raised by one CR staffer and a FOE rep. FOE, the Green New Deal guys.

If you want to wait until more studies are done on the new soy protein, fine. I had the Impossible Burger without any changes to my blood and simply prefer beef, especially with a 50% brisket grind.

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It wasn't one staffer. It was a panel of scientists.

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"What's more, "there are still no long-term studies of soy leghemoglobin in humans," says Michael Hansen, Ph.D., a senior scientist at CR."

Sam Lowry said:

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quash said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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quash said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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If anyone has a chance to try this thing...you probably shouldn't.

Rat Feeding Study Suggests the Impossible Burger May Not Be Safe to Eat

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Anti-GMO group says GMO is bad. Dog bites man.

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Point is, maybe don't bite the fake burger.

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The point was maybe don't eat the impossible burger every day for two to three years. I don't even eat beef burgers that often.

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Animal testing may be problematic, but it's not meaningless. They do extrapolate from the results to reflect real human exposures.

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Yes. Nobody said it was meaningless. The extrapolation to humans was 2-3 years. Was there something about my post you were addressing?

quash said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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quash said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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quash said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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If anyone has a chance to try this thing...you probably shouldn't.

Rat Feeding Study Suggests the Impossible Burger May Not Be Safe to Eat

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Anti-GMO group says GMO is bad. Dog bites man.

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Point is, maybe don't bite the fake burger.

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The point was maybe don't eat the impossible burger every day for two to three years. I don't even eat beef burgers that often.

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Animal testing may be problematic, but it's not meaningless. They do extrapolate from the results to reflect real human exposures.

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Yes. Nobody said it was meaningless. The extrapolation to humans was 2-3 years. Was there something about my post you were addressing?

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Yeah, when you said the point is we shouldn't eat them every day. Daily exposure is what they use in experiments for reasons of time and cost, but the purpose of extrapolation is to approximate the effects of real-world human exposure.

I view meatless meats like I do non-alcoholic beer. Unless there is a health benefit, what's the point?

I like my farting cows medium rare.

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I view meatless meats like I do non-alcoholic beer. Unless there is a health benefit, what's the point?

I like my farting cows medium rare.

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Good job! Thanks to your post I saw a beer ad.