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10:42a, 5/17/20
https://nypost.com/2020/05/16/people-flock-to-nyc-area-bars-beaches-as-quarantine-fatigue-intensifies/

People flock to NYC-area bars, beaches as 'quarantine fatigue' intensifies
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Restaurants are packed in Destin. Not just 50%!

Beaches overflowing this weekend! Having to park and walk a long way to beaches

Crab Island overflowing with boats going to beach close by for space

Parking lots full and parking nearly to streets at beach and park and restaurant row(Swamp)

Slow moving traffic

75% republican area saying BS on this crap. Seeing Trump 2020 flags on boats

Happy days are here again and our tourists are back finally this weekend
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Are restaurants in Destin now allowed to go to over 50% or did they just decide to do it becasue they do not fear any law enforcement penalty?

WFLA beach camera Anna Maria Island. Looks active for late in the day. The comments are intersting.

https://www.facebook.com/WFLANewsChannel8/videos/891897497982710/

Compare to rather empty Times Square.

https://www.facebook.com/NowThisPolitics/videos/681743525985063/
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"Your pretended fear, lest error should step in, is like the man who would keep all wine out of the country lest men should be drunk. It will be found an unjust and unwise jealousy to deprive a man of his natural liberty upon a supposition that he may abuse it."

Oliver Cromwell
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One big reason Florida has done better that New York. The Governor protected the most at risk population. Cuomo did not protect the elderly, his policies killed them. Literally.



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In reply to Jacques Strap • 5:43p, 5/17/20
Jacques Strap said:
Are restaurants in Destin now allowed to go to over 50% or did they just decide to do it becasue they do not fear any law enforcement penalty?

WFLA beach camera Anna Maria Island. Looks active for late in the day. The comments are intersting.

https://www.facebook.com/WFLANewsChannel8/videos/891897497982710/

Compare to rather empty Times Square.

https://www.facebook.com/NowThisPolitics/videos/681743525985063/
Wow, I can't tell what part of the beach that is, but I never saw it that crowded when I spent some time there, my cousin has two places on Anna Maria, one at the northwest corner and one over by the marina.
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6:24p, 5/17/20
Cuomo say New York has excess testing capacity.






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In reply to Jacques Strap • 6:29p, 5/17/20
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Cuomo say New York has excess testing capacity.






Sounds like Trump
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7:02p, 5/17/20
Arresting Pastors? That will get interesting!

https://abc7chicago.com/coronavirus-chicago-illinois-reopening-stay-at-home/6190541/


Coronavirus Chicago: Churches reopen for Sunday service in defiance of Illinois' stay-at-home order

CHICAGO (WLS) -- Calling upon their right to freely assemble and worship, several churches from the South Side to the North Side opened their doors to parishioners Sunday, in clear defiance of the Illinois' stay-at-home order.

The Philadelphia Romanian Church of God in Ravenswood is one of as many as as 100 churches that held services Sunday morning.

Gov. JB Pritzker has slammed Wilson's idea of encouraging larger church services, calling it "ridiculous."

Mayor Lightfoot said she has reached out to city churches planning to reopen and is making clear she has no problem enforcing the stay-at-home order.

"We've been in contact with those churches, both by letter but also in contact with other leaders and tried to engage them in conversation rather than being in conflict," she said.

The mayor wouldn't share the specifics of what, if any, enforcement actions would be taken, but she said she cannot look away from non-compliance.

As of now, it does not appear the city has taken any steps to shut down services. A spokesperson for the police department said earlier that they would not be going into any churches, but would be -- depending on crowd size, be issuing citations to the pastors who violated the stay at home order.
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Isolated camp sites at Browns Park Wildlife Refuge and Gates of Ladore remained closed ....

while 60-70% of the shops and bike trails in Steamboat Springs are open .

Bizarre
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9:10a, 5/18/20
https://www.kptv.com/news/salem-salon-owner-says-oregon-osha-issues-14-000-citation-says-shell-stay-open/article_9a3761e6-9708-11ea-9cc3-1b1d00602ed2.html

Salem salon owner says Oregon OSHA issues $14,000 citation; says she'll stay open

Graham also said Friday, Child Protective Services came to her home last week and interviewed her and her family members.

