fadskier said:and I respectfully disagree.Canada2017 said:D. C. Bear said:Bearitto said:D. C. Bear said:Bearitto said:D. C. Bear said:Bearitto said:Canada2017 said:J.R. said:as a renter and owner of lots of multifamily doors in Texas, I can assure you, property taxes are covered in rent.Canada2017 said:quash said:LOL. Renters pay taxes through their rent. Any landlord that fails to collect what he pays in taxes will be out of business.Canada2017 said:RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:Exactly. Renters have no skin in the game and old folks have their taxes capped. Does not quite seem fair to the majority of homeowners that pay taxes under the age of 65. This is not just a Dallas problem. It occurs in the whole state of Texas.Canada2017 said:
Voters get to decide but only property owners get to pay .
In 25 years of owning investing property ...only on this message board have I ever heard the ludicrous theory that tenants pay property taxes through their rent.
Well I spend money on the products from dozens of corporations ....such spending doesn't entitle me to vote on their corporate boards .
You are the only renter I've ever heard this from .
By your rationale I should have a vote on the board of Ford Motors since I spent my money on one of their F-150's.
Ridiculous.
As the owner of 26 single family homes and one condo .....I can assure you there is no automatic raise in rents to cover raises in property taxes .
Rents are market driven .
Canada, people who say renters pay property tax are only out to justify non-tax payers outsized say vis-a-vis their contribution. They do the same thing with income taxes. They are uncomfortable with admitting that net economic drains get to determine the course of things simply by virtue of citizenship. They need to feel everyone "deserves" a say because of some equal contribution.
Just understand their motivations and move on. It's clearly a waste of time to discuss it any further.
I say renters pay property taxes because taxes have to be included in the cost or the landlords will go out of business.
Voting rights don't depend on economic contributions.
The problem is not with poor people voting, the problem is with government failing to provide equal treatment under law when it comes to taxation.
No one said voting rights do or should depend on Economic contributions. What was said was that people like you desire to convince yourself and FEEL as if they are tied so as to justify those receiving what is effectively social welfare being afforded a vote on just how much social welfare they will receive. It makes you uncomfortable to acknowledge the fact that so many are net takers and you engage in sophistry to convince yourself they aren't. I'm sure you would also be one of the first to point out how sub-zero federal tax payers somehow are "tax payers too".
As for equal treatment under the law, let's start with everyone paying an equal percentage of their annual income in taxes instead of unequally taking orders of magnitude more (as a %) from the productive among us. Let's abolish the progressive tax system for its inequality under the law.
The argument was made on this thread that those who don't have a stake in paying property taxes shouldn't get to vote on them.
Really? Which post?
This one:Canada2017 said:
If the money I spend on transportation via a Ford truck doesn't entitle me to vote on the corporate board ....
money spent by others on rent shouldn't entitle them to vote on my property taxes .
No other way to spin it .
Whoa now.
Non property owners should be able to vote on everything ....EXCEPT property taxes.
As they have no skin in the game .
Fair enough