She believes it's a political response and says it's a false claim.
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In reply to Jacques Strap • 9:17a, 5/18/20
Jacques Strap said:
https://www.kptv.com/news/salem-salon-owner-says-oregon-osha-issues-14-000-citation-says-shell-stay-open/article_9a3761e6-9708-11ea-9cc3-1b1d00602ed2.html

Salem salon owner says Oregon OSHA issues $14,000 citation; says she'll stay open

Graham also said Friday, Child Protective Services came to her home last week and interviewed her and her family members.

She believes it's a political response and says it's a false claim.
Jack boots going to jack boot.
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In reply to Canada2017 • 10:12a, 5/18/20
Canada2017 said:
Isolated camp sites at Browns Park Wildlife Refuge and Gates of Ladore remained closed ....

while 60-70% of the shops and bike trails in Steamboat Springs are open .

Bizarre
Exactly. People in #vanlife have had their go-to camps closed to them, even though they are inherently social distance types. Forced into cities and towns they get rousted by police and Karens.

Even as Texas closed its parks it noted how essential they are in the same announcement. At least they found a path to reopening.
“Life, liberty, and property do not exist because men have made laws. On the contrary, it was the fact that life, liberty, and property existed beforehand that caused men to make laws in the first place.” (The Law, p.6) Frederic Bastiat
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Gawd dang, is Abbott about to announce he is running for POTUS?

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1:21p, 5/18/20
In New Jersey. I think police are tired of babysitting...

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In reply to Jack Bauer • 2:39p, 5/18/20
Jack Bauer said:
Gawd dang, is Abbott about to announce he is running for POTUS?

Any details on how they calculate the morality rate? What makes NY so moral?
“Life, liberty, and property do not exist because men have made laws. On the contrary, it was the fact that life, liberty, and property existed beforehand that caused men to make laws in the first place.” (The Law, p.6) Frederic Bastiat
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Updated virus progression

US:
March 19: 4,530 new cases, 57 new deaths
March 20: 5,594 new cases, 49 new deaths
March 21: 4,824 new cases, 46 new deaths
March 22: 9,339 new cases. 117 new deaths
March 23: 10,168 new cases. 140 new deaths.
March 24: 11,089 new cases. 225 new deaths.
March 25: 13,355 new cases. 247 new deaths.
March 26: 17,224 new cases. 268 new deaths.
March 27: 18,691 new cases. 401 new deaths.
March 28: 19,452 new cases. 525 new deaths
March 29: 18,882 new cases. 264 new deaths
March 30: 20,353 new cases. 573 new deaths.
March 31: 24,742 new cases. 912 new deaths.
April 1: 26,473 new cases. 1049 new deaths.
April 2: 29,874 new cases. 968 new deaths.
April 3: 32,284 new cases. 1,321 new deaths.
April 4: 34,196 new cases. 1,331 new deaths.
April 5: 25,316 new cases. 1,165 new deaths.
April 6: 30,331 new cases. 1,255 new deaths.
April 7: 33,331 new cases. 1,970 new deaths.
April 8: 31,935 new cases. 1,940 new deaths
April 9: 33,536 new cases. 1,900 new deaths.
April 10: 33,752 new cases. 2,035 new deaths.
April 11: 30,003 new cases. 1,830 new deaths
April 12: 27,421 new cases. 1,528 new deaths.
April 13: 26,641 new cases. 1,535 new deaths.
April 14: 30,288 new cases. 6,129 new deaths.
April 15: 30,700 new cases. 2,796 new deaths.
April 16: 31,805 new cases. 2,108 new deaths.
April 17: 31,575 new cases. 2,524 new deaths
April 18: 28,526 new cases. 2,076 new deaths.
April 19: 25,778 new cases. 1,638 new deaths.
April 20: 28,751 new cases. 1,781 new deaths.
April 21: 25,615 new cases. 2,847 new deaths.
April 22: 29,958 new cases. 2,221 new deaths.
April 23: 34,856 new cases. 2,425 new deaths.
April 24: 37,057 new cases. 2,170 new deaths
April 25: 31,750 new cases. 1,797 new deaths.
April 26: 27,155 new cases. 1,333 new deaths.
April 27: 23,917 new cases. 1,308 new deaths.
April 28: 25,324 new cases. 2,368 new deaths.
April 29: 29,012 new cases. 2,426 new deaths.
April 30: 31,471 new cases. 2,233 new deaths.
May 1: 35,052 new cases. 1,872 new deaths.
May 2: 29,253 new cases. 1,573 new deaths.
May 3: 25,213 new cases. 1,265 new deaths.
May 4: 24,094 new cases. 1,355 new deaths.
May 5: 25,685 new cases. 2,339 new deaths.
May 6: 25,568 new cases. 2,456 new deaths.
May 7: 29,693 new cases. 1,953 new deaths.
May 8: 29,255 new cases. 1,710 new deaths.
May 9: 25,179 new cases. 1,465 new deaths.
May 10: 20,082 new cases. 846 new deaths.
May 11: 18,576 new cases. 968 new deaths.
May 12: 22,148 new cases. 1,568 new deaths.
May 13: 21,583 new cases. 1,754 new deaths.
May 14: 26,609 new cases. 1,762 new deaths.
May 15: 25,157 new cases. 1,605 new deaths.
May 16: 24,822 new cases. 1,197 new deaths.
May 17: 18,820 new cases. 746 new deaths.

Total cases (tested): 1,519,784
Total deaths: 90,068

Texas:
March 30: 2,906 cases. 41 deaths.
March 31: 3,666 cases. 56 deaths.
April 1: 4,068 cases. 60 deaths
April 2: 4,823 cases. 77 deaths
April 3: 5,658 cases. 97 deaths
April 4: 6,311 cases. 111 deaths
April 5: 7,044 cases. 133 deaths
April 6: 8,088 cases. 151 deaths
April 7: 8,939 cases. 167 deaths
April 8: 10,065 cases. 195 deaths
April 9: 11,426 cases. 222 deaths
April 10: 12,186 cases. 248 deaths.
April 11: 13,205 cases. 267 deaths
April 12: 13,640 cases. 278 deaths
April 13: 14,277 cases. 295 deaths
April 14: 15,013 cases. 345 deaths
April 15: 16,009 cases. 375 deaths.
April 16: 17,265 cases. 429 deaths.
April 17: 18,079 cases. 459 deaths.
April 18: 18,921 cases. 484 deaths.
April 19: 19,404 cases. 500 deaths.
April 20: 20,087 cases. 520 deaths.
April 21: 20,975 cases. 545 deaths
April 22: 21,774 cases. 567 deaths.
April 23: 22,650 cases. 604 deaths
April 24: 23,642 cases. 624 deaths.
April 25: 24,157 cases. 638 deaths.
April 26: 24,968 cases. 651 deaths.
April 27: 25,321 cases. 667 deaths.
April 28: 26,357 cases. 719 deaths.
April 29: 27,390 cases. 759 deaths.
April 30: 28,707 cases. 809 deaths.
May 1: 29,937 cases. 841 deaths.
May 2: 31,163 cases. 865 deaths.
May 3: 31,997 cases. 878 deaths.
May 4: 32,731 cases. 898 deaths.
May 5: 33,755 cases. 924 deaths.
May 6: 34,881 cases. 959 deaths.
May 7: 36,045 cases. 985 deaths.
May 8: 37,417 cases. 1,030 deaths.
May 9: 38,394 cases. 1,066 deaths.
May 10: 39,249 cases. 1,094 deaths.
May 11: 40,589 cases. 1,118 deaths.
May 12: 41,432 cases. 1,146 deaths.
May 13: 42,295 cases. 1,171 deaths.
May 14: 44,480 cases. 1,235 deaths.
May 15: 45,858 cases. 1,284 deaths.
May 16: 47,452 cases. 1,318 deaths.
May 17: 48,396 cases. 1,343 deaths.

New York:
March 30: 67,325 cases. 1,342 deaths.
March 31: 75,983 cases. 1,714 deaths.
April 1: 83,901 cases. 2,219 deaths. (505 today!)
April 2: 93,053 cases. 2,583 deaths.
April 3: 103,476 cases. 3,218 deaths. (680 today!)
April 4: 114,775 cases. 3,565 deaths.
April 5: 123,018 cases. 4,159 deaths. (594 today)
April 6: 131,916 cases. 4,758 deaths. (599 today)
April 7: 142,384 cases. 5,489 deaths. (731 today)
April 8: 151,171 cases. 6,268 deaths. (779 today)
April 9: 161,504 cases. 7,067 deaths. (799 today)
April 10: 172,358 cases. 7,844 deaths. (777 today)
April 11: 181,144 cases. 8,627 deaths (783 today)
April 12: 189,415 cases. 9,385 deaths (758 today)
April 13: 195,655 cases. 10,056 deaths (671 today)
April 14: 207,168 cases. 14,612 deaths (4,556 today)
April 15: 218,911 cases. 15,648 deaths (1,036 today)
April 16: 227,625 cases. 16,130 deaths (482 today)
April 17: 235,395 cases. 17,131 deaths (1,001 today)
April 18: 242,580 cases. 17,627 deaths (541 today)
April 19: 248,431 cases. 18,298 deaths (671 today)
April 20: 253,324 cases. 18,822 deaths (524 today)
April 21: 258,589 cases. 19,753 deaths (931 today)
April 22: 263,754 cases. 20,255 deaths (501 today)
April 23: 271,162 cases. 20,982 deaths (727 today)
April 24: 279,314 cases. 21,430 deaths (448 today)
April 25: 287,490 cases. 21,802 deaths (372 today)
April 26: 293,696 cases. 22,365 deaths (563 today)
April 27: 298,442 cases. 22,668 deaths (303 today)
April 28: 301,489 cases. 23,134 deaths (466 today)
April 29: 306,478 cases. 23,477 deaths (343 today)
April 30: 311,379 cases. 23,796 deaths (316 today)
May 1: 315,515 cases. 24,039 deaths (243 today)
May 2: 320,219 cases. 24,301 deaths (264 today)
May 3: 323,197 cases. 24,706 deaths (405 today)
May 4: 327,489 cases. 24,999 deaths. (293 today)
May 5: 330,066 cases. 25,255 deaths (256 today)
May 6: 333,576 cases. 25,923 deaths (668 today)
May 7: 334,106 cases. 26,144 deaths (221 today)
May 8: 336,754 cases. 26,379 deaths (235 today)
May 9: 339,307 cases. 26,563 deaths (184 today)
May 10: 341,295 cases. 26,697 deaths (134 today)
May 11: 342,813 cases. 26,832 deaths (135 today)
May 12: 344,455 cases. 26,983 deaths (151 today)
May 13: 346,517 cases. 26,971 deaths (155 today)
May 14: 348,790 cases. 27,103 deaths (132 today)
May 15: 351,527 cases. 27,259 deaths (156 today)
May 16: 353,824 cases. 27,406 deaths (147 today)
May 17: 355,347 cases. 27,515 deaths (109 today)

Georgia:
April 3: 5955 cases. 196 deaths.
April 4: 6373 cases. 206 deaths.
April 5: 6729 cases. 217 deaths.
April 6: 7549 cases. 285 deaths.
April 7: 9131 cases. 335 deaths.
April 8: 10,203 cases. 361 deaths.
April 9: 10,882 cases. 407 deaths.
April 10: 11,852 cases. 421 deaths.
April 11: 12,261 cases. 432 deaths.
April 12: 12,550 cases. 440 deaths.
April 13: 13,621 cases. 477 deaths.
April 14: 14,578 cases. 523 deaths.
April 15: 15,267 cases. 575 deaths.
April 16: 16,354 cases. 613 deaths.
April 17: 17,434 cases. 668 deaths.
April 18: 17,841 cases. 677 deaths.
April 19: 18,297 cases. 687 deaths.
April 20: 19,388 cases. 769 deaths.
April 21: 20,156 cases. 816 deaths.
April 22: 21,090 cases. 845 deaths.
April 23: 21,883 cases. 881 deaths.
April 24: 22,491 cases. 899 deaths.
April 25: 23,222 cases. 907 deaths.
April 26: 23,475 cases. 916 deaths.
April 27: 24,209 cases. 991 deaths.
April 28: 24,942 cases. 1,037 deaths.
April 29: 25,955 cases. 1,103 deaths.
April 30: 26,375 cases. 1,136 deaths.
May 1: 27,731 cases. 1,169 deaths.
May 2: 28,442 cases. 1,175 deaths.
May 3: 28,662 cases. 1,181 deaths.
May 4: 29,360 cases. 1,244 deaths.
May 5: 29,956 cases. 1,293 deaths.
May 6: 30,727 cases. 1,325 deaths.
May 7: 31,603 cases. 1,351 deaths.
May 8: 32,179 cases. 1,401 deaths.
May 9: 32,586 cases. 1,404 deaths.
May 10: 33,819 cases. 1,405 deaths.
May 11: 34,000 cases. 1,443 deaths.
May 12: 34,924 cases. 1,498 deaths.
May 13: 35,373 cases. 1,509 deaths.
May 14: 35,926 cases. 1,541 deaths.
May 15: 36,763 cases. 1,587 deaths.
May 16: 37,190 cases. 1,598 deaths.
May 17: 37,579 cases. 1,610 deaths.

11,502,652 tests performed since recording
1,479,856 positive tests since recording
12.9% positive all testing
87.1% negative all testing.

Trends have been drastically lower at 6% positive/94% negative. In fact yesterday 5/17 marked the highest number of tests nationally in one day in the US at 422,024 with only 21,069 positive results. That's a 5% positive ratio. The virus is dying out.


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In reply to quash • 2:48p, 5/18/20
quash said:
Jack Bauer said:
Gawd dang, is Abbott about to announce he is running for POTUS?

Any details on how they calculate the morality rate? What makes NY so moral?
Looks like the math is deaths / population
Texas 1,133 / 29,500,000 = .000038 or 0.0038%
I Don't think this it is a particularly meaningful metric but that appears to be the calculation
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In reply to Jacques Strap • 2:51p, 5/18/20
Jacques Strap said:
quash said:
Jack Bauer said:
Gawd dang, is Abbott about to announce he is running for POTUS?

Any details on how they calculate the morality rate? What makes NY so immoral?
Looks like the math is deaths / population
Texas 1,133 / 29,500,000 = .000038 or 0.0038%
I Don't think this it is a particularly meaningful metric but that appears to be the calculation
FIFY

McLennan County's mortality rate is 0.00156%
Bell County has 3x as many cases as McLennan County, but a mortality rate of 0.00084%.
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Now this one is worth reading.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2020/05/15/the_costly_failure_to_update_sky-is-falling_predictions_143215.html

The Costly Failure to Update Sky-Is-Falling Predictions

On March 6, Liz Specht, Ph.D., posted a thread on Twitter that immediately went viral. As of this writing, it has received over 100,000 likes and almost 41,000 retweets, and was republished at Stat News. It purported to "talk math" and reflected the views of "highly esteemed epidemiologists." It insisted it was "not a hypothetical, fear-mongering, worst-case scenario," and that, while the predictions it contained might be wrong, they would not be "orders of magnitude wrong." It was also catastrophically incorrect.

The crux of Dr. Specht's 35-tweet thread was that the rapid doubling of COVID-19 cases would lead to about 1 million cases by May 5, 4 million by May 11, and so forth. Under this scenario, with a 10% hospitalization rate, we would expect approximately 400,000 hospitalizations by mid-May, which would more than overwhelm the estimated 330,000 available hospital beds in the country. This would combine with a lack of protective equipment for health care workers and lead to them "dropping from the workforce for weeks at a time," to shortages of saline drips and so forth. Half the world would be infected by the summer, and we were implicitly advised to buy dry goods and to prepare not to leave the house.

Interestingly, this thread was wrong not because we managed to bend the curve and stave off the apocalypse; for starters, Dr. Specht described the cancellation of large events and workplace closures as something that would shift things by only days or weeks.

Instead, this thread was wrong because it dramatically overstated our knowledge of the way the virus worked; it fell prey to the problem, common among experts, of failing to address adequately the uncertainty surrounding its point estimates. It did so in two opposing ways. First, it dramatically understated the rate of spread. If serological tests are to be remotely believed, we likely hit the apocalyptic milestone of 2 million cases quite some time ago. Not in the United States, mind you, but in New York City, where 20% of residents showed positive COVID-19 antibodies on April 23. Fourteen percent of state residents showed antibodies, suggesting 2.5 million cases in the Empire State alone; since antibodies take a while to develop, this was likely the state of affairs in mid-April or earlier.
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In reply to Jacques Strap • 6:04p, 5/18/20
Jacques Strap said:
quash said:
Jack Bauer said:
Gawd dang, is Abbott about to announce he is running for POTUS?

Any details on how they calculate the morality rate? What makes NY so moral?
Looks like the math is deaths / population
Texas 1,133 / 29,500,000 = .000038 or 0.0038%
I Don't think this it is a particularly meaningful metric but that appears to be the calculation
What does that have to do with morality?
“Life, liberty, and property do not exist because men have made laws. On the contrary, it was the fact that life, liberty, and property existed beforehand that caused men to make laws in the first place.” (The Law, p.6) Frederic Bastiat
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In reply to Jacques Strap • 6:11p, 5/18/20
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Now this one is worth reading.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2020/05/15/the_costly_failure_to_update_sky-is-falling_predictions_143215.html

The Costly Failure to Update Sky-Is-Falling Predictions

On March 6, Liz Specht, Ph.D., posted a thread on Twitter that immediately went viral. As of this writing, it has received over 100,000 likes and almost 41,000 retweets, and was republished at Stat News. It purported to "talk math" and reflected the views of "highly esteemed epidemiologists." It insisted it was "not a hypothetical, fear-mongering, worst-case scenario," and that, while the predictions it contained might be wrong, they would not be "orders of magnitude wrong." It was also catastrophically incorrect.

The crux of Dr. Specht's 35-tweet thread was that the rapid doubling of COVID-19 cases would lead to about 1 million cases by May 5, 4 million by May 11, and so forth. Under this scenario, with a 10% hospitalization rate, we would expect approximately 400,000 hospitalizations by mid-May, which would more than overwhelm the estimated 330,000 available hospital beds in the country. This would combine with a lack of protective equipment for health care workers and lead to them "dropping from the workforce for weeks at a time," to shortages of saline drips and so forth. Half the world would be infected by the summer, and we were implicitly advised to buy dry goods and to prepare not to leave the house.

Interestingly, this thread was wrong not because we managed to bend the curve and stave off the apocalypse; for starters, Dr. Specht described the cancellation of large events and workplace closures as something that would shift things by only days or weeks.

Instead, this thread was wrong because it dramatically overstated our knowledge of the way the virus worked; it fell prey to the problem, common among experts, of failing to address adequately the uncertainty surrounding its point estimates. It did so in two opposing ways. First, it dramatically understated the rate of spread. If serological tests are to be remotely believed, we likely hit the apocalyptic milestone of 2 million cases quite some time ago. Not in the United States, mind you, but in New York City, where 20% of residents showed positive COVID-19 antibodies on April 23. Fourteen percent of state residents showed antibodies, suggesting 2.5 million cases in the Empire State alone; since antibodies take a while to develop, this was likely the state of affairs in mid-April or earlier.
I was hanging on every word. What happened to second?

I agree with you that we have been making huge policy choices on a virus we don't really understand.
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https://www.mywabashvalley.com/news/national-news/judge-tosses-coronavirus-restrictions-by-oregon-governor/

Judge rules that Oregon virus restrictions are invalid


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SALEM, Ore. (AP) A judge in rural Oregon on Monday tossed out statewide coronavirus restrictions imposed by Democratic Gov. Kate Brown, saying she didn't seek the Legislature's approval to extend the stay-at-home orders beyond a 28-day limit.

Baker County Circuit Judge Matthew Shirtcliff issued his opinion in response to a lawsuit filed earlier this month by 10 churches around Oregon that argued the state's social-distancing directives were unconstitutional.

Brown filed paperwork within hours seeking an emergency review by the Oregon Supreme Court and a hold on the ruling until the high court could take it up. Her attorneys had asked the judge to stay his ruling until that time, but he declined.
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https://www.espn.com/espn/story/_/id/29190501/gov-andrew-cuomo-encourages-ny-teams-reopen

New York, California, Texas move toward pro sports' return

Governors from New York, California and Texas said Monday that professional sports could resume in their respective states in the near future.

Texas Gov. Greg Abbott said professional sports without fans could resume there at the end of May. In addition, he said Little League baseball can resume play with parents watching under social distancing guidelines.
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In reply to Jacques Strap • 8:07p, 5/18/20
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https://www.espn.com/espn/story/_/id/29190501/gov-andrew-cuomo-encourages-ny-teams-reopen

New York, California, Texas move toward pro sports' return

Governors from New York, California and Texas said Monday that professional sports could resume in their respective states in the near future.

Texas Gov. Greg Abbott said professional sports without fans could resume there at the end of May. In addition, he said Little League baseball can resume play with parents watching under social distancing guidelines.
just don't warm up at the park...
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In reply to quash • 8:34p, 5/18/20
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Gawd dang, is Abbott about to announce he is running for POTUS?

Any details on how they calculate the morality rate? What makes NY so moral?

I don't know, but the rates for NY and CA are clearly way too high.
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In reply to ATL Bear • 9:04p, 5/18/20
Scams losing steam today

Scammers are running out of gas

What a crock
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https://reason.com/2020/05/04/lockdown-is-ending-whether-governments-approve-or-not/?itm_source=parsely-api

Lockdown Is Ending, Whether Governments Approve or Not - They're voting with their feet and their cars.

Executive orders may have encouraged the lockdowns, but they always depended on voluntary behavior.





The data also show something about the nature of the shutdowns. They might have been encouraged by executive orders, but they were always ultimately driven by voluntary behavior. Well before states started issuing stay-at-home orders in the final week of March, many Americans were voluntarily self-quarantining.

Since officials had only limited influence over the beginning of the lockdown, they were always going to have limited influence over its ending. This was always unsustainable over the long term, and coronavirus policies need to be reconsidered in light of that. On the other hand, declaring states to be "open" will be meaningless unless residents feel it is safe to venture out again.

Nor is this proof that anti-lockdown protests have worked. Dozens of Americans have descended on state capitals in displays of politicized rage, but the lockdowns are coming undone mostly because millions of other people have simply started going about their lives again, at least as much as they can. They're voting with their feetand their cars.
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Long way to go but it's a start.

(Bloomberg) -- Southwest Airlines Co. joined other U.S.
carriers noting nascent signs of revival, saying that May
bookings are outpacing cancellations for the first time since
March and that travel reservations for next month are showing
"modest improvement."

Operating revenue this month will likely decline no more
than 90%, rather than the drop of as much as 95% previously
forecast, Southwest said Tuesday in a regulatory filing. The
average amount of seats filled per plane should be between 25%
and 30% -- well above the roughly 8% recorded for April. The
Dallas-based carrier earlier projected the figure would be no
more than 10% in May. The forecast for capacity remains down as
much as 70% from a year earlier.

Other U.S. carriers also have detected improvement in a
global industry pummeled by collapsing demand amid the
coronavirus pandemic. United Airlines Holdings Inc. said Tuesday
it also has seen fewer customer cancellations this month and a
moderate improvement in demand. Delta Air Lines Inc. is
restarting 100 suspended domestic and international routes next
month. Carriers still caution that the revenue environment
remains uncertain.

Southwest on Tuesday also issued its first outlook for
June, forecasting that operating revenue would drop as much as
85% and that capacity would decline as much as 55%. Its load
factor, the number of seats filled, was projected to be 35% to
45%.


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Long way to go but it's a start.

(Bloomberg) -- Southwest Airlines Co. joined other U.S.
carriers noting nascent signs of revival, saying that May
bookings are outpacing cancellations for the first time since
March and that travel reservations for next month are showing
"modest improvement."

Operating revenue this month will likely decline no more
than 90%, rather than the drop of as much as 95% previously
forecast, Southwest said Tuesday in a regulatory filing. The
average amount of seats filled per plane should be between 25%
and 30% -- well above the roughly 8% recorded for April. The
Dallas-based carrier earlier projected the figure would be no
more than 10% in May. The forecast for capacity remains down as
much as 70% from a year earlier.

Other U.S. carriers also have detected improvement in a
global industry pummeled by collapsing demand amid the
coronavirus pandemic. United Airlines Holdings Inc. said Tuesday
it also has seen fewer customer cancellations this month and a
moderate improvement in demand. Delta Air Lines Inc. is
restarting 100 suspended domestic and international routes next
month. Carriers still caution that the revenue environment
remains uncertain.

Southwest on Tuesday also issued its first outlook for
June, forecasting that operating revenue would drop as much as
85% and that capacity would decline as much as 55%. Its load
factor, the number of seats filled, was projected to be 35% to
45%.


A HS friend who flies for work sent out a pic of him on a small regional flight (2 seats each side per row) a few weeks ago: no other passengers showed in the pic, I think he said there were two others. He sent one this week and the plane was almost full.
